PTC denied light for 74S sports fields

Fri, 09/26/2008 - 3:43pm
By: John Munford

Progress reported on 54W golf cart bridge

Peachtree City officials are still trying to convince the Georgia Department of Transportation to allow a traffic light on Ga. Highway 74 south at the city’s baseball and soccer complex.

The city’s recent application for a light was denied, but that doesn’t mean officials have lost hope. At last week’s City Council meeting, Mayor Harold Logsdon said he has called for a meeting with DOT arranged by Sen. Ronnie Chance for next month.

Logsdon said he intends to take DOT board member Sam Wellborn, who represents the district that includes Peachtree City, to the sports complex to show the light is necessary. The mayor also plans to take Wellborn to three other areas where he feels the DOT’s attention is needed.

“It’s like I told the governor when I met with him, dealing with DOT is just absolutely impossible,” Logsdon said.

Officials also said last week that the city was making progress on land acquisition for the connections needed to complete the Ga. Highway 54 West golf cart bridge. Two of the three parcels were already well underway and progress was being made on the third, which is owned by Cousins Properties, the owner of The Avenue shopping center, said City Attorney Ted Meeker.

Once the acquisition is complete the city’s construction drawings must be approved by the Georgia Department of Transportation before the project can be put out to bid, city officials said.

The bridge itself was built as part of the recent highway widening project, but residents have been stymied from using it until the connections can be made. Once complete, the bridge will link the Best Buy parking lot with the Ethan Allen parking lot and carts can use tunnels under the bridge to reach The Avenue shopping center.

The project was on hold for well over a year awaiting approval that it met federal air quality standards, an irony since the city’s electric-powered golf carts create no direct emissions. City officials later said one of the problems with the project was when an employee of an engineering firm that consults for DOT had left his position, causing the project to linger further before it got the necessary approval to proceed.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 7:51pm.

The guy is most hopeless person in the history of the representative democracy! He can't get out of his own way and the DOT hates him.

He can't get air quality approval for a cart bridge with electric carts and bicycles on it???

The guy who said Rapson, Weed and Brown couldn't get anything accomplished with DOT turns out to be the worst.

Oh, by the way mayor, we just love the beautiful cement wall down Hwy. 74. Be sure to thank DOT when you meet with them.

Vote Republican

Submitted by Bonkers on Tue, 09/30/2008 - 4:45am.

I can't wait for the graffiti on the wall. It will look so much better!

Maybe if they let Kudzoo grow all over it they can spray it, reckon?

They do carry knives to cut away the Kudzoo however. oR IS IT jUDZU?

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Submitted by CCB on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 9:15pm.

Look, Harold is a novice politician. He didn’t know what he was getting into. Sure he hasn’t done the best job in the world, but he’s only been in the job 3 years.

I didn't like the China stuff, but he was misled into that situation.

Submitted by Dondol on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 9:12am.

My kids have played at the BSC for years and we have never had to wait
more than a few moments to get out on the worst days. A traffic light there would just Screw up traffic on 74, but wait isn't that what the mayor does best, SCREW THINGS UP.

Now just why in the Hell do I have to press 1 for English?

Submitted by sunnyb68 on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 9:25am.

I live on this road, and not only does the traffic get bad there have been many accidents here. I pray everytime my daughter has drive that way it is so dangerous. It is not about waiting it is about safety. Also, when the grass is high on the right hand side it is hard to see down the hill. Maybe they could make a right hand turn lane? You have other drivers playing traffic cops to try and help the people get out. But one day this could also lead to an accident.
A light has been needed for a very long time! Check out the accident reports.

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Submitted by SLUF on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 10:24am.

Are they talking about the fields at Rockaway or the ones up further north on 74? Rockaway definitely needs a light, but I'm told it won't happen until they get done making Rockaway go into Holly Grove Rd. Who knows how long that will take. It is bad, though; because people will stop in the middle of Hwy 74 to help people turn off Rockaway. I do appreciate that but then some people will pass the person stopped on the side of the road thus creating a collision hazard.

Submitted by Spyglass on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 11:32am.

The BCS is just that, Baseball Soccer Complex. I think the fields at Rockaway are called Meade Field (if not, someone feel free to correct this).

Submitted by Spyglass on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 12:29pm.

Not the BCS, that's the popularity poll for College Football. Smiling

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 11:52am.

Yes, Meade Field is by Rockaway Road. BSC is north of there.

The frustrating part is being told not enough traffic at certain times of the day and/or number of accidents to warrant a light.

At minimum, when being used, there most assuredly is enough traffic to warrant a light. A huge complaint from many citizens.

This light is a 5-0 on Council, I can say that with confidence. Unlike the one at Line Creek, which is 3-2. Just stating both upfront before the questions are asked.

Our state rep is also favorable to it being there in talks with him. But, as he cautions, GDOT does not listen to politicians requests in making its decisions at these level. They have to be convinced it meets there demands.


Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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Submitted by CCB on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 9:18pm.

Don't tell me GDOT is putting in a light at Line Creek but not at south 74? What gives?

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Submitted by Don Haddix on Mon, 09/29/2008 - 9:48pm.

What is happening is that CCD applied around September of 2007. GDOT rejected it due to the 1,000' rule and told them to sit down and talk with them about alternatives. CCD did not do so, per GDOT.

Then on June 20th another permit request was received from CCD by GDOT. It was again rejected with suggestions of closing the median, connecting to the Shoppes and Planterra Way lights and maybe also right turn lanes only on 54, then having PTC submit the permit request.

PTC requested information from GDOT and received it in July, stating the above stipulations were given to CCD.

Now PTC has submitted a permit request on CCD's behalf. As for the submission, Doug Sturbaum and I were never asked our opinion because they knew we would oppose it.

For clarity, GDOT regulations state a light can be granted at less than 1,000' distance if, and only if, left turn traffic is minimal. But we all know at this location it not be minimal.

At the vote giving CCD the SUP CCD said they needed to get started grading immediately. Permission was granted 3-2, but as of last week no grading has taken place. Read into that what you will about confidence they will get the light.

I agree on 74S. That is a frustration I do not understand either.

Hope that answers your questions.

Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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