"'60s Radicals Become Issue in Campaign of 2008"

Who are O-BOMBa's friends and political allies?

Weather Underground bomber William (Bill) Ayers and his radical wife Bernardine Dohrn

What did they do?

The Weather Underground claimed responsibility for bombing the Capitol, the Pentagon, the State Department Building and banks, courthouses, and police stations. 3 members died when their bomb-making session at a New York City townhouse went awry in 1970, and several members were convicted in a botched 1981 Brink's truck ambush during which 2 police officers and a guard died.

Ayers and Dohrn disappeared (went underground) after a bomb, meant to be detonated at New Jersey military barracks, prematurely exploded in the Manhattan townhouse.

Both faced charges stemming from Chicago demonstrations in 1969 but Ayers' were dismissed for prosecutorial misconduct while Dohrn pleaded guilty to aggravated battery and bail-jumping.

Ayers was quoted in The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2001, as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

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"just sit back and watch the train wreck"

Who's another of O-BOMBa's "friends"?

As a defense when asked about his connection to local terrorists, O-BOMBa said during the debate: “The fact is, is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions. Do I need to apologize for Mr. Coburn's statements? Because I certainly don't agree with those either.”

[Sen. Tom Coburn is a physician who specializes in family medicine and obstetrics, having personally delivered more than 4,000 babies. "Under the mores we live under today, my lineage wouldn't exist," Coburn said, explaining that his great-grandmother was raped by a territorial sheriff.]

Kind of reminds me of O-BOMBa's response about the ir-rev Wrong when he equated Mr. Wrong's offenses with his dear grandmother's fear of being mugged.

Watch out! if you're a "friend" or relative of O-BOMBa's.

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"just sit back and watch the train wreck"

The final Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the Democratic Presidential Primary in Pennsylvania shows Hillary Clinton with 49% of the vote and Barack Obama with 44%.

The demographic make-up [the more moderate church-goin’, gun-totin’, bitter ILLEGAL-immigrant-haters] of the state seems to favor Clinton, which has enabled her to retain a modest lead despite being significantly outspent by the Obama campaign.

Early in 2008, most Democratic voters viewed both candidates favorably. That is no longer the case. Just 43% of Obama voters have a favorable opinion of Clinton. Only 42% of Clinton voters have a favorable opinion of Obama.

Nationally, McCain currently leads both Democrats by an identical margin of 48% to 43% [despite being significantly outspent by both Democrat campaigns and the battle-for-the-Dem-nomination media dominance for the last few months].

BPR, keep those O-BOMBa-grams coming! I volunteer to be your editor! And you receive such charming hate mail, too. It's almost as good as Hannity's.

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8-week fetus ("young one") -- Only 30-32 more weeks to go!

“Women who are experiencing an unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy.” (Feminists for Life)

Abortion stops a beating heart!

obama's friends??

When you lay down with dogs you get fleas. We are all known by the company we keep.

Have a good day it is going to be beautiful convertible weather.

Wish you and your "little friend" had been in Wynmeade today. They could have used its "report"

Now, to fairly balance this latest puddy bullet that will bounce off of Barack due to its very nature: If we are going to judge candidates by such a standard, Git Real has assured me that conservatives are balanced in their critiques. Let's test it out.

What do you, BPR, and Denise think about the "Keating five?" As you are news hounds who can seemingly find anything, and seeing that "beyond reproach" is the standard, how do you feel about John McCain's roll in blocking an ethics investigation of a failing savings and loan while serving in the US Senate? You recall, I'm sure, that McCain was reprimanded by the Senate Ethics Committee for "questionable conduct."

(Source: Wikipedia)

Do you think he's itching a bit from these experiences of the early 90s? We'll talk his Hagee waffling later.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Group Launches Obama 'Willie Horton' Ad

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Perverse Worship of a man

Particularly since the stand came right ofter Illinois had to release 13 people on death row after they were found to be innocent. Oops, sorry for all the prison time guys.

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It is one thing to show a man that he is in an error, and another to put him in possession of the truth. John Locke

I was going to support you on BLT - wow, you are good at this. It's not only BLT. I know that's the case with you also.

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We Will Stand

But you could at least join our "fair and balanced" campaign to expose the wrongs of political operatives. Not even a Keating whisper out of you? does that mean, as you said,

"Just because no one responds doesn't mean that they aren't reading them. It just means that they cannot refute the facts in the article."

If that's the case, then, by all means, maintain your Keating silence. I understand the uncomfortable position you are in.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

The real question is: Are you "bitter" off than you were 4 years ago? 8 years ago?
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Diagnosing Denise

It's obvious that you haven't been paying attention. I don't like McCain. But I dislike B-HO and Hitlary even more. It's become a game of voting for the lesser of 3 evils.

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Perverse Worship of a man

He doesn't know how to pay attention. Maybe he needs a loan?

He must have Alzheimer's because OVER & OVER we've said what you've said, "I don't like McCain. But I dislike B-HO and Hitlary even more. It's become a game of voting for the lesser of 3 evils."

Maybe I need to put it in an audio file so that he can hear it since he can't read it.

The Lesser of 3 Evils

Here, Hack, this is for you:

Instant "FEEL GOOD" Message

You'll need it after Hillary's win tonight (55% to 45%?).

"Clinton beat Obama in the Keystone State primary with a big boost from her core constituencies, including lower income and union households, but she also ended up overperforming among some groups that are Obama strongholds, including college-educated voters and last-minute decision makers."

"Trailing Obama in pledged delegates, she’s trying to win over uncommitted superdelegates by arguing that she’s more electable against McCain in a general election. A big win in Pennsylvania helps strengthen her argument that she is dominating in large swing states critical to Democrats in November."

"The Clinton campaign claimed it raised $500,000 online in the first hour after polls closed Tuesday." WOW!

Not to depress you too much, but McCain is still ahead of Hitlary and O-BOMBa in the national polls.

Baracky: The Movie -- But, there's always HOPE for a CHANGE in the poll numbers.

Not to depress you too much, but McCain is still ahead of Hitlary and O-BOMBa in the national polls.

Wishful thinking, Dense.

Back here in the reality-based community, McCain leads Obama in exactly ONE out of the last EIGHT major national polls (all conducted in April 2008). Three are statistical ties, and Obama leads McCain in the other three.

General Election: McCain vs. Obama

Spin THAT, my fact-free fetus-flushing friend!

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Diagnosing Denise

See "Daily Presidential Tracking Poll" (Tuesday, April 22, 2008). I already posted this link to Hack. You do have a compulsion to answer posts not addressed to you.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows John McCain with a three-point advantage over Barack Obama 47% to 44%. The presumptive Republican nominee has a six-point advantage over Hillary Clinton, 49% to 43%."

But polls go up & polls go down ... especially the more we learn about Obama.

“If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names.”
Elbert Hubbard

The name-calling technique links a person, or idea, to a negative symbol. The propagandist who uses this technique that appeals to our emotions rather than to our reason hopes that the audience will reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative symbol, instead of looking at the available evidence.

You really should put your alliteration skills to better use.

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8-week fetus ("young one") -- Only 30-32 more weeks to go!

“Women who are experiencing an unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy.” (Feminists for Life)

"You do have a compulsion to answer posts not addressed to you."

That's a funny statement coming from BPR's new editor.

OR:

"The name-calling technique links a person, or idea, to a negative symbol. The propagandist who uses this technique that appeals to our emotions rather than to our reason hopes that the audience will reject the person or the idea on the basis of the negative symbol, instead of looking at the available evidence."

So what EXACTLY do YOU mean by "O-BOMBa?"

Sometimes I think that you are arguing with yourself Denise. And I'm sure, in your mind, you win all of those arguments too. How can both of you never be wrong, but stand on opposite sides of "name calling" arguments and "why did you answer for someone else" arguments, and "scientists versus a Baptist Minister" arguments?

At any rate, as you address people who are voting FOR candidates because they LIKE those candidates, I will also answer "spin that" to a list of every comprehensive poll being conducted.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

hypocrisy in action?

Charles Gibson and George Stephanopoulos nailed this one to the wall on their favorite "American Idol"

Stop the Torture (of the American people)

But I've got to say it: You are bringing it WEAK. (or weakly to be correct.) If someone cuts and pastes a ripped off quote about the harm of calling names, and right above it they have O-BOMBa, that is the definition of hypocricy or psychosis, or both. Ask yourself this: Why am I here? And why am I making my fighter guy avatar look like a water-carrier?

Dude.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

You say all these things to myself and Denise and try to sound so charming- well I don't buy it.

You always talk about other people in your post.

Now, you tell me which candidate that I like that is running- since you know?

What do you have against Baptist ministers? Give me some - hey if your going to heaven with me you better get use to me and learn some kindness. Charm does not do it- especially when it's fake charm.

Your just angry because all people don't see it your way- that's life Hack- at your age you should know that and take it - or the stress will get to you.

I don't care if people disagree with me.

Before I leave I know why Main can't meet me. Main didn't even answer when I said that.

I could name a bunch of people that you come to resuce, I addressed Main about the following Friday for lunch, and you answered.

Greetings, Skyspy (BPR and Denise; you're invited too !)
Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 04/22/2008 - 3:49pm

Oh and yeah, Have a good evening.

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We Will Stand

You, BPR, said this:

"What do you have against Baptist ministers? Give me some - hey if your going to heaven with me you better get use to me and learn some kindness. Charm does not do it- especially when it's fake charm."

BPR, I was addressing Denise's criticism of Southern Baptist Ministers who signed a document to address climate change. In the post BY DENISE, DENISE SAID THIS:

"400+ scientists or 44 Southern Baptists? Take your pick. What is it about major Christian denominations that leads them, inevitably and inexorably, into error?"

AND THIS:

"Why did the SBC reverse its June 2007 position that questioned the scientific belief of some that humans are largely to blame for global warming and that increased regulation of greenhouse gases will hurt the poor? The bottom line [$$$$] is that the mega-churches have to retain their memberships to stay relevant, and for that they have to stay in tune with their [brainwashed] congregations."

AND THIS:

"The green leader is the 25-year-old son of a former president of the convention who had an epiphany while attending a class at a Baptist theological seminary: "The Lord spoke to me in that class through my theology professor, who said we receive revelation from God not only through His word, the Bible, but also through His creation, nature. When we destroy His creation, it is no different to tearing a page from the Bible."

[I'd close that seminary if this is indicative of theological soundness.]"

So BPR, as Denise goes around closing seminaries and insulting even ministers if they are on the wrong side of her issues (and she DOES have issues), I would greatly appreciate it if you aim and fire your critiques of what she says at her instead of people who, like you, express dismay over her "ideas." And you might also ask her if she thinks you are part of a QUOTE: "[brainwashed] congregations" UNQUOTE.

You've got to learn how to swim in these fast moving waters, BPR. If you are going to occupy heaven with Denise, you had best get used to her and learn some kindness, and the ability to pin the tail on the right donkey.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

I don't how in the world you came up with SBC when I asked you why it always has to be a race issue. Then you referred me to Denise and SBC?

If you notice in her post there is a link and this is it,

click SBC

I don't have a problem with what Denise said. Read the document closely.

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We Will Stand

Now you can't even keep up with your own posts. Try to read through the few posts above chronologically. I don't know what else I can tell you. Good luck

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Sorry, it's not on here, you will have to cut and paste it.

My point is if you are going to heaven with me, it's not about SBC it's about accepting Jesus as your Savior.

Now, back to Denise, you will have to show me.

Please find a no kill humane society for the dogs, some of them are a kill humane society.

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We Will Stand

You might want to set Denise straight.

I speak from experience on the "fast waters" and misattribution.

Done it before; I'll probably do it again.

Denise Attacks SBC ministers and "brainwashed congregations"

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

to go to heaven with BPR. My short list of folks with whom to spend eternity.......nope she's not on it.

Are you God?

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We Will Stand

We all are. What do you think the difference is between a live body and a dead body?

I do not go to the temple, I am the temple.

New friends, cabonunit52 and sickoffacist- Have a good night!

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We Will Stand

You are the one telling people what they have to do if they want to go to heaven "with" you.

Hummmmm?

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We Will Stand

that was erudite.

as she is. Sorry, I will try to curtail it.

of the power of the right-wing side of the force. Trap you it will, sticky it is.

I heard the very same thing only it was the "left-side" of the force.
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of the force, allows empathy it does, steers you away from the edge of the cliff it will.

Feel the power of the force....perhaps there are more of us out there in this county than folks realize.

"...perhaps there are more of us out there in this county than folks realize."

We're out here and we have stopped being silent. I am meeting more and more Dem's and liberals when I'm just out and about in PTC. There were about 250-300 Dem's at the caucus this past Saturday at Maguire's Pub in Senoia - the place was packed.

May the force be with you....

Let me put my special aluminum foil beanie cap on to prevent those ole nasty space aliens from corrupting my thoughts.

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Make sure it is a pyramid shape that is congruent with the dimensions of the Great Pyramid.

don't forget the correct directional alignment. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

I had the same thoughts!!!!
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Your avatar, is that your favorite band. I don't know if some people know who it is. Don't worry, I have a teenager- he told me.

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We Will Stand

SlipKnot is pretty good. I like the avatar because it's pretty distinctive.

My son walked by and said that is SlipKnot- it is distinctive. Wonder how many people on here know who it is? That is who I thought it was and then he told me.

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We Will Stand

And you will note, Dense, that your poll is included in my link as well. It is the only poll out of eight major national polls that shows McCain with a lead.

How interesting that you exclude all seven other national polls that do not support your preconceived notions. It must have been an inadvertent oversight on your part.

As an aside, this is a public blog and I respond whenever and wherever I choose, much to your apparant dismay. If you prefer a one-on-one discourse I suggest you investigate using e-mail or the telephone.
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Diagnosing Denise

I view blocking an investigation of a failing S & L that tax payers had to massively bail out as far outwieghing sitting on a panel of many people, one of which whom is a whack job, while organizing charitable activities. That's just my take.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

You go Hack! Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was reportedly associated with 'the 'weathermen'. Some connection! Ayer has passed loyalty oaths to secure teaching positions at the University level. I guess to some - you never 'pay' for your mistakes. Oh well . . .we'll see what happens tonight in Pennsylvania. Many are still scratching their fleas!! (Republicans and Democrats!)

"I guess to some - you never 'pay' for your mistakes."

Exactly how did Ayers or his wife "pay" for their mistakes?

The Weather Underground claimed responsibility for bombing the Capitol, the Pentagon, the State Department Building and banks, courthouses, and police stations. 3 members died when their bomb-making session at a New York City townhouse went awry in 1970, and several members were convicted in a botched 1981 Brink's truck ambush during which 2 police officers and a guard died.

Ayers and Dohrn disappeared (went underground) after a bomb, meant to be detonated at New Jersey military barracks, prematurely exploded in the Manhattan townhouse.

Both faced charges stemming from Chicago demonstrations in 1969 but Ayers' were dismissed for prosecutorial misconduct while Dohrn pleaded guilty to aggravated battery and bail-jumping.

**Why were there no charges for terrorist acts resulting in the deaths of 5 people?**

Ayers was quoted in The New York Times on Sept. 11, 2001, as saying, “I don’t regret setting bombs; I feel we didn’t do enough.”

If Ayers & Dohrn were "black," they could use their "liberation" theology as an excuse -- "reason" -- for their behavior. Radicals have a lot in common. Maybe their backgrounds qualify them to "teach" diversity training -- brainwashing -- at their universities????

Please tell us more about their "loyalty oaths." Do they have flag burning as part of the ceremony?

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8-week fetus ("young one") -- Only 30-32 more weeks to go!

“Women who are experiencing an unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy.” (Feminists for Life)

"If Ayers & Dohrn were "black," they could use their "liberation" theology as an excuse -- "reason" -- for their behavior. Radicals have a lot in common. Maybe their backgrounds qualify them to "teach" diversity training -- brainwashing -- at their universities????

Please tell us more about their "loyalty oaths." Do they have flag burning as part of the ceremony?"

If anyone ever wanted to have a concrete example of what futile, desperate attacks look like in print, this would be an excellent cut and paste.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Why always bring race into the issue? I know you heard the song I have played- if we lived like the song said we would not have any race problems.

James Cone founder of Black Liberation Theology is the one to call it that. If it was a church it would be just the bible. They state it on the front of the web page of Obama's home church. Sorry, I don't buy Obama's story. Oh, and btw we have KKK also- both are hate speech. You have read about Black Liberation Theology, can you tell me how it relates to Christianity? I can tell you how the KKK relates to Christianity- it doesn't. You see I will admit it, I am not too proud- it might have to do with I don't care what color you are.

Do you think Malcolm X is a good person to base your theology on?

click Colored People

The cut and paste thing, I would be glad to come over and show you how it's done. Denise is very good at it, I can do - it's simple.

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We Will Stand

"Why always bring race into the issue?"

That's a very good question, beeps, but you asked the wrong person!
Look up TWO posts and you can see that the person who first attempted to turn this into a racial discussion was none other than your fetus flushing buddy Dense!

Now, I'm wondering...will you apply the same standard of sanctimony against her that you apply to us libs? Or does your Southern Baptist pseudo-faith excuse hypocrisy as well as lying?
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Diagnosing Denise

Your hypocrisy is showing! You call me a "baby killer" and "fetus flusher" and then smugly JUDGE someone else. Your hatred for Southern Baptists is so typical of your hypocrisy, and lying is your specialty.

I didn't inject "race" since I've stated before that there's only one "race": the human race. I was using hyperbole to point out Obama's affinity for radicals: "white" (Ayers & Dohrn) and "black" (Ir-rev Wright). I deplore their actions (Ayers & Dohrn & Wright) and could care less about their skin color.

If Ayers were "black" & Wright "white," then I could have said,
"If Ayers & Dohrn were 'white,' they could use their KKK theology as an excuse...." Equal treatment for radicals.

David's mom said, when referring to Ayers, "Would Blacks be allowed to escape because of a judicial mistake?" Do only "blacks" go to jail?

Your calling Alan Keyes a "Housenegro™" is acceptable, I suppose?

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8-week baby (fetus = "young one") -- Only 30-32 more weeks to go!

“Women who are experiencing an unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy.” (Feminists for Life)

Abortion stops a baby's beating heart!

I will use no humor and absolutely no charm; just cold, unbiased fact.

IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEGRITY AT ALL:

You will address Denise's race baiting comments from 12:22 am, as I addressed them at 3:16 pm today.

You will explain to her that race has no appropriate place in a conversation of adults trying to work towards understanding.

No need to apologize to me for not noticing the quotes or the person whom I was quoting.

If you do not address DENISE as you attempted to address ME (for quoting HER words), that will speak volumes of the truth which you often try to share with us.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

By using the conditional "if" and the words "at all," you're saying that BPR's only sliver of integrity will be proven if she agrees with you that I'm "race baiting."

I'm willing to concede that you might interpret my comment that way, but that was not my intent.

I didn't inject "race" since I've stated before that there's only one "race": the human race. I was using hyperbole to point out Obama's affinity for radicals: "white" (Ayers & Dohrn) and "black" (Ir-rev Wright). I deplore their actions (Ayers & Dohrn & Wright) and could care less about their skin color.

If Ayers were "black" & Wright "white," then I could have said,
"If Ayers & Dohrn were 'white,' they could use their KKK theology as an excuse...." Equal treatment for radicals.

David's mom said, when referring to Ayers, "Would Blacks be allowed to escape because of a judicial mistake?" That was "race baiting" by your standards since her implication is that "whites" get off but "blacks" are punished.

I didn't hear you cry "race baiting" when David's mom accused Richard Hobbs of seeing all black women as looking alike when Richard was talking to Jeff & did not mention race at all or David's mom. "I know in your world 'we' all look alike. The Congresswomen who is married to an Ambassador of the Bahamas is Maxine Waters - not Sheila Jackson Lee. As usual, you spout a lot based on misinformation."

Your concept of the "truth" is rather cloudy since you continue to accuse me of calling your brother a "rat." So, maybe you should look at yourself before you JUDGE BPR & me. "IF YOU HAVE ANY INTEGRITY AT ALL," then you'd address Snif's calling me a "baby killer."

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8-week fetus ("young one") -- Only 30-32 more weeks to go!

“Women who are experiencing an unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy.” (Feminists for Life)

Did I read what David's mom said, and then scold YOU or RICHARD HOBBS for saying it?

Nooooooooooo.

Did BPR, the woman you said you would edit, Read your words, think I said them, and scold ME?

YEESSSSS!

If you don't see the HUGE difference between choosing not to comment on a post and scolding the wrong person in a post you CHOOSE TO COMMENT ON, there isn't much else I can say.

BPR was MOTIVATED to comment on words she read; words that were YOURS. Perhaps you might address this with her.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

BPR knows that I'm not racist; therefore, she assumed that you were the one stirring up trouble, not me. She saw the comparison to BLT, not my being racist.

YOU were the FIRST one to comment on my words, and BPR responded to your accusation. She didn't use the words "race baiting"; YOU did. She saw that YOU were the one reading my words through race-colored glasses and calling it to David's mom's attention. That's "the BIG difference." You didn't argue the FACTS; you DISTRACTED with charging me with "race baiting." Then $nif jumped on the band wagon. TYPICAL behavior for libs.

What have you recently said about your expert witness, the one you're relying on to prove that I made a "race baiting comment"?

You've called her "very clueless" and "disjointed and nonsensical" (the reason that I volunteered to be her editor ) and said that she doesn't have integrity. And now you want to use her as proof for YOUR charges against me?

Now, back to my question about why conservatives' comments are "race baiting" but libs' aren't.

David's mom said, when referring to Ayers, "Would Blacks be allowed to escape because of a judicial mistake?" (I wouldn't label her with such a divisive term but believe that it would be more productive to discuss with her why she made that comment. Do only "blacks" go to jail? What proof is there that these radicals escaped punishment because of their "race"?)

I deplore Ayers & Dohrn's actions and could care less about their skin color. Obama has an affinity for radicals; hence, the comparison to Black Liberation Theology, which advocates the following:

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us ["blacks"] and against white people," writes James Cone, whom the Ir-rev Wrong admires and bases his "preaching" on, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love."

I don't know if any "white" person has been killed in the name of BLT, but people died as a result of Ayers and the Weather Underground's bombs and anti-American activities. Both groups stir up hate and anti-American feelings and are the opposite of MLK's effective methods and what he taught (unless there's something about him that I'm unaware of).

Is Snif's calling Alan Keyes a "Housenegro™" acceptable?

"Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us ["blacks"] and against white people," writes James Cone, whom the Ir-rev Wrong admires and bases his "preaching" on, "then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community."

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

This is what some persons believe that BLT stands for. It is not what Martin Luther King taught; not what the ministers in my family teach; and it is disingenuous for anyone to label the teaching of the black church with this so-called definition of BLT. All pastors teach the gospel, as it is relevant to their congregations. Some Christian churches chose to worship in segregated modes in America. The result? Segregated congregations. The pastors of all of these congregations will preach the gospel as it is relevant to their flock. . .or their church will be empty. When a pastor of the past taught love and respect for all - except blacks - was that called White Liberation Theology? Maybe so. But we are past that now. The younger generation is showing that this is foolishness - and maybe we should recognize that 'the little child shall lead us'.

"BPR knows that I'm not racist; therefore, she assumed that you were the one stirring up trouble, not me. She saw the comparison to BLT, not my being racist."

With arguments like that, I can see how you:

1) Can argue two sides of a debate simultaneously "denigrating SBC's" and,

2) I can see why YOU referred to SBC "brainwashed congregations." As long as you satisfy yourself with these arguments, fine with me.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Enjoying your day attacking Denise with your Main friend.

You do talk about race.

I have told how many times Denise has not said anything that I don't agree with.

Your prejudice, against me and Denise, by the insulting comments constantly.

I find it sad that it does not bother you.

BTW you never told me what you think of BLT.

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We Will Stand

I find it sad when a person equates quoting someone exactly as "attacking" them.

I find it sad when a subject or sentence is considered offensive based on whether a political ally said it or someone else.

I find it sad that you will now have ALOT of difficulty attacking Barack through BLT; not because you were hurting Barack. He just picked up another X Clinton supporter today, Joe Andrew. No, I find it sad because you still have to craft out 28 Obama attacks this month for me to take the pool, and that is going to be difficult for you now.

My opinion on BLT? wheat; lightly toasted, with a splash of Tabasco. Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

You know something I can't figure out? Why are my fellow Christians silent on the FLDS church kids who are under age, pregnant, and giving birth right now? Kids all in state custody costing people their "pieces of the pie." Why is it that, besides my one blog, folks like you are more concerned with a has been preacher than an ongoing tragedy that will effect the lives of generations of kids and adults? Oh! I know! There is no political gain to be made.

"Why is it that, besides my one blog, folks like you are more concerned with a has been preacher than an ongoing tragedy that will effect the lives of generations of kids and adults? Oh! I know! There is no political gain to be made."

Hack, Hack, Hack.
It's obvious that the reality of Obama's campaign sinking like the Titanic is really getting the best of you.
It is a tragedy of what happened to those kids in the FLDS cult and we feel sad for them. You should start a blog about it instead of trying to deflect the Obama-Wright relationship issue.

We are not so concerned with the has-been as we are with the fact that Obama was a member of this racist, hate filled church for 20 years. We're concerned that he sat in the pews, Sunday after Sunday and ingested the vile tripe spewing from Wrights mouth for 20 years and did nothing. We're concerned that he knew one of the tenets of the church was to destroy whitey, and it didn't bother him. We're troubled that he would remain in a church that honors a racist, anti-semite like Calypso Louie Fara-con.

Yes, what happened to the kids in the cult is very troubling, and many lives will be affected for years to come. As bad as that situation is, it pales in comparison to the damage a man like Barack could do to our great country.

His type of "leadership" would destroy the country and affect every American.

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

The Perverse Worship of a man

Beav wrights.. I mean writes:

"It is a tragedy of what happened to those kids in the FLDS cult and we feel sad for them. You should start a blog about it instead of trying to deflect the Obama-Wright relationship issue."

Are you new here, because the old Beaver already knows I did start a blog on this polygamist sect of The LDS Church; that disavowed sect that still practices the original tenets of the LDS faith. Heck, Beav, you even commented on that blog. I would never know you are "sad" for these kids having kids, because all I've heard on this very significant story is...........................silence from my conservative buddies. All the while we see over 50 girls not of legal age having kids now or pregnant in custody. No, not at all news worthy. Not nearly as juicy as a has been wacko preacher that knows Barack well.
I asked a conservative buddy to quote one offensive, profane sentence that has actually come from the mouth of Barack Obama. I asked this question on a blog filled with McCain four letter words and horrible slurs towards his own wife. I'm still waiting for that reply, Beaver. Still waiting.

As for this, your fourth or fifth time telling us Obama is toast; actually, to quote you exactly,

"It's obvious that the reality of Obama's campaign sinking like the Titanic is really getting the best of you."

The last time you said that I noted that just because you wish something to be true will not make it fact. If I could wish things into reality our President never would have stumbled us into Iraq. And we'd still know how to spell Osama Bin Laden, because our focus would be there.

Last I checked, Beav:

1) Americans prefer to vote democratic

2) Barack is still leading the delegate race

3) Barack has set fund raising records that Clinton and McCain can't touch if they pooled their funds.

Titanic, Beav? I'll quote you from my blog on the FLDS church:

"You know, that's rich. Sometimes you just make me laugh."

Keep the Obama attacks coming if you have anything left. You tried his retired pastor. You tried domestic "terrorists" who sat on a board with Barack; people who were actually not convicted of anything. You got maximum mileage out of the "bitter" interview. Where to turn now?

Also keep in mind that our quivers are full of unspent arrows with John McCain written all over them (The Keating five, the war will be quick and easy flip flop, the 100 years of occupation quote, the tax cut flip flop, the documented out of control temper, the gas tax holiday that he won't fund, the "these jobs are leaving and I'm not too smart on economic stuff). Where does it end? He'll need your vigorous defense if he is going to stand a snow ball's chance.

" Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

FOXNEWS.COM HOME > U.S.

Jury Reaches Impasse in Utah Polygamist Leader's Trial

Monday, September 24, 2007

Jeffs is not charged with being a polygamist, and the three-year marriage between the cousins was monogamous. Still, polygamy casts a shadow over the case.

Polygamy advocates have long contended that the freedom to practice plural marriage as part of their religion is a civil rights matter. Members of FLDS, which broke away from the Mormon church, believe polygamy brings exaltation in heaven.

The Mormon church disavowed polygamy in 1890 and excommunicates members found to be practicing plural marriage.

That is your answer.

Now, straight answer is BLT Theology correct in it's teaching about the bible and of Jesus?

I know you have read everything I have put up, you know it's hate speech just like KKK but too proud to say it.

BTW the other post, another insult, trying to act like there's something wrong with me.

I am sure your Main friend will help you out here.

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I liked your post, it shows your real character again.

Is this what you teach at the institute where you work at?

I saw Bill O'Reilly say Professors are a dime a dozen.

He was speaking about Ayers and made that comment.

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I liked your post, it shows your real character again.
Is this what you teach at the institute where you work at?
I saw Bill O'Reilly say Professors are a dime a dozen.
He was speaking about Ayers and made that comment.

You seem to have posted this in the wrong thread.

Ah, well. If Bill O'Reilly thinks that "professors are a dime a dozen" then I suppose we should conclude that the stuff that occupies the minds of academics is just nonsense! So, he was speaking about Ayers, but you apparently intend it as a slam against me.

Yes, this does show my character. Indeed, it is what I passionately believe. Consider this passage from a speech that Charles Malik, former Lebanaese ambassador to the U.S. and the U.N., and past president of American University in Beirut, delivered at Wheaton College in 1980 at the inauguration of the Billy Graham Center for Evangelism.

This is a solemn occasion. I must be frank with you: the greatest danger besetting American Evangelical Christianity is the danger of anti intellectualism. The mind as to its greatest and deepest reaches is not cared for enough. This cannot take place apart from profound immersion for a period of years in the history of thought and the spirit. People are in a hurry to get out of the university and start earning money or serving the church or preaching the Gospel. They have no idea of the infinite value of spending years of leisure in conversing with the greatest minds and souls of the past, and thereby ripening and sharpening and enlarging their powers of thinking.

It will take a different spirit altogether to overcome this great danger of anti intellectualism. As an example only, I say this different spirit, so far as the domain of philosophy alone is concerned, which is the most important domain so far as thought and intellect are concerned, must see the tremendous value of spending a whole year doing nothing except poring intensely over the Republic or the Sophist of Plato, or two years over the Metaphysics or the Ethics of Aristotle, or three years over the City of God of Augustine. For the sake of greater effectiveness in witnessing to Jesus Christ Himself, as well as for their own sakes, the Evangelicals cannot afford to keep on living on the periphery of responsible intellectual existence.

Do you disagree?

It was just a joke about the Professors .

How many have you made about SBC and your Main Friend has made?

You could answer my questions that I asked about ACC, since Yardman wanted an answer about Bob Jones University. Do you know his answer also? I don't think either of us got a response to the questions.

Since you know alot of jokes, how about Church of Christ, Christian Church, Methodist, Presbyterian jokes do you have some of those?

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"The result is that the arena of creative thinking is abdicated and vacated to the enemy."

Herein lies part of the problem with the religious zealotry we both spoke about in our posts. If one group perceives the other as being "the enemy" there will always be distrust and hatred within our society, even to a point of violence.

I believe in what Malik is saying, regarding anti intellectualism, however, I would hope that evangelicals, and others for that matter, would pursue an education for the betterment of themselves and NOT to strike down their perceived 'enemy.'

Don't make too much of that language. Malik was literally a diplomat, and he knew much about diplomacy in many areas. It is partly metaphorical, as he is regarding the "arena of creative thinking" in the way that one might regard a battleground where one side has retreated and left the spoils to the enemy.

But there is an important point in it all. Philosophy professor Alvin Plantinga has noted that there are three worldviews that are in competition for the mind and heart of our culture: Judeo-Christian theism, atheistic naturalism, and relativistic postmodernism.

Naturalists and postmodernists operate with assumptions that are hostile--often openly hostile--to a theistic worldview. And, in this way, such worldviews are "the enemy" of whom Malik spoke. They are all mutually exclusive (though the postmodernists seem to have lost the capacity to think straight, and might not fully realize this).

(Written while waiting in the parking lot at WHole Foods on Ponce)

btw muddle, did you and Lynn go out for lobster that night??

I recently finished Sam Harris' 'Letter to a Christian Nation' (I know, I know, he's an atheist, but don't judge me, okay) and he makes some good points in his book. Could it be possible that one day evangelicals and atheists stand shoulder to shoulder to stand up against radical Islam and terrorism in the name of God/Allah?

That is a true possibility...someday....that non-believers and Christians/evangelicals band together to protect against extremism.

We need to see each other as comrades and NOT the enemy. Only in a perfect world, right?

Yes, we did have lobster for our anniversary. We followed Cyclist's advice and got a couple of good-sized tails at the Village Seafood Something Something in PTC off of 54. It was expensive but good. I butterflied and grilled them with butter, garlic and lime, alongside a good cut of steak. The weather was gorgeous, and we had a candlelight dinner on the back deck. Nice evening.

I haven't read Harris' book yet, but need to. I've read Dawkins' The God Delusion and Dennett's Breaking the Spell. I actually enjoy reading Dennett. The reason is that his work tends not to be as "reactionary." He's largely in the business of offering a positive defense of a naturalistic worldview, and I find it helpful to read someone who is capable of thinking it all through.

I have browsed Hitchens' God Is Not Great, and, in doing so, noted that he, like Dawkins, is apparently unfamiliar with the work of some of the more careful theistic philosophers. I suspect the same of Harris. It makes it all too easy when the form of religion that you are attacking is the sort that I describe in my blog, "On Being a Jackass for Jesus.")

I've mentioned here before that my old friend, John Loftus, who is a preacher-turned-atheist, has a new book coming out on Prometheus: Why I Became an Atheist (or something like that). I've read parts of the manuscript that he has sent me. The virtue of John's book--which will likely do quite well, as there seems to be a market for such stuff--is that he is very familiar with the work of Christian philosophers and theologians, and thus interacts directly with them.

Frankly, I'm very sad for my friend. When he tells me that his abandonment of his Christian faith has given him a newfound freedom, I can only think that it is merely a freedom from a form of Christianity--a rather rigid variety of fundamentalism--that was invalid in the first place.

As for your question about atheists and Christians joining forces against Islamic extremists, I note that Christopher Hitchens defends the use of the term "Islamo-Fascism" as used by David Horowitz and others. As they say, philosophy makes for strange bedfellows. So does war.

"...his abandonment of his Christian faith has given him a newfound freedom,..."

I've found that same freedom, so I can relate to what Mr. Loftus is saying. And to further clarify, my personal form of Christianity, when I was a believer, was not the 'rigid' variety that you described in your post regarding Loftus' deconversion.

The deconversion process resulting in a sense of freedom, whether one aspired to rigid fundamentalism or free-form Presbyterianism for example, seems to be the same.

The negative aspects of deconverting, however, can be a lonely and painful process, especially in a devoutly Christian environment (i.e. Fayette County, bible belt south).

But it is ironic that it was this very environment that pushed me to further deconvert, after 9/11, over the past few years of living here. Maybe Mr. Loftus can explain that one to me??

btw - I'll pick up Loftus' book(s). I found some info on him and his writings sound inspiring to me.

Is this him:

John W. Loftus

Yes, that's John.

He and I were classmates at Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, where we both studied under Christian philosopher William Lane Craig.
John has since gone over to the "Dark Side."

Here is one dynamic that I think is involved at least in John's sense of "freedom." When he harbored Christian convictions, he had, well, convictions. There was a positive worldview that he felt it his duty--particularly as a budding Christian apologist--to defend. That can be a rather daunting and precarious position to be in, as, in principle, you set yourself up to take all comers. Once he abandoned that faith for atheism, he found that, in most cases, his main concern was not defensivge but offensive. That is, he simply had to wait for the theist to venture some positive argument on behalf of theism, and then set about the process of picking apart that argument.

Atheists typically assume that there is a "presumption" in favor of atheism (as the former atheist, Anthony Flew, once argued), which means that the default setting for any rational person is atheistic, and so it is up to the theist to show why anyone should move from that default setting.

The nice thing about this is that it allows atheists like John to assume the strategy of the moray eel--simply backing into a cubby and waiting for unsuspecting theists to swim by.

Ah! No need to defend a positive view!

For the record, I am a Christian to my very marrow (though, of course, our friend BPR, who sees though me, would presumably beg to differ). I see everything from the perspective of a Christian worldview, and, in some ways, cannot help myself in this respect. But I find that worldview quite "freeing." (As Jesus said, "The truth shall make you free"!) Indeed, it is a worldview that frees me to believe things deemed quite impossible on my friend's materialistic worldview.

Have a good day, I'm off to teach values and morals to kids, too bad some adults act like the 4 year olds I teach. To think about it they are worse, you can talk to them about being respectful and they get it.

It's the Obama and being a Christian they don't like. Why is that Muddle?

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The topic is "race baiting," which is a subjective judgment since you can't know my thoughts. I explained my reasoning, and you can accept or reject it. But you can only speculate and bring up other issues as distractions. Are you sure that you're not a secret Hillary supporter?

Is Snif's calling Alan Keyes a "Housenegro™" acceptable?

fungible it is in your mind; trade a little race-baiting for mis attribution? No. You know good and well this string began when BPR, a woman you will be quite busy editing for today, mistook me quoting your words for me uttering those words. YOU WERE THE FIRST PERSON to mention race at all in that thread. Time and date stamps don't change as much as your opinion does over whether name calling is "maligning" or "political satire."

Sometimes, Denise, I honestly think you may have two distinct, interdependent personalities at war with each other. I'm not criticizing. I honestly think that is the only way you can support the SBC in one breath, and speak of "brainwashed [SBC] congregations" and closing SBC Seminaries the next. That is the only way I see that you can call someone a name, and in the same post criticize name calling. That is the only way you can scold someone for answering a post meant for another person, all the while answering another person's post yourself. Either way, it is for you to deal with. And I wish you great success. I'm pulling for both of you.

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

You have to admit Ayers statment in the NYTimes Sept. 11 2001 was horrible...

So no one knows the 2 dogs??

If I didn't have so many I would help you.....call the rescue groups....they are short of foster homes, but they will help you get them adopted if you will be foster parents for awhile. Can you take them to Petsmart on Sat. and Sundays?? The rescue groups will investigate the people wanting to adopt.

I was outside all day today, beautiful wasn't it??

This has to do with Denise trying to inject race into this (for some strange reason) and BPR cluelessly assigning the comments to me

No word on dog owners yet. I'll definitely write when I find out. They are awesome animals. Wish I had space for 'em.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

I see a few of your buddy on, so I am going let you all have at it.

The only thing I see is about Black Liberation Theology- well Hack I believe it is not of God. You have read it, tell me what it is about?

That's like me saying the KKK is correct, they are not-

This has nothing to do with race, BLT, KKK, being friends with Ayers is wrong- yeah the Ayers on 9-11 saying he wasn't sorry and wished they had done more. Yeah, good company.

I told you what I think - you tell me what you think about Black Liberation Theology, KKK and Ayers.

Stop the SBC that won't get me into heaven, I have accepted Jesus. Talking about SBC does not bother me, trying to sound nice but insulting is what bothers me.

Obama does not have a good track record with his friends. Before you say it, I don't care for the other two candidates.

You can read about James Comes in my post below- the church where Obama attends and Mr. Comes started Black Liberation Theology.

Not all black church do this- btw I have alot of black friends some go to just black churches- yes Hack I have gone with them and I did not hear the hate speech that Black Liberation Theology has said.

So, not all black churches area BLT. You would know it- it's plain to see.

Some of my friends go to a mixed race church. Since I don't see color that's the kind of church I go to.

I don't see your good buddy Sniffles attacking the Christian Church, nor have I done it. I won't.

I am not clueless.

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Question:

How does a person know they have lost situational awareness?

Answer:

When they REGAIN IT

I am afraid you have become very clueless with respect to who said what when and what points you are making to whom.

Get your hubby to read through with you checking for dates and times and quotation marks. Hopefully it will all become crystal clear with a bit of help.

Good luck.

Kevin "Hack" King

Let my hubby read it, oh, I am not smart enough to comprehend? For your information my husband reads all of that is posted - he does not post- he says it's a waste of his time. Plus the way some speak to one another he does not care for. Believe me Hack, my husband is not an idiot.

My hubby read it and agrees with me, I was talking about a different situation and you turned it into a complete different topic. He also agrees with the response I gave you. Read it and comprehend it- I gave you my answer. I don't have a problem with what Denise said, plus that is not what I was even talking about. So, does that make us both idiots?

You never did answer my questions- could you please go back and answer them, I answered yours.

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Obama sat on a board with a man who has been tried for a bombing when Obama was 8 years old. Should everyone on that Board be accused of agreeing with Ayers purpose for killing? Is it Obama's fault that our judicial system allowed avowed 'terrorists' to escape 'justice'? (Would Blacks be allowed to escape because of a judicial mistake?) Diversity Training, if correctly implemented is not brainwashing - unlike the right-wing media and Denise - who does an outstanding job of making sure we don't 'miss' the other side of 'truth'. Saul killed many Christians - but was accepted by Jesus when he changed his ways - and became the 'leader' Paul. If there was no 'oppression' in our world - there would be no need for 'liberation'. Oppression knows no color - and liberation knows no color. But - that's beyond the comprehension of brainwashed 'right wingers'.

O.K. David's Mom, who in America is being "oppressed" (besides illegal alien's, but they need to be oppressed right back to Mexico),
and who needs to be liberated.

The benefits of "Diversity" have yet to be proven.

The Myth of Diversity

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When exit polls show that 1 in 5 voters for Clinton in PA said race is a factor, this points to a continuing problem in our society. Deny it all you want, but like global climate change, it continues to erode our planet.
"oppressed right back to Mexico" I love that one. What about the illegals from Honduras, Nicaragua, Russia, China, and the mulitude of other nations? Do they all just look alike to you Beav?
Our economy depends upon these workers, and mark my words, driving them out whilst in the middle of a recession will prove to have drastic consequences for our economy.

The Criminal Illegal Aliens have already and continue to have drastic negative effects on our economy. These criminals leach off of our infrastructure, get drunk and kill American Citizens on our roads and highways, depress the economy by driving down wages, overcrowd our schools, etc., etc. It just goes on and on.

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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Obama sat on Ayers board. The point is the other people are not running for President. Obamas relationship continued after 9-11 with Ayers.

Click Just Friends

Wow, they don't exchange ideas on a regular basis-

9-11- Ayers said I don't regret setting bombs I think that we didn't do enough.

Obamas one of his campaigns was held at Ayers house.

I think Obama is older than 8 now. Does he want this kind of company? Sorry, I don't want a President that are friends with someone that wants to bomb us.

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Already addressed that, beeps! Scroll down or click this Link

I understand why your granny panties are in a wad: Obama served on a charity dedicated to wipe out poverty. "Charity", of course, is a sin to Southern Baptists such as yourself who worship hoarding and greed, and to wipe out poverty would wipe out poor ignorant masses that make up the vast majority of Southern Baptist congregations!

No wonder you dislike Obama so much! He actually tries to follow Christ's teachings, as opposed to people like you who talk a good game but never dirty your hands helping the poor, healing the sick, etc, etc.
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Your contempt knows no bounds, does it? You JUDGE when you don't know anything and then LIE to convince yourself that you're the righteous one.

Obama was paid for his "charity" work (a paid directorship position at the Woods Foundation), and he ignored his slum lord friend's dilapidated housing projects when he was a state senator and pretending to care for the poor. It's been only very recently that Obama has given to charity (his church, the one that bought Ir-rev Wrong that expensive house).

See “Obama's Faustian Bargain with Antoin 'Tony' Rezko” at HuffPo.

“For Obama, Charity Really Began in the U.S. Senate"

"Giving, service and compassion are recurrent themes on the campaign trail for Sen. Barack Obama, but the Democratic presidential contender has only recently dug deep into his own pockets to support charitable causes.

"Obama has enjoyed a robust household income throughout his political career in the Illinois Senate and the U.S. Senate. But for most of that time he has reported comparatively little by national standards in charitable contributions on his tax returns, records released by Obama show."

Saying "Are you OK? Is there an EMT in the house?" doesn't qualify as "healing the sick." I know you feel that Obama's your messiah, but he really can't perform miracles. He is a good illusionist, though.

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“Women who are experiencing an unplanned pregnancy also deserve unplanned joy.” (Feminists for Life)

Abortion stops a BABY's beating heart!

Obama sat on a board with someone who did something terrible when Obama was 8 years old?

Puleeeeze...

John Green, McCain’s chief liaison to Congress, and Wayne Berman, his national finance co-chairman, billed almost a million dollars in lobbying fees Ameriquest Mortgage which cheated tens of thousands of homeowners out of millions of dollars. Ameriquest was forced to settle suits with 49 states for $325 million. More than 13,680 New York homeowners were involved in the lawsuits.

McCain campaign manager is Rick Davis a telecommunications lobbyist.

McCain's national finance co-chairman is Thomas Loeffler who recently helped Europe's Airbus consortium land a deal for Air Force tankers.

McCain campaign’s chief foreign policy aide is Randy Scheunemann who was the founder of the crazed right-wing Committee for the Liberation of Iraq and was an enthusiastic supporter of Ahmad Chalabi.

Another one of McCain’s foreign policy advisers is Robert Kagan who the Hoover Institution identifies as a leader of the neoconservative vision that defined President Bush’s foreign policy, most notably the disastrous decision to go to war in Iraq.

Another of McCain’s foreign policy advisers is nut job John Bolton who almost single handedly allowed the North Koreans to develop nuclear weapons.

And let us not forget Dr. Juan Hernandez, McCain Hispanic outreach director who famously said: “We must not only have a free flow of goods and services, but also start working for a free flow of people.”

Bring it on.

"Oppression knows no color - and liberation knows no color. But - that's beyond the comprehension of brainwashed 'right wingers'."

Why am I here doing your light work? You gots this. You GOTS this!

Have a great day!

Kevin "Hack" King
(anyone want two dogs???)

Black Liberation Theology has color. They state it.

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One of the key questions for a president is where do you draw your team from? Who are your friends? What and who influenced you?

We know that indicted and in-the-dock now Tony Rezko influenced Barack Obama --Rezko is Obama's mentor and financier, enabling the not-yet-wealthy Obamas to buy a house.

We know Jeremiah Wright was Obama's mentor and pastor influenced Obama, and despite the many attempts by Obama to rewrite his own history, the friendship between Obama and Wright is deep and significant.

So now we come to Ayers. So, what does Obama think of this past and its significance for the present? More critically, what do mainstream American voters think?

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Barack Obama is the personification of a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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