Wow…what a user name! I bet you own a pair of overalls and a flannel shirt to go with it! How appropriate too… since it describes the contents of the thoughts that your “brain”, or lack thereof, produces. Jealous much?? Because it sounds as though good ole fashioned green-eyed envy has manipulated your thoughts and opinions of Hannah.

In response to your statement that “the patrol division is too busy preventing crime and serving the public”. What exactly is it that you do during your daily/nightly shift? Are you checking and logging your local businesses? Or, if you are a “supervisor”, are your subordinates fulfilling this civic duty and job requirement? Or perhaps you aren’t performing this task, but instead are too busy calling in every tag number in your sight? If the Patrol Division would perform their assigned daily tasks, perhaps the Traffic Division wouldn’t be working “voluntary mandatory” overtime on a nightly basis in an effort to ensure that future burglaries do not occur on the north end of the county. Furthermore, if Patrol Officers would get busy “patrolling” and checking their businesses, the Traffic Division wouldn’t be performing these ever so important duties, once again picking up the slack of the non-motivated Patrol Officers of the FCSO. BTW, Grits…maybe you can answer a burning question for me. How can the patrol units catch a perpetrator stealing air conditioning units from a church parking lot when they are too busy pulling over older model cars with tag light violations, occupied four (4) times?

I have taken the time to read several of your posted comments reflecting your negative views of the Traffic Enforcement Division. While I could possibly be overanalyzing your uneducated comments containing apparent jealousy driven undertones, they would lead one to believe that your desire is to ultimately be a part of such a rewarding team!! And let’s not forget your obvious coveting of the essential items that are budgeted for the Traffic Division. Perhaps the next time there is an opening, you should welcome the opportunity to apply. Just remember, when that opportunity presents itself, traffic units are expected to be proactive, not reactive. Maybe then your lunch won’t be interrupted either. 

When it comes to the election for Sheriff, the safety of the citizens and future of Fayette County should be your foremost concern. My advice to you is to quit being so consumed with yourself and focus on what is in the best interest of the community that you have sworn to protect and serve.

P.S. If you have difficulty understanding the vocabulary within this statement, try reading a John Deere manual…the one without the pop-up pictures!

R U smiling yet?? I am…and still will be when Hannah becomes Sheriff!

Woodie?

I'm suprised you know anything about the North end....since your division spends most of its time in the South end writing tickets to soccer moms. I didn't know Wayne allowed you to go north of the city limits...except for lunch of course...

For your information I happen to like and get along with the majority of the traffic units. However, I feel like it is a waste of manpower.
You wouldn't of course....since you only have to come out at night when you're on call or "volunteer" as you say to work in the North end to prevent future burglaries...we all know its for the money....or maybe a road trip to see what the North end looks like.

The safety of the citizens of the County is my main concern....thats why I want a candidate who will put deputies to work for them....not writing tickets for no seatbelt (in the South end of course....check your stats).

BTW, I do own a pair of overalls....and a John Deere....

Oh, jealous of you? Not a chance....I don't need an "I love me" wall to feel important....

YEEHAWWWWWWWWWW!

To openly state that you believe me to be Woodie! I do appreciate the compliment, but you are not even close, my friend! Just how cold is it in the Antarctic Ocean?

Now…if you read and comprehended my previous blog, you would be well aware that I never stated that you are jealous of Woodie, or any one individual for that matter ( I do sincerely apologize for your confusion). However, I do believe that you are jealous of the Traffic Enforcement Division. Be it what they have (newer model cars, accessories, the tools that they are provided in order for them to perform their duties effectively, clothing allowances that they can actually utilize, etc.) Or you could be jealous of what their primary responsibilities are or aren’t, how the division is managed, etc. Take the time to re-read my comment and pay special attention to the statement that I made about you joining the division at the next available opportunity. Maybe the reason why you assumed that I am Woodie and misunderstood me to believe that you are jealous of him is because you too are a ranked officer or is it your mission to become one within the next six (6) months? After all…you are supporting a man who has openly made promises to several individuals. Is it possible that you are one of them? If that is true, and I was being made such a promise, I wouldn’t “count my chickens before they hatch!” I have no respect for politicians that make hollow promises out of desperation! I believe that Hannah is an honest man who wouldn’t compromise his values for anyone or anything!

And how dare you downplay the seriousness of not wearing a seatbelt!! You should be ashamed to call yourself a law enforcement officer! Would you place your own child in a motor vehicle without restraining them in a seatbelt? Yes, it is true that a seatbelt violation is not an income generating fine. In fact, it is a mere $15 citation. Perhaps you would prefer that the traffic units sit idle or waste county gas aimlessly driving, waiting to back you up on the next alarm call that is dispatched? I would disagree with that whole heartedly! The message is clear and simple…seatbelts save lives! Please refer back to the comment posted by GiveMeABreak 4507 if you are still unclear on this fact!

As for your comment on the Traffic Enforcement Division being a “waste of manpower…” I won’t risk the possibility of developing arthritis by responding to such a ludicrous statement. GiveMeABreak4507 has already done a fantastic job of clarifying that for you, or at least one would hope he has.

As for your desire to be a part of a department that is a teamwork environment without division lines… TRY LEADING BY EXAMPLE!

the big words that threw me off.....I thought only Woodie talked like that. I've checked my John Deeere manual.....(Duh!)

Touchy, touchy; Not down playing the importance of seatbelts....I hate to see children in a vehicle not restrained. Just pointing out that our priorities are different....

Don't worry, nobody's coming to take your ticket book...

Said to break your heart...ujustgotburned is not Woodie, but I bet he likes what he said!

By the way, I'm glad you get along with the majority of the Traffic Units; they get along with the majority of uniform folks.

No, I don't feel like it is a waste of manpower, and sadly, for you, your opinion isn't the one that counts. The fact that you feel it’s a waste of manpower tells me all I need to know.

The most significant difference between your hero Barry (who's thought processes you evidently mirror), and the next Sheriff of Fayette County, Wayne Hannah, is that he (and I happen to agree) believes every position at the Sheriff's Office is important. Now, before you pop a blood vessel, allow me to explain.

Most Journeymen law enforcement officers have a tendency to feel that their job is the most important and all else is secondary. This is particularly the case with patrol officers. Now, I'll grant you that a patrol officer is front line to be sure, but other positions are important as well. They are interdependent in that they rely on other doing their job to let them do theirs.

Permit me to present simply one example. You seem to see Woodie behind every tree, let’s use him in this example. You as the front line patrolman, standing in the gap between crime and the good people of Fayette County, would not be standing there to do your job, if it weren't for him.

Ridiculous you say... Hardly, because, if it were not for administrators like him, you wouldn't have a car to drive, gas for one if you did, or a gun to use if you had to. So, see, in just this one example we see that an administrator is as important as the patrolman, because it is the administrator who provides the means and the tools for the patrolman to do their job.

I feel like I've just wasted my breath. Like you, Barry has such a narrow focus, and exceedingly strong case of ethnocentrism, that neither of you see the big picture.

The most difficult task of being Sheriff is being able to see the big picture and make judgments on priorities across the board and just not one area.

Interesting you would say the safety of the citizens is your main concern. I would argue that the Traffic Enforcement Division has that as their highest priority. Why that, and not catching burglary perpetrators, you ask? Well, the traffic folks want to catch burglars as much as you do. So why is it a problem that they are volunteering to come out and help you? Woodie is there because he wants to help; I don’t see any of your command staff out there. Another reason is that they know that you are out there doing yours.

All this talk of burglaries is serious business to be sure, but you know what you’re more likely to be the victim of than ANY other crime? A car crash, yes that right, a car crash. Last year we investigated 1,622 car crashes, and unfortunately 5 deaths. Last year, there were 154 burglaries. We both have our jobs to do.

How many fatal car crashes have you been to? Well for me, about 160 since I came to the Sheriff's Office. Do you know how many of those people were wearing their seatbelt? 3. Maybe the seatbelt ticket we write today will be the one that saves a life tomorrow. So, after making more than 150 death notifications in my career, I could give a rat’s rear end about how you feel about seatbelt tickets.

Yeah, I know the stats inside and out. If you work at the Sheriff's Office, I know yours too. I see them all the time. Yes, I know where we write tickets, you my friend haven't a clue.

Woodie could care less if you were jealous of him. Have you ever been in his office, I have? A love me wall? Lets see, he has a picture of the Georgia Peace Officer Memorial at GPSTC, a framed poster about the value of Teamwork, a picture of himself and a little boy who visited the Sheriff's Office and who I understand from Woodie has a fatal kidney disease, a picture of his Granddaughter, and a Framed Quote from someone that says "“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

You want to know something else that is pretty important to him? On his dry erase board, which he looks directly at while working at his desk, he wrote "Make time every day to tell the guys how much you appreciate them.”

Cya.

Since you are both inside the SO, and work for 2 different divisions I would like an insiders perspective.

In the past Fayette County has used all of the drug money confiscated from criminals very wisely. What do we need this year?

We have the helicopter and the mobile SWAT command center. What is the next step in fighting crime?

I know we have equipment to help enhance and get evidence from security cameras, how much do we need to rely on the GBI for help with forensic evidence? What could we use to speed up the investigation process without relying on an outside source for help?

Kick Sum Butt!
Good Job Man.

I guess you eat your grits plain?

Or you don’t like grits?

I don’t like grits myself

he has never hindered Wayne Hannah in the performance of his duties.

Is it not true that Hannah has been attempting to rewrite the SOPs in an attempt to make the department accredited? Hannah wants the department to be accredited like PCPD & TPD, and was attempting to do it behind the Sheriff's back. Johnson found out and said the dept would never be accredited while he was still Sheriff. If elected, Hannah will be free to continue to pursue accreditation. Once accredited, Hannah will not have the ultimate say-so about policies, as the Collegiate will say "You have to do it our way to keep your accreditation." There will have to be paper work for the paper work. Where do you want your officers? Patrolling or writing more reports?

The restructuring that Babb has mentioned is more about getting rid of dead weight or moving units around so that they are more effectively used in preventing crime in the county. While he may be "2nd" in command of patrol division, he is still limited by what the Sheriff will allow. Unlike Hannah, he doesn't need to chart and graph and over-study the situation. Everyone knows what the issues are, and where. The best course of action is ACTION not contemplation of action. Crime is a 24 hour a day problem, and needs a strong 24 hour a day response.

How come it is just until recently that traffic units have not been able to work traffic complaints and have not been allowed to work north of hwy 54? This is a new policy in just the past few weeks. Is it a political ploy that Hannah is using, trying to garner more north Fayette votes here at election time?

GiveMeABreak (Woodie?) mentioned in one of his posts (this one? another? I lose track!) that there are 4 detectives working a special detail at the very time he was writing. Why would he want to put that information out there for the criminals to know, thereby potentially putting our officers in danger? I'm sure he would have been outraged if someone else had done the same thing.

There's been talk about the good ol' boy system at the department. Have no doubt that it is in place at the uppermost levels (though not all are involved, thank goodness). Of the 3 candidates running who are from the department, only 2 are looking to move away from that. Hannah is not one of them.

You know, I realize that there are different supporters of different candidates for Sheriff blogging here. Most of the bloggers online don't work at the Sheriff's Office so I guess to them it’s like watching the Jerry Springer Show about "When families Cat Fight!" I blog to provide a different perspective to those who are forming their opinions about us. Remember how ugly things got in Peachtree City after Chief Murray left? Sigh... I guess it’s our time in the box now.

No, it is not true that Lt. Colonel Hannah was attempting to re-write department policy in an attempt to get accredited or that he is seeking to get accredited. It is true that Lt. Colonel Hannah, Lt. Colonel Jones, Major Glaze, Major Nations, and Captain Hattaway were reviewing policies on a regular basis; they have been doing that for years...this is not a new thing.

Again you are right, Sheriff Johnson came into the room one day and CLEARLY stated his position that the Sheriff's Office was not going to be accredited. Yes, he was upset and yes, he had a right to be so, but not for the reason you state. It seems that one of the 5 (only one mind you) genuinely thought they were working on accreditation and conveyed that to the Sheriff. Its also true, that the same one that thought they were working on accreditation often misunderstands what is being said in the room. You know what? That wasn't the first time the Sheriff has been given bad information. But hey, that's water under the bridge now. Everybody’s back on an even keel.

Wayne wants patrols out on the street and in the office less. He'll get that done.

Now, oh you are getting into dangerous waters. Barry is 2nd in command but the Sheriff limits him in what he can do you say. Please, tell us how Barry is (or was) being limited by the Sheriff? I hope you realize that while the Sheriff doesn't read these blogs, other people do and the information makes it to the Boss.

Now if you were Barry that would be one thing, but I don't think you are because he would never write what you just wrote. You aren't helping him. But, now let’s agree to accept that Wayne has primarily been looking out for traffic issues for the time being, do you think that traffic would be where it is at if the Sheriff didn't think traffic was necessary? You do work with us don't you?

You are right, crime is a 24 hour a day job, and demands a strong 24 hour a day presence. Thanks for putting that in there...glad we are all doing that!

Now see this next point of yours is my goat. (If you don't want to let someone get your goat, don't tell them where you keep your goat!) Any suggestions that there are restrictions on where Traffic Units work is, well, Horse Dung. The sad part is you know it is but said it anyway. The Truth is Traffic works where they want to.

You know what; I'd love criminals to think that we had 16 detectives out working a special detail all the time. I didn't say anything that in any way would increase the probability of criminal activity. Maybe you have more street experience than me; I for one have never heard of or seen a criminal checking blogs for tips on law enforcement activity as they were out looking for a place to break the law. But to be fair, you should be upset if I had given specific details such as descriptions, names, locations, or even what they were doing.

You mentioned good old boy system and state that Wayne is the only one looking to not get away from it. If the truth is within you, please list just even one example whereby Wayne has exhibited a tendency that can be characterized as "Good Old Boy" methodology. Rest assured, I can list more than one for the other two.

You know something Needtoknow, although I don't know who you are, I'm pretty confident I know you. It doesn't matter what anyone who reads this thinks, we both know who is telling the truth, and in the end, isn't that what really matters?

Good night.

Patrol. patrol, patrol! Guessing where the crime will be next from the past! Dumb.

Robbers see patrols all of the time. They just wait until you leave the area!

Arresting BEFORE a crime is committed is the real way to go.
If you don't know how to do that, then we need to hire an expert who does!

Political electees do not work well.

Sageadvice,

I've seen your name from time to time because it sort of catchy. I'm not really sure what your take is on things but okay.

I'm curious, I've been in law enforcement for a little more than 30 years total, I've not heard of any code sections that permit us to arrest people before they commit a crime.

Now, I have arrested one or two people before. I've even had a class or two, or three, or four on crime analysis. But, well never mind, I just can't figure out how to answer this one.

Good luck to ya!

Like I said originally, if you don't know how to prevent crime rather than wait around for it all to happen, then we need someone who does!

I started to list a few ways but the more I say the more you will find the one you can criticize, so I'll just tell you one:
If you see several "suspicious" jokers gathering in a hangout, go right among them every time, ask about their assembly permit, ask for identification, smell them, then run them off!
They will get tired of that.

Now, you are going to tell me that you can't do that, aren't you?
It is done many places all of the time but you have to be smart about it and backed by the boss!

Call 770-461-6353 and ask for Lt. McCastle. Inquire with her about a Patrol Observation waiver, how to get it and complete it. Then arrange through her to come out one night and see for your self.

See ya.

Just when we think you have reached the epitome of foolishness you come up with something even more ridiculous. So, now we arrest people before they commit the crime. I can just see that trial. When they question the arresting officer as to his reason for the arrest, he can state that he read the defendant's mind and saw that he intended to commit a crime. If that was the case, we would probably all be serving time!

Do you stay up late at night coming up with these ideas? If so, I would suggest you lay off the caffeine, take a warm soothing bath, drink a cup of warm milk, put on your soft footed jammies, hop in bed and dream of cute little bunnies cavorting in a field of flowers and then you might wake up with a clearer head.

"arrest them before a crime is committed"??

With good ideas like that you and victor hill would be a dream team for attracting lawsuits.

You should re-read Exodus 20:16....you sre soooooo misleading these people.

"Wayne didn’t create his position, Sheriff Johnson did..." It was Wayne's brain child and his baby...the Sheriff probably just got tired of him asking.

Hannah had a chance to command the patrol division and didn't...now he wants to be Sheriff?

You're right, Hannah will study every minute detail...micromanage...map it out...chart and graph...and then he MAY be able to make a decision.

Sounds like you got all the answers...applying for Cheif Deputy?

My 1st draft of a response to your post, upon reflection was that which a smart aleck would write; I didn't intend it to be that way, and although you didn't see it, I apologize.

I suspect you work at the Sheriff's Office and the fact that you chose to remain anonymous is fine by me. Don't misunderstand; it doesn't bother me that you support another candidate for Sheriff other than Wayne. For that matter, it doesn't matter to Wayne that you do either.

I don't know how long you have worked with us, but your comments date you and it’s apparent to anyone who has been working at the Sheriff's Office for more than 10 years that you haven't been, and again, that’s ok.

See, I've have been at the Sheriff's Office since 1985. There were 21 of us then and I started as a Jailer. In 1986, the Chief Deputy assigned me to the Uniform Patrol Division which was commanded by Captain Wayne Hannah. He continued to command the Uniform Patrol Division until 1988 when Sheriff Johnson and the Chief Deputy parted ways.

By 1988, Sheriff Johnson had become VERY tired of the long response and lackadaisical attitude of the Georgia State Patrol who was then working our crashes. The Sheriff, and yes Captain Wayne Hannah, thought of several solutions and the Sheriff decided to create the Traffic Enforcement Division and other divisions that exist today.

As a side note, do you know Tim White and Tony Janney? Those two went to Captain Hannah with the idea for creating a SWAT Team. He liked the idea, researched it along with Tim and Tony, and Captain Hannah sold the Sheriff on that idea as well.

I get it that you don't care for me, there have been a couple of people I haven't cared for to, and such is life. But I do know one thing; you haven't worked for Lt. Colonel Hannah.

Micromanagement, no, that’s not the case. Now I would encourage you to talk privately with any of the guys and ask them how it is to work in the Traffic Enforcement Division. Come to work on time, work your wrecks, follow up on complaints, and they don't hear from us.

Now I don't want to be ugly, and I hope you don't take it that way. Lt. Colonel Hannah is a planner, he does take note of the details, and believe me, and he knows how to make a decision.

Very quickly, by way of comparing and contrasting, the Traffic Enforcement Command Staff planning model and the Field Operations Division planning model differ widely.

In 1998, the Board of Commissioners discussed building a new Courthouse and Jail. Each division was charged with planning for its spatial needs for the new facilities. Lt. Colonel Hannah and his command staff took that charge seriously.

Every Division got every inch of space it planned and asked for--no one was denied anything in the new building. Look at the facilities used by the Traffic Enforcement Division and Uniform Patrol. Better planning on the part of Lt. Colonel Hannah? Yes.

More recently, actually since we have been moved into the new facilities to be exact, Lt. Colonel Hannah has continued to serve as Director of Field Operations and Captain Babb has served as the second in command for the Field Operations Division.

When was the last time the Traffic Enforcement Division ran out of uniform allowances? Never happened. Field Operations Division? You tell me.

When was the last time the Traffic Enforcement Division ran out of overtime funds? Never happened. Field Operations Division? You tell me.

When was the last time the Traffic Enforcement Division failed to have even a single piece of equipment its team members need to do their job? Never happened? Field Operations Division? You tell me.

When was the last time the Traffic Enforcement Division had a patrol vehicle with more than 100,000 miles on it? Dog gone it! You got me there; the one we just replaced had 103,000 miles on it. But, we did get it replaced and in service in fewer than 30 days. In fact, the replacement was approved by the Board of Commissioners, picked up from the dealership, decaled, equipped, and placed in service in 8 days. How long does it take the Field Operations Division to request, get approval, receive decal, equip and put into service a patrol vehicle? You tell me.

I could go on and on and on but it would be unfair. I guess its easy to belittle Lt. Colonel Hannah, you've got that right. The disparity in morale, facilities, and equipment is a reflection of the two management styles of Lt. Colonel Hannah and Captain Babb. You see, with Lt. Colonel Hannah as Sheriff, you would enjoy the same level of equipment and facilities at our folks do.

Now, before I go, please let me be clear, because I don't think that Barry is the best choice for Sheriff doesn't mean that I don't think he is not a good law enforcement officer, I don't and he is. I just don't think he's Sheriff Material yet just like you don't think Wayne is.

Maybe we can just agree to disagree and yes it is possible to disagree and not be disagreeable.

Listen Grits, there are lots of great people in the Uniform Patrol Division and more than one of who I would love to have join our team, but we're full. I don't want to be Chief Deputy, Director of Field Operations, or Director of Criminal Investigations. I want to stay where I am at, and do what I enjoy. If I could have one wish come true (besides this damn election being over) it would be that your division provide for you and treat you like we treat our own.

Good luck to you, may the best man win, and maybe one day we can sit down, have a conversation, come to an understanding, or if not, maybe a truce. But until then, stay safe, and unlike me, stay under the radar.

p.s. Did you see the Sith Army sign on our door? Who says we don't have a sense of humor!

yourself or everyone else?

I must make a confession....I didn't read your enitre post so I probably won't answer each point....I've read your autobiography before, so I didn't feel the need to read it again. I just wanted you know before I continue so you don't think I'm avoiding any topic you mentioned.

I do want to tell you that what I don't like about your candidate basically is what you're doing here in this blog. I can agree to disagree with you and not be "disagreeable" as you say, but I just don't understand the arrogance displayed by you and others (though not all) in the Traffic Unit. Why does it have to be about what you've done for your division...or the awards...or the pictures? I hate that we have become separated along "divisional" lines and not a department anymore. I'm for teamwork....what we can do for each other and the citizens of this county who do not know nor care what division each of us are in. What you are blaming Barry for is mostly due to budget constraints and because of the commissioners and that's not fair. Besides, Barry was not the Division Director as Lt Col Hannah was. Why do you brag about what you do for your people instead of asking how you can make the place as a whole better? Why do you point out the things that your people get that the patrol division doesn't with a "na nanna boo boo, mine's better that yours" attitude instead of realizing that there's something wrong with that? I do get it, the deputies in Traffic enjoy getting everything you ask for. They enjoy the luxury of waiting for something to happen (wreck, traffic complaint) instead of answering calls for service. Good for them...but there is so much wasted talent there. I'm certainly not against any of them (or jealous of them as another blogger accused me of). I am for using every bit of manpower and talent that is available at the DEPARTMENT to serve the citizens we swore to protect when we all pinned on the badge and took an oath. I don't believe any one chose this line of work to try to see how many awards they could get or to make it a competition about equipment and vehicles. It is a thankless job and the last thing we should be doing is working against each other. Wayne lives and breathes the Traffic Division (as do you) and I just don't believe he'll let that go and look out for the "little guys." This is main reason I'm for Babb, because he has been in the positions most of us have been in and knows first hand that we need to work together....that's the way it used to be.

Another confession.... it's not that I'm 100% against Hannah....part of it is the top level management that he will most probably keep; making the divisional separation something alot of us can no longer work with.

I also hope the best man wins...and I hope the changes that need to be made are finally made, not only for us but for those that we serve.

Because I read something that you said that I agreed with. I'm pretty tired of the inter-divisional separation.

You think Barry is a stand up guy? Do me a favor. Go to one of those sites like yahoo.com or hotmail.com and create yourself an alternate email address. Write that email address on a piece of paper and seal it in an envelope with Woodie's name on it. Go to the mail room and slip it under the door so that on Monday, or whenever, the operator will put it in his mail box.

He will e-mail you a single question for you to take to Barry to answer. After you ask him the question, blog here and simply say, Okay I did it. Nothing else. The next thing you will get to that e-mail address will be what the answer was and how you can verify it for your self.

This way, only three people will be involved you, Barry and Woodie. After you verify what the answer was, or should have been, then let me know if your opinion stands.

I hate it.

There are things in Hannah's past you probably wouldn't like and maybe even something that would make you change your mind.

I get it.....you don't like Barry and you'll do anything for Wayne. That's admirable.

Thanks, but no....I'm not looking to change my mind.

tell us what kind of skeletons are in the closet on Hannah? As voters we have the right to know before election as to who to vote for. Give me something that will change my mind. You put it out there so what do you have on Hannah?

that we all have things in our past that we regret, wish we could forget, and hope that no one ever brings out. Does it mean that it would affect someone's ability to hold an elected position? Maybe, maybe not. It's dirty, rotten politics at its best.....innuendos and claims of knowledge of secrets....

I can't in good conscience tell you that anything I know would make you change your mind (if this is who you are considering voting for). Just as nothing givemebreak4507 can tell me to make me change mine.

I truly hope that there is no "mudslinging".....it only serves to hurt the candidate's families.

It wouldn't surprise me though if someone engages in this before this is all over....

Stay tuned..

Well as a matter of fact, I can provide some 10-87 (that’s information for the non-law enforcement types). Based on a review of my own in-car video camera, the initial call seemed to be originating from Pet Smart. That turned out not to be the case, the start of the crime was near Ga 85 and North Jeff Davis Drive.

It was not until about the time that the 1st officers were arriving at the location of the victim, that an accident with injuries call was being dispatched to us that occurred on Pine Trail Road. Without boring you with details, it was apparent that the vehicle crash and robbery were connected and thus set into motion the manhunt.

For me, I was halfway between Peachtree City and Fayetteville when the initial dispatch was made. According to the clock on the video camera in my car, it was 1:57 seconds after the initial call concerning the robbery that the call concerning the accident with injuries was dispatched, and a total of 3:42 seconds from the first dispatch before I arrived at Pine Trail Road, and Georgia Highway 85.

By the time I arrived, I had counted 9 deputies announce they were in the area. Within 9 minutes of the initial call, I could count 18 deputies having announced their arrival in the area and the Bloodhounds were already on the way.

As is often the case in crimes of this nature, initial information was conflicting and after about 20 minutes, we were advised that we were looking for only one subject which turned out to be the one we caught. It was only until some time after the subject was arrested that information developed that a second vehicle and suspect were actually involved.

Now I can only tell you anecdotally that 95 percent of the people who responded were there in less than 10 minutes.

I hope that this will answer some of your questions and I want to emphasize that a great job was done by all!

we were advised that we were looking for only one subject which turned out to be the one we caught. It was only until some time after the subject was arrested that information developed that a second vehicle and suspect were actually involved.

To put it plainly, you are wrong.

The initial dispatch advised that there were TWO subjects. When the accident on Pine Trail occurred, there was only ONE subject seen jumping from the vehicle and running, so it was just simply not known where the 2nd subject was.

The focus was on the subject that WAS known, but those that were getting the info from the victim and giving the info to the officers were always clear that there was a second subject, and based on the responses from the officers, they too knew there was a 2nd subject.

Before the 1st subject was caught, it was also known that the victim's car had been stolen, and it was assumed that it was the second subject who did so. All of that was WELL BEFORE the 1st subject was caught.

I agree that the ALL those involved did an excellent job working together to catch the bad guy. I have full confidence the 2nd guy will also be caught.

calling you out by name? that is just a little f'd up. we'll anyhow i do appreciate your response. i hope you know my headline earlier about 40 deputies was just a joke. i know well that things happen very fast out there and the info available is usually not the best but far from it. when one states that there are only four deputies "on duty" patrolling the county at a given time, they know exactly what they are trying to do. I think most of the public knows better than to believe the picture Babb and Mindar are trying to paint. As long as we are not relying on guys resonding within minutes from their homes on their days off I think we are OK. By the way, you should check the Simmons figures again. What he is saying is true about the burglaries, we just had another residential burglary today-we'll on the 19th. Also, we both know gangs are present in the county; although not to the point to warrant a unit specifically dedicated to them. I say expand and transition the DTF to more of a vice unit like the Clayton County PD has and have them work both drugs, gangs, and others as well.

and those that serve with you!

Regardless of some of the 'garbage' you may read from here, please continue to protect us from those that would do us harm.

If you don't we'll just have to ...

Not going to type it but suffice it to say CCW's, are a good thing.

sageadvice, hummmm

2. Proceeding from or marked by wisdom and calm judgment: sage advice.

I'm guessing here, but I think your pithy comment must be intended tounge in cheek.

Foot patrol is really labor intensive and generally covers a few blocks. Some Fayette County patrol zones are more than 25 square miles. I'd hate to see those response times!

I don't know what a toungue is but I do know why they used to be called flat feet!