big dave, clayton county may be looking for a new sheriff. with all the crime they have you would feel at home. give it a try and leave us alone. wayne has a good handle on things.

by the Wayne Hannah campaign.

If you would read the article again from the other week you may notice Major Gooding showed stats from crime specifically in the Pavillion not county-wide as Simmons has. Here he has specifically focused on residential and commercial burglaries. Crime may be down in the Pavillion, and in Fayetteville for that matter, but the fact is that crime, especially burglaries across the county, is on the rise sharply. This is obvious as we had commercial burglaries three nights in a row in Fayetteville last weel. This is good analysis by a competent and concerned candidate. This is information the Fayette County SO does not want you to see. Johnson has not been responsive to the needs of the community for some time and has been unwilling to publish such data. I think the public has a right to know and wants to know what is going on in their community. The truth is that crime is on the rise in Fayette County. We need to start doing some things differently before it gets out of hand. Simmons has my vote for Sheriff!

At first your buddy was over inflating crime stats for the Fayette Pavillion. Then he was publically corrected. So now he is focusing on the county crime stats. which is what he should have been doing all along.

Why would I believe him now when he was already proved a liar once?

Well, I'm not going to take his word for it, but I'am going to do my own open records request.

Maybe this time he is telling the truth.

Now if he could just follow simple county ordinances regarding signs.......

Proved a liar? really?? How can one over-inflate crime stats when they never stated any crime stats? If you would look back at his articles you will see he never once discussed any actual statistics until now. He wrote about his impression of crime in the Pavilion based on conversations with county residents and Pavilion business owners. Your faulty evaluation of this simple fact makes it very difficult to trust your analysis on the Detroit Free Press stuff. I really hope you don't waste any money on this. As you can see it is not cheap to get all the reports Simmons and his campaign analyzed. It cost him over $700 for petes sake and countless hours of evaluating the hundreds of reports.

I just called the GBI this morning. 404-270-8454 I told them I needed the class 1 crime reports(murder, robbery,rapes etc.) for the last 2 years for Fayette, Clayton, Fulton. They said they will e-mail it to me for: FREE.

As soon as I get those reports I will forward them to Mr. Beverly to see if they can do a story on it for us.

Keep the bovine manure coming. What, was the bluff of it costing $700. supposed to intimidate me?? "Oh, the tangled webs we weave when we plot to deceive".

That is truly amazing (sarcasm). You could have just gone on their website and looked in the GBI Crime Statistics Database. This is made available as part of the GA Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) which is part of the national UCR program ran by the FBI. GA has participated in UCR voluntarily since 1975 according to the website. The data actually only goes up to 2006. Why don't you find out why for us? You know we can't do anything or make any decisions on our own. We need you so badly to tell us what the truth is. Please don't let us down.

FYI, the stats you are looking for are called Part I Index Crime Statistics, not class 1. Furthermore, I highly doubt the info the GBI sends you will include the same info Simmons has provided us. The info he came up with was from azalyzing individual reports of crime. It gives us the total number of reported incidents of burglary over a 15 month period. It also compares the total number reported incidents of residential and commercial burglaries from the first quarter of 2007 to the first quarter of 2008 and lists the total estimated values of property taken. It shows a disturbing trend that should be taken seriously.

Good luck in your search for the truth. If you would wake up you would realize it is already right before your eyes.

Sky, Drewpdawg, Tom1939 haven't done anything but play a game. They must be very, very afraid that there Randall trained boys won't get in. All they have done is created negative spins. NOTHING that I can read (and it gets very old and tiresome) implements Mr. Simmons. Even Sky admits "No, Simmons is not mentioned specifically in this story either."

They have to really work very hard to tie these articles to Simmons. They are doing their best. Why? My opinion, because they're scared.

Did you really think that the people of Fayette County are so complacent that they would not do a background check on a candidate?

Did you honestly believe that we would just take everything that Simmons put on his webpage as being true without checking?

Why would any reasonable person not use their computer to check out stories of politicians? If everything was true on his webpage, why did he start changing it as more facts came to light?

Would it have been better for you if we all just sat back and not checked on Simmons background?

Everytime I have found what I believe to be troubling reports or information I have asked Simmons for an explanation and have yet to get a response.

All I have gotten are personal attacks from the few people who support Simmons. That tells me more than I need to know about Simmons true character, or lack of it.

Keep the personal attacks coming, I guess if it makes you feel better.

Don't you hate it when people identify specific reports and you have no answer for them so the best you can do is attack?

read my blog.

Hey, Sky. The report you requested is Free and is comprised of crime stats for Fayette County. The reports Simmons paid for are individual crime incident reports that were filed with the Sheriff's Office and he probably had to pay about $5 for each copy.

Simmons reminds me of a friend who used to work for a home security company. He would go door-to-door with the local crime reports from the newspaper into subdivisions that had recent burglaries/thefts and use them to "scare" homeowners into thinking they would be next if they didn't purchase his system to protect their home. It worked for him, just like Simmons is trying to make it work for himself!

if your point is "mute", did you relate it in pantomime?

O wad some Power the giftie gie us,To see oursels as ithers see us!
(R. Burns)
If we could see ourselves as others see us, we would vanish on the spot.
(E. M. Cioran)

It's good to hear from you. You always cheer me up.

Enlighten me a little here. When did Simmons inflate crime stats for the Pavilion? I remember reading one of his letters stating that he was talking to retail managers and asking their opinion. That was around the time when TJ Max and Radio Shack were hit, then Friedman’s along with places on 314. Now you are suggesting that he must only concentrate on County stats? Then you state that he was proven to be a liar. Why? Because the current Sheriff came out and tried to dispute what Simmons was stating about crime that affects us all no matter where we live?
I am hoping that you spend your money and time on an open records request. What are you go to say when you come up with the same statistics? You are already preparing us that Simmons might be right about this in your statement “Maybe this time he is telling the truth.”
The sign ordinance issue is ridiculous. There are several candidates that haven’t followed that rule.
I am still anticipating those names and numbers from you.

I am also going to see how we compare with all of the other Atlanta metro counties. Maybe we aren't as good as we think we are.

Yeah, I know about the signs: I have seen Ballards and Rick Williams on the right of way too. It is how I judge candidates. If they can't obey simple laws when everyone is watching, what will they do with the big laws when no one is watching? Just food for thought.

Don't just blindly follow someone because you think he is nice. Everyone thought Jeffery Dahmer was a good quiet young man until they found the bodies.

and waste your vote. It's a free Country.

what are the names and telephone numbers of the US Justice and District Court that you spoke with? I would like to talk with them and verify your accusations of not hearing anything good. I believe I can find where you listed a Mr. Swagart at the Detroit Free press and I can find that info.

Also, I have many friends in WWC. I have heard nothing but great things about Mr. Simmons who I believe is still President of the board of directors. I will comment after verifying with some folks there about their thoughts about Mr. Simmons.

Where did you go?? I gave you the numbers in the post below this one.

Why do you just blindly believe whatever a candidate spews? They say love is blind.......I guess it is deaf and dumb too. Happy lovefest with your candidate. If you are the one helping him put out signs:....

STAY OFF OF THE RIGHT OF WAY!!!!! And PRIVATE PROPERTY!!!! You are making people angry.

Once again best of luck to all of the 3 viable Sheriff's candidates Hannah, Mindar and Babb.

Are you two different people? You go from a very angered person, to someone that can express thoughts, to someone angered and smug again. You wrote your comment at 5:47pm which is too late to contact anybody. The other comment of yours that I find disturbing is why you automatically believe that I believe everything anybody states. I don’t and have read the Forensic Audit and articles this newspaper reported. I question and researched a lot. I will this as well. Perhaps you need to take a chill pill.

Have a good night.

I think we both want the same thing. A safe place to live.

I'm not really angry, just a taxpayer who is sick to death of taking it on the chin.

My hope for all of us in Fayette County is that the value of our homes and quality of life will continue upward.

Yes, we want the same thing.

You left out the New York Times article. Read below. I accessed it from the U.S. Justice Dept. web site.

They would arrest people without probable cause and hold them for hours or even days without a court order?

You weren't part of any of that were you??

The fact that I did not respond to your query earlier seems to have caused McGerkin88 to believe he had me trapped. But lets suppose I was involved, am I running for Fayette County Sheriff?!?! Don't vote for me ... or Dave Simmons!

us to believe you because you just say so? Anybody else out there want to tackle who TOM1939 really is? I'm not going to waste my time.

I was just asking, because quite frankly I think that story is one of the worst ones yet.

Was Simmons ever in the homicide division?

... at Homicide or anywhere that did tangible and skilled police investigations. If memory serves me, he basically was a desk jockey in various executive offices in the Headquarters building.

In the field, as an Inspector, he was second in command a couple of times but basically was forced out of the Gang Squad in order to restore unit morale.

By the time he had obtained the "superior in command" ranks of Commander and Deputy Chief, in 1994 and 1995, he only worked in Ike McKinnon's office, then retired in 1996. The only superior in command experience is with Highland Park's Department of Public Safety.

If Simmons had ever held any serious police "superior in command" roles they would be in his resume because they would strengthen his claim of being more qualified. Nothing is there to suggest Simmons held any "superior in command" roles on the Detroit PD. Simmons has a letter from a "stranger to him" in GA to write that he is qualified. Does that make sense?!?!

The three other candidates for Sheriff do have these "superior in command" qualitifcations in their professional resumes.

why have you not answered this question posed by one of your best supporters? Leads me to believe you want this accusation to go away. HMMMM.

a quote from one of your maniac posts:
"Then, McKinnon promoted Simmons' to the rank of Commander, but left Simmons as his chief of staff. Then, McKinnon promoted Simmons' to the rank of Deputy Chief, but left Simmons as his chief of staff."

Are you one of the officers that was reprimanded or fired because of these acts? You wanted the rank of Commander or chief of staff for yourself. So, know it is a get even thing going on here? You have lost your very small, minute credibility that you might of had. The truth finally comes out.

McGerkin88, I bet Dave Simmons' is spinning the tall-tale that I'm one of the numerous police executives that were jealous of him because McKinnon chose him as his chief of staff. Therefore, this suggest that what I have stated about Simmons' "superior in command" positions, or the lack thereof, is correct.

Even if what you say is valid, how does that negate the truth of my assertions about the deceptions in Dave Simmons' resume and statements regarding his qualification to be sheriff?

Ad hominem attacks on me can't replace your lack of a valid argument against the facts I've revealed exposing Dave Simmons' attempted fraud on the voting public.

There are certain things, certain limitations that I place on what I will do to gain a position or promotion. Those things will never allow me to have to wipe my nose or wear knee pads to earn a promotion.

If obtaining the promotion requires doing either of those things I'll pass. If a person lacks self-confidence and feels he needs to resort to "brown nosing" to obtain a promotion or position he can have it ... I don't want the promotion because the price is too high.

answered Sky's question.

I did follow up on most of the info that Tom1939 put out there. I didn't just blindly follow along.

Tom put the wrong phone number on here which lead me to another reporter. But the correct no is 313-222-8769 Detroit Free Press Joe Swickard. I had to call several times finally he sent 3 of the articles on his computer. These articles are not on the newpaper website at least I couldn't find them there. The 3 I got and have used as references when posting questions to Simmons are as follows:
5-8-1992 -8-28-1992- and 12-5-1997 .

After reading these articles I was left with more questions than answers. It is true that Chief Hart was the only one indicted in the whole mess. However, the whole dept. was left tainted by it. Two of the articles I found the most troubling were the 8-28-1992, the report on Chief Harts trial for embezzlement and tax fraud, the other on Mayor Coleman Young 12-5-1997. I didn't just blindly believe the part of the court transcripts that Swickard quoted in this report that is why I called the district court to get a copy of the transcript of the trial. I talked to a clerk: the U.S.District Court in Detroit 313-234-5000. Expect to be put on hold and transfered for about a half-hour.

The U.S District Court Judge Paul Gadola lashed out in a 90min sentencing hearing at the "top command" of Detroit PD. I have repeated this several times but I think it bears repeating. The judge was quoted as saying "there is a rotten situation at police headquarters under Hart, where "top officials" became the proverbial old boys network circling defensivly as federal investigators zeroed in on Cheif Hart for 14yrs. Various "command officers" must have known what the Chief was doing-they must have known it was wrong. Yet no one did anyting or said anything"

After reading Simmons work history by his own account he says he was a command officer. My question is what did he know, and what did he do about it. That is why I question his character. I question his character, because a U.S. District Court Judge questioned the character and honesty of every "top official" in Detroit PD.

Then Tom1939 mentioned that there was a hiring, and or promotion cheating scandal going on under Chief McKinnon. He said that the U.S. Justice Dept. was brought in to investigate. So I called to see if his story was legit. I called the no. 202-305-2935 and was transfered then put on hold and then transfered again for about 45min. until an Agent Anderson answered the phone. He said that he is not one of the people who had ever worked on that case but he had heard of it. He did not have a favorable opinion of Detroit PD. He repeated what Tom1939 said the cops from Detroit PD. are considered "tainted" in the world of law enforcement.

The report from 12-5-1997 is the one that really took the cake in my book. After years of investigation into the Mayor Coleman Young. Apparently during the 1980's Detroit was overrun with crack cocaine. The investigation brought to light that "top investigators" were ordered to protect Mayor Coleman Youngs niece Cathy Volson Curry for 3 yrs. while she was "running around" with some of the cities most notorious dope lords including Richard(white boy Rick) Wershe.

No, Simmons is not mentioned specifically in this story either.

My theory on crime is you are either part of the problem or you are part of the solution. If you look the other way when you see crime in my book you are part of the problem.

One thing that I think Tom1939 has not mentioned that I uncovered in my search was a small story in the New York Times. Written by Pam Belluck publ. on April 11-2001. This story was a cullmination of years of investigating into Detroit PD. Specifically how they treated suspects. The investigation began in 1996, and went back several years. It seems that Detroit cops would arrest several people for each homicide. Apparently many more than any other PD the same size. Enough to attract attention from the Feds. Without probable cause they would arrest several people. They would hold them for hours or even days for questioning without obtaining a court order or filing criminal charges.

Can you understand why I would not anyone with that kind of mentality and training in our Sheriff's Dept.?? I am very troubled by the informantion I have read. This is all very disturbing.

Skyspy you state, "You have produced not one shred of evidence that you have been able to reduce crime anywhere."

Simmons didn't even reduce crime in Detroit police headquarters while he was there. In fact, under he and his friends, the good-ole boy Crony Club, crime in Detroit police headquarters took a dramatic turn upward. Crime increased by 350% in police headquarters during the first quarters from 1993 to 1994 when everyone knows Detroit police corruption is normally low during first quarters when drug bust money slows down during the winter months.

Hey Tom and Sky, have either of you noticed on Simmons website that he has now removed the letter of support from Ike McKinnon that he used to have on his Testimonials section of the site? Quite interesting, isn't it!!

I also found it interesting that there is a new support letter from a current Captain with the GA Dept of Public Safety who claims he was a former colleague of Simmons when the Capitol Police used to be under the GA Building Authority. This support letter claims Simmons served as the Administrative Manager and "implemented a number of programs to enhance and give our division credible recognition. The Crime Prevention and Personal Safety Awareness Classes were just some of his most notable attainments. He rewrote our policy and procedures manual as he attempted to get our State Accreditation Certification. Dave performed many other duties in his position and his experience was an asset to our department. He was dependable and handled all tasks to completion. Due to organizational changes and a transition into the Georgia State Patrol, Dave later resigned in December of 2001."

Wow, very interesting that Simmons never mentioned that he has worked for any law enforcement agency in GA. According to this Captain, this position was pretty high up within this department and Simmons served as his "mentor." Yet, Simmons despite all the great things he did according to this Captain, never mentions one word of this particular job. Why?

I also liked the comment about Simmons mentioning to this Captain back in the day that "if I had been under his command back in the days when he was the Deputy Police Chief in Detroit, that I would have easily been identified as one of his commanders based on the qualities I displayed." Sounds more to me like a bit of cronyism, what do you think?

Drewpdawg, great observations! I had been waiting for Simmons' to attempt to re-write his history because the act to conceal, in fact, becomes the thing that reveals. The thing that brings out more information and causes more questions. In attempting to modify his qualifications and replacing the "Testimonials section" of his campaign site reveals a continuing attempt to conceal the true nature of his professional history.

First, on Detroit's PD Commanders are superior officers of units, bureaus and precincts, like the Homicide Bureau or Police Precinct. Deputy Chiefs are superior officers in command of whole department divisions. When Ike McKinnon was appointed Chief of Detroit PD Simmons held the rank of Inspector. McKinnon appointed Simmons to be his chief of staff.

Then, McKinnon promoted Simmons' to the rank of Commander, but left Simmons as his chief of staff. Then, McKinnon promoted Simmons' to the rank of Deputy Chief, but left Simmons as his chief of staff.

This suggest that Simmons held the rank of Deputy Chief but notice on Simmons' site and in an article in this paper published last November of 2007, when Simmons announced his decision to run for office, he says he assisted the Detroit Police Chief in running the 4500 member Detroit police force.

Simmons applies the duties he had performed since the rank of Inspector, chief of staff, but he also lists those same duties being performed at the rank of Deputy Chief.

To the unaware, this sounds impressive "wow ... Simmons' assisted the management of a 4500 man police force." But, why didn't Simmons' list his highest commanding officer duties and responsibilities, the superior officer in command of the entire police systems and installations on the city's west side. Isn't this a more impressive and better example of Simmons "superior officer in command" abilities? This suggest Simmons' never held true "Deputy Chief" duties and responsiblities except on paper and when determining his pension amount at his retirement. Why did Simmons only list that he helped someone else, Ike McKinnon, perform his "superior officer in command" responsibilities?

Second, Simmons worked for the Detroit Police Department for over 28 years and spent many of those years in a commanding officer rank. Why did Simmons' need to find someone down here that he has probably only known for a short period of time to provide him with a testimonial of his qualifications, skills and abilities that Simmons' had earlier claimed he had gained back in Detroit? How much weigh can a GA testimonial have for his Detroit police professional experience?

After 28 years in and around the Detroit metro area as a law enforcement executive, why was the only person Simmons' could locate to provide Simmons' with a testimonial was his good friend and mentor, disgraced Police Chief, Ike McKinnon. Why not someone of a more reputable character and professional background after 28 years in the field?

Third, if the background and history of Ike McKinnon had not been exposed, if elected Sheriff, would Simmons' had retained McKinnon to some influential law enforcement role with the Fayette County Sheriff's Department to help McKinnon get back in law enforcement?

The position of Fayette County Sheriff is no game and the community’s safety should not be toyed with for political gain. What do these issues and questions suggest about Dave Simmons' methods of operating, his truthfulness and his character and fitness to head a law enforcement agency as Sheriff?

"Third, if the background and history of Ike McKinnon had not been exposed, if elected Sheriff, would Simmons' had retained McKinnon to some influential law enforcement role with the Fayette County Sheriff's Department to help McKinnon get back in law enforcement?"

I do not know this Ike McKinnon but decided to google him. Why on earth would this man want to get back into law enforcement especially here in Fayette County? Here are his credentials; Isaiah McKinnon, Associate Professor, Education

Degrees
* B.A., History and Law Enforcement, University of Detroit
* M.A., Criminal Justice, Mercy College of Detroit
* Ph.D., Higher Education Administration, Michigan State Univ.
Teaches at UDM
* School and Society
* Society and Education
* Legal Foundations of American Education
Has written three books, met five presidents, been on Oprah, and had breakfast with Bishop Desmond Tutu.

Why would anyone want to go back to a thankless job with these credintials?

KCW, same question for Simmons then. Why would he, with all his credentials and being the "most qualified" of the candidates want to go back to such a "thankless job?"

I believe he already stated it in one of his letters to The Citizen. re-read it.

Why not stand up for his long time friend and mentor, Ike McKinnon, and defend him as you have done now? Why did Simmons throw his friend under the bus so easily? Does this suggest something about Simmons' character and his ability to withstand pressure?

I had not read the websites. So, I did today. Noticed no testimonials listed on Mindar, Hannah or Babb. Can't they get anyone to write one? Find that odd. Spent a little more time on Simmons. What I find interesting is this on his link under FCSO Personnel Shift change. Here it is.

It has come to my attention that on Saturday, May 31, 2008, at 5:30 a.m., one of the current employees of the Sheriff's department who is also a candidate for Sheriff made an unannounced visit to you at shift change.

I was surprised to here about the event, because I was under the impression that all three of the Sheriff Department Candidates for Sheriff were supposed to be on a leave of absence and therefore without ties to the department.

As a candidate for sheriff, I would love the opportunity to discuss public safety issues with you at your work site. I would also assume that the other two candidates for sheriff would like an opportunity to address you at shift change.
Let me assure you that under my leadership, there will be no favoritism. Each of you will be treated with the same courtesy and respect. In return, I will expect each of you to abide by the policies and procedures of our department.

Best regards,
Dave Simmons, CPP

I assume this was Hannah with his intimidation mentatlity. Just a thought.

Why would Hannah and Babb need testimonials? LOL
We know who they are. They are not strangers to us.

You will see proof of this when the votes are cast.

We have watched Babb, Hannah and Mindar work for many years. They have not been retired for 12+yrs. so we know their strengths, and their weaknesses. We know that they have been responsible for keeping clayton and fulton crime out of our county for the most part. For the last 15yrs those couties have been in turmoil with high crime, while we have enjoyed a nice safe environment.

Yes, the criminals keep trying, we still enjoy less that half of the crime on those counties. It is because of the 3 viable candidates for Sheriff. Best of luck to Hannah, Mindar and Babb.

Oh ... I see ... KCW56 is Dave Simmons ... when Simmons' wants to pose as a Simmons' supporter. Your words reveal you are Dave Simmons. See below. Why the deception?
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Submitted by KCW56 on Thu, 06/12/2008 - 3:12pm.

I had not read the websites. So, I did today. Noticed no testimonials listed on Mindar, Hannah or Babb. Can't they get anyone to write one? Find that odd. Spent a little more time on Simmons. What I find interesting is this on his link under FCSO Personnel Shift change. Here it is.

It has come to my attention that on Saturday, May 31, 2008, at 5:30 a.m., one of the current employees of the Sheriff's department who is also a candidate for Sheriff made an unannounced visit to you at shift change.

I was surprised to here about the event, because I was under the impression that all three of the Sheriff Department Candidates for Sheriff were supposed to be on a leave of absence and therefore without ties to the department.

As a candidate for sheriff, I would love the opportunity to discuss public safety issues with you at your work site. I would also assume that the other two candidates for sheriff would like an opportunity to address you at shift change.
Let me assure you that under my leadership, there will be no favoritism. Each of you will be treated with the same courtesy and respect. In return, I will expect each of you to abide by the policies and procedures of our department.

Best regards,
Dave Simmons, CPP

I assume this was Hannah with his intimidation mentatlity. Just a thought.
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Doesn't the above blog post suggest it is, in fact, Dave Simmons?

As I have posted before, Hannah was invited to the Sheriff's Office by employees who wanted to ask him questions. He did not just "show up". He was contacted at the telephone number listed on his website and asked to come address some questions during that particular shift change. As an employee of the Sheriff's Office, I can assure you we have heard plenty from Babb and Mindar over the past 6 months. Hannah does not intimidate anyone. He has not pushed himself on any employee. He has never attended our rollcall before or put anyone in an uncomfortable position as others have at times. He answered our request and waited in another room outside our rollcall so that no one would feel intimidated or obligated to listen if they didn't want to. I personnally admire him for that and thank him for fulfilling our request.

Thanks for that information. The Simmons group just has to have something to divert the attention away from the focus on their candidate sometimes and I guess their "innuendos," like accusing Hannah of intimidation and such, are OK.

you are again so way off base. I am not Simmons. Am I a supporter? Don't know yet and none of your buisness, you don't even live here. I went to Simmons, Hannah, Babb and Mindar's website after reading the post from Sky and Drew. I copied the letter from Simmon's website and posted it. I believe this intimidation has been commented before. Another poor tactic of yours deflated.

In the blog post you have titled, I had not read yet, below, you write in third person,

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"I had not read the websites. So, I did today. Noticed no testimonials listed on Mindar, Hannah or Babb. Can't they get anyone to write one? Find that odd. Spent a little more time on Simmons. What I find interesting is this on his link under FCSO Personnel Shift change. Here it is."
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This wording, see above, suggest you are not Dave Simmons. Further down in the same blog posting you write in first person,

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"As a candidate for sheriff, I would love the opportunity to discuss public safety issues with you at your work site. I would also assume that the other two candidates for sheriff would like an opportunity to address you at shift change.

Let me assure you that under my leadership, there will be no favoritism. Each of you will be treated with the same courtesy and respect. In return, I will expect each of you to abide by the policies and procedures of our department.

Best regards,
Dave Simmons, CPP"
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This closing suggest you are Dave Simmons. I'm sure you can understand the confusion your strange blog post creates. This seems a little twisted and deceptive. Why the personal attacks when the exploration of valid character issues during an election is part of our tradition in this country?

Doesn't your behavior here merely re-enforce what I have been stating about my concerns regarding the fitness of your character to lead the FCSD? Dave, your behavior makes my point for me ... better than I ever could.

Dave, to address your concerns why the three other candidates for sheriff don't have some "stranger" write a testimonial letter for them. It could be that the three other candidates for sheriff are currently working as ranking law enforcement officers, therefore, their actions, work, the respect held for them by those they command and their character provide a living and the best testimony of their qualificiations of the position of sheriff. Dave, when your work history, professional associations and qualifications are questioned, all you have are "ad hominem" personal attacks.

One of your users Tom1939, who isn't even a Fayette County resident is attempting to falsely label one of your other users KCW56 as being Dave Simmons. Since you are so big on user anonymity are you going to let this go on? I mean when it is true it is bad enough, but when is is not it is down right despicable. Anyone with a brain will notice all KCW56 did was copy and paste Daves letter to the FCSO Personnel which is up on his website.

This Tom guys posts are ruining any legitimacy this blog ever had. His post boarder on libel if not nail it on the head. He should be banned immediately!

Tom, if your posts had any credibility and if there were any real "facts" to state why don't you put them in a letter to the editor and sign you name to it? You know that if you did you would land yourself in court. How pathetic can you be sir??

Tom doesn't get it. He is obviously filled with so much anger against Simmons he can't see the light when its shining in his eyes. I believe the tactic here in his current accusations is to draw readers away from the letter Simmons posted on his website. If you go to the link I listed, readers will read the same article about a candidate running for sheriff, who is supposed to be on leave, showed up at a 5am shift change and intimidated his officers. That is the true focus. My closing comment after the direct post from Simmons website was that it must have been Hannah, as he uses intimidation quite often and his intimidation techniques have been commented before.

Tom1939 wants to draw readers away from the important message here. I think most readers get it.

Did anyone go to the Tyrone Depot last night? The sheriff candidates were there early talking to people and lasted until about 9pm. I was unable to go, was this a debate?

I see that you are not Dave Simmons but were quoting from Dave Simmons' web site. Because there was no break in your text it seemed the words were your own and you had slipped into first person.

The tip off that you were quoting Simmons was your statement: "Here it is..." The next text is the quote from Simmons' website. I stand corrected and want to publicly apologize for any distress this must have caused you.

"I stand corrected and want to publicly apologize for any distress this must have caused you."

I can assure you, it caused no distress. Your comment shows me everything I need to conclude about you.

I bet "You were not part of the solution, you were part of the problem," up there in Detroit many moons ago. You very much under-estimate the Fayette County residents and their intelligence. You sir do not live here and you do not vote here.

You warrant no more of my time. I don't speak to disgruntled, nasty, get even, revenge type Detroit ex-officers who have nothing better to do.

CI5835, I merely pointed out that the blog post by KCW56 started out as a post in support of and defending Dave Simmons. Then, the post transformed into a " campaign stump speech" and KCW56 closed as Dave Simmons. How did I reveal anything or break anyones anonymity?!?! Simmons broke his own anonymity. I merely pointed out KCW56 post on this public form. Plus, you are attempting to break my anonymity while defending Simmons'.

We, Simmons and myself, are both getting old and I assumed that Simmons was hot and getting hotter under the collar while writing the post. After a while during the writing of the post he slipped and forgot who he was supposed to be and ended his post by using his name. Read the post for yourself ... it is continuous writing without a break.

A candidate for public office places himself out there for public scrutiny and Simmons' resume and background continues to reveal he has not been totally forthcoming about his qualifications whenever his information is scrutinized. The public has a right to know anything and everything about a candidate seeking their office, the public's office! Providing information to the public is the purpose of our free press. In this spirit my post have performed a public service and continues the mission of our free press. Some people want to control and suppress information available to the public.

Simmons is not entitled to the office of Fayette County Sheriff and all things do not have to smoothly line up so he can manipulate his way into getting, what he perceives as, his entitlement.

This is what Cal Beverly should look into and take actions against. After Dave Simmons broke his own anonymity, Dave Simmons, or his campaign or his supporters have tried to break my anonymity. His people have encouraged others to find out who I am. And, they have tried to break Skyspy's anonymity. Unable to do any of these things they are now trying to get me banned.

Certain of Dave Simmons' supporters and Dave Simmons himself should be banned from the blogs for their unethical behavior and attempts to intimidate posters on this blog to silence his critics.

A serious question to ask is, what would Dave Simmons do if he had the power and position of Fayette County Sheriff?

I checked out the name. Les Robinson says he works in the division that handles security at the capitol. Isn't that where Simmons was x-raying handbags?? I thought somone brought that up through an open records search?

Made up lie. It was an unfounded innuendo as all of these comments are from Drewpdawg and yourself Sky. Poor Tom1939. I am really starting to think you are very, very scared that your boy won't get in. Or, is someone paying you for your time? You all are really becoming very silly and it is growing very old. I wish Simmons would start investigating you as to your true agendas.

What innuendos are you referring to KCW56? And what information that I posted is a lie? It all comes straight from Simmons own personal website. You saw it yourself. The comment about the metal detectors was not mine. Tom1939 made that comment in a post weeks ago. I was merely reminding Skyspy of that. I do not know, nor do you know either, of what Mr. Simmons job responsibilities were while he was employed with the GA Building Authority Police agency because he doesn't list that information, period!! He has a testimonial letter from someone else claiming what his responsibilities were. He may have very well worked metal detectors as part of his responsibilities. I wonder if we will ever really know!

"He may have very well worked metal detectors as part of his responsibilities. I wonder if we will ever really know!"

That comment is an innuendo. Why don't you pick up the phone and call Mr. Simmons and ask him? Why don't you pick up the phone and call this guy? No, you won't do that. It doesn't fit your true agenda. You would rather put spins out there which really doesn't make you look very intelligent.

Guess I'm a little slow typing! I'm a little confused following these conversations. One post by KCW56 ("I had not read yet") is signed by Mr. Simmons. This post ("metal detectors") refers to Mr. Simmons in the 3rd person. Are there 2 KCW56s or is this Mrs. Simmons sharing an ID?

just go to Mr. Simmons website and read it. It gets awfully hard when the word gets out that there is someone that is posting positive facts about Simmons and some of you law enforcement officers quickly log on to try to negate it. I noticed that immediately.

I am not as pretty as Mrs. Simmons, and no, there are not 2 KCW56 as you can't even do that. You are just a slow reader and typer for a reason. Go back to work.

One removes their rear end from the chair and another replaces it. Given the response, it sure looks like the case here. And, you've certainly gained my support for your candidate.

What am I insinuating KCW?

That we may not know the truth because your candidate only wants to reveal bits and pieces and hope we won't be smart enough to fit the pieces together? That your candidate has a letter of reference from a former colleague that your candidate has failed to mention even holding that particular job? Since we don't have information about this job and its responsibilities, we therefore can't say what Simmons did while employed. Therefore, the fact is, we don't know what he did, why he failed to report the job, why he left, or anything else about it for that matter. Your candidate made out his own resume and makes the self-proclamation to be the "most qualified candidate." Why he left this information out is for him to explain to everyone not me!

Have you yourself called the other candidates to verify information. Or are you merely "insinuating" that Wayne Hannah was wrong for visiting a neighbor to let that neighbor know he was not responsible for stealing the campaign signs?

"That we may not know the truth because your candidate only wants to reveal bits and pieces and hope we won't be smart enough to fit the pieces together?"

Resumes are short and sweet. Perhaps Mr. Simmons resume would be to long and to intimidating to his opponents. I really don’t know.

My irritation over these innuendos is that they are circumstantial. Yet Sky is allowed in a public forum to call a candidate running for Sheriff a liar. I am in hopes that Cal Beverly does something about it.

I continue to wait on Mr. Hannah, Mr. Mindar and Mr. Babb to write some letters, I will attend and listen in a public forum or a debate. My disappointment in Mr. Hannah was a letter talking about who is stealing what but not him and writing something substantial with some meat in it. Like...plans for Fayette County’s future! Perhaps Mr. Hannah should have ignored the accusation.

In one of your many letters you said that crime was rising at Fayette Pavillion. Then the Fayetteville Police and the Sheriff corrected you publically with facts. Facts that you don't want to acknowledge.

I think you were purposely trying to scare people. The Police showed that crime is actually going down not up. I believe that you lied on purpose to scare people. That is my opinion of you. I'm entitled to my opinion.

I do have a question for you regarding the investigation by the U.S. Justice Dept. that started in 1996 and went back several years. They were investigating complaints by many citizens of Detroit who said that they were held for questioning sometimes for hours or even days without probable cause, without a court order, and without being charged.

What do you know about that? Your work history implies you were a "top official" at Detroit PD. I believe the report stated that this happened in the homicide division. I accessed the story from the U.S. Justice Dept. web site. There was also a news story in the New York Times pub April 11, 2001. Why or how would peoples civil rights be violated so blatently at Detroit PD? Why did it happen often enough to attract the Feds?

that you are Mrs. Hannah. And sometimes both of you use the same name to post. I noticed that someone else may have spotted that in your comments yesterday.

Not my fight. Nor is tom1939.

I'm not related to any police officer, here or anywhere else. I'm also not a cop. I wouldn't do their job for what I get paid, and I darn sure wouldn't do it for what they get paid. I do have respect and admiration for our local law enforcement.

I just don't like criminals, white collar crime, and crooked cops. I think all 3 of these when left unchecked ruin communities.

This really wasn't my fight either, until I started checking out Tom1939's stories. I was stunned and appalled by what I read. I think anyone with good ethics, or values of any kind would be just as appalled.

But rumor away if it makes you feel more powerful.

Yes, Tom1939 reported that information. It is quite interesting though that this Captain Robinson claims Simmons was doing managerial type work and Simmons doesn't claim any of this supposed work on his resume of qualifications!! I am confused because certainly this type of work would validate his claim to being a more "qualified" candidate for Sheriff than listing his CPP information he loves to throw out there.

This guy is a laugh a minute.

So now he changed his web site. I suppose he had too now that Tom1939 ratted him out. Did he change his dates of employment on there too??

He is trying to use shameless scare tactics. That is why I asked for the official analysis and report directly from the GBI. I'm sick of hearing lies from a dirty cop.

So I wonder how much he had to pay this "Captain" of GA Public Safety to write a letter for him? Does this mystery "Captain" have a name and can we verify his employment??

I'll check it out. So far this idiot has lied about everything else. What do you want to bet that this person doesn't exist??

I doubt he was hired by any agency. That is why he has to try to get elected. It is the only way he could get back into law enforcement is to con taxpayers into voting for him. When I talked to the officer or agent at the Justice Dept. he indicated that Detroit cops are considered pariahs in the law enforcement community. No one wants to hire them. Do a google search: type in U.S Justice Dept. Investigates Detroit PD....see what you find. They have been investigated for so many ethics violations and pure corruption I was stunned at what I found. No wonder nobody will hire them.

Here is what we know about Simmons so far:

1. He overlooked white collar crime happening right under his nose in Detroit police headquarters, and possibly contributed to it.

2. He and his volunteers can't even follow simple Fayette County laws and ordinances.

3. From Detroit to Highland Park crime increased almost 50% while he was working in law enforcement. He has never enjoyed the low crime stats. we have here. Everywhere he went high crime followed him.

4. He is truth challenged. From his weak resume, that he had to pump up with a recognition certificate of his retirement, that he tried to pawn off as something else. To work experience.

No matter how you look at it this guy is a failure.

crime in Detroit is at 100%, eh? I am sure our viewers would just LOVE to have you define what you mean by that. Keep the faith.

Even a dead fish can go with the flow.