Find that it is interesting that our state reps and senators will take
credit for their 'close relationships' with the governor when he make a smart move ... in fact, they will invoke their 'persuasive powers' at a drop of a hat. Would think that with their 'close contacts' they might have used their high tech 'phones' to call the governor after seeing and hearing weather forecasts for two weeks!! Anyone heard anything from our 'representatives' during this fiasco??? Their collective lack of planning is totally amazing!

It's amazing- maybe they are having a Republican't convention in Spain- while the peasants sit here wondering if we'll have gas to get to work.

On November 4!!

He is there on an economic trade mission to lure companies to Georgia to set up shop. You would be complaining if he didn't try to lure companies here too. You'd be saying he isn't doing enough to bolster the economy.

Who would want to come here? No water, no gas, a republican't as a gov.
Guess he'll have to use some of his tactics to "lure" them like he used on us to get us to vote for him. Yep, the Hispanics are always looking to come to Georgia.

Bonkers, are you having a conversation with yourself again?

I think the state planes are all King Airs (unless they've gotten some new ones). Those would not be fun to take across the Atlantic. If you need gas to go to work that's fine, but what is your commute? Is it 400-500 miles? No? Then you don't need a full tank in order to get there. In fact you're probably burning more fuel per mile to keep the tank full because of the added weight.

Don't you think that the state can lease a jet? 'Cause he went by jet- to Europe. You must be a Republican because you have mastered the ability to change the subject.
And, I'm not topping off - just don't blame those who are for the shortage.. can you say Republicans.
(I'm just having so much fun with this Republican blame game..)

Well maybe they chartered a jet-is that what you mean? Or maybe he flew on the airlines? I don't know. Do you know? Have you seen that he went by private jet? As stated before there is no jet fuel shortage..they don't run on 87 octane. What about Obama and McCain flying their chartered airliners around campaigning?

I think masked is right; but I also believe the news media is 'fueling' this story and causing unnecessary hysteria. I just went to Alabama yesterday and the gas was 3.69 with no lines at all. Do they have another few pipelines? I was under the impression that this colonial pipeline was the only one running through the southeast. The thing is that the news media is not reporting on a shortage like we are here. They had nearly 10 minutes of coverage on it this afternoon and evening. People are panicked and drying up the stations.

There is also Plantation Pipeline. If my memory serves me correct, Plantation services ATL with Jet A.
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I was wondering why we aren't running out at ATL. I remember back during Katrina or Rita we were tankering fuel in from wherever we would fly to. Usually we are hauling more fuel out than we need so we don't have to buy expensive gas at other places.

Good question, how many are? But with only 41% of crude production capacity available and only half of that area's refineries operating we are going to experience shortages even with topping off activities. I suspect it will take some time (possibly weeks) before refineries and offshore pumping activities return to normal. That's what we get since we lack supply diversity. It's the "all eggs in one basket" thingy. This hurricane season ends in November. I sure hope we don't have another one.
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certainly requires a sense of humor:
You know you're from the Gulf Coast when....

You have FEMA's number on your speed dialer.
You have more than a hundred 'C' and 'D' batteries in your kitchen drawer.
Your pantry contains more than 20 cans of Spaghetti-Os.
You are thinking of repainting your house to match the plywood covering your windows.
You are on a first-name basis with the cashier at Home Depot.
You are delighted to pay $5 for a gallon of regular unleaded.
The road leading to your house has been declared a No-Wake Zone.
You decide your patio furniture looks better on the bottom of the pool.

You own more than three large coolers.
You rationalize helping a friend board up by thinking "It'll only take a gallon of gas to get there and back."
You have 2-liter coke bottles and milk jugs filled with water in your
freezer.
Three months ago you couldn't hang a shower curtain; today you can
assemble a portable generator by candlelight.
You catch a 13-pound redfish - in your driveway.
You can recite from memory whole portions of your homeowner's insurance policy.
At cocktail parties, women are attracted to the guy with the biggest
chainsaw.
You have had tuna fish more than 5 days in a row.
There is a roll of tar paper in your garage.
You can rattle off the names of three or more meteorologists who work
at the Weather Channel.
Someone comes to your door to tell you they found your boat.
Ice is a valid topic of conversation.
Your "drive-thru" meal consists of MRE's and bottled water.
Relocating to South Dakota does not seem like such a crazy idea.
You spend more time on your roof than in your living room.
You've been laughed at over the phone by a roofer, fence builder or a
tree worker.
A battery powered TV is considered a home entertainment center.
You don't worry about relatives wanting to visit during the summer.
Your child's first words are "hunker down."
Having a tree in your living room does not necessarily mean it's
Christmas.
Toilet Paper is elevated to coin of the realm at the shelters.
You know the difference between the "good side" and the "bad side "of a storm.
You go to work early and stay late just to enjoy the air conditioning.

There are still large segments of the Houston area with out power and not just the hard hit coastline. Some areas are as far away from the coast- imagine if Griffin took the direct hit and Norcross was being told it could be 6 weeks with out power. And as close as they are to the refineries- there are still shortages and high prices.

on the Boutique Fuel blend. What really pi$$es me off is that I have to burn that Low Sulfur blend to reduce emissions, yet I see all those 18 Wheelers and Dump Trucks BELLOWING Plumes of Black Smoke every time they take off. Wonder how many cars it would take to equal the emmissions of ONE of those big trucks?

How about the American Public whose fleet average mpg was 26 in 2007? That looks like a good place to start.

"I can't wait until tomorrow, because I get more lovable every day."

I happen to agree with you that in times of unusual circumstances (such as Hurricane Ike), low sulfur gas requirements should be suspended in the short term.

However, I think that the low sulfur gas goes a long way in reducing pollution in the metro Atlanta area. I'm not sure of the price differential between low sulfur and "regular" gas, but wouldn't you agree that given a choice between, say, mandating mass transit (MARTA) into Fayette and low sulfur gas that perhaps low sulfur gas would be preferable?

Or are you of the opinion that we should do nothing about air pollution in the metro area?

I'm of the opinion that like most government mandates, there is more hype than fact involved in all this.
I don't consider Fayette "metro Atlanta" and I think it was a drastic mistake for Fayette Commissioners to move us from the McIntosh Regional Commission to the ARC.
I don't believe emission inspections are necessary in Fayette County because there is less than a 2% failure rate and as been since this was mandated. If less than 2% of the cars fail emissions that is not enough to make any impact. This was solely lobbyist pushing this for the benefit of their clients selling the equipment required for emissions inspections.
I don't believe the "boutique" gas formula requirement of "low sulfur" mixtures have an overall impact. I believe this is once again another move of government to control our lives and of some lobbyist to push thru legislation for his clients to get the State to require this.
I'm not a scientist nor chemist, nor making my living proving something that doesn't exist.
I put this right next to the "man made global warming" fanatics that refuse to believe facts from unbiased experts.
Yes, I am of the opinion that with today's automobile technology, we do not need to be so fanatical about air pollution.
So Sniffles5... do you have a PhD in this area and can you speak as a knowledgeable expert? Or does your info come from the AJC, CNN and OwlGore?

Well, now, 30yearResident, I did a little research for you. Let me help lessen your ignorance. It seems the Federal government has clean air regulations that say, okay you individual counties, you have x number of cars and factories that produce so much pollution. We the government allow you to pollute the air to a certain percentage and if you go over that limit for three years in a row you will have to sell low sulfur gas during the hot part of the summer (from June 1 to Sept 15th). Fayette didn't do anything to lessen pollution so they have to face the consequences. (A "consequence" is the direct result of a particular action). This has nothing to do with the ARC, "metro Atlanta" or the Tri-lateral commission. This is not unlike when you and the missus go down to Tunica for the weekend and fail to leave enough food in the house for the youngsters...if you won't take care of what you're supposed to be in charge of, the government steps in and does your job for you.

You seem to feel it is your Christian duty to despoil the environment, I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree about this.

I'm saddened to hear that you are one of those Luddites who reject the concept of Global Warming (a theory that the vast majority of scientists now embrace).

Our state tax money is returning handsome dividends with the GEAA.

I'm still trying to decipher their name, Georgia Environmental Authorities Authority.
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Yeah, everyone is going to cut off their engine at all red lights, then start her up again when it turns green! Right!

Better still about driving the vehicle that uses the least gss: take the golf cart!

All this crap sounds like the people who try to tell you how to insulate around your windows and doors to save .13 cents a week!

Those people either sell weather strips and such, or work there.
If an idiot has a hole around the door big enough to make much difference, he is NOT going to strip it anyway!

The only way to reduce gas usage significantly right now is to create extreme shortages so that no one gets more than they have to have!

I saw that in WW2, where you got 3 gallon a week unless you could prove to the ration board that you must have more.
They issued the ration stamps!
Rationing does create a right neat "black market" though.

We will burn it if we can get it with the exception of those who can't afford it.

Yeah, everyone is going to cut off their engine at all red lights, then start her up again when it turns green! Right!

News flash about engine shut down at red lights; a Toyota Prius does just that. It sort of makes sense.
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I didn't say it didn't possibly make sense under the right conditions, I said few would bother as long as they had one more dollar or one more credit card! That is what I meant anyway!

Funny, I did not catch that reflection. But that's OK, I miss a lot of things.
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"You get zero miles to the gallon when you idle." Who would have ever thunk it??? Right up there with E=MC2!