Simmons’ signs are being stolen

Tue, 06/17/2008 - 3:46pm
By: Letters to the ...

I have seen different articles in the local Fayette papers about Mr. Simmons saying that he has been having his signs taken down and removed from the area where they were put up. I have also seen different articles in the same papers written by different individuals saying that Mr. Simmons has not had his signs removed and that he is just using that as a ploy to get attention to try and get more votes.

I know this to be 100 percent false, as I have seen evidence of one of his signs taken down on Redwine Road directly across from Hunters Glen at Quail Hollow subdivision.

I had seen his sign up there for several days with no other campaign signs there anywhere. His sign was back from the road so that it was legal where it was. I had to go out one day and left mid-afternoon. His sign was still up. When I got home early evening, his sign was still up. The next morning when I left, his sign was gone, and Wayne Hannah’s sign was up where Dave Simmons’ sign had been the day before. That proves his signs are being taken down.

With his qualifications, I will be voting for Mr. Simmons for sheriff because the rest of the candidates have what I call “good ol’ boy syndrome.” If you don’t tell anybody what’s going on, they won’t find out.

As far as Mr. Johnson bashing Mr. Simmons in what he said, I have always found out through my 65 years that when you come out with the truth about things and hit the nail on the head, other people lash out at the person who told the truth because they don’t want other people to know the truth. As long as people keep the good ol’ boys in charge here, things will never change.

This county has had gangs forming and working together for at least six years at Fayette County High School. Just ask the students. This county had drug problems in the schools starting in middle school at Fayette 11 years ago, if not longer. They also had a big drug problem at Fayette County High at least 11 years ago.

Hide it, ignore it. If nobody knows about it, it might go away in 200 to 300 years. That’s the perfect way to operate.

As far as the Pavilion goes, including the theater, I do not go there to get anything unless I can’t find it anywhere else. I haven’t gone to that theater in years and have no intention of ever going to it again.

What Mr. Simmons says is the truth and people don’t want to hear that. If I do have to go to the Pavilion to get something, I consider myself lucky if I come out and my vehicle is still there and even luckier if it has not been broken into.

I have lived in Fayette County for 24 years, so I have seen all the changes, most of them for the worse. Fayetteville is three to four times the acreage it was. Malls, stores, homes, and traffic are completely out of control.

I’m waiting to see the reaction to this in the paper. Again, I will be voting for Mr. Simmons and if people want to see change in a positive direction, they should vote for him too.

One last thing: how many people in Fayette County know that the police station at the Pavilion is not staffed with police at all? The citizens of Fayette County were told when the Pavilion was being built that a police station would be built and staffed with money from the Pavilion developer. What happened to that?

Robert E. Mitchell

Fayetteville, Ga.

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Submitted by Spyglass on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:33am.

I have never heard so much whining from a Candidate or his supporters. Just another reason NOT to vote for said candidate.

Submitted by kikenbutt on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:51am.

as I drive past this area quite often. This was a Simmons sign placed off the right away. There are many signs there now. At first it was one, then became many. I had not noticed Simmons sign going away, but it is there now, replaced. What's happening is a candidate is replacing his signs for the Simmons signs. That's obvious. There has been a Simmons sign taken away by the Marshall's on private property that was approved by the property owner who witnessed this action I've been told.

Dirty, nasty, 1930's, Good ole' boy politics!

Submitted by NeedtoKnow on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:25am. is because it is violating a county ordinance. They don't have a dog in this fight (except for the commissioner positions), just doing their job.

Submitted by kikenbutt on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 9:46am.

the sign has been approved by the property owner. Not when it is off the right of way, correct?

"They don't have a dog in this fight" a personal friend perhaps?

Submitted by NeedtoKnow on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 10:01am.

The Marshalls don't just go around pulling up signs without reason. Can't tell you how many complaints I've heard from citizens who had their yard sale signs removed, or from businesses saying their multiple "temporary" signs were removed.

Why would you think I'm a personal friend of a Marshall? Can't I just be someone who knows what the job entails, and how our local Marshalls do things? If you have a concern about their actions, why not give them a call? Easy enough. Heck, if it is after office hours, you can still talk to one. They'll come talk to (or call) the property owner personally, if that is what he would like! Then you don't have to wrongly guess as to why the sign was removed.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 7:47pm.

On private property.

Ummm, HEEELLLLLOOOO, this is Fayette County. We hate politicians who can't obey the law. That's the way we roll here.

This is what we know about Simmons:

1) He is completely incapable of obeying even simple county ordinances and the law: ie: which says thou shall not trespass. If he can't obey the laws and ordinances now, what will he do when he has power?

2) He has been retired for over 12yrs. from a city that has just recently been named the crime capitol of America and the worst city to live in by

3) Do a google search of crime stats. for Detroit. Violent crime increased every year that Simmons was alledgedly there. So his little ideas about how he will "solve" our "crime problems" here apparently don't work, and they have never worked, look at Detroit.
If we were dealing with a candidate who could produce stat.s that prove crime was reduced under his managment it would be nice, but this.........

4) The Detroit PD has the dubious honor of being investigated by the U.S. Justice Dept. and the FBI as often as LA, and NYC PD. Not good, no matter how you try to turn it around.

They have been investigated for embezzeling drug funds to beating up suspects, to holding people for days for questioning without evidence or a court order. They have been involved in a hiring/promotion scandal where EX-chief Mckinnon gave test answers to the black candidates only. Cops were forced to sell tickects for a crooked mayor's campaign or be fired. They were also forced to protect the same mayors niece as she ran around with a notorious drug dealer. You can buy McKinnons book online for 1 penny from, that's right one penny. He brags about what he and Simmons did together in Detroit. Tom1939 is right they are partners in crime. Go to the U.S. Justice Depts. website and see all of the things that cops in Detroit were involved in. Don't take my word for it. No wonder he took this losers letter of endorcement off of his website.

I will leave you with an analogy that really sums up this situation.

We have a candidate who is trying desperately to distance himself from his checkered work history. He was never one of the cops indicted over the years that he worked at Detroit PD. That is true. He never got caught.

Here is my analogy:

Have you ever driven by a farmers field and seen a herd of pigs in the middle of that field? Have you ever seen one pig that was squeaky clean, pristine?
Have you?

Because I have not.

When you roll around in the mud with pigs in a muddy field, .....everyone gets dirty!

My point is when you have a police dept. where corruption and white collar crime is the norm, and a daily occurence, no one is innocent.

If you are going to live in Fayette County obey the law.!!

Submitted by KCW56 on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 10:09pm.

get a grip. Here is your true intention...

submitted by skyspy on Sun, 01/27/2008 - 8:19pm.
“The average citizen in the county knows the Sheriff's race is really between Hannah and Babb. It will be hard to choose. They both have great reputations.” I believe you even stated somewhere in your comments that you will wait for Sheriff Johnson’s endorsement.

Get off of it Sky. You have your reasons and you really, really need to calm down about Simmons. If indeed you truly believe that Hannah or Babb will win, why don’t you give us un-averaged FC citzens more information about Hannah and Babb's reputation? Why do you always attack Simmons if in your mind he doesn't have a chance? I think most of us are getting it about you.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 7:31am.

When I see signs placed illegally it makes my decision very easy at the polls. Thanks to all of the Ballard, Simmons and Williams volunteers for making my decision soooo easy.

Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:10am.

I had hoped we could get by this election without all of the sign crap discussions!
I guess not.
There are always a few who feel that only THEY should be able to stick up signs. Temporary signs are illegal anyway, on private property or not, with or without permission.
If you vote for someone about signs only and not about race, then you don't have very high standards!

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:28am.

People who can't obey even the simplest of ordinances have a serious character flaw. It demonstrates a lack of moral values, and weak personal code of ethics. They think they are better than everyone else, and that the laws are only for the "little people".

I don't like politicians with obvious character flaws.

Submitted by justcurious on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 1:37pm.

Again - how I wish I could be the one to tell you of the lack of any morality of many of our county's "finest"!!! You have got to be living with your head in the sand! Do you not know that there have been defendants arrested in this county for drug possession that have simply had their charges dropped during the last 6 months? Seems at least one good old boy thinks it's okay if he signs certain legal documents, not with his name, but with a local judge's name. It took one defense attorney to discover this and so far, to my knowledge, his client is the only one who has benefited from this discovery so far. I believe that good old boy is still out protecting our streets - when he, himself, should be behind bars.

So - before you go pointing fingers at a newcomer, basing your opinion from your own research, why don't you do some detective work with the law enforcement right here in our own county? Maybe then you'll cut him some slack. He is qualified and he has some good plans for our county - plans that I hope will keep us from becoming like the big city he came from. I have a strong feeling that his former city would be the way it is right now - regardless of who is in charge of their police force. I mean, my family lives in a more rural, but up and coming county in Georgia and they wouldn't live in Fayette County if you paid them to because of all of the crime! It's a thing called perspective - maybe you can gain some.

Submitted by KCW56 on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:10pm.

Sky who is loosing credibility fast BTW and also seems to enjoy the fireside Simmon chats with a big snake in the grass. Sky has stated before, wants Hannah or Babb in. Yet, doesn't comment other that they are trained under Sheriff Johnson. Its a mentality you can't break.

Submitted by susieq on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 7:54pm.

The custom here is to call a candidate if you want a sign on your property. The candidate will have one delivered, or you can pick it up.

The best way to get a Simmons sign down is to call the property owner and say, "I see you're supporting Simmons." The owner will take the sign down and call the person he's voting for and request a sign so there will be no doubt in his neighbors' minds.

Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 8:11am.

What is a "custom?" A law, maybe.
Two water fountains maybe? Two toilets for each sex maybe?
Balcony only maybe?

Submitted by thenatural on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 9:29pm.

That Wingo put up in the cemetary on Westbridge? How about all these signs put up by several offenders on abandoned property all over the county?

We agree that signs should be put up only with permission. I say again, everybody is guilty of violating the rules, not just Simmons and it should stop.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 11:52am.

Is there a nice home behind this cemetary? Maybe the homeowner likes Wingo. Smiling
That's the only cemetary I'm aware of on Westbridge.

Submitted by thenatural on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:22pm.

I guess you need to take a ride out to Westbridge. The cemetary is across the street from a very small white frame church. The cemetary is on the corner of Westbridge and I believe a gravel road. The sign is on that corner. There is not a house for a quarter of a mile.

You sure are spending a lot of time an effort justifying the unjustifiable.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 4:08pm.

Are we talking about the same Westbridge, the one in North Fayette, off of 138? I need to know since I'm going to check it out.

Thanks Smiling

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:36pm.

Ok Smiling

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:28pm.

Tug typed maybe two whole sentences, how much effort can that take? Get a grip, I think your hat is too tight.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:42pm.


Submitted by thenatural on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:35pm.

Your right. Between tug and susie etc. there has been a lot of discussion about what I simply believe is something done in poor taste. I do not wear a hat.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 3:40pm.

Tug posted one time, in no way would that constitute a lot of discussion, you still need to get a grip.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Submitted by NeedtoKnow on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 12:16am.

We agree that signs should be put up only with permission. I say again, everybody is guilty of violating the rules, not just Simmons and it should stop.

Many are, but I don't believe everybody is. I'm pretty sure that Babb is being more careful than not about where his signs are placed.

Can't say the same for Dunn or Frady, as I just removed their signs from a piece of my property.

Submitted by susieq on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 12:00am.

Does this mean you're not voting for Wingo? Maybe he owns the cemetery plot.

Where is this abandoned property? All property here is owned by somebody or some company. Just because you see a field with no house does not mean the property is abandoned. You're not from around here, are you?

Submitted by thenatural on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 6:16am.


Your response is both comical and sad. If you do not find placing any kind of sign, but particularly one of such a self serving nature as one promoting a political candidacy, in a cemetary,distasteful, that is sad for you.

On the comical side, abandoned property means a rundown, obviously unoccupied house, shack, henhouse, outhouse or any other similar location. That may be called something else to you. I did not say that it was unowned, I said the owner had abandoned it and it's upkeep.

Obviously in your mind a person has to be born here for an opinion to matter. Most people who live in Fayette County are "not from around here" as much as you may not like it. If you are asking me if I have been around long enough to know exactly what is going on how long would that have to be? 10 years, 15 years? 20 years? I qualify under any criteria you choose.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 7:58pm.

Good to hear from you.

Why is it soooo hard for this loser to obey the law???

I have been shocked and appalled at Simmons disregard for the law. Wow, really showing his true colors from Detroit. This isn't Detroit!!! That kind of crap might have gone over big in Detroit, but.....

Also showing his true colors when he denigrates our local law enforcement, by inflating crime stats. Geeezzz... again what a loser!

Submitted by KCW56 on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 10:30pm.

when Hannah states that he really wouldn't change much of anything, that he wants to get some new computers and updated software, that's why the crime stats are off. Then you have Babb and Mindar stating that FC only has 3 officers patrolling at night and that needs to change because of the increase in crime! One of which was the Liberty Baptist church's air conditioners being stolen at a tune of $60,000!I believe Mindar (might of been Babb) stated that with our increase of gang activity he would put in place ...
exactly what was stated in Simmons letter. Anyone else out their attend tonights Meet and Greet?

You really need to go and listen and learn. Maybe you'll take Susieq.

Submitted by susieq on Wed, 06/18/2008 - 12:06am.

I think this meeting was "Get to know the candidates." I already know the ones I'm voting for.

But if KCW56 insists, maybe you can pick me up at Starbucks and we can ride around town and check out the illegal signs. I'll wear my red hat.

Submitted by NeedtoKnow on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 5:45pm.

I have seen evidence of one of his signs taken down on Redwine Road directly across from Hunters Glen at Quail Hollow subdivision. ... His sign was back from the road so that it was legal where it was.

So if it was not in the right-of-way of the road, then it was on someone's property. Did you consider that maybe the property owner did not give him permission to put his sign on their property, and so the owner took it down, replacing it with a sign for someone he supports? This has happened with other property owners in the county, including myself.

Candidates should not place signs on private property without permission, period.

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Submitted by slider on Tue, 06/17/2008 - 8:35pm.

signs where others used to be on both sides of Harp road at Redwine. The other candidates didnt ask. Barry Babb did.

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