Thomas found guilty in Heather Rhodes' murder

Fri, 10/03/2008 - 2:45pm
By: Ben Nelms

Update: Roderick Calvin Thomas was sentenced Friday morning to life without parole by Coweta County Superior Court Judge A. Quillian Baldwin in the murder of 17 year-old Heather Rhodes on March 30, 2004. Thomas was found guilty Thursday on two dozen counts related to Rhodes’ murder, the shooting of two men at a Newnan apartment and the attack on several others present.

“He killed that girl. We went in there to rob them and things went wrong.”

Those were the words of 32 year-old Newnan resident Marquis Cannon Wednesday in Coweta County Superior Court, coming at the end of two days of testimony from multiple witnesses in the murder trial of Roderick Calvin “Rick” Thomas, charged in the shooting death of then 17 year-old Heather Rhodes. Thomas faces 24 charges in the incident and the possibility of life without parole if found guilty. At press time Thursday, the prosecution and defense were wrapping up their closing statements. The jury was expected to begin deliberations later in the day.

In her opening statements Tuesday, Assistant District Attorney Linda Caldwell said Thomas, aged 24 at the time of the incident, and Cannon forced their way into the apartment looking for drugs and money while a third man, Rayshun Holston, waited outside in a getaway car.

 ”Terror, sheer terror,” Caldwell said. “That best describes March 30, 2004. That night changed lives forever.”

Caldwell said Thomas shoved a shotgun down the throat of apartment resident Eric Weiner, shot the other resident, Mandel Mahama, as he attempted to escape, shot Heather Rhodes at point blank range in the living room, then shot Steven Devereaux as he hid behind a chair in the living room. Heather’s body was later found to have 212 shotgun pellets in her arm, chest, lung, aorta and esophagus after the shotgun blast tore through her forearm and biceps and entered her abdomen, Caldwell said.

“Heather Rhodes was still standing with her hands up saying, ‘don’t shoot,’ but he shot the 17 year-old high school senior who had been doing her homework. She died with the pen still in her hand,” Caldwell said.

Caldwell described how the assailants had forced their way into the apartment after Mahama had partially opened the front door. Chaos ensued, Caldwell said, with one of the assailants screaming, “Someone’s going to die tonight.”

Caldwell said the motive for the robbery was drug-related. Mahama and Weiner did sell pot, she said, and people in the apartment were smoking pot. There was $1,200 in the apartment that Mahama had hidden under a rug in the living room, Caldwell said. If only he had given that money, but we do not have that luxury, said Caldwell.

Mahama and Weiner later testified Tuesday that they each sold approximately one ounce of hydroponic marijuana per week. The presence of marijuana and potential money from the sales was the ostensible reason for the robbery. Many of the visitors to the apartment the night of the shooting testified that they had smoked pot while at the residence.

In his opening statements, defense attorney Jim Berry said the case boiled down to one word.

“Trust, that’s what this case is all about. The question is who (is to be trusted)” Berry said to the jury. “The evidence against Roderick Thomas is coming from the other two, Marquis Cannon and Rayshun Holston. Their stories are full of attempts to lessen the blame on themselves. They were charged with the same charges (as Thomas) but reached a deal. All they’ve got to do is tell you to trust them. There’s no physical evidence, no corroborating evidence, no gun was ever found, not one victim can tell you (Thomas) is the guy they saw, no ballistic evidence from the four shotgun casings found. This happened four years ago in five minutes of terror. All the victims agreed that two people went in and no one saw a getaway car. We believe you can’t believe what (Cannon and Holston) say. It’s self-serving.”

Though the assailants were inside the apartment for less than five minutes, according to accounts, that brief amount of time ended in a bloodbath, with Starr’s Mill High School student Heather Rhodes gasping for her last breaths on the living room floor after being hit at point-blank range with a Mossberg 12-gage pistol-grip shotgun. One of Heather’s friends held her as she died, unable to make out what she was saying. Also injured was Steven Devereaux, shot in the hip, and Rhodes’ boyfriend Mandel Mahama, who rented the apartment with 19 year-old Eric Weiner, shot in the side as he ran toward the front door and subsequently fled to a nearby apartment complex.

 None of the eight people in the apartment at 10:30 p.m. on March 30, 2004 that survived the attack could identify Thomas, as the two intruders were wearing hoodies and masks covering the bottom half of their faces. That difficulty left the prosecution with the testimony of Holston and Cannon. Holston, who previously pled guilty to lesser charges and is awaiting sentencing to serve five years, testified against Thomas, his cousin, Wednesday morning. But it was the testimony of Marquis Cannon that afternoon that identified Thomas as the shooter. Cannon stood in the jury box, squinting through his glasses as he was asked to identify the man alleged to have killed one and injured two others on that late-March night.

Defense attorney Jim Berry questioned whether Cannon was able to accurately identify Thomas as the shooter. Cannon responded immediately and definitively when Caldwell presented him with a photo of Thomas.

Moments earlier, Cannon said he and Holston had decided earlier in the day to go to the apartment to rob the occupants. Thomas joined them later that day and the three set off to do the “lick.” Cannon said that, once at the apartment door, he feared for his own safety if he had not gone through with the robbery. Cannon said he was unarmed. His testimony was not disputed by the occupants that testified.

Rhodes, who according to the occupants had moved into the apartment during the past two or three months, was one of nine people in the Newnan Lakeside Apartments residence at the time of the incident. The six visitors inside the apartment were friends of one or more of the occupants.

A scuffle began between Cannon and Mahama in the living room shortly after the two robbers entered the apartment, according to testimony given by Mahama and later disputed by Cannon. Mahama said it was during time time they rolled on the floor that he slipped $1,200 dollars in cash under the rug. Down the hall, the man with the shotgun corralled the remaining half dozen men in a bedroom, ordering them to take off their clothes and lay on the floor, according to several of the apartment visitors that testified. Demanding to know, “Were is it?” the man with the shotgun then ordered the six to go into the bathroom and get in the bathtub naked while he held Weiner against the sink, shotgun rammed down his throat, pressing the back of his head against the bathroom mirror.

At one point Mahama left the living room, also having taken off his clothes. While in the vicinity of the bathroom area, Mahama began to run toward the living room and was shot in the back. He ran to the front door, unlocked it and ran out. He was followed by Cannon, who maintained that he was running away from the scene and was not attempting to chase down Mahama. Cannon was found later that evening at a nearby restaurant and subsequently arrested.

Responding to questions by defense attorney Berry about his plea and the 14-year prison term without parole he will receive once sentenced, Cannon said, “I don’t feel like I did nothing so it’s not a good deal. But I was there and participated and somebody got killed.”

Aside from witnesses in the apartment not being able to identify either of the robbers, neither the getaway car nor the shotgun have been located. Thomas was arrested five weeks later hiding in a closet in Union City, according to testimony.

Thomas was convicted of malice murder, felony murder, nine counts of aggravated assault, five counts of kidnapping, two counts of armed robbery and burglary, one count of making terroristic threats and three counts of possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime. Thomas recieved three merged life sentences without parole, two additional life sentences, 75 years consecutive for several of the charges and 245 years concurrent for the remaining charges.

The district attorney’s office decided against seeking the death penalty, opting for a sentence of life in prison without parole if convicted. In a Sept. 29 press release, District Attorney Peter Skandalakis said he met with the defense counsel and Roderick Thomas, with all agreeing that the death penalty request would be withdrawn as a sentencing option in exchange for the judge having the authority to sentence Thomas to life without parole.

“We decided against seeking the death penalty because of the strength of the case. We felt that our case relied mostly upon the co-defendents testmony a that a death penalty-qualified jury would not have imposed that penalty,” Skandalakis said after the trial. “After we sat down and got both co-defendents to cooperate and after we looked at all our evidence and considered the co-defendent testimony we felt it would be appropriate to seek life without parole.”

With Judge Baldwin’s reading of the verdict Thursday afternoon, Heather’s mother and father, Shelby and Mike Thompson, were brought to tears. Sitting on the front row in the courtroom, they hugged each other, tears silently flowing. Shelby Thompson on other occasions during what was a very difficult trial wept silently, head down, in her seat. Several of the victims present to hear the verdict also hugged each other in silence.

Across the courtroom, Roderick Thomas’ mother wept openly, comforted by other family members. Her tears and muffled wailing continued after the jury had been dismissed and courtroom cleared.

Prior to being sentenced Friday morning to life without parole, Mike and Shelby Thompson and several others offered victim impact statements in which they asked Judge Baldwin to impose the maximum sentence possible.

Shelby spoke of Heather as a baby, as young child, and as the young woman that spent so much time with her family in Fayette County up until the day of her murder. All her belongings were still at her home.

“I will always remember Heather as my beautiful baby who stuck with me no matter what. She was a true friend, someone who loved me unconditionally,” Shelby said between the sobs that filled her statements. “There’s not a minute in the day that goes by that I don’t miss seeing her beautiful face. It is an emptiness I cannot even describe. I feel as if someone has stolen my life or killed part of me, too. There are so many things this person that killed my daughter has stolen from me, but most of all he has stolen the greatest love I had ever felt in my life and turned it into the deepest misery and agony that any person has ever known.”

Mike Thompson’s words followed those of his wife. He noted how the defense during the trial used the theme, “trust me,” and how the prosecution used,”believe me.”

"For my family, the question is “why.” Why would you shoot a girl that was no threat to you? She was a strong young woman, independent, an important person and would have been an important person in society,” Mike said, unable to hold back the tears. “Now that this trial is over I ask that everybody... don’t forget Heather. Keep her in your heart... don’t leave her behind.”

Heather Rhodes was a senior at Starr’s Mill High School. She was remembered by school officials at the time of her death as having a sweet demeanor and being “very energetic and very polite.” She was a member of the Vocational Opportunity Clubs of America and Future Business Leaders of America.

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Submitted by babyovfive on Tue, 10/14/2008 - 12:40pm.

Thank God it is over with and he was truly found for what he did and is paying the price. it is true what comes around goes around. its ashamed he is wasting away his life in prison but he knew once u do the crime u must pay the price. for the people who are talking about racism well their is none. heather was a good person, did well in school, good daughter, friend, girlfriend, and all around person. it is nothing to do with being 17 and moving out. the main rule to live with mandel was to stay in school and she did. unfortunately everything happens for a reason. he has previously done bad things already and now he is paying for all of it. it was her time to go because if it wasnt God wouldnt have let her go. the people who are putting the blame on mandel or eric how dare u try to judge. yeah they were doin bad things but they didnt take her life and anyone can be in danger anywhere without being around people who arent doing the right thing. there are bad people out there and he showed no remorse to his crime or any emotion what he put his family through. he had the chance to apologize to show some courage and man up but he didnt even say a word. REMEMBER this is not about racism, drugs, or anything else its about a life taken away from a young girl and the court on both sides did well but as the defense attorneys said there was enough evidence to convict him and he was so just stop with all the nonsense about racism and what not because his attorney were both white.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 7:57pm.

He got a purdy mouth. He'll be real popular on his cellblock.


Submitted by SamGoodie on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 3:41pm.

only white boys get raped in Georgia prisons

Submitted by Graduate on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 3:06pm.

It's about justice. I believe with whom ever it is above that said this wasn't a fair trial. She/he were correct because Thomas deserves to be dead. "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." It might not make things right, but it sure as hell would bring some sort of unexplainable peace to all of us. I also agree with whomever it was that said they blame Mandel. I do as well. He says he can't take this "***" in his life. He caused it. He put a dear friend of all of ours in harms way. Yes she knew his dealings with drugs, but I don't think she ever had a real clue to what he, or people he knew, were capable of. I know I said this isn't about loyalties, and it isn't. I don't believe Thomas should die strictly because he took a friend of mine away. I believe he should die because he chose to take someone's life away, regardless if he knew who she was or not. I can understand the few of you who are in support of Thomas, and not wanting him to go to prison, but you are failing to see what he has done. Maybe there was no gun found, but you (the girlfriend) would have never tried to hide him in a closet if you, yourself didn't feel he was guilty. He had no regards for Heather's life, or any of the other people involved, and he probably has no regards for you. I don't mean to be spiteful, but all Heather wanted to do was prove to herself that she could be something. She wanted to make Shelby and Mike proud, and even her 2 brothers. She seeked the good in all people, and she would strive for her personal best. I hope she knows that she made something of herself. I believe Heaven won the battle because they gained the most beautiful Angel of all. I wish it hadn't have been her, but that is the way it happened. I truly hope Thomas meets his real fate, and all the others involved with this. I hope Mandel can overcome his cowardly ways, and take ownership of what he's done, but he probably won't. And most of all I pray for peace, and what little enjoyment that Shelby and Mike, and her brothers may be able to find. They have 2 extraordinary sons that have accomplished many achievements in Heather's honor, and I hope they see the beauty in that.

Submitted by mizzponder2006 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:06pm.

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Submitted by redding on Sat, 10/11/2008 - 9:57pm.

Listen up people why can't we just pray for this child he need prayer his family need prayer,Ms.Rhode family need prayer let's just let our lord and savior be the judge,sure i know this family is hurt also the Thomas family but i pray that god with strengthen BOTH OF these family because they both are suffering a great lost. talking down on mr. thomas is not gonna help his family or bring back ms.Rhode but prayer will help both family so starting right now let's began to pray

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:50pm.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:25pm.

You got too far into your imaginary character. Bye bye.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:29pm.

so mizz should be history.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:11pm.

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Submitted by winby1 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 4:31pm.

Graduate you must have been a close friend to Heather because you have described her perfectly. I also support everything you have stated in your blog and thank you so much for taking the time to support my family. It means alot to me and even more to Shelby and her two brothers.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 8:01pm.

bring misery.
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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 9:45pm.

Cyclist,
In this case it was the gangstas with guns looking for money that brought the misery. The people in the apartment were only smoking flowers.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


Submitted by Shhhh on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 11:42pm.

He should get the death penalty because there is no doubt they have the right guy. That piece of trash killed Heather before she even graduated from High School! He robbed her of her life.

Everybody in that house was scared out of their minds. They did everything these idiots demanded. Heather wasn't trying to do anything. She was just standing there, begging for her life. The ******* shot her anyways.

These guys are true murderers. I think the other two deserve life in prison and Thomas deserves to die. He is a cold-blooded criminal.

Submitted by winby1 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 11:00pm.

jeffc/mean/rumble/sky/guess/main/muddle/myt/carb/shhh. Thanks for your support.

Submitted by mizzponder2006 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 4:32pm.

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Submitted by beauvighn on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 1:12pm.

no comment...on the above. You do all democrats proud

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 10:13am.

matching bracelets. Smiling
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Submitted by MYTMITE on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 4:20pm.

Seeing the look on OJ's face was priceless. It is about time he was taken down a peg or two. He had really been throwing his weight around in Miami and even threatened a few motorists down there. Seems they were in his way when they were going the speed limit and he wasn't. Actually sped around them, blocked them off and threatened with a gun. He has finally found out he is not bigger than the law.

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 9:51pm.

OJ's karma finally caught up with him.

Submitted by MYTMITE on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 4:22pm.

Wonder how his 'ugly @$$' Bruno Magli shoes will look with stripes?

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 12:38pm.

The Prison View Golf Course

They can watch and even "work" the greens; but, they cannot play.
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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 9:37pm.

Personally, I suspect that you are not who you are pretending to be. I think that you are someone who can communicate and write as well as nearly anyone on here,a blogger who is trying to stir up ill will on the issue of race relations. Your postings just seem to lack some "street credibility" to me. Then I ask myself, "Who would do such a thing"?

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


Submitted by mizzponder2006 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 7:52pm.

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:00pm.

Tell me how someone whose writing skills are really as bad as yours can manage to operate a computer and use email. You are in this strictly to stir up resentment between peoples.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."


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Submitted by diva on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 8:57pm.

AND GO AWAY. PLEASE?????


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Submitted by MYTMITE on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 7:34pm.

I guess one sorry piece of trash had the goods on the other sorry piece of trash. I am sure it was a fair 'trail.' If he wasn't there doing what he wasn't supposed to be doing then that cracker jury could not have sentenced his non-cracker azz. Now let's hear how he be the perfect chile an jest in the rong place---he was passing out pamflets for he church or selling gurl skout cookies.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:09pm.

When does the rioting begin?
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Submitted by MYTMITE on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:08pm.

If you put your daughter out of your house then anyone has the right to shoot her down in cold blood and it is the parent's fault? Gee, where did you study criminal justice? You know it is really odd how your spelling and grammar is right on for a while and all of a sudden you must have a brain f___t because your spelling and grammar sounds like someone who has never seen the inside of a school. Veerry interesting---Could you be our token rabble rouser?

Submitted by winby1 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:40pm.

Your exactly right in your response but Heather was not put out of the house. I have no idea where that comes from. Heather was a straight A student at Stars Mill High School and an absolute joy to be around. There would have been no reason to make her leave her home what so ever. She left without our consent because she thought (just like all 17 year old teenagers feel) that they are ready to face the world on their own. She was planning on leaving that house in 2 months and go to college. She just didn't get out soon enough. I guess she just didn't see the danger in people like "rick" and his good friend mizzpnder. There are some very violent people in this world and it comes from upbringing with no education. It's sad because education is free. And again thanks for your support!!

Submitted by MYTMITE on Sun, 10/05/2008 - 12:14pm.

I have four daughters all close in age and I remember how it was when they turned seventeen and eighteen. They felt invincible, wanted to be out on their own and thought they could handle anything. Thank God, I never had to face the tragedy you face. Three of them are mothers and have gone through the same thing and know just what I felt as they too experienced it. It is part of growing up--and we just can't keep that from happening.

Your daughter sounds like a wonderful young woman. It is small comfort but you will have those wonderful memories of her to sustain you. I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

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Submitted by diva on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 8:59pm.

knows why Laughing out loud


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Submitted by snappynappy on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 9:06pm.

Kinda like Bonkers..Dollar, et. all.


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Submitted by diva on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 7:28pm.

How so?


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Submitted by muddle on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 6:57pm.

I'm sure that you did not realize that there are rather strict (in your parlance: "strick") rules governing the use of the term "cracker."

You see, only crackers are permitted to employ the term in reference to their homies and fellow crackers. So we might be, say, loitering under a lamp post holding our brown bags and one of us will say to another, "Man, you jest one stupid cracker, you know dat?" Or "Hey, cracker, is that your ride?"

Some of our music uses the term as well. Consider, for example, the popular group, Crackers With an Attitude (CWA) and their classic line, "Da cracker crack ho and her cracker crack homies done leff da crack house."

So your use of "cracker," as a non-cracker, is deeply offensive. I'm going to call the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Cracker People) and we may stage a protest.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 2:12am.

LOL. You know we crackers don't stick together.


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Submitted by diva on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 9:01pm.

I just popped an implant! Laughing out loud


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Submitted by Main Stream on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 7:47pm.

...Cracker People...

I like that, muddle.

(I just luuuuuuv the south Smiling)
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Submitted by winby1 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 5:44pm.

mizzponder What other piece of trash?? His cousin?? Who knows him and said he did it!! mizzponder you are the racist and the worst kind of RACIST!! The kind of racist who does not know the difference between right and wrong!! Just like the COLD BLOODED MURDERER and your friend "rick"!! You are a disgrace to your race and you are the reason there should be free birth control and abortion!!! Yes mizzponder it is over and "rick" will never be able to MURDER anyone outside prison walls again!! And mizzponder I do not know one white person who is offeneded by being called a cracker! Your ridiculous!!

Submitted by SamGoodie on Wed, 09/23/2009 - 3:39pm.

His cousin didnt say he did it til they told him if he did he would get out!

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 5:30pm.

Life with no parole. Fo shizzle there's going to be some shovin', but it ain't gonna be us. Ya feel me???

Oh yeah, I heard the Silver Comet Trail is a fair trail...bwwwaaaahhh


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Submitted by Main Stream on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 4:53pm.

I like Cheez-its the most - - - mmmmmmmmm, tabasco flavored.

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Submitted by dawn69 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 1:15am.

Hey main, I like cheeze-its too. But they give me the most horrible heartburn - for that matter, so does hearing a racist defend a murderer BECAUSE he's black.

P.S. Now that I've passed blogging 101 (keeping a reply within its' original thread), how in the hell do I import an image to accompany my post (like muddle's cool painting)? I suppose you can tell I'm not the computer savvy type and if I knew how I'd place one of those cute smiley faces here.


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Submitted by muddle on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 8:30am.

Glad you like my avatar.

Here's how to create your own.

Save an image that you like in your "my pictures" file.

Log in here, then click on your own name under "online users."

A screen will appear with three tabs: view, edit, contact.

Click "edit."

Scroll down to "upload picture" and click "browse.". This should open your "my pictures" file.

Double click the picture you want for your avatar.

Scroll down to "submit" and, well, submit.

Refresh the page to see if the new avatar shows up at the top.

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Submitted by guess88 on Thu, 10/02/2008 - 6:06pm.

He killed a girl for NO reason!!! They should do to him what he did to her....PUT HIM TO DEATH!! Our Court Systems are so stupid sometimes....God Bless her family

Submitted by mizzponder2006 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 4:34pm.

you stupid for believing it all people in coweta county is rascists yeah i said RASCISTS

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 10:30pm.

Thank you for the hooked on ebonics spelling lesson. Why do you defend a murderer?

Submitted by Rumblesis162 on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 9:47pm.

The only comments here about race are from you.

Oh, I forgot, it is ok for you to be racist!

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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 5:13pm.

Anybody have any idea what rascists or RASCISTS are?? I know anybody who can call other people stupid is smart enough to spell racist. Maybe not.


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Submitted by JeffC on Fri, 10/03/2008 - 6:12pm.

Does it kinda like make like you're skin like crawl when you hear people say stuff like, "you done went...", "they be done going to...", "all y'all is..." and "all's y'all is stupid if you ain't..."?


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 10:12am.

Assuming mizzponder really was an upset family member, that reminds me of the case in London this week where surviving members of a robbing gang were found guilty. In their last "job", two members of the gang were killed by police. One thief ran up on a van courier in front of a bank, demanding money at gunpoint. They were under surveillance because they had done this 18 times in 18 months. A police sniper killed the thief brandishing the gun instantly. Now, their families are asking why they couldn't just arrest them. They said "they just had to murder them since they couldn't catch them". They even whined that they were merely robbers, not murderers.

What in the hell ever happened to personal responsibility? Had that been me robbing bank couriers and killed in the process, my mother would have said I should not have been robbing banks. If my own son was doing that, I would be so angry that he made the choices he made and died doing it. Mad at him, not the police. We have laws to live by.


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Submitted by meanoldconservatives on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 10:07am.

You have no idea. I try my best to stay on point, but.....

Also, I have to agree with carbon on this one. What a great opportunity to use that situation to start a mini race war in this forum. Interesting timing.

On the other hand, if it was really someone defending a cold-blooded murderer, that begs another question. How did they know the people commenting on the verdict were "crackers"? Would they be saying all "non-crackers" would oppose the verdict just to be "keeping it real"???


Submitted by winby1 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 10:41am.

Mean there were two African American jurors on this trial who comprehend right from wrong and I would personally like to thank them along with the other jurors for reaching the right verdict which was guilty on all 24 counts. The judge also put "rick" in his place by calling him a danger to all humans and a true killer with no regard for human life!! The District Attorney also put the two witnesses in perspective by telling the jury that sometimes you have to go to hell to get witnesses to convict the DEVIL!!

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Submitted by JacquesMolay on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 12:58pm.

Winby1,
I am in complete agreement with the outcome from the jury. Mandel should have been charged with murder as well. If it were not for Mandel and Eric selling drugs out of the apartment there would have no reason for the robbery. In addition, Mandel could have simply given over the money and maybe the shooting would not have started. This situation started with Mandel and Eric selling drugs and for them to escape responsibility is a travesty.


Submitted by winby1 on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 5:03pm.

JacquesMolay I appreciate your anger for the situation and I also agree with some of your statements but Jacques there is no excuse for armed robbery or murder. I also believe that if these three people did not rob and kill at this location it would have been at another. I also believe that "rick" went and wanted to murder and it didn't matter who it was. As anry as I am with Mandel he didn't shoot and kill Heather!!

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 10/04/2008 - 10:39am.

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