Line Creek development: It’s the best deal we are going to get

Tue, 07/15/2008 - 3:12pm
By: Letters to the ...

I have read several Free Speech comments regarding the proposed development at Line Creek West, in which the writers blamed City Council for decisions that were actually made 30 years ago.

Recall that Capital City Development (CCD) asked for special permission to exceed PTC’s square-footage limit for two of the stores in their proposed development. For more than a year I, too, believed that CCD should have to follow the rules just like everybody else. Why should they get any special treatment?

I got my answer when I attended a couple City Council meetings, where I learned the following:

1. The property in question, at the corner of Ga. Highway 54 and Planterra Way, has been zoned commercial since 1977. The fact that I don’t believe a commercial development of any kind should go in at this location, or that traffic patterns are already impossible, is irrelevant. It is zoned commercial and that is not going to change.

2. Whether Peachtree City citizens want another shopping center or believe that another commercial entity can be successful in our town, which already has a high commercial vacancy rate, is also irrelevant. Again, the property has been zoned commercial for 30 years and that is not going to change.

3. Sooner or later something will go in at that corner. It will be commercial. And under current PTC size limits, that “something” could be a gas station and a fast food joint. Quik Trip plus Burger King is, in fact, a viable option for the location, and these establishments meet all PTC requirements.

4. Looking more closely at the CCD proposal, it is easy to see that a tremendous amount of effort was made to design a complex that is consistent with the upscale design of other commercial establishments in PTC; and that compliments the design of establishments located across Hwy. 54.

Orientation of the buildings, layout and flow of parking lots, and “plaza” type design make it pleasing to the eye. It includes a raised, landscaped buffer on the Cardiff Park side, a buffer on Planterra Way, and a golf cart path for access from Planterra Ridge. It minimizes light pollution, nighttime activities, and industrial noise. It allows for future traffic control with an easement to Huddleston Road.

The developer has also agreed in writing to 27 (I think) restrictions on the type of stores that can go in, including: no tattoo parlors, automotive parts stores, kennels, pawn shops, or dozens of others. The developer has also agreed to $200,000 worth of landscaped medians. There is much, much more. In fact, the majority of the long list of items Councilwoman Plunkett has requested to improve aesthetics and reduce impact has been granted.

5. The reason for the special use permit allowing two larger-than-usual stores in the development is so that the developer can court “credit tenants.” Credit tenants are usually national stores, such as Whole Foods or Trader Joe’s. Credit tenants are more profitable, more reliable and less likely to vacate their stores.

6. Cardiff Park neighbors have spoken at City Council in support of the CCD proposal. Perhaps they realize what could happen — what else could go in at this location — if the CCD proposal does not work out.

Mayor Logsdon and Councilman Steve Boone have made it clear that even bigger boxes, such as Kohl’s or even Costco, are not objectionable to them.

Councilmen Haddix and Sturbaum object to the CCD proposal, which begs the question of what would inevitably come next at the location. Finally, Councilwoman Plunkett, knowing she is the swing vote, asked for the moon from the developer, and got it.

While I initially objected to the special use permit, I have watched, listened, asked questions and observed, and I now believe that, like it or not, this is the best possible option.

Kim Learnard

Peachtree City, Ga.

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Submitted by JGF9148 on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 8:13am.

I appreciate Ms. Learnard's honesty (before running for council) in writing this letter. Now that she's running has she changed her spot's? Will she change her opinion just to tell the folks what she thinks they want to hear just to secure a seat on council? This years vote is going have long term effects on the direction this city takes.Choose wisely folks.

Stay tuned.


Submitted by MYTMITE on Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:59pm.

Learned that is!

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Wed, 10/21/2009 - 10:33pm.

Kim Learnard on Falcon Field

“Falcon Field… we’ve all known about it since the day we moved to Peachtree City. But did you know that Falcon Field serves our industrial base, facilitates recreational flying, and hosts the annual Great Georgia Air Show? Falcon Field has recently increased our competitiveness in the business flyer market, both nationally and internationally.”

Mrs. Learnard, did you know that “Falcon Field” has, is and forever will be. a money loosing proposition, funded by the PTC taxpayers, for the past several years?

Did you know that Falcon Aviation just recently moved their entire operation out of PTC’s Falcon Field to Newnan/Coweta because they believed the management of Falcon Field were a bunch of SCREW-UPS? See PTC airport upheaval and then ask where the money came from? It’s a kind of ‘Paul Harvey’ story, if you know what I’m saying.

See Flight school moving operations to Newnan for a reference.

Did you know that Falcon Aviation purchased five acres at Newnan/Coweta Airport and is building a new facility there?

I can’t imagine why anyone would leave as Falcon Field is such a great place to do business.

Do you know why the citizens of PTC, et al, have been paying millions of dollars, via hotel/motel taxes to Falcon Field and have NOTHING to show for it?

Show me the money that Falcon Field has generated for this community!

While I’m at it: Shame on you for preaching ”Line Creek development: It’s the best deal we are going to get” Just how much time did you contribute to the discussions on this? I was on several of the citizen panels and voiced my opinions; you were nowhere to be found.

Your ability to flip/flop on this issue is astounding.

At the recent candidate forums you boasted that you were against “BIG BOX’ development and you whole heartedly supported the “Land Use
Plan” of PTC. Yet we have your written ‘Letter to the Editor’ that states the opposite. Reference Learnard and 54 West. Thanks ‘Hoosier Fan’.

As you have just recently decided to become interested in the local ‘goings-on’/city politics, I would suggest that you refrain from making such grand ”I know what’s best for PTC” pronouncements.

You’re sounding a lot like Mrs. Plunkett when she first ran for city council and we all know how that worked out.

I’m sorry Mrs. Learnard, but it appears that you can’t be trusted.

P.S. Mudcat, did you have a second in mind?


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Submitted by mudcat on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 6:52am.

Falcon Field can certainly be improved from a management point of view and it looks like that is happening. Kim (or anyone else) on council has limited input into that whole process. They exist as a completely different entity from the city.

Can't open the link to the letter you reference, but I doubt it is earthshaking to the point that I would abandon my support of Kim. My all female voting scenario remains intact.


Submitted by Dondol on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 9:11am.

If your voting for them just because their female, your no better than the Blacks of this country voting for Obama because he is black. Stupid is as Stupid does!

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Submitted by Hoosier Fan on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 8:00am.

Despite my recent posts on this topic, I have not yet made a final decision regarding my vote for Ms Learnard. I have simply been wanting clarification from the candidate herself regarding her CURRENT stand on 54 West.

I think many residents - particularly those in Cardiff Park and Plantera Ridge - felt they were dealing with CCD in good faith regarding the Line Creek development. I want to believe Ms Learnards July 2008 letter reflects that good faith. However, I believe the residents were deceived. Worse, I believe Plunkett, Boone, and Logsdon were either too naive or too "in the pocket" of the developer to do what was right for the future of PTC. I personally will not reward Plunkett and Boone by voting for them in this election - and I will encourage as many as possible to do likewise. In particular, I believe Ms Plunkett is more interested in building her political resume than building our community for the future.

Haddix, Pullias, and Fleisch have earned my votes. My Post 3 vote depends on if/how Learnard responds to these questions regarding 54 West.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 10/22/2009 - 7:33am.

"Applications are now being accepted for volunteers to serve on the Airport Authority. Mayo and Council appoint members serve five year terms."

It really says "Mayo" in the cities WEB page.

As the “Mayo” and Council can determine who’s on the Airport Authority and the amount of hotel/motel tax money the Airport Authority receives, I would say that they have a great deal of input.

How the “Mayo” and Council decide to exercise that input is the question.

As for the dead link, scroll up to the top of this page.


Submitted by citizenal on Mon, 10/19/2009 - 3:48pm.

Mr Dyer and Mrs. Learnard are not convinced that Big Box developments are bad for PTC. They say they are against them in principle BUT... Those of us who know Mr. McMurrin of CCD know he is too smart to let that prime real estate go to a gas station. He knows how to bribe and blackmail his way into dollars in his pocket. We need council members who know how to fight for us. Of course it is going to be commercial. Worst case was that it was going to be the most elegant gas station in the Metro area - that is until Boone, Logsdon and Plunkett sold us out.

Vote NO to Dyer and Learnard!

Submitted by Doug on Mon, 10/19/2009 - 12:23pm.

My God, is everything irrelevant? You wanted the developer to get the special use permit? Do you care about the current vacancies and the traffic?

You lost my vote!

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Submitted by Hoosier Fan on Mon, 10/19/2009 - 12:41pm.

Please note that Ms Learnard's above comments are dated July 2008 - well before she declared her candidacy for City Council. There has been much additional Council compromise with CCD since this July 2008 post.

Before I go to the polls, I want to know if she still supports the CCD development or were the additional compromises the "straw that broke the camel's back?" If Ms Learnard does get elected to City Council, what actions would she attempt to make in relation to 54 West overall and the CCD development in particular?

Thus far, I've been pretty impressed with her campaign stands, but her letter above could be a decision changer for me depending on her response to these posts.


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Submitted by Hoosier Fan on Tue, 10/20/2009 - 8:55am.

Regarding your current stand on 54 West...


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Submitted by Hoosier Fan on Wed, 10/21/2009 - 12:48pm.

Regarding your seemingly conflicting stands on 54 West...


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Submitted by Hoosier Fan on Mon, 10/19/2009 - 10:55am.

The above statement seems inconsistent with your recent campaign stands.

What is your current opinion of the CCD development on West 54? Are you still in favor of this project after the additional compromises made by Logdon, Boone, and Plunkett?


Submitted by PTCGOIL on Mon, 10/19/2009 - 1:48pm.

Please clarify whether you stand by the above post. Your support of Ms. Plunkett is a vote changer. I have also listened to you support the light rail concept into PTC. The more I have listened to your smooth VERY prepared spiel over the last 2 weeks, the more you have distanced yourself from what we are about here.

You are presenting yourself to be in the Logsdon, Plunkett, Boone mold and unless you have been hiding under a rock, you HAVE to realize you do NOT have our best interests at heart. What a shame.

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Submitted by della on Mon, 10/19/2009 - 2:02pm.

I agree PTCGoil. She seems to speak well but her message has clearly come out in the open now. We don't need more of what she has to offer. Whereas Walsh's message is right on target. Since both are unknowns, and Boone clearly has no chance, I'm going with Walsh.


Submitted by Doug on Mon, 10/19/2009 - 12:25pm.

Why was she favor of the rotten deal in the first place?

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 10:54am.

”Orientation of the buildings, layout and flow of parking lots, and “plaza” type design make it pleasing to the eye. It includes a raised, landscaped buffer on the Cardiff Park side, a buffer on Planterra Way, and a golf cart path for access from Planterra Ridge. It minimizes light pollution, nighttime activities, and industrial noise. It allows for future traffic control with an easement to Huddleston Road.”

All of these things are great! By the way all of these things are already addressed as MANDITORY in the “54 West Overlay District”. So in essence, the developer is “giving” us nothing but what he is already required to give us.

”The developer has also agreed in writing to 27 (I think) restrictions on the type of stores that can go in, including: no tattoo parlors, automotive parts stores, kennels, pawn shops, or dozens of others. The developer has also agreed to $200,000 worth of landscaped medians. There is much, much more. In fact, the majority of the long list of items Councilwoman Plunkett has requested to improve aesthetics and reduce impact has been granted.”

It’s comforting to know that a developer can bribe the city council with a bunch of garbage that is already covered in city ordinances.

”Finally, Councilwoman Plunkett, knowing she is the swing vote, asked for the moon from the developer, and got it.”

Councilwoman Plunkett sold her sole to the devil on this one.

If you or anyone else thinks that another traffic light on Hwy. 54 is a good idea, you need to make an appointment with your shrink.

After all is said and done, we would have been better off retaining the ownership of the two roads and getting a Hooters.

Additionally, gas stations pay taxes too. Seeing how most of the traffic heading east on Hwy. 54 in the morning is from Coweta County, heading towards Atlanta, it would have been a nice little profit center for PTC at no additional cost.


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Submitted by Mike King on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 10:13am.

Irregardless of the amount of lipstick or make-up you use-a pig is still a pig!


Submitted by MYTMITE on Wed, 07/16/2008 - 7:49am.

So that is no selling point. Promises from a developer mean nothing as have been proven in the past. Even in this situation, the developer has agreed to certain things to gain something, then after having his wishes granted, came back and said conditions made it impossible to do as promised. We have no idea what is going to go in there and probably won't until the construction starts. Whole Foods has already indicated that PTC does not fit its demographics, though it would be great to have one here. Chains are closing stores everywhere. We have a big box go in and in several months/years we have an empty space. I have recently learned that the Belk's in Newnan is closing and moving to the Ashley Square location. Already they consider the original Belk's an "old" store. What happens when a Kohl's, K-Mart etc, goes in there and decides to pull out? Then we will have the developer putting in something even less desirable because after all we couldn't expect him to lose money with empty spaces or we are left with an empty store, and eyesore. We need to keep more control over what is happening in PTC. Sorry, but your post sounds very much like someone associated with the developer.

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