Anyone without a criminal record can get a carry license. I wouldn't call it "very tough" at all as GA is a "shall issue" state which means that if you don't have a criminal record, they'll issue you a GFL. A lot of employment or property mgt companies use tougher/more thorough background checks. I'm not opposed to concealed carry and I'm licensed myself, but let's not call it some kind of tough background check. It just checks if you have a criminal record in GA(GBI) or other states(FBI). Paying a few bucks to the county and getting fingerprinted so they can see if you have a record isn't too tough to me.

As far as whether GFL holders are experienced firearm owners, that's impossible to prove. There is no data to derive that conclusion from.

is the PTC PD chief not the DTF chief. DTF agents here are mostly from the Sheriff's Dept. though it is my understanding there is one officer from Fayetteville and one from Tyrone, possibly. I know that up till now, PTC has not participated, but Chief Clark has stated some interest in doing so.
Moreover, Chief Clark is not in an elected position McGerkin. He was appointed by the city council.

Just who these vigilantes are is a secret, not only for i.d. purposes, but to protect the actual reputation of the real deputies! They are goons used by who knows who, and using the sheriff's office to go underground.
They maybe should do this for "illegal immigrants," also?
As to who a Police Chief works for, or a Sheriff for that matter, don't ask. You won't get an answer but be referred to codes!
All other employees tippy-toe around these guys, including the elected councils, and by no means does a town manager have much if any authority over them. That is why they all eventually get into trouble. No supervision.

In an article by Cal Beverly Sunday,4/13/2008 Swear in new police chief a quote from the article...

"Also unlike Murray, Clark seemed eager for the Peachtree City department to become a part of the countywide Drug Task Force run by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department. Murray resisted participation in the DTF until the day he left."

It is my understanding this Clark philosophy of becoming a part of the countywide DTF is helping a great deal in apprehending drug dealers coming into PTC. My point is that we have finally someone educated enough to see that things can't continue as they have been for obvious reasons and this is a great change in strategy that seems to be working. In just looking around at some bio's, continuing some research on upcoming local elections in Fayette County, I saw an article and read up on Clark. He seems to be what is needed in PTC and I wanted to thank him along with the DTF agents.

Who is cheif clark? Whoever he is, he had absolutly NOTHING to do with this "buy bust". Fayette DTF operates on their own.

I don't know what a cheif is?
I thought the DTF were deputy sheriffs'? Someone on here told me they were, although I don't know any deputy sheriffs' who do that sort of thing along with their constitutional duties!

I didn't know they were on their own? Who supervises them?

What I do know is they must share the publicity credit with every law official in four counties when they arrest an idiot who would sell to anyone, apparently.
Want a job there ? Must weigh 350 minimum and be ready to work an hour a week at arresting. I don't know the salary or are they on incentive? We need to know more.

on this we must disagree. The DTF works damn hard, and makes significant contributions to the drug interdiction efforts in the greater Atlanta area. They brought almost $80K in funds to Fayette last year from their participation in busts and property siezures from traffickers. They also played a pivotal role in unearthing that huge ring of growers that were buying houses in suburbia and putting pot nurserys in the basements. These guys work hard and play hard, and they have my respect

That was just Tyrone's share, for helping. Fayette Sheriff's dept took in much more than that.

that is less than 10% of the total ...can you believe what the druggies are making everyday off us? Each county, gets a /share////of the profit...the druggies are getting rich off ...KILLING....OUR KIDS!

That article was in the paper this past week. Your city cops helped the Sheriff's Dept. They got that money to help buy more equipment for your city PD. Which means a couple of less things you will have to pay for as a taxpayer.

I agree on the drug dealers. I think if you are convicted of dealing it should be a capital offense. Too many families are being torn apart by drugs.

Usually the "cut" the local agency gets for assisting the Feds is 5% of the seized funds. It may take several months on smaller amounts, and a few years on large hauls that are over a million dollars. The drugs seized they get to keep and use for themselves off the job. Joking! I keed, I keed.

That money can be used for certain purposes like capital expenses(cars, computers/technology,etc), but not non-capital items like personnel/salaries. With the kind of big bucks that drug busts can involve, 5% can add up to a lot of equipment that is otherwise not purchased or is funded by the taxpayers in the annual budget. I have seen cities and counties where their law enforcement budget was strictly administrative costs each year and the bulk of equipment purchased came solely from confiscated funds. Not only did they have sufficient equipment, it was state of the art and it lead to more drug busts which meant more money for them. Generally speaking, better equipment=better safety and better job performance for the law enforcement officer, well beyond just having a good firearm and training.

As far as executing drug dealers, we have enough trouble executing murderering scum as it is, so don't expect that punishment any time soon. I'm pretty convinced that the world would quickly make more drug dealers in any event to take the place of those extinguished. If you want to eliminate drug dealers, take away the enormous profits that drug dealing is capable of producing by legalizing the stuff. As long as you have a lot of people living in some dump and surrounded by crime that have been told they have no future(or told nothing at all because they didn't have parents), there is quite an incentive to take the short-cut to making money and getting the hell out of there by drug dealing.

I responded to "Also hats off to our new police chief in PTC for working with the Sheriff's office. Things are looking up here after all." quoted in another comment this article. Chief Clark is the new Police Chief of PTC.

My understanding is that someone carrying a concealed weapon is not allowed to consume alcohol. It is a whooping misdemeanor if you do. I am sure the police will be delighted to have an untrained vigilante force watching their back.

So how are we to know then, exactly who is the thug and who is not. If everyone is "packing heat", when do you draw? You see an odd-looking dude with a hoodie and a gun, and you decide to shoot him? You pull out your gun. Meanwhile, he sees some weird dude in a blazer and glasses with a gun and thinks, uh oh a serial killer, so he decides to shoot you? I haven't heard of anything so ridiculous as this new bill the governor just signed. I can only pray for the innocent bystanders who will get caught in the crossfire.

You just don't understand the red-nek mentality!
They don't want to use it so much as to show it to everyone they know!
Reminds me of the guy I knew once who every time you saw him, for no reason at all, he would pull out his wallet and flip through a few one hundred dollar bills, in front of a bunch of ones, for you to see! He never did have a bank account!
Man needed attention and confidence!

Do you really think the Sheriff's department used deputies in masks, detailed the plan, and executed the arrest of these guys?
You know they didn't.
Give the credit to the DTF where it belongs.

And how would you define intelligence? Clearly not by eloquence or proper use of grammar. Although I would hardly draw a comparison between drug use and poor writing skills, you come across as rather hypocritical when you deride others’ intellect in a paragraph wrought with mistakes.

It sure would be amazing if our citizens could go through a character analysis before being able to spawn. However, we do live in a "free" country. It's just unfortunate that there are so many children out there without proper parents.

I'm a great parent.

Kids want you to be with them and show you care. That is the greatest gift you could give your child.

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Thanks. I am also a "great parent," by my definition anyway. Everyone I know is a great parent. Did I tell you that I am also a great parent, myself---me?
When that dude I am raising screws up as a teenager it won't be my fault for being an idiot, it will be others fault, due to the fact that I said I was a great parent! And I am, thank you--a great parent.
My magnificent husband is also a great parent, but not as great as me since I have to do all the daily stuff in great parenting. However I am a great parent.
I am also "with" my kid, and I show them I care by being "with" them. Makes me a great parent, doesn't it? I think so, what do you think. I would like to know.

Thank you for the morning chuckle.

Alas, I don't have a great spouse. I guess that means my kid will run with the wrong crowd, get into trouble, do drugs, and get one of the good girls pregnant.
I am not sure when that is going to start, but any day now, I expect.

How are you today? I'm doing fine.

Just think our kids will be out of school after next week. I am looking forward to it. I like to spend time with my child. They grow up so fast.

I'm glad you have a great husband that helps you out.

I'm surprised you haven't told me by now.

Have a nice day.

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Do you teach your child forgiveness? And unconditional love? How about tolerance?

Unlikely.

I was never questioning your parenting abilities BPR. But, thanks for enlightening us with your statement.

now I am sure you could enlighten us as to what defines "stupid people". And did you just say that the "punishment" for being stupid "should (be) sterilization"? Keep the faith.

Even a dead fish can go with the flow.

Haha, "honest cops". They are crooks I tell you, with hardley any rules to follow. Yes they catch some guys sometimes, but what about all the false tips they get and storm in peoples house like a pack of bandits?

Don't confuse the cesspool of dirty cops in Atlanta with the Fayette Sheriff's dept.

Our guys, and gals are honest. They haven't killed any innocent civilians like Atlanta PD. They havn't been investigated by the U.S. Justice Dept. and the FBI like Detroit PD.

They are honest and apparently that is something that is very rare in law enforcement and something to be applauded.

You know so much, yet so little.

I just love shift work, don’t you?

You insinuate that you have inside information....ummmm whatever...

must be an Atlanta cop...?

Who are the DTF agents? Not by name but by department. Are all of these people sheriff's deputies, or not? If not, say so---give them credit.
Are you saying that most cops are not honest and steal drug money? If not, who are you saying don't? Detroit, maybe? I think so.
Wht did our new Police Chief do in this swarm? Watch? Did he plan it?
Why didn't he do it with his 70? Don't they own any ski masks?
I'm not making fun, just want the straight story on these things. Kinda tired of all the hype every time.
As to the level of service and integrity we have hd---have you forgotten our late Lt. Colonel, the helicopter fiasco, the money spending without authorization, the departmental favoritism, the NON_COOPERATION with Marshals, and the lack of the top on hands leadership over the years.
Might be a good time for a clean out and change here also.

First of all undercover officers should never and are never mentioned by name. For their safety and the safety of their families. I don't have to thank them by name they know who they are.

Yes, I do believe, and the the recent news stories have backed up my belief that the detroit and atlanta are rotten to the core with dirty cops. This is a problem, because cities and communities that have a large number of dirty cops also have very high crime. I think it should be obvious why no community would want crooked cops in charge.

I think our Sheriff's Dept. is doing a great job. We are surrounded by by 2 filthy crime ridden counties to our north and east. If we did not have a strong sheriff's dept. we would have 2-3 murders here everyday like they do in those counties. But, we don't we have low crime inspite of the fact that we are surrounded by filth!

Get out in the sunshine today, it will do you a world of good. Lots of sun helps even the most depressed confused minds.

PS: Sorry your main dealer was taken out. If he had pulled this in clayton county he would already be out on bond. Sorry for any inconvenience this has caused you.

You know I did not ask for their name!

So what has Detroit and Atlanta got to do with crooked cops here?

Who are the DTF? Us or them? Is even one Sheriff's deputy one? (No name please).

I am just fed up with the hype at every news conference and article in the paper. You know none of our county or city cops re finding these guys! They just show up for interviews and pictures.
They do get some of the money.

Yes the "DTF" or drug task force is run by our Sheriff's Dept. and the helicopter that you complain about was bought and paid for with drug money that was confiscated.

That is the beauty of it. The criminals pay for the equipment our Sheriff's dept. buys to catch more of the criminals. The drug money has also been used to purchase the mobile SWAT command center. You and I havn't paid a dime for it.

That is why it is important to have honest cops. They have not embezzled any of the drug monies confiscated from criminals. Instead they have put it to good use. My point is we don't want crooked cops here like detroit and Atlanta have. In those cities the drug money, and for that matter their tax dollars are not be used for their intended purpose. Which is to catch more criminals.

If they had been federal agents they would have been called "DEA" agents and an FBI spokeperson would have been the one to tell us about it.

Sorry no hype, just good honest community cops doing what they are supposed to be doing. FIGHTING CRIME!

Your a breath of fresh air. It was beautiful today, hope you got to enjoy some of it.

I'm still reading Larry Elders book. I like it alot.

Have a good night.

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It is beautiful outside. I love this time of year.

I am still reading his book also. Speaking of a breath of fresh air Larry Elder is definitly that.

Have a good night.