are one reason these blogs will NEVER be taken seriously. Claiming this is Harold's wish, and below saying all Harold needs to get something approved is a few cold BEERS.

We agree, they won't sell, and it's too dense, but acting like this is Harold's dream is beyond stupid. Why not just address the proposal with facts, instead of constantly slinging mud.

If this is the proposal that Wieland wants to stick with, I'm against changing the zoning, PERIOD. Just leave it industrial.

Not slinging mud. Since harold was elected the appearance of the city has gone south. Dramatically in my opinion. I don't think it is by accident. For a change I'm not the one who brought up his weakness for adult beverages.

Let's face it the opinions of the citizens here have fallen on deaf ears period. Whether you write the city council directly or a letter to the editor, the citizens here do not matter to this council. The only exceptions are Don and Doug, they actually have our best interest at heart.

I can't imagine why they hired that company to do the phone survey. They have never indicated that the citizens opinions matter why waste the money?.

Does anyone seriously think cluster homes by a railroad will sell for 1 million? Seriously?

on the City's appearance for one. Exactly what has this Commission approved that makes you say that? In my opinion, the worst thing EVER approved by a PTC Council was the WALLY WORLD, 2nd to possibly the homes in the Glenloch area near the pool, but that was YEARS ago.

Who in the world thinks 1 Million is serious? I for one don't see the demand period. But I will grant the property owner the right to propose something, as ridiculous as his proposal is.

And to answer your question about the Council and response, I heard from them recently when I inquired about the "bridge to no-where". Maybe they know who you are, and just how ridiculous you sound on these blogs with your continual mud slinging.

344 new homes means 344 new families have moved into Peachtree City/Fayette.

According to the Georgia Census of 2000, the average household contains approximately 3.14 people, this includes all families. The median average for child rearing aged families increases dramatically, wherein the average for "families" is much higher. Approaching 2 children per household under the age of 18.

http://www.movers.com/moving-guides/us-state-profiles/stateinfo-full.aspx?st=georgia#censusReports
http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/hh-fam/tabST-F1-1990.csv

According to the Board of Education's own brochures, it costs on average $7300.00 per student per year to educate these children.
http://www.fcboe.org/finance/docs/05-06financialsummary.pdf

So lets just pick a low number and say that everyone of those 344 homes, will have only one child in our schools.

Now how much in real value must each home cost, before the millage rate actually pays for that child in our schools?

Currently, the millage rate for the Board of Education is between 19 and 20 mills. That means for every $2500 in actual value of your home, you will pay about $20 bucks per year to the BOE. (20 mills represents 20 dollars per $1000 of assessed value. All homes are assessed at 40% of their value, ergo, $1000 in assessed valued equals $2500 in real value.)

So, if each home is valued at $1,000,000.00, then the Board of Education will get about $8000 per household.

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Now these are just raw numbers correlating the value of single family homes with their responsibility to the tax base vs. their burden upon it. Mindful that this does not include the revenue derived by businesses real or personal property taxes, which would obviously lessen the needed additional resourses. To be fair, it doesn't consider the households with no children that pay BOE millage rates, but that rate is often reduced for senior citizens. But the numbers are real.

There are many other contributing factors, such as the additional cars that are parked at each home every night. 2 more cars for each home means that much more traffic. Each home produces sewage and uses more of our water resources.

For every action there is a reaction. We shouldn't ignore the overall and long ranging affects of these homes on our quality of life, without serious consideration of the repercussions.

Wasn't there some lawsuit to stop the West Village annexation? Whatever happened to that?

I'm beginning to think that those who are championing these new developments are playing us current homeowners like a bunch of chumps with the respect to the current stage 4 drought conditions.

We all know the things that we have to do in order to stretch our water resources. If we elect to disregard the current rules we run afoul of them and then the risk of paying a fine and or having our water shut-off.

So my question. Are we, the current homeowners in the county, being played as chumps? Is there really a water shortage?
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That answer is complex in that the state has first say, the county second and PTC third on usage, etc.

But, with that said maybe the site found here will help in tracking water conditions. That should help in comparing development to resources, etc.

To be honest, in conversations and classes with some state experts on the issue the pattern is water resources decline faster that just by the increased usage by increasing the amount of non permeable surfaces laid. Which means not allowing water to soak into the ground to be retained allows it enter streams faster and be carried away before it can do us any good. And that we are not in good shape, especially around Atlanta, water wise, with it getting worse fast.

Having been raised in Mid West farm country I can tell you the water table is, in some ways, more important than rain fall. Rain all you want but if it does not get into the ground you are in trouble both irrigation and potable water wise.

Unfortunately we have too many in government that are totally focused on building and growing the population. They do not seem to understand there is growth in numbers versus growth in quality, both of which can fuel an economy, but in very different ways.

Not sure if that will help or not.

Don Haddix
PTC Councilman
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donhaddix.com

for honest answers.

This is a typical developer dump-off. Wieland will flood Fayette schools, burden services and finance it all with affirmative action mortgages from brokerage houses teetering on the edge of bankruptcy already.

Too many City Councils and County Commissions make a bad decision that is magnified years later. At the time they will make up all kinds of excuses and pat each other on the back for being "courageous". Commissioners Sprayberry and others did. PTC Councilmember Carol Fritz, after charading as a populist, folded like a pup tent and cast the deciding vote for the 54/74 debacle that Fayette County still suffers under.

MGarlow you are right--- keep up the pressure. It does not look like this council (or at least 3 of them) can say no. It makes you concerned after the Sany trip--- why types of gratuities are Logsdon and McMullen taking in other instances that we DON'T know about?

If you have read the proposal for the sight, it includes provisions for an at grade crossing and a bridge to the east side. the developement would also open up McDuff Parkway to HWY74, and alleviate traffic to the new shopping eyesore on the westside.

The at grade crossing and bridge are still up in the air as to who and how much Wieland will contribute for said construction. It would have been a joint venture between John Wieland and Levitt Bros. Howeve' Levitt went under due to the city council dragging their feet.

“You get the government you deserve.”

I have not read the proposal so thanks for the information but does this mean the current access at 74 would be closed? There would be no direct access to 74 from this development?

I believe the entrance to HWY74 would be just to the south of Kedron at the RxR crossing. That was in the original proposal circa a year and a half ago.

“Every time you vote Democrat God kills a kitten.”

Courtesy of Sany, Wieland now knows the way to Harold's heart. It ain't the $3,000 grand in air fare it is the endless supply of cold ones. Cheap beer is ok, too.

Your comments speak for themselves.

Carol, dear, you need not express your support for this latest development. Remember, it was your loving embrace for the 54/74 development mess that lead to your being voted out of office. So, please, you don't need to move, just quiet down. Thank you.

Why do you think that I refer to our Mayor as Otis Campbell (re: Andy Griffith show)