Obama, Ayers, and the Politics of Intimidation

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Obama, Ayers, and the Politics of Intimidation

"Frank Pastore, from KKLA in Los Angeles, recently interviewed Stanley Kurtz, Senior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center, about his research into Barack Obama. Kurtz wrote an article for the New York Post, “O’s Dangerous Pals,” detailing the relationship between Obama and Madeline Talbot, head of ACORN— the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now."

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Submitted by JeffC on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 3:08pm.

Palin's husband, Todd Palin, was a member of the party from 1995-2002 and members say she was at conventions in 1994, and 2000, as well as addressing its conventions in 2006 (when she told them, “Keep up the good work, and God bless you.”) and 2008.

Party founder Vogler preached armed insurrection against the United States of America. Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, “When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion. They think they own [Alaska]. There comes a time when people will choose to die with honor rather than live with dishonor. That time may be coming here. Our goal is ultimate independence by peaceful means under a minimal government fully responsive to the people. I hope we don’t have to take human life, but if they go on tramping on our property rights, look out, we’re ready to die.”

He also said, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."

Vogler said in the interview in 1991,"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

Your party's VP is married to and supports people verging on treason. Why doesn't that bother you? This is not some fly by night association on a charity group. This is her husband. This is as organization at which she goes to address as Governor.

Why doesn't that matter?


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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 2:22pm.

Fred, they'll call you a racist.

An African-American candidate's affiliations don't matter, you know that! Bad boy, Fred!

Racist activist pastors, terrorist, government corruption shouldn't have any weight in this election.

Even the fact Obama Hussein Barack has no answers and no experience with the problems facing this country shouldn't hinder us from voting for him.

Fred are you a bitter man clutching a gun? Obama Hussein Barack doesn't like guys like you.

Vote Republican


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Submitted by diva on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 3:35pm.

This is beneath you, mate. John McCain is even giving up these lines of attack. Know why? Because it didn't work for him; didn't work for Hillary; doesn't work at all when the weight of the world is literally on the people pulling the levers in the voting booths.

Have you noticed that most even-tempered folks on here refer to the candidates by their names(Now, mind you. Sniffles and Mainstream are NOT even tempered. They're really ticked!)? I don't call McCain anything other than John or McCain or Senator McCain when I feel like typing a bit more. I called USArmy brat "brat" for short (like I use Main or Snif) and she was horribly offended. So I guess what I don't get is how conservatives who are so easily offended act in ways you yourselves find offensive when the shoe is on the other hand. The wild things shouted out at the ground-losing republican campaign rallies are not too christiany these days. It's sad to see a party lose its soul in an effort to win an election. John McCain appears to have regained his grip on the reins of his stage coach and he's scolding those that shout out "terrorist" and "Arab," but he is about 10 campaign stops too late. The scab has really been ripped off of you guys and it isn't pretty.

And to think, you don't even have a counter argument to Governor Palin and her husband's support of a separatist, insurgent group of Alaskans. How will you win the argument of "dangerous associations" without even offering a defense? And how will you win a battle for ideas by stooping to the "Obama Hussein Barack" thing that has a Florida Sherrif in very hot water and a GOP campaign chairman looking for a new job?


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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 4:54pm.

If one's soul is lost for uttering the name Hussein, what horror is due to those who named him?

I remember Bill Clinton being called "William Jefferson Clinton" often -- among other, far more unsavory, things.

At the very least, it is interestingly coincidental that the guy shares a name with somebody like the former dictator of Iraq. I happen to think it's nothing more than a coincidence, but it is interesting nonetheless.

One or two of the uber-rich used to use the name Roosevelt as a pejorative. Of course, he was a rich white dude himself.

In the course of American history, this presidential election season isn't all that ugly. The problem is more that both parties sent up two total douches.

I myself am voting for the brother, but my reasons are rather strange -- even to me.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 4:43pm.

"Now, mind you. Sniffles and Mainstream are NOT even tempered. They're really ticked!"

....is it that obvious? Eye-wink

(btw - at this next blogger coffee, I suggest y'all just use your blog names and not your real names, or, just first names only - there are just too many nutters among us to feel completely safe anymore...)


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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 10/09/2008 - 11:28am.

**crickets**

(pssssst, Fred.... there's a global economic crisis happening, we're fighting two foreign wars, unemployment is rising, people are losing their life savings, folks are losing their homes and some are being forced to abandon their children, live in their cars, or even kill themselves.... nobody cares about what you, Richard, BPR and the McCain/Palin hate team are trying to peddle anymore...)

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"You can lead a Republican to the truth, but you can't make him think."


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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Thu, 10/09/2008 - 11:35am.

America does have lots of problems, and we need honest people with good judgement, character, and morals to lead us through.

Obama, Pelosi, and Reid have none of those characteritics.


Submitted by faux_paws on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 3:14am.

the fact that you can apply the concept of good morals to the mccain/palin ticket just shows that you only watch fox news.

this whole probe that's happening to palin because of her questionable ethics doesn't matter to you because they're probably just a bunch of liberals...god forbid that a republican actually do something shady...

shady like mccain cheating on his crippled wife and marrying his mistress 5 weeks after his divorce...forget the fact that he has stolen a story from one of his self proclaimed favorite books (he mentions "gulag archipelago" in his memoirs) about a guard drawing a cross in the sand in order to appeal to evangelicals (he did not tell this story before his first run for the presidency...i guess it took him decades to find the courage)...i also love that he said "horse sh*t" on live tv, twice...so yes, both mccain and palin seem to be outstanding examples of moral and ethically superior people...and if it weren't 4am, i would love to talk about more of their moral achievements.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 2:30pm.

I'd rather have someone say horse hockey than America is mean and they never had pride in their country until very recently. Surely not the kind of attitude I would like from the First Family in charge.

While McCain was cheating on his wife, Obama was snorting cocaine behind his wife's back. That knife cuts both ways.

Vote Republican


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Submitted by diva on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 3:41pm.

between Presidents and first ladies? Oh, and tell us more of Barack's cocaine use while married. Has John McCain ever used it? How about GWB? You obviously have insider information. Please spill the beans.


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Submitted by Fred Garvin on Fri, 10/10/2008 - 3:42pm.

NY election mix-up: 'Osama' on the ballot

Easy to understand how this happened, since it's so hard to tell the two apart....


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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 5:16pm.

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