PTC OKs sewer water for sports fields

Fri, 04/18/2008 - 3:16pm
By: John Munford

Environmentalist says kids will be exposed to viruses

Peachtree City has entered a contract with the city’s Water and Sewer Authority to irrigate fields with treated sewage at the city’s Baseball and Soccer Complex on Ga. Highway 74 south.

The motion was approved unanimously Thursday night over the objection of local environmentalist Dennis Chase, who said the process will endanger the children playing on those fields. Chase said the city’s system won’t adequately kill viruses in the water before its applied to the fields. But council members expressed confidence that the system was safe.

The water, classified as “urban re-use,” is unfit for drinking but Georgia law allows it to be reused for irrigation purposes as long as it meets treatment criteria. The state allows such water to be used for irrigation purposes regardless of the drought-imposed watering regulations.

Chase said he felt the city’s decision to adopt the system bordered on “negligence” and that he would testify as a witness should a class-action lawsuit be filed as a result of future problems with the irrigation system “because I believe with your decision you are putting your children at risk.”

Mayor Harold Logsdon told Chase that the city has done its research on cities that also use treated sewage to irrigate sports fields. He also noted that council members Cyndi Plunkett and Doug Sturbaum have children who play on the city’s sports fields. Plunkett said she wants the city to keep a close eye on the program and evaluate it after the first four months. She also said the city needed to take further steps to educate the public about the process.

The contract calls for WASA to pump the treated sewage to a holding pond adjacent to the complex. Previously the city pumped water directly from Line Creek into the pond for irrigation purposes but that stopped last year when the latest level of drought restrictions went into effect. Chase said the holding pond would not allow for the water to be in the sunlight for five days, which is necessary to kill the viruses.

Under the contract, WASA will build the infrastructure to get the water to the city holding pond, and the city will be responsible for maintaining the rest of the irrigation system and also for placing signs on the property warning the public that non-potable water is used for irrigating the fields. The contract with WASA will cost the city roughly $3,000 a year to irrigate the fields.

The City Council voted earlier this year to make the move. Thursday night’s motion merely formalized the agreement in a contract between the city and WASA.

The contract calls for WASA to immediately notify the city should the water quality dip in violation of state standards.

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buZZard's picture
Submitted by buZZard on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 10:44pm.

The Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Tank
A best seller in 1978


Submitted by wildcat on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 12:54pm.

When is this supposed to start? I guess the kids will have to be careful about putting their water bottles and mouth pieces on the grass. The story states that the mayor did research on cities that also use treated sewage to irrigate sports fields....does anyone know what cities? It would be interesting to hear what parents from said cities have to say.

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 12:56pm.

Where do you think the post-treatment wastewater goes?

Here's a clue:
http://www.peachtree-city.org/index.asp?NID=349


Submitted by concerned SHME ... on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 12:41pm.

I can not beleive that Peachtree City would risk the health of our children this way! I have 2 boys who have both played soccer and baseball in PTC. From now on, we will go to Fayetteville or Brooks to play. My children's health is much more important than the almighty dollar. Whoever approved this should be asshamed of themselves. Parents need to protest this decision and boycott PTC sports!!!

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Submitted by shadowalker on Tue, 04/29/2008 - 12:01pm.

Your not to bright are you, you people think they would just take someones word about this being safe or not
your bath room is just as dirty

most sewer plants dump that same water into streams and that filters the remaining dirty water.

you drive down Mcdonnough road and they have spray fields where sewage is pumped to finish treating the water

maybe you should check to see where the water goes now

shadowalker


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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 12:50pm.

Is your children's health important enough for you to do actual resarch or will emotionally responding to a blurb in an amateur local paper suffice?


Submitted by concerned SHME ... on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 1:18pm.

I have been following this story for months and researching what the EPA and other agencies have to say. Apparently, about 98% of the bacteria can be killed but NONE of the viruses. Thus, when you get kids rolling around in the grass with cuts or scrapes, water bottle mouthpieces laying on the grass, etc. you definitely have a potential for health risks. I'm sorry that you have no emotion, but I still say my kids are more important and I can't beleive PTC actually approved this with all the EPA data against it! I guess they care more about the money than the health of the kids!!!

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 1:22pm.

So ... you knew that post-treatment wastewater was being dischraged into the very Line Creek that the city had been pumping from to water the fields all this time?

Get it?

For all intents a purposes, they were playing on it all along.

This is from the PTC city government website:

Rockaway WWTF
Located at 1127 Hwy 74 South

Rockaway plant - a Sequencing Batch Reactor Plant - is designed to treat four million gallons per day. All of the treatment processes take place in one tank. The sequences are coordinated through a Programmable Logic Controller. After the aeration/mixing, settling and decant phases, the effluent is filtered and disinfected with Ultra Violet Light. The discharge flows into Line Creek. See below for a process flow diagram.

So ... if they were already discharging INTO Line Creek and pulling FROM Line Creek ... well, it really does make your alarmism look rather silly and uninformed.

And oh yeah, amateur or not, I've run a POTW in my day.


Submitted by concerned SHME ... on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 1:31pm.

You can try to justify it however you want, but there is NO way that watering baseball fields and soccer fields that children play on with treated sewage water is acceptable!

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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 1:42pm.

Look at the flow diagram for a PTC POTW:

http://www.peachtree-city.org/images/pages/N349/image001.jpg

Clearly you can see that your dreaded, scary poo water is being discharged into Line Creek after treatment.

Your poo water is in Line Creek. Get it?

The article said that the city HAD been pumping water out of Line Creek to water the fields.

Some of it evaporates too and ends up God-knows-where. Good luck tracking all that down. Guess what ... your children end up playing baseball on some of it somewhere down the line in the water cycle.

But why listen to reason when you can get all emotional over some scare story dreamed up by an "environmentalist" that evidently didn't realize PTC discharges post-treatment wastewater to Line Creek.


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Submitted by FourLeggedWord on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 8:16pm.

The water taken directly from the waste treatment center is NOT the same as the water taken from Line Creek, even though it eventually ends up there anyway.
To quote Dennis Chase from an interview on "The Ben Show,"
"...when the sewage effluent goes through a still wetland pond for three to four days, by the time the water comes out the other end, the viruses are all gone. What happens is, the viruses die in open water, but it has to be over a period of several days."

...whereas the viruses from the treated sewage remain alive for two to three weeks when applied to the fields.

So it's not safe.
Is there anything we can do?


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Submitted by FourLeggedWord on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 6:10pm.

Your point is made, but please be civil. The anonymity of the internet doesn't excuse rudeness.
Perhaps the water-saving measure is benign to the health of our children. But the concern was certainly valid, especially if brought up by someone so experienced and knowledgeable as Dennis Chase. He's no "'environmentalist'" to dream up false concerns. He was a fish and wildlife biologist with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife service for over 26 years. And he's still working with the state's environmental conscience over water concerns, volunteering with Fayette County's Line Creek Association. My personal experience with him is through the McIntosh Adopt-A-Stream organization, to which he lends his services, training volunteers and reviewing data collected by the students.
So if he says it's a problem, I'm willing to take a second look.


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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 10:21pm.

Is usually many times cleaner than the normal water pumped directly out of a river or creek. Water away.

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The Sissy And The Word Defined


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Submitted by carbonunit52 on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 1:36pm.

In Florida treated wastewater is used to water golf courses, which I find appropriate, since they are a waste of resources in the first place.


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Submitted by Evil Elvis on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 12:38pm.

You don't think we do deep well injections, do you? Peruse any Design & Operation plan for any discharge permitted POTW in Georgia.

Here's a hint: It's ok to discharge to a river or creek, but not ok to water an athletic field with? What if -- gasp -- they pumped water out of the same creek post-treatment wastewater was discharged into?

Superstitious fools. Come on over and water my lawn with it.

Maybe learn a little something about phys chem and biological processes.

The answer, of course, is that PTC discharges post-treatment wastewater into ... LINE CREEK.

Irony?


Submitted by Next_ on Mon, 04/21/2008 - 12:22pm.

We have a watering ban currently. Does anyone have any idea how this will effect the playing surfaces in not only PTC but GA? If we didnt pass this the fields would have been closed. Other fields in PTC will be closed if a ban is not lifted. How will this effect things....Limiting registration numbers in all sports due to lack of field space (yes sports will use/share the treated fields)

Ban PTC sports.....Check the other areas and you maybe suprised to find out they are looking at any and all options as well. May leagues in GA are shutting down or praying for a lifted ban.

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