ATL’s secret runway: Right over Fayette

Tue, 05/06/2008 - 4:01pm
By: Letters to the ...

That’s right. On any given day several hundred flights take off from Hartsfield Airport using Fayette County air space as a virtual runway above our quiet and peaceful rural homes. [They use] the identical flight path every one to three minutes, which, along with low elevation and climbing, creates louder jet noise.

And that path is right over my house 22 miles south of the airport. Call it what you will: a freeway in the sky, a railroad track above. I call what it is: a runway!

And here’s the kicker. All of Hartsfield’s runways run east and west. They’re taking off west to go to New York City. Take off west, then turn south, then east then north or continue easterly to cities like New York, Boston or Pittsburgh or Europe, for all I know.

So why this crazy flight path? The Airport Noise Department cites wind direction and that it’s always been that way. That’s their talking points. Baloney.

I left California to get away from the city and noise to retire in a beautiful, rural Georgia subdivision with five acres of forest. I notice some residents here take it for granted, all the space and beauty you have. I see deer, geese, and listen to all the variety of birds.

I live on a cul-de-sac and there is hardly any traffic and definitely no city or commercial noise. Until the jets came.

I was living between here and Orange County for four years, so I don’t exactly know when they created this runway. I know I started complaining in May of 2006. They sent me what’s called a noise contour map. I couldn’t believe it. All those multiple yellow thin lines leaving the airport and turning into one thick yellow blob right over my address, then splitting off going various directions east and north, as high as 368 a day between the hours of 7 a.m. to midnight.

I asked for more on different dates. Same thing. I expressed my concern. “It’s always been this way.” Right.

When I first moved here, I was always out on my deck barbecuing or outside gardening. There was no annoying jets then. I was told the same thing when John Wayne airport started flipping u-turns over my house many miles away. I knew better. I’d lived there for 18 years.

Here’s the reason. They’re diverting air traffic noise because of complaints from communities east of the airport and outdated residential density data based on the 2000 census. The city and airport were required by the FAA to have open public meetings for surrounding areas that were and would be affected by the airport noise before the big future plan, FAR Part 150, could be approved and because of its expansion with the new runway.

They were obligated to announce those meetings in local newspapers and to those holding public office. The public hearings were held in Atlanta, College Park, Forest Park and Clayton County.

None were held in or for Fayette County, violating the FAA requirements for approval. No noise studies in Fayette County.

I ask you: What would you do in my situation?

Michael Meyer

michelo2000@hotmail.com

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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:09pm.

I lived near NAS Jacksonville and Cecil Field when it was a Naval Air Station. This is nothing here compared to the loudness of the aircraft there. Man oh man, are those things neat to watch! Some of them sounded like the rockets that they are. And then, the Blue Angles came to town and really rattled you teeth.


Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:51pm.

Nothing has changed in the last 18yrs that I have been here. We do not vector traffic any differently. The only time we vary or vector off course is to avoid thunderstorms.

Nothing has changed. Maybe the traffic is heavier than when you moved here(??) Our basic traffic pattern has not changed.

If you moved to GA for "peace and quiet, then you should have moved to Pike County. Very quiet and low crime.

Submitted by unphased on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 7:41pm.

Ordinarily as a jet Captain, I would try to educate you. But with a comment that "wind direction" is "baloney" with respect to the operational needs of jet aircraft, I would be arguing with someone who lacks the the intellectual capacity for the ability to make educated inquiry. In other words a waste of my time. So I will make it simple for you.

Considering your question, "What would you do in my situation?" May I offer you this. In consideration that this county was and is largely built, tax supported and populated by the good people and paychecks of AirTran, Delta, Northwest and former Eastern Airlines as well as all their supporting service companies I have only one suggestion. Move, the sooner the better for you and us.

Submitted by sageadvice on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 8:02pm.

People have a right to complain about plane noise! Maybe it could be improved.
Your attitude as an airline jet captain (whatever that is) is typical to what I have been told by some of the merchants and others locally who said that airline families were the orneriest, meanest, and least grateful of service of any of their customers. I used to think much of that was simple jealousy of the salaries and benefits of "jet captains."
I don't think so anymore with the demise of so many airlines by employees being able to ruin an airline instead of the management.

Submitted by unphased on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 10:17pm.

Yes, he does have a right to complain. He has no right to be heard. He asked what he should do. Given the fact that he is trying to change the number one multi-billion dollar economic engine of this metro area for the worse, while stating clearly his ignorance of the factors invovled, the answer is obvious. If he wants to flail around and waste his and our time. Self flagellation is a right as well. The answer to his question however is obvious unless he wishes to excercise that right.

As for the other unrelated bleating, I have yet to find one of those merchants declining my money.

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Submitted by muddle on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 5:07pm.

I've been here--in North Fayette--for eleven years. I'm not sure that I've really noticed an increase in air traffic over my home. It has always been there. But it is seldom disturbing AT ALL (In 11 years, I could count on one hand the number of times that a plane has been low enough to be really loud) and, generally, it's kind of fun to watch the planes in the sky.

My two-year-old grandaughter: "Ooh, ooh! Airplane! Airplane!"


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Submitted by River on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 4:52pm.

It's supposed to be good for your symptoms.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 4:59pm.

Isn't that good for like menstrual cramping. Smiling I would like to note that not all of us from Southern California are whiny like this. Jeez...

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Submitted by River on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 5:15pm.

Back when I was in the Air Force, one of the pilots in our unit was always complaining about something, so one of the other officers presented him with a bottle of Midol, saying "Here, for the next time your p**** hurts." This "subtle" hint was such a big hit with the rest of us that it became a standard joke whenever somebody started whining.

Anybody got a bottle of Midol for our new blogger?


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 5:17pm.

Smiling
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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 4:42pm.

Stop the whining.
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Submitted by lion on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 4:56pm.

In an act of Georgia justice and, we can assume, Christian justice, William Earl Lynd will be executed today.

I am sure Jesus would approve and gladly perform the lethal injection if he were here. Or maybe not. I do not remember Jesus advocating execution.

But we can be sure Georgia and the United States will be a safer place after the execution. If you believe so, you are badly mistaken.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 5:04pm.

However, I'm curious as to the connection of your post to this blog story?
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Submitted by lion on Tue, 05/06/2008 - 5:12pm.

My post on Lynd was not connected to any previous post.

I apologize if I confused anyone.

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