Response to predictable assertions

Tue, 07/29/2008 - 3:23pm
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There is an interesting cycle that occurs here in The Citizen with the frequency of a lunar eclipse: A local story will take a racial tack, tempers will flare, and a barrage of letters to the editor showing how “blacks have chips on their shoulders” or “blacks have still not gained racial parity” result.

Welcome to the 2008 eclipse. To avoid confusion, let’s pick things up at Michelle Daniel’s letter to the editor of July 15. Ms. Daniels makes the assertion that Bill Webster’s July letter, “Crying wolf on racism,” was not negative, but “simply stating facts.”

Here is a quote from her letter responding to Anthony Evans, who took offense to the “crying wolf” piece:

“First of all, he must be racially sensitive to think that Mr. Webster’s ‘crying wolf’ letter (in the July 2 edition of The Citizen) was negative. To the contrary, the letter was simply stating facts. Are we no longer able to have an open dialogue without hurting the feelings of a collective group of people, when simple facts are being stated?”

Let us put some of the “facts” expressed by Bill Webster under the microscope for closer scrutiny:

Webster fact list 1 — reasons for whites to resent blacks:

“What could white people resent about black people? Here is a partial list: affirmative action, O.J. Simpson, 100 Black Men of Atlanta, Jeremiah Wright, black racism, Duke lacrosse scandal, Al Sharpton, class warfare, Don Imus, Jesse Jackson, the N word, and Presidential voting conclusions.”

I believe that when crafting a non-negative, fact-based letter on race relations, what better way to start than with a list of why my race should resent yours. Everyone with me so far?

Webster “facts” on the U.S. legal system:

“Everybody, black or white, knows that O.J. Simpson killed two people, but a black jury set him free. His trial began a period, which still exists today, where black people are justified for whatever they do or are judged to be innocent simply because they are black, i.e., racism.”

This is how a person clouded by “resentment” towards a particular race would see the OJ verdict. Perhaps I can offer another perspective through comparison:

Robert Blake; Phil Spector; OJ Simpson — What do they have in common? They are all wealthy men. They are free men who had the best legal teams money could buy.

OJ’s team rightly presented evidence that one of the key LA investigators who had access to evidence was prejudiced against blacks by word and deed. His name was Mark Fuhrman. And this created what lawyers and judges like to call “reasonable doubt.”

I would suggest this reasonable doubt had less to do with race than quality of legal defense. And as for Mr. Webster’s suggestion that blacks are “judged innocent simply because they are black,” I offer the exhaustive efforts of The Justice Project.

According to the Justice Project and court records, since 2001, 19 men in Dallas County, Texas, alone have been set free after being cleared by DNA evidence of the crimes they were convicted of.

That is just one county in this good ol’ U.S. of A. Patrick Waller is the latest man to be released. His kid-glove treatment only netted him 15 undeserved years behind bars.

I can see why the resentment is festering in white America for that one. The common thread between the Americans being exonerated and cleared of previous convictions is that they are overwhelmingly black males.

This in no way says that all black men in prison are innocent, but I believe it is solid proof that being black as a defendant will most definitely not earn one a “free pass.”

In using the Duke lacrosse scandal as a reason for whites to resent blacks, I would remind Mr. Webster that the Duke lacrosse players were hounded by Mike Nifong, an overzealous prosecutor who is white. I’m not sure why the black community earns ire for his actions.

If anyone faults the black community for Don Imus losing his job over very unprofessional words concerning an NCAA basketball team, they must not be a free market conservative.

In the free market, as I understand it, businesses and corporations can hire and fire people based on their performance. To suggest Mr. Imus’ bosses should not have fired him for calling a championship team a group of “nappy headed hoes” flies in the face of a business’ right to define its message and messengers.

Ultimately, I do hope that Michelle Daniels understands that it is not being “racially sensitive” to address someone’s “liberal” use of facts as they see them. I’ll use her closing comments as an example:

“In closing, the beauty of this world we live in is that we are free to go where opportunity awaits us. If you can find one nation on the African continent where you can fulfill your God-given potential and have a better quality of life, then you should ‘go for it.’ “

I would respectfully suggest that someone who makes a nuanced “go back to Africa” statement while opining that a lack of negativity exists in such argument is truly locked in battle with themselves. May their best face win.

Kevin King

Peachtree City, Ga.

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Submitted by MainframeComputerGuy on Sat, 08/02/2008 - 12:31am.

Sorry, I don't buy it. You've got 20 out of thousands -- yeah, it's going to happen until we have perfect proof in every case. You quote OJ like that was a travesty. Let's see, we have the slow motorcade where he held himself hostage, the shoe prints, the ridiculous glove fitting test and Mark Furhman -- all providing excuses for a Black jury to say "racism". All you sycophants sucking up to good ol' Hack should feel really great -- you're supporting the claim that OJ is innocent.

Sorry, until the ratio drops to something like 50:1 I'm still going to assume that any Black male approaching me in anything resembling an aggresive manner is really a threat. And I hope Law Enforcement does the same.


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 08/05/2008 - 5:00pm.

Because they have shown a tendancy to show up to a debate of issues and try to shift the focus away from the actual issue. Case in point:

"Sorry, I don't buy it. You've got 20 out of thousands -- yeah, it's going to happen until we have perfect proof in every case. You quote OJ like that was a travesty."

1. The actual issue in the letter is addressing racial undertones and civility in discussions about race; not a break-down of prison demographics.

2. That is 20 men in one county of one state since 2001.

3. I never "quoted" Ojay. I sited the OJ trial and compared it to the trials of two other rich guys in similar circumstance to show "not guilty verdicts" can be more about expensive legal defense than color.

"All you sycophants sucking up to good ol' Hack should feel really great -- you're supporting the claim that OJ is innocent."

Now, Mainframe: That's just weird man. You doing okay? Did I miss something? Do you understand that "innocent" and "not guilty" are two different things? Don't you see that OJ is an example that is tertiary to the main thrust of my letter? Are you okay?

"I'm still going to assume that any Black male approaching me in anything resembling an aggresive manner is really a threat."

Mainframecomputerguy, I'm sure that every black male that reads your post and sees your "I am mainframecomputerguy" t-shirt, then steps towards you in an "aggressive manner" are definitely not to be trusted or welcomed. Good luck with all the guys that fit that description, and I hope you resolve your issues.

Come back and tell us how it's going sometime.

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by MainframeComputerGuy on Thu, 08/07/2008 - 10:53pm.

Sorry "Hack", I don't know your friends. Might they be the traveling Accountant and the cyclist who insist on using this site as their private chat room to swap family pictures and plan lunches?

Obviously I'm missing something, because all I see here now is obfuscation and your blowing smoke with issues that are totally off point. This started with a letter from a purported NAACP rep whining about the results of a Fayette County trial. The (supposed) NAACP has been visable and vocal here of late, whining about the Courts meting out sentences to thugs who happen to be Black that are other than a pat on the cheek.

There was a response (which I appreciated, as I had been formulating my own) from a Father who has adopted Black Daughters, basically complaining (my interpretation) that it always seems the race card is played and can't we get away from that and focus on the issues.

We had a little back and forth here then -- it was obvious you took exception to the general tone being expressed (not just by me) and felt obligated to raise some (typical) statistics that I interpreted as being "proof" that there is indeed racism in the criminal justice system because "so many" Blacks have had their convictions reversed by new DNA testing. I countered with some statistics on the numbers of Blacks compared to the other major races currently in prison, the intent being to show that while you had a "high" number, maybe it was because of the relatively high number of Blacks who comprise that population in the first place. Then you wrote your letter, certainly eloquent but basically with the tired whine that the "high" numbers are proof of something other than "who's doing the crime".

And here we are. I won't bother to try to debate your sematics or assumptions about who I am or where I'm coming from. And yes, I am just fine, thank you very much. But it sure sounds like you have smoke coming out of your ears and you think that your condescending little cracks will show your adoring audience that you are calmly in control.

Good luck with YOUR issues -- you fit right in with the general Atlanta attitude.


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Submitted by NUK_1 on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 9:00pm.

While I agree with parts, I think you're off on the OJ issue. I didn't see or hear of any white people celebrating the not guilty verdicts for Robert Blake or Phil Spector. There was no "WE WON" or the loads of hollering, applause and celebration that I heard while eating at an Atlanta restaurant during lunch when the OJ verdict was announced on TV. White outrage over the OJ verdict was about how gleeful some blacks were about it more than the fact that he got acquitted of murder. Of course, the MSM really poured tankers of gas on this fire because there is money to be made in controversy and people being all PO'd.

As far as blacks(or anyone else) being freed due to DNA technology that is now available, I think we all can agree that's a great thing. I am not sure though that this alone proves that black defendants are more likely to be found guilty simply because they are black. When the majority of the prison population is black, it makes statistical sense that DNA being used to free innocent people will likely free more blacks since they are the majority of inmates. DNA also only tells you the wrongly incarcerated didn't commit the crime, not necessarily who did. It cannot be assumed that because a black person was freed due to DNA evidence that another black person didn't commit the crime in the first place. What I am saying is that in how many cases is the wrong black man convicted when it was another black man who committed the crime? So, DNA is just freeing innocent people and that doesn't mean that the overall black prison population will go down.

I think the whole too many black people in prison issue can be traced more to the War on People..errr.."Drugs" and part of that is the idiotic disparity in sentencing drug offenders for crack cocaine in comparison to other street drugs. Now that is blatant racism because just like meth is mostly a "white" drug, crack is more of a "black" drug, or at least it was when the draconian legislation elevating punishments were established. It was also directly brought about with the help of a lot of urban legislators who happen to be black demanding tough tough tough on crack anything and not thinking for 5 minutes about the unintended consequences that are more devastating to families and communities than some crackheads running around being stupid. People put in prison tend to have a difficult time ever supporting themselves, much less anyone else, and there aren't a lot of employers eager to hire ex-cons. Then you also have the fact that recreational drug users that happen to be black are more likely to get jail time than white users.

Thankfully, Barney "Hot Bottom" Franks and Ron Paul introduced legislation this week basically decriminalizing pot, a first step towards some sort of sanity when it comes to what are now known as illegal drugs. It has no chance of going anywhere as neither party has any kind of spine, group intelligence or common sense, but at least Franks and Paul are making the effort instead of just yakking about it. Good on them.


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 9:52am.

I believe you are misunderstanding my analysis of the OJ issue. I, in no way, am using this case to address numbers of blacks in prison or percentages of blacks who commit crimes. I was addressing loose facts by the author of "Crying Wolf." Specifically, this argument:

"His trial began a period, which still exists today, where black people are justified for whatever they do or are judged to be innocent simply because they are black, i.e., racism.”

I believe, Nuk, that if the vast majority of people cleared of wrongful convictions are black, this shows that just being black has not given them a free ride or justification or a presumption of innocence. These are people that were convicted with a supposed "beyond reasonable doubt" standard when they had not even commited the crimes. I think anyone must concede that blacks are convicted of crimes at a disproportionate level WRT our percentage of the population. That is in no way my argument. As for the whole "crying wolf" thing, check this link out:

Prejudiced South Carolina Judge Kicked off of Bench

Sometimes, Nuk, there are WOLVES out there.

Cheers!

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Fyt35 on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 1:06pm.

In today’s ever changing human landscape, we all have our faults and we all have good qualities, black, brown or white. However, we must respect each other for our differences and be tolerant; it’s the right thing to do. Nice dissertation, these are words to live by.


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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 7:21pm.

one of the best writers on this site. There is a solution to the problem of racial tension, and it requires that humans evolve into the loving and caring beings that they are designed to be. The culture of "Believing is Seeing" has to give way to clarity, and our fear has to give way to trust and cooperation, for all of us. This is not a black and white issue, because when you mix black and white you get gray, not all of the beautiful shades of brown that humans come in. We can do it, by spending the currencies that the Creator has put into our accounts: compassion, consciousness, and love. We are rich beyond comprehension.


Submitted by Bonkers on Thu, 07/31/2008 - 7:21am.

What has "evolve into the loving and caring beings" have to do with guys robbing stores with pistols and then shooting them a lot of the time?

How are all those hordes of black young people in Georgia jails going to fit into "loving and caring beings?"
Plenty of white characters there also, but older in general.

"Currencies into our accounts," means the ability to do better, I assume? Well many don't seem to have the ability!

Blaming the method they were brought into and up in this world as the excuse will never get resolved!
So what do we do? Give some a lot of money to have their children properly and more to raise them properly (whatever properly means)?

Let us fire up the old "CCC" camps of the 30s again and give them all (girls also) a job with some pay to send home. But mainly some work to do.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 7:13pm.

I'll be glad when we get a leg up on local criminals of all colors. As many have said before, we all want a safe community no matter what color we are!

Cheers mate,

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 9:44am.

You are a voice of reason and intelligence in our community. Smiling


Submitted by jevank on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 9:01am.

I have never posted here before, although I have read this board for years. However, your post prompts me to reply.

You must realize that people who spew such hate on these boards are recognized for what they are: Ignorant, self-righteous people who spend too much energy trying to get their low-life opinions validated. I, like many others, will not give them the fuel they need by responding.

I have, however, taken offense to a select few. The way I handled one offensive blogger was to donate $1.00 to a Planned Parenthood in her honor every time she mentioned the word “abortion.” (I would have included links associated, but I don’t have the time or the money for that nonsense.) It got rather expensive at times, but lately I have needed a new outlet.

I would be honored if you would name a charity in which I can give to counter some of the hate on this board. I will have to figure out the blogger and the “magic word,” but that shouldn’t be too difficult.

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 7:16pm.

You might want to keep that money for when the "deficit reduction act" is instituted Smiling

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 9:41am.

"The way I handled one offensive blogger was to donate $1.00 to a Planned Parenthood in her honor every time she mentioned the word “abortion.”"

That's a wonderful idea.


Submitted by aliciabooker on Wed, 07/30/2008 - 12:40am.

Thank you Mr. King for your letter. It shows that ignorance should not be tolerated from anyone. You so eloquently stated the facts. We must get away from resenting each other (regardless) of race, and embrace the commonalities that bring us together. I commend you for sharing your passion and desire to ignite change. Unfortunately, people like Mrs. Daniels won't even see your point.

Alicia Booker
Tyrone, GA

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