12 years and they have to try to find honest work, plus no more nepotism.

"For Gods sake look at the shape this country is in by who has been running it for all these years." Gee, I actually agree, not again. Look at what Bush has done.

in your favor. No class, man. No class at all.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

I'm in for a record 32. You go Sniffles! Stir the pot!

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It is one thing to show a man that he is in an error, and another to put him in possession of the truth. John Locke

My pastor wasn't on T.V. having to explain things he had said.

It was Mr. Wright "The BLT Church" on having to explain things he has said and it is still hurting Obama.

BTW do you go to church? If not what can you say about it? What do you know about it?

We have numerous black churches within SBC, that's how much you know, they don't have a thing to do with BLT. We see them as "The Human Race" red, yellow, black and white, they are precious in His sight. SBC main goal is that people become Christians not a SBC. Of course you don't understand.

Why are you still diagnosing Denise, your not too good at diagnosing you should know by now? Who are you to be diagnosing anyone. Sniffles you are funny.

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You mean those ministers (SBC) don't speak to their congregations about ministries to improve their communities? They don't point with pride to those in their community who have achieved? You still haven't pointed out to me the statement on the Trinity Webpage that states the members of that church hate white people. Interesting since the denomination of that church is predominantly 'white'. Trinity is located in a 'black' neighborhood and the church has 8000 members. I don't know of one member who has ever done a 'hateful' act towards 'whites'. Do you?

I thought you were not going to respond to me.

This is what Obama church believes

Click Trinity United Church of Christ

Also this:

Click Trinity United Church of Christ

James Cone created "Black Liberation Theology"

click Black Liberation Theology

This is a hate speech, just like KKK is a hate speech.

I don't know why you can't comprehend this not unless you believe it also.

We live in the land of the free and you are allowed to believe this, my point is I don't want a President that stands for this statements.

Just like I would not want a President to stand for the KKK statements.

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I thought you were not going to respond to me.

This is what Obama church believes

Click Trinity United Church of Christ

Also this:

Click Trinity United Church of Christ

James Cone created "Black Liberation Theology"

click Black Liberation Theology"

This is not what SBC does, this is a hate speech, like KKK.

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Please point out the 'hate' in the statements below.

We [African Americans] were always seen as objects. When we started defining ourselves, it scared those who try to control others by naming them and defining them for them; Oppressors do not like “others” defining themselves.

• Systematized Black liberation theology is 40 years old. Scholars of African and African American religious history show that Black liberation theology, however, has been in existence for 400 years. It is found in the songs, the sermons, the testimonies and the oral literature of Africans throughout the Diaspora.

Please point out the 'hate'.

To equate BLT with KKK is ludicrous.

The White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan was considered the most militant as well as violent Ku Klux Klan in history. They originated in Mississippi in the early 1960s under the leadership of Samuel Bowers, its first Imperial Wizard.

The White Knights were responsible for many bombings, church burnings, beatings, and murders. In 1964, they murdered three civil rights workers, Andrew Goodman, James Chaney, and Michael Schwerner. The victims were members of the Congress Of Racial Equality. Neshoba County Deputy Sheriff Cecil Price, along with Edgar Ray Killen, Wayne Roberts of Meridian, Mississippi and several other members of the Klan, shot them to death and buried their bodies in a dam outside of Philadelphia, Mississippi. Edgar Ray Killen was convicted of these murders in 2005, 40 years after they occurred. Price and Roberts are now deceased. The film Mississippi Burning (1988) is based on these events.

LOL, I was just cutting and pasting that to ask the very same question. How is that remotely compared to the KKK, whose platform requires, in part, the following:

"The recognition that America was founded as a White nation.

America was born as an extension of White European heritage. Those who formed the very ideals that we cherish such as freedom of speech, trial by jury, innocent until proven guilty, free enterprise, etc. were of White European heritage. All of the early laws of the United States from its very inception restricted citizenship to White people and all of the early charters, laws, compacts, etc were signed into effect by White people."

"We support a national law against the practice of homosexuality

This is a Christian nation and the Bible condemns homosexual activity and the perversion of our society which it encourages."

"We support the placing of all persons HIV positive into national hospitals"

"While the AIDS virus is almost inclusive to homosexuals and those not of European ancestry, many innocent people have contacted the virus. Despite the moral character of a person, the virus is still highly contagious with new and deadlier forms coming out constantly. Everyone who gets it dies! Aids carriers should receive proper medical care while a cure is being researched. This is the only way to stop the spread of the disease. They should be kept from coming into contact with uninfected people."

"We support the voluntary repatriation of everyone not satisfied with living under White Christian rules of conduct back to the native lands of their people"
"We must take back control of OUR U.S. government. We intend to put Klansmen and Klanswomen in office all the way from the local school board to the White House!"

Lovely stuff.

They are called condoms......use them. This isn't rocket science people. We don't need to spend billions of dollars on a problem that could be solved by something as simple as using a condom and being safe.

It is a personal choice ...do you want to live or not??

Please clarify....are you suggesting that those that are already HIV infected should just be left to die?

I don't think anyone would suggest that people should be left to die, like YOU just suggested.

However we are throwing some serious jack at a problem that has a very easy and cheap cure. We torture lab animals because lazy humans don't want to be inconvenienced with using condoms and being smart. Doesn't make sense to me.

Way back in the 80's when this disease was first identified, and we knew how it was transmitted.....if we had all been careful from that day forward I think it is very possible that the AIDS virus would have disappeared and died with the first few victims. With cancer there is no easy proven way to avoid it.....but with AIDS.....

I guess we should all just keep being careless.....we have plenty of animals to torture until we find a cure.

Both preach racism and hate:

BLT - "Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community
... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

Lovely Stuff, indeed

You're equating BLT to Wright, right? Fine then.

Wright isn't running for president, got it??

Am I missing something? Where's the argument?

but your "flip/flopper" candidate hung on every word his self proclaimed "hero" Rev.WRONG preached. His message infected his followers with black liberation theology.

The basic tenants or principles of BLT call for the death and destruction of white people. Yes, it is a big deal. I would be just as outraged if obama was listening to kkk messages.

with any facts whatsoever:

"your "flip/flopper" candidate hung on every word his self proclaimed "hero" Rev.WRONG preached. His message infected his followers with black liberation theology.

The basic tenants or principles of BLT call for the death and destruction of white people."

Where was the flipping and flopping? I'm not sure how much more strongly you can reject a message. And we are ALL STILL WAITING for the pictures of Barack in church receiving a hate-filled, "destruction of white people" message.

Destruction of white people, Skyspy? Are you kidding us right now?

And, if you are telling us Barack is "infected" with BLT, we are going to need to see what you based your diagnosis on.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Hack,

Barack Obama has been a member of a Black Liberation Theology "church" (or cult, however you want to look at it) for TWENTY-YEARS. Not 20 months. Not 2 years. 20 YEARS.

Now, we have gone over the tenets of BLT ad nauseum, and I'm not going to repeat it again.

Are you actually trying to imply that Barack is not infected with this BLT nonsense? Do you think that someone that belongs to the KKK for 20 years or the the Aryan Nation for 20 years is not infected?

And yes, "Destruction of White People". That's what BLT teaches blacks. We have read it over and over and over again.

Man up, Hack and admit that Barack has some splaining to do for being a member and continuing to be a member of this racist hate-filled church.

Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Perverse Worship of a man

1) I asked for proof and examples of Barack being infected by a "hate all whites" message and mentality. You still have not brought that evidence.

2) If you are going to keep equating this BLT church to the klan, please show me nice letters and rebuttals written by blacks after attending klan meetings, as I have provided you Editorials and personal testimony by whites who were welcomed by the message you all claim has tainted Barack.

Fair enough?

If you are going to continuously claim Barack hates his white half, at least you can use his own words, can't you? Anyone immersed in a "hate whites" message surely has said something you can use against him to prove this.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

"Evidence," "proof," etc., sounds like bpr and her ranting!

Opinions aren't evidence and neither are anything Wright says.

It just isn't logical that Obama could know this guy for 20 years, read all his books, hear all his sayings, and then suddenly say he doesn't agree! In fact he said not two weeks ago that stuff said in a black church for heritage consumption and in any context one wants to use, isn't fodder for politics! (No, those weren't his words but that is what they meant to me---just as Obama heard what he wanted to hear and ignored it).Church is fun if you can say what you think!
Obama also knows now, and should have from day one, he will not make it if he agrees with the sayings of Wright. McCain will thump him even if the democrats screw up and nominate Obama.
This sort of thing is different than say, McCain arguing both ways on abortion with a lot of words!
Such talk makes many think that the USA will be all given away immediately to minorities, ASAP, if he is elected, just to pay off old debts.

Of course Barack heard these same things said in many ways over the years. Even if he weren't there much he still would have heard them in one way or another.
Have you ever heard republicans defend Richard Nixon, or Ronald Reagan as to whether he knew of Iran Contra?
Their answers aren't much different than listening to someone of a deep black heritage explain to a cop or judge what happened at a crime scene.
"I never saw nothin ossifer. Rally I dint! My bro here howsumever nevr done did nothing--that i know. Oh yeah, I did see that much. Those other 25 bros hangin round saw nothin neither--you know they is black and bin misaproite treated by whiteys is there pronlm! They cut of our water and juice las week you know?
I ben meanin to pay that subsides rent for som tim now but ever tim I start to the ofice I get robbed afore i git thar. We shulfny have to pay it nowways they dont maintane nothin anyway--our toilet ben jammed for days with t shurts---they done nothin!
Anyway we dont take nothin aint airs to start wif. We don't get half uf what we shuld.
We hav a meetin nearly every night at the BLT church to ag on this unfair stuff on us but nobody hears us. Barack bin thar sum but he is quiet.
You dont want to hear the splainin about whut they hear and dont hear!

Obama Campaign Gives Up On Finding "Mr. Wright"

precludes it. The woman that feels the Supreme Court of our nation is an assassination (poisoning to be exact) away from being acceptable; the woman who berated women who lost husbands on 9/11, and were upset that the 9/11 commission recommendation's had not been followed; the woman who wished the 9/11 terrorists flew into the New York Times building, killing their employees; the woman who has said women should not have the right to vote; the woman who said of John and Elizabeth Edwards, "Ask me about my dead son."

I will never ask or expect you to read Bill Maher. Please don't be offended by me not reading this evil woman in a black dress.

Cheers,

and I spoke good words of you at coffee today. Did you hear rips in the conventional psyche?

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

WARNING: Major explosion ahead!

First obama was never present or never heard any messages from Rev. Wrong that he didn't agree with, now he is strongly opposed to some of his controversial messages.

Flip/flopper!

I think the "message" of black liberation theology is just as scary and wrong as the message the kkk puts out. Wanting to destroy any race of people is WRONG!

How is your wifes sister doing?

My sister in law is still in ICU. Slow improvements. I don't want to put her medical info out there, but it isn't far off of Mrs. Muddle's struggles; just not as severe, at this point.

Talked to Hutch today. He is aging in reverse. I wish I could do that. he said not much change on his sister. Let's keep all of our extended blogging family in prayer.

As for the flip flop, I don't see it. If Barack says he hasn't heard offensive speech from someone, but denounces the taped speech he sees on television. Then, when the loony rev speaks lunacy in front of a live audience, he cuts the rev's legs off at the knees and rejects him completely, where is the beef? Where is the flip? Again, no one has shown that Barack heard the speeches in question. Visitors to the church recounted messages of hope and inspiration. How is it hard to believe that Barack heard the same messages these white visitors heard. Why has someone trained to hate whites never uttered hateful words towards whites? I think this manufactured "pen Wright's words on Obama" is doomed to fail, simply because, in America, we speak for ourselves. I don't answer for your words and you don't answer for mine. You and I are friends. We've shared food and drink. Does that mean you believe everything that I say, or that you are forced to repudiate everything I say? Not at all.

I still need about 23 more blogs on this topic, though. Cheers, and have a great weekend

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

You are right important stuff first: all of our blogger families first. Your sister inlaw and hutchs sister and Mrs. Muddle are in our prayers. Really that is all that matters.

Let me know if you need help this week, before your better half comes back.

That is all for the important local news tonight. Take care.

sorry about your sister-in-law. My heart goes out to your wife to you and your wife's family. I am not a heartless person. I know what it is like to loose a sister and mom. I will never get over it.

I will be praying for your sister-in-law, Hutch's sister, Muddle's wife. I hope I am not intruding.

Things that we think are important are less important when things like this happen.

Sky is my friend also, Sky has helped me out alot, has a big heart, the best!

Have a nice evening.

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Kidding. Kidding. Thanks for the well wishes. My initial thought was to post her situation on the blogs, but the timing just did not feel right. Thank you though. You are certainly welcomed into this prayer circle. Her name is Robin, she is single, and will appreciate your prayers. FYI, she is a devout Christian with a heart of gold.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

That was cute. Thanks

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but, of course, I'm not scared of you.

Ann Coulter? She scares me.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

And I am tired of explaining this over and over and over and over gain to you and David's Mom. But I will anyway, because like Hack says, any publicity is good publicity.

Barack has been a member of a BLT hate-filled, racist church for 20 years, a church that follows the teachings of Cone, who wants God to destroy the white man. Barack is now running for POTUS, and it is entirely relevant that we ask that he explain why he remains a member, now that we all know what BLT is all about.

Now, what part don't you get?

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Perverse Worship of a man

Sorry you're tired. Give it a rest.

Until B-HO quits the hate-filled, racist BLT church he belongs to and explains why he remained a member for 20 years.

The people need to know the truth. He would be a very dangerous leader of our country, and could become a "Mr. Charley" to white people because of his BLT leanings.

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I believe that you are like me and you want people to be treated equal.

I had never heard of BLT, until Sky talked about the Death to White America that Mr. Wright preached on. Then I did my research.

I must say not all, I call it the "Human Race" churches are like this.
Black churches- tons in SBC, they don't and won't have a thing with BLT or they could not be part of the demonation. We love people not skin color.

I do compare BLT with KKK which they are both hate speech.

I want Obama to say that he is not BLT, when on the church site they state they are. He had to know this. I am not attacking Obama, I would do it if it was anyone.

The BLT belief system which I have put up by James Cone does not go along with the bible. We are to love all people.

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Okay, I am being fair on this subject.

I have read Hagee and Parsley have said, I don't agree with them. The difference is McCain did not attend their church for 20 years nor does he now. This is not a defense, it is facts. If Hagee and Parsley support him what is he to do?

I do believe in the statement that Islam is a false religion, Malcolm X was Islam.

James Cone founder of "Black Liberation Theology" took Martin Luther King and Malcolm X to create BLT. When Martin Luther King was alive he said that he did not want anything to do with the combination. Thank you Martin Luther King. He quoted that it is wrong and would only cause problems that he was trying to take care of in the first place. What a great statement.

People we are talking color of skin, please I find it ridiculous and not Christ like to base someone's value by the color of skin.

This kind of teaching or speech is not allowed at my house, nor the church I attend. I have always taught my child this and he does not have a problem with it. I value people too much.

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Do YOU support Hagee and Parsley? Send them money?

"Islam is a false religion," you say. How about Buddhists, Confucians, Hindu, Sikhs, and a thousand other religions?
If they are all false, then we just eliminated 95% of the world!

"Cone took MLK and Malcolm X to create BLT." Makes no sense to me!

bpr, skin color is not the problem: heritage, ways, means, actions, attitudes, make some despise others--not color.

I'm going to church. I will answer your questions when I get back. Plus that will give you reason to think of more.

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