54W shopping center gets planning commission OK

Mon, 05/19/2008 - 6:45pm
By: The Citizen

Traffic predicted as biggest problem with only one way in, out

The Peachtree City Planning Commission voted unanimously Monday night to recommend approval for a shopping center to surpass the city's size guidelines.

The approval came despite an outcry from several residents at the meeting complaining that the center will significantly degrade traffic on Ga. Highway 54 West. The Line Creek shopping center will be located on 16 acres at the southwest corner of the intersection of Planterra Way and Hwy. 54.

The City Council will make the final decision on the special use permit application for the site, and that decision is slated to come at its June 5 meeting.

Capital City Development is hoping to get permission from the state for an additional traffic light at the current Line Creek Drive intersection, which is in-between Planterra Way and MacDuff Parkway.

The 175,000 square foot center will be 25,000 square feet above the limit if ultimately approved by the Peachtree City Council.

The commission's vote was unanimous, 4-0, with commissioner Patrick Staples absent. Staples has had a significant input on the matter at previous meetings, however, and is especially sensitive to the issue as he lives in the Cardiff Park subdivision that backs up to the proposed shopping center parcel.

Under the conditions approved by the commission, the developer will have to replace any dead, dying or diseased vegetation as late as three and five years after the certificate of occupancy is issued.

That condition is critical because a 50-foot landscape buffer at the rear of the property along the Cardiff Park subdivision to the south is considered crucial by those neighbors.

The city has already agreed to swap part of Line Creek Drive and Line Creek Court to Capital City Development in exchange for other land, a move that added a controversial twist to the development.

The tract is zoned for general commercial use.
As part of the conditions for the approval of the special use permit, staff is recommending that only one business be allowed with a primary business of selling alcohol, and that business can be no larger than 3,000 square feet. Restaurants will be allowed to sell alcohol also.

Other uses that will be permitted include:
Indoor commercial recreation facility;
Auto parts sales, as long as no repair of vehicles is allowed on the premises by the property owner, tenant or customers; and
Office, retail and personal service business use.

A list of uses excluded from the site include:
Hotel or motel;
Cocktail lounge, disco or dance hall;
Auto repair, washing or sales facilities;
Any business whose primary business is selling gasoline;
Animal hospitals or veterinary clinics;
Adult novelty stores, book stores, entertainment centers, theaters and amusement facilities, peep shows and massage parlors (though a day spa will be allowed);
Tattoo parlor;
Check cashing facility where check cashing is the primary function of the business;
Pawn shops, second hand stores, closeout or liquidation stores, flea markets, bankruptcy or fire sales (though a consignment store will be allowed); and
A bingo parlor, bowling alley, pool hall, billiards parlor, skating rink and roller rink.

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Submitted by tc on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 9:37pm.

So we started with a shopping center no one wanted, but we traded the land owner public land and now the planning commission thinks it is okay to authorize another 25,000 square feet of retail in a highly congested area? Have you people been doing business with the tattoo parlor owner?????? Repeat this phrase 100 times: the planning commission works for the residents of Peachtree City, not the developers.......

Submitted by PTC Avenger on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 9:28pm.

This is absolutely outrageous. I mean seriously. It's our fault, though. While this administration destroyed our great city we did nothing. We sat on the sideline, frustrated but unwilling to do anything. It's one thing to adopt this mentality for nationwide poltics, which often seem so massive, unchangeable, beaurucratic, and faceless that any involvement is deemed futile. This should be different though. Peachtree City should be different. This is where we eat, sleep, send our children to school, and make a life for ourselves. And we let it slip from our hands without so much even clenching a fist. Is anyone still denying the changes our city is seeing? I'm not going to get into it here because it would take too long, but anyone who reads the local papers knows that our future isn't as bright as it should be. While it would be foolish to put all the blame on the corrupt city government, the fact is that they do shoulder a lot of the blame -- but so do we. I've lived in Peachtree City for just short of 20 years. The current Council, and city administration as a whole, is perhaps the most despotic, idiotic, incompetent, and destructive to date. What are YOU going to do about it?

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Submitted by simpleton on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 12:20am.

What CAN be done about it? Because I'm absolutely disgusted. I can't say I know how to drive this sort of bandwagon but I'll definitely hop up on one when it comes by.
I have not heard anything or read anything anywhere about a PTC citizen being thrilled about this new shopping center. Rather, people appear to be leaving in droves.

On the other hand, if they put a Whole Foods store in there I'd cheer them on.


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Submitted by JAFO 72 on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 4:41pm.

This seems to be a common thread amongst our "elected officials". Whatever you do, don't listen to the people. Don't use logic or common sense.
Is that the new mantra?

I travel McDuff everyday, and get a perfect view of what is to come. Are we going to see more empty shops within a year of it opening? Are we going to see traffic getting worse all through 54/74? The folks that live on the west side of PTC will be quite impacted by this new development.Those of us that live in Centennial, Ashton Woods, Cedar Croft, and Wynmeade still don't have the McDuff parkway extension we were promised. The city has a "Bridge to No Where" that was supposed to be opened a year ago. What's the hold up? All this and higher taxes? Please sign me up for some more abuse from our city officials.


Submitted by Arf on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 10:37am.

I think it is interesting that this article has had no comments even though this is the second day it's been here. I think that is probably a sign that the overwhelming majority of PTC citizens who have continually voiced opposition to Capitol City Developments shopping center and tactics have given up in disgust.

We obviously have a planning commission and council where the majority do not desire to listen to citizen input. This shopping area has been controversial from the very beginning, and the developer has continued to play his cards one hand at a time. The result is that PTC is getting shafted by the developer with a lot of help from our city leaders. This guy is getting just what he wanted from the very beginning, which was unacceptable then, and a real travesty now.

There is absolutely no credible reason why any type of shopping venture at this location would be good for the city. I once decided to work locally so that I could cut commute time, but now I spend 20 or 30 minutes every day trying to get through the intersection at Hwy 54/74 where there is a continual bottleneck. This means that it generally takes me about 40 minutes to get home from 15 miles away. We do not need to draw more shoppers or workers to this particular area as it is already covered up. Every single day there are blue lights flashing from an accident, a violation, or a stalled vehicle. To crowd this area any further is ridiculous and shameful. No one will be able to get to any further shopping venues anyway, so why are we allowing it?

There is another shopping center going up right next door and "something" being built across the street. How much is too much??? If you live in that area, you know what I'm talking about.

Obviously, no comments against development in this area are going to be taken seriously, and apparently, like most others have decided, I guess I'm just wasting my time here. We'll end up getting stuck with another white elephant one way or another, but why does any of this make sense?

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 3:52pm.

Our 1st lesson: don't vote for the town drunk for mayor, then he hires another drunk as city manager......BRILLIANT!!

Most of the stores on 54 west, well heck, (who are we kidding) we have many emtpy stores in PTC. Too many to count!. I guess one more won't make a difference.

Big thanks to everyone who voted for harold drunk.

Submitted by Spyglass on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 4:02pm.

Just as soon as someone broke the ice on this article. Smiling

Submitted by Spyglass on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 2:59pm.

But I will say, that is has NEVER taken me 30 minutes to get through the 54/74 intersection. This was the case even before the widening was finished.

That said, I sense your frustration, but with the Coweta development knocking on our door, I'm not sure that an extra 25K square feet in this area will be the death of PTC.

Submitted by R. Butler on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 3:45pm.

I agree--having lived on Planterra Way for the last five years, I cannot ever remember spending 30 minutes trying to get through the 54/74 intersection (at least going east-west). Felt like it a few times.

Still, we should not be fighting this battle at this point (again). I could say that the traffic study should have been available to the city commission before they made a decision to sell our streets to allow for a retail development of this scale. But I think for most of us who have been following this issue, there is the realization that it would not have mattered at all. Recall the TDK traffic survey--and our peerless mayor still trying to figure out a way to make this road happen, even after it was clear to everyone else that Coweta County was selling us a "bill of goods".

When you get a chance, check out the blog run by PTC Councilman Haddix. He has been doing a good job posting up the discussions as to where various elected officials are leaning on these issues. Interesting new discussion on GRTA now to expand turn lanes on 54 to accomodate this new Coweta retail development. Not sure how that bill will be paid, 54 is a state road. I trust Fayette County and/or PTC won't get stuck with the bill on that one.

My favorite opinion is based on an observation about Ms. Plunkett, who claimed to be representing the "silent majority" in Peachtree City when she voted to sell our roads to CCD. It certainly is a clever political front to avoid having to show any accountability for decisions made in the face of loud public commentary to the contrary. And, it remains completely unverifiable.

The next election cannot come soon enough.

Submitted by Arf on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 3:40pm.

Try my route. Come down 54 going toward 74 in the direction of Sharpsburg at 5:30 p.m. Monday through Friday. Stop in a traffic halt usually at Flat Creek (sometimes as far back as the Wyndham) and then slowly, slowly inch your way toward the 54 intersection, missing the green light lots of times. You are in a long line of traffic and it's coming from all sides. The traffic study said that this new development would add 700 cars coming in and out of the area between 4 p.m. and 6 p.m. on weekdays. That can only mean a lot longer wait time trying to get up to and through the intersection. Add to that the other shopping center across from MacDuff Parkway AND the mega mall at Fischer's Crossing. We ain't got a prayer.

Submitted by Spyglass on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 3:59pm.

Luckily, I don't have to drive that route often, but you must always hit it at prime time to be backed up that far daily. Best of luck..

I've said this on here when the TDK extension was being debated, UNLESS we do something about East/West access between Coweta/Fayette, it will continue to get MUCH worse before it gets better. The 3 access points across between the two Counties are TOO far apart. I don't claim to have all the answers, but continuing to add shopping/houses and not addressing access is certainly not the answer.

Submitted by sageadvice on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 12:11pm.

There are only two possible answers to "why" and one is--more revenue to PTC to hire more people, and two--someone is a developer who knows a developer, who knows another developer, or is a banker!
None of them give a rat about a "planned community" or traffic problems!
All that crap could have been built on an open road! But, who owns land on an open road that isn't very valuable?

Submitted by R. Butler on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 11:25am.

The sense of frustration over this issue has been demoralizing to say the least. Over the objections of most of the local residents, the mayor and two of other council members continue to sell us down the river on this issue. CCD comes back every few months with plans which seek to expand the scope of the shoping area, or decrease the buffer requirements. This time around, just another 25,000 square feet please.

The developer's own traffic study paints a pretty grim picture, and that doesn't even cover the weekends. And there is still no hard data backing up CCD's guess-timate as to how much the city will gain in revenue from this project--particularly when factoring in the additional police, fire and security requirements.

Last year, Peachtree City lost a major court case concerning our zoning laws because the judge correctly pointed out that our planning commission and city council were so lax in enforcing these standards that commercial businesses could easiy view our zoning laws as merely guidelines. So far with respect to the CCD shopping center deal, our mayor and has done nothing at all to change that--instead, they agreed to sell city owned streets to the developer so he could get around those pesky laws.

Going back to a statement from an earlier planning meeting, I can only note what was said by the head of the planning commission, "...we have to be careful here, because it may appear to the public that we are giving the developer everything he wants."

Yup, sure does...

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Submitted by Mike King on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 11:09am.

The above poster is correct in that many have simply thrown their hands into the air in disgust. A unanimous vote by the planners in the midst of verbal angst by residents have convinced me and others that this was a done deal long ago.

The mayor has admitted that he truly believes this to be in the best interests of Peachtree City and has convinced two other Council Members likewise. With that said what difference do the remainder of the citizens' opinions matter--absolutely nothing.

Peachtree City has seen its best days since beginning a death spiral of commercial growth some ten-twelve years ago, and can only be righted by the involvement of everyday citizens who are willing to give back of themselves.

Eighteen months from now we could have two new Council Members and perhaps a new mayor, but only if everyday citizens become involved. Start now identifying those who would be willing to serve, and make them known to others. If not this could be just another four years of developer driven priorities for us.

Just my two cents worth.


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 5:02pm.

to re-evaluate how the local political parties are set up to represent the people. Keep sending the same guys into office and then wonder why things are happening the way they are. Try something else. Keep the faith.

Even a dead fish can go with the flow.


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Submitted by NUK_1 on Tue, 05/20/2008 - 11:18am.

I'd be happy if two people I voted for last time: you and Mark Hollums, ran again.


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