I was one of Harold Logsdon's strongest supporters on this web site when he ran against Steve Brown. Logsdon has proved nearly everything I said about him wrong while Brown has been proven right on many of the issues.

I'm not saying Brown is right on everything, but let's say I've never found myself wondering if he's getting money under the table like I have with some of the others.

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Of course there is a landfill on that site; the government documents clearly state this. But the important issues are the landfill was unregulated (meaning we have no idea what is buried there), unprotected (meaning no liners were used to keep whatever is buried there in place) and the city took 100 percent of the liability off the shoulders of the previous landowner.

To a hypothetical casual observer, one who has no skin in the game, this would sound like a classic example of "buying a pig in a poke".

I am a unit of little brain, in case you haven't noticed.

the truth scares them. I would consider your letter bland compared to some of the columns by Matt Towery and Michelle Malkin.

You're causing the good old boys some headaches. Keep it up.

"I'm NOT John Munford"

Where is the attack in her letter? I didn't read it that way, maybe if your foresight was as good as your hindsight you would still be mayor of PTC. I don't live there so it doesn't matter to me, but I do find you amusing as you twist things around to suit your purposes.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Interesting point hutch866, I did not take my letter on the police station as a personal attack either. Kay's letter is void of issues except that she dislikes me discussing the issues and people who shape them.

My letter that incited Kay's entry is above. Please tell me the parts that are "twisted" (hutch866) or are "distortions and mischaracterizations" (Kay Lloyd).

This is how the old guard tries to rein-in the trouble makers who point out things the people should not know. Remember, an informed public can be a dangerous thing.

How many letters have you written that are? The rest of them, more than likely.

I guess if you were involved in the Development Authority loan scandal or the police station scandal, your opinion will be that highlighting the issues is an attack. On the other end of the spectrum, if you (taxpayers) are the ones paying the expensive bailouts in the millions of dollars as a consequence of the unsavory deeds, you are reading about legitimate issues.

The perspective varies depending upon what side of the legal fence you are on and whether you benefited or ended up paying for the damaging mess.

If what I am saying in the letters is not true, then cite the specific sections for the record.

You tell us what was so terrible about the letter. Your as limp as wet pasta blogs sucking up to the people who kiss the most developer behind are a waste of the everyone's time.

Neither you or Kay have come out and said what was mischaracterized or twisted about Steve's letter. Put up or shut up spyglass.

With you good ol boys, the best defense is a good offense. Steve is getting a little too close to home for some of you poor darlings.

Kay and you preferred the old Robert Lenox days when corruption was easy and no one dared to speak out.

out of Fayette since the vast majority of voters won't vote for Brown? Down real estate market slowing the move out?

You and the few other Steve Brown worshippers have the same mentality as he does: everyone who disagrees with his opinion is a developer, somehow being enriched by government, corruption, blah blah blah. All the incessant whining equals huge defeats in elections. Wise up already.

I always liked Steve Brown. Voted for him and hopes he runs again. You're obviously a corrupt developer being enriched by the government.

I never realized that the majority of people in PTC/Fayette were developers being enriched by the govt until Brown became a politician. This area has to have the highest concentration of developers of any area on the planet, or there are a lot of non-developers who simply don't vote for Brown. Hmmm.

Now you know that the whole county is full of developers! Although by saying that you did not agree with SB you virtually admitted to being a corrupt developer yourself getting rich off the government, how could you not have known that? LOL.

PS: Don't let that slip knot strangle you...

I said most every other letter he's written is an attack on someone or some made up Boogie Man in Fayette County. What is so hard to understand about that?

Obviously we disagree on Steve's approach. I've said on here before, that's one of his major problems. In person he's a nice guy, but when he gets to typing, something changes.

He screams of illegal this, illegal that, yet has ZERO proof. Beating a dead horse comes to mind.

You sound like Barack Obama! What do mean zero proof? I agree with carbonunit52 on the police station being a pig in a poke. How can you defend stuff like that? You're ridiculous!

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Where have I defended it? Why is the current Council to blame for it? Why does someone always have to think everyone was out to get the Citizens of PTC in every issue?

That said, where are Steve's answers to the problem? I've read his rants about the Police Station, where are his solutions? I contend has has ZERO answers.

If you're not defending the police station, are you saying Brown was right? If I'm not mistaken he was replying to Mayor Logsdon's BS about the police station not being on a dump and the other issues.

Please don't tell us you think the police station deal was above board. You've got to be smarter than that.

I agree Brown hasn't delivered any solutions. HOWEVER, I don't have a single problem with him pointing out the serious problems with Mayor Logsdon's fuzzy logic. That, in my opinion, is the right thing to do and I wouldn't call it negative at all.

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It is apparent that many still do disagree with his brand of Politics. I'm not sure where this is going, other than round and round. IF Brown has any intentions of actually holding office in this area again, his tone will have to change. That is my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

I still think his constant rants with ZERO answers, as even you admit, is not doing anyone any good.

You didn't answer the question, if you perceive her letter as an attack, then using by your definition, all your letters have been attacks, that's the twisting part. I really don't believe I'm part of the "old guard" by anyone's definition, but if it makes you feel better go ahead.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Kay, thank you for speaking up for the silent majority. This community is done with Steve Brown's politics of personal attacks, half truths, and mischaracterizations. Every week it's another personal attack on another person. He seems to think a new conspiracy lurks around every corner.His tone is constantly negative and rarely offers any solutions to the perceived problems he brings up. He usually focuses in on those that have defeated him. I think this is called, " Sour Grapes ".

Thanks again for your great remarks. Kay!

I've disagreed with Steve Brown before on this site. Brown always keeps after Mayor Logsdon for not lowering taxes. The truth is Mayor Logsdon is under no legal obligation to lower taxes if he doesn't feel like it.

I think Kay Lloyd is right in saying Brown is an intelligent person. No one is going to say he doesn't know the issues of the day. However, I disagree with Lloyd on her move to shut Brown up. He's got the same right to public speech as anyone else. We didn't serve our country overseas for the Constitution to apply only to a few politically correct people.

Yes, the police station is a disaster but don't blame Mayor Logsdon.

I said Brown was the best person to replace Dan Lakly and I still believe it. If we want to continue to prosper in this area, we need to wake up. Yes, there are people in real estate development who want quality growth.

Hey CCB, maybe you need to see a shrink. You would vote for Steve Brown but you don't agree with him on the issues???

The mayor promised to cut taxes and he didn't do it. Sure there isn't a law forcing him to keep his promises, but behaving that way causes the citizens to distrust the government. I don't know a single person who trusts the mayor any longer.

Steve Brown has the guts to say what he thinks is right and it tears at the heart of the good old boy stooges. They love guys like Logsdon and Chance.

"I'm NOT John Munford"

CCB, did you read the same letter to the editor that I did from Kay Lloyd? Nowhere in her letter does she claim to want to 'shut Brown up' as you say. It is rather clear to me that she is simply saying that perhaps Brown should quell his personal attacks on all elected officials and try to get his points across in a more civil and courteous way than he currently does.

I think the fact that a wife and mother took the time to write a letter to the editor (not anonomously like others here or in free speech) should be a wake up call to Brown that his mean-spirited ways are not at all effective and are in fact a turn-off to a lot of people.

Civil and courteous discourse on issues is not only polite it is the correct way to do things. Brown needs to learn that. But if he doesn't ever learn it, it is still his right to say what he wants about whom he wants. No reasonable person would try to restrict that right from him and the letter writer in no way implied that, CCB.

HaHaHaHa!

The rest of Atlanta just laughs at our small minded antics.

I'm not sure anyone in Atlanta laughs about other governments when the City of Atlanta is so incompetent and poorly-run that they have no idea who they owe money to or why every year their Finance staff shows up trying to explain away another fiasco.

Then again, maybe they do laugh because PTC's problems seem real pettt in comparison:)

Kay Lloyd said Steve isn't "a healthy and productive contributor to the local political scene" anymore.

Wait a minute Kay darling, are you saying Harold Logsdon and his lies, the Development Authority and their corruption, the police station on the dump and Ronnie Chance and Matt Ramsey's sneaky legislation are healthy and productive?

Look darling, your letter was nothing but a political hack job. Who are you working for?

To root out the Boogie Man that so haunts Steve. What's your over/under on how many handles he posts under here? I know he has a select group of myrmidons.

Exactly my thought stream...gotta love that when people point out the paranoia and pervasive negativity, the response is "Who are you working for?" Perhaps there is something in the water around here.

I've said on here before, that's his downfall. Constant attacks...with no real answers, except to say everyone is out to get the Citizens of PTC and Fayette County.

Brown can't comment without provoking a impassioned denial by the Development Authority Warner crowd whether its illegal loans, illegal closed meetings, leaking roofs, crooked sneaker contracts.....Brown could say there is a 30% chance of rain and the crooks would label him as negative.

Meanwhile we have a glut of dishonest politicians....

Indeed, it's the same voice as the overwhelming majority of voters in Fayette County.