3-inch blade derails FCHS football senior

Tue, 01/10/2006 - 5:25pm
By: John Munford

Andy Petty
Andy Petty thought he was doing the right thing by allowing administrators at Fayette County High School to search his car in late October.

School officials were looking for a gun that was allegedly brought to school by one of Petty’s friends, to whom Petty had given a ride to school that day.

No gun was found, but the search turned up a small knife with a three-inch blade in Petty’s car, and he admitted it was his, Petty said.

That was enough to get Petty, 17, of Fayetteville arrested for possession of a weapon on campus.

Petty was ordered by Principal Charles Warr to attend Fayette County Alternative School for what is essentially the rest of his academic career; he will finish attaining his credits next month.

A stand-out Tiger football player, Petty won’t be allowed to graduate with the rest of the Class of 2006, as he is banned from entering the FCHS campus, even for extracurricular activities.

Petty’s parents, Curtis and Angie, now regret not insisting on a tribunal hearing to determine their son’s punishment instead of accepting Warr’s recommendation.

They said school officials told them Dr. Warr would recommend to a tribunal that Petty be suspended from school for a semester, and Angie Petty said she didn’t want that to happen since it would stall her son’s education, slowing his entry to college.

Petty said he’ll have to spend some of his hard-earned money on an attorney to battle the criminal charge, which he hopes will be thrown out of court. After all, the only reason the knife was found is because school officials were looking for the alleged gun, and he wasn’t accused of bringing the gun to school.

Petty estimates the attorney will cost $1,500, or more. He never even threatened to hurt anybody with the knife, he added.

Schools spokesperson Melinda Berry-Dreisbach says the system doesn’t use a “zero tolerance” weapons policy but once an item has been found that meets the definition of a weapon under Georgia law, “the principal’s hands are basically tied.”

FCHS Principal Dr. Charles Warr declined a request for an interview about Petty’s case. According to the student conduct code for Fayette County schools, the penalty for possession of a weapon on school campus can range from suspension to permanent expulsion.

The most embarrassing part of the whole incident, Petty said, was when he was being led off campus in handcuffs and the rumors it spawned at school.

“Out of the corner of my eye, I saw one of my football coaches, and he had a look in his eye like, ‘What are you doing?’” Petty said.

“I’m wondering, am I going to jail for a pocket knife? Are you serious?” Petty said.

Meanwhile, Petty’s reputation has taken a hit at school, he said.

“Certain people don’t want to talk to me anymore,” Petty said.

His mom had the opposite reaction when she came to the Fayette County Jail to bail out her son.

“I just hugged him and told him I was proud of him,” Angie Petty said. When he asked why, she replied: “Because you stood up and told the truth.”

Andy Petty says he keeps the knife in his car because he needs it to open the door to the parking lot kiosk at his job in downtown Atlanta. The door’s lock is broken and the knife is the only way he can get in, he said.

Petty said he has only been in minor trouble at school twice before, and one of those issues had to do with a misunderstanding related to paperwork he tried to file to exempt an exam; he said he was falsely accused of forging the document. The other incident involved minor horseplay in the lunchroom, his mother said.

Petty has straight As in all his classes except for Web page design.

Curtis Petty said he wished Dr. Warr had evaluated his son’s case before reporting him to authorities, judging the merit of Andy’s work at the school.

“I’d have been on Dr. Warr’s side if it had been in his pocket,” Curtis Petty said of the knife.

Although Petty is enrolled at the Alternative School now, his diploma will only say Fayette County High School, Berry-Dreisbach said. But Petty and his parents worry about the reference to the alternative school on his transcripts, which will affect his chances to get into college.

Furman University and Valdosta State University are interested in Petty, particularly given his status on the football field, where he was one of the Tigers’ top defenders this past season; he led the team in tackles at strong safety. But Petty has his heart set on attending Georgia State University and getting a business degree.

Ultimately, he wants to be a music producer.

Petty said he understands why his car was searched, and he says it’s the school’s duty to protect everyone from a potential Columbine incident, referring to the Colorado high school where several students went on a deadly shooting rampage several years ago.

But Petty thinks in this case he shouldn’t be held accountable for such a small mistake, with such a small knife.

“I’ve never even threatened anybody,” he said.

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Submitted by Daniel Ross on Mon, 01/16/2006 - 6:57pm.

1) First of all, Voice of Fayette made a mistake when stating that Petty's parents should have sat him down and say "Son, lets look at the rules at Sandy Creek." It's an honest mistake

2) Second, the Zero Tolerance Policy has been put into effect by the Fayette County School System in order to prevent a disaster like a school shooting, of which there have been too many in this country. When this policy is enforced, the students which are sucumbed to the consequences of their actions by bringing a weapon which has been banned from the schools. Many students have been prosecuted by multiple administrations of multiple schools for having banned objects with them or inside of their cars (if they have them) at school. If a school's administrators found a weapon on a person and then went back to their offices to debate over whether they should detain them or not, the student with the weapon, if they had bad intentions with said weapon, could easily obtain their goal of hurting people. Just because a student has a high ranking in their class or is a star athlete or an excellent musician/artist/thespian doesn't mean that the law doesn't apply to them the same as it would to a normal 4-year student (yes: some students take more/less time to finish high school).

3) This brings me to my third point: Athletes should not receive separate treatment than any other student in the school. As a proud 3-year member of the Sandy Creek Patriot Marching Band, I hate the preferential treatment athletes receive. Luckily, the administrators at Sandy Creek rarely illustrate said treatment. This whole Petty incident shows those in this county who are so wrapped up in the athletes and their future that they would overlook the athletes' actions in a heartbeat if they needed to. In the past, when Sandy Creek had 2 undefeated football seasons, sure the football players were highly regarded in school but it didn't stop teachers from restricting them from playing if their grades were too low or to give them detention if they had done something wrong. I believe that other schools in the county don't have the qualities of Sandy Creek which makes it so great to be a part of, especially for students. The Class of 2007 recently passed the Georgia High School Graduation Writing Test this past fall with the highest scores in the county, edging out Starr's Mill by one point (539 to 538). This would not have been possible had we not received the excellent teaching from the teachers (I say we because i am a proud member of the SCHS Class of 2007). The Classes behind us now have to take a pretest in 10th grade in order to secure the excellence the Class of '07 brought. We look forward to the possibility of excelling on the remaining portion of the Graduation Test and the EOCTs and the AP Tests at the end of the semester. Please support all the students you know and don't let any student receive a different kind of treatment for another. A felony is a felony no matter who is charged with it. The law is unbiased. People, however, are not. Once more, other readers have brought in partisianship into this debate while the real question is Why are we letting athletes receive special treatment from the law? The answer: because people like the fame athletes bring to a school. Sure, I know from this past marching band season that reputations fly fast to other schools. I remember one marcher at the LaFayette Marching Classic stating "Oh great, there's Sandy Creek. We're going to lose." THey were referring to the two past competitions we had been to. The first we had won first in class AAA and the second we had won Grand Champion overall (the first in Sandy Creek's 15 years). In the end, the FCHS administration correctly applied the BoE's rules accurately in the case of Andy Petty.

Submitted by JWALL on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 11:23am.

This is injust! He must be a great guy. Opting college football and all the fame that comes with that for a business degree from GA State. State doesn't even have a football team. This a guy who is making A's and looking forward to his future Career in Business. I don't know him but I'm for him.

It's through our struggles we become great!

Submitted by spideymann on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 6:09am.

All parents of high schoolers I have spoken with agree with me that this is an example of overzealousness on the part of the school. Someone with some common sense needs to rewrite the policy to allow for situations such as this, where someone may use something in their work, and to give the principal room for him/her to use their discretion. Didn't this happen a few years ago with another Fayette High student? I don't personally know anyone involved in this incident but if he is a straight A, good student it seems way too harsh a punishment. Are they trying to ruin his life?

Submitted by jlyrgr on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 11:50am.

spideymann, you must know andy. how is this overzealousness? first place, he seems like such a great guy...yeah right. Obviously he is associating with the wrong people if the administration think his friends carry guns to school. Football players always get better treatment. The whole knife for work thing sounds like a line to me. The administration is right. He should be criminaly charged with having a waepon on school grounds... WHICH IS A FELONY!!!!! anyone else would have. it just goes to show how currupt they actually are over there at fayette high. Anyone not on an academic team would have had the book thrown at them. 3 strikes your out. This hoodlum should have been locked up with a felony charge! THIS KID IS ALRADY GETTING SPECIAL TREATMENT!!!!!!

Submitted by Stroke on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 8:43am.

you sure are not a very jolly chap

Submitted by hofflerb on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 7:45pm.

Think before you go on another rant and jumping to conclusions and stereotypes. First of all, do you even know Andy Petty? If not, then you have no reason to jump all over him like this. Tell me, have you attended Fayette High? Do you know whether they really give football players special treatment, or are you just pulling that out of the sky? I certainly didn't get any special treatment when I played High school football, and neither did anyone else on the team. Also, you say he isn't a good person because the "corrupt" administration "thinks" his friends carry guns? If the administration is so corrupt as you say it is, how can you then say they are right and trust their intent to criminally charge him? Also, he should not associate with those friends you say? What if he was keeping these "hooligans" who supposedly carry guns out of deeper trouble and he was trying to be a positive influence? You think that wouldn't be a great friend? Also, the knife for work is completely reasonable. I have known many people who have been told by their managers to use things such as a kinfe or credit card to open doors for work.
Having a knife in your car by accident is quite normal anywhere. Many kids in the high schools I once attended had lots of even larger hunting knives and even rifles, but nobody is threatened by them. You are completelty overeacting to this situation. How would you fell if we detained your kid for saying the word "bomb" in school, such as "I bombed that test"? You have to look at the situation and the intent of the person. As much as you don't wnat to believe it, I am pretty sure Andy did not intend to break a law or bring any harm to anyone.

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Submitted by Joey Jamokes on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 9:13am.

HofflerB demonstrates that liberal, whiney attitude that we ought to see "how people feel" and "look at the criminal's experience." HofflerB is probably a big fan of the "black rage" criminal lawyer defense.

I don't don't give a darn what Andy Petty intended. I don't care who he is and I don't care about his achievements, social standing, skin color, money or popularity. That is all totally irrelevent.

We live in a different world after 9-11. The rules changed. A drunk at an airport terminal gate saying "Hey, guys, I was only joking when I said I got a bomb" ought not be surprised when he gets slammed to the tarmac and handcuffed. And here would come HofflerB saying that the drunk's alcoholism was a disease and it wasn't his fault. And, oh yeah, its ok to charge the airport security checkin because I am trying to catch a flight to the Sugar Bowl and I am a season ticket holder.

The rules are the rules, they should be same for everyone and it is irrelevent what Andy Petty thought or who he is.

HofflerB and liberal intelligentsia want to examine how people feel and have the taxpayers hire lawyers for high school students who think their rights are violated in a talent show when they finished last because they stink and not because of their "special circumstances". It is BS to bring in who he is. What if the perpetrator was a nondescript, loner? HofflerB would say "Well, he ain't on the football team and he ain't special so pound him hard."


Submitted by jlyrgr on Thu, 01/12/2006 - 10:20am.

yea that about sums it up. liberals. Sad

Submitted by jlyrgr on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 10:46pm.

First I am not jumping all over anyone.

Bringing knife onto school grounds (accident or not) is a felony - at every school in GA.

Yes I attended fayette high.

I can think of numerous cases of football players gettin into (and out of easily) trouble.

I did not say this man was not a good person because of his friends. Hang out with the thugs at school and people will think the same of you, thats just how it works.

What kind of managers tells their employees to use a "knife or credit card" to open doors at work? sounds sketchy to me, but whatever.

Im sure people at the high schools you once attended DID in fact have rifles or lager knives, but the times have changed. People bring weapons to school to hurt other now days.

Saying "i bombed a test" is not a felony, and it not posted ALL over fayette high. However, bringing a knife is.

Im sure andy didnt intend to break the law, but the facts are the fact. He commited a felony when he drove onto the school grounds.

Hofflerb, you need to think before speaking. did YOU go to fayette high? i personally know of at least 5 people who were kicked out of fayette high for different things. Things as "little" as having a pocket knife. I didnt read about them in the citizen. where was their support? This man did the crime, he should have to do the time.

Submitted by spideymann on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 12:09pm.

No, I really don't know him and I would feel the same way if he didn't play a sport. Yeah, getting hauled off to jail in handcuffs is "REAL SPECIAL TREATMENT" for having a pocket knife!!!!!!!!

Submitted by jlyrgr on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 12:51pm.

This is a FELONY charge! how is it not special treatment. They knew they were getting off easy thats why they waived their tribunal, where they very well could have explained it was for work, then the officials very well might have dropped the charges if they found that he was no threat and the knife acutally was there for his work. Why would someone "SO INNOCENT" waive their only chance to explain themselves and their only chance to maybe have the charges dropped?

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Submitted by John Munford on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 2:33pm.

Question from JollyRoger: Why would someone "SO INNOCENT" waive their only chance to explain themselves and their only chance to maybe have the charges dropped?

The answer below:
(from the story)
They said school officials told them Dr. Warr would recommend to a tribunal that Petty be suspended from school for a semester, and Angie Petty said she didn’t want that to happen since it would stall her son’s education, slowing his entry to college.

Had it been my kid I'd likely have made the same decision. Better to get the degree than to sit out a semester and get a later start on college, which supposedly was on the table had it gone to the tribunal.


Submitted by southernboy on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 12:58pm.

Wow, you seem to be real emotionally involved in this situation. Maybe they didn't charge him with a felony because it would be laughed out of court??

Submitted by spideymann on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 3:48pm.

Nice blog.

Submitted by jlyrgr on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 3:53pm.

you people are scaring me. since when do felonies get laughed out of court? listen to what you are saying. what if, in fact, he did try to hurt someone? what if it was your child? should his charged be laughed out of court then? read some books, and some munford stories.

Submitted by jlyrgr on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 3:24pm.

so now a felony charge is to be laughed out of court? its alarming you have that state of mind! that is a very serious charge to have weapon on school grounds. who are you people? and mr munford, yes you are right, BUT if at the tribunal the officals decided there was no threat, he was in fact using it for work, he could have stayed in school. i have been to a tribunal. yes dr warr recommended that. im not sure what other officals would be there, but i do know one Wayne Robinson would be one of the officals. If they, the officals, concluded that there was no harm done, the boy was innocent of any wrongdoing, then he would be allowed to attend fayette high for the remainder of his senior year. they even allow you to take a lawyer to the tribunal. Southernboy, you do know it is a FELONY to posses ANY weapon on ANY school grounds right? i can personally remember at LEAST 10 sighs posted on doorways at fayette high that state the same!

Submitted by spideymann on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 3:46pm.

Jollyroger-
Twist southernboys words however you wish.
I'll agree to disagree with you.

Submitted by jlyrgr on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 3:49pm.

What did I twist? "Maybe they didn't charge him with a felony because it would be laughed out of court??""

I copied and pasted. Now PLEASE tell me how i twisted that.

Submitted by flightplan on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 10:41am.

Americans are great at finding reasons why rules should not apply to them. Where was all this outrage when these rules were created in the first place? To suggest that there should be exceptions because someone needs a potential weapon for their job is ridiculous. What if your kid works for a construction company, it's OK to keep an ax in the back seat of your car at school? I think not. Also, the kid's grades or their potential to play college football should have nothing to do with this. It's irrelevant and shouldn't justify special treatment. There are plenty of terrific, honest, hard working kids who are not straight A students and won't be going to the NFL. There should not be a different set of rules regarding safety for kids who happen to do well in academics or athletics.

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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 9:14am.

Derailed Senior: Fayette School System Was Right

Mr. Munford filed a story entitled “3-inch Blade Derails FCHS Football Senior.“ Mr. Munford provided the Petty family with full opportunity to share their side. Based on the story, I fully support the principal, the school system and the decision. All Mr. Petty lost was the ability to attend the prom and be on campus. He can still earn his degree at a different school in Fayette. He can still attend college. The rest is up to him. Look at his history:

Strike One: Fighting in the cafeteria

Strike Two: Forgery

Strike Three: Having a knife on a school campus.

The Petty family would have you sympathize with their plight, taking on the American infatuation with the role of victim. His story about the knife being needed for a job is nonsense. Even if true, leave the knife at home. If he is an A student he either ignored the rules or chose not to learn them. His parents should have sat down with him and said “Son, let’s look at rules at Sandy Creek.” The first two offenses sufficient warnings.

Sadly, Andy Petty may have his own perception of entitlement akin to the Marcus Vicks of the world. Simply because of good grades or athletic ability, is it acceptable for a student to flaunt the rules? Example: college football star Marcus Vick refused to obey the rules. When Vick was asked for a reaction to his expulsion from Virginia Tech for stomping a player he said he would simply and go to the NFL: “It’s on to the next level, baby.” Two days later he was arrested for publicly brandishing a firearm.

Andy Petty should learn a lesson and learn the rules. His parents should teach him the law of consequences.

The principal was right and the school system should be supported. You certainly have my support.


Submitted by 1bighammer on Mon, 01/16/2006 - 11:43am.

Son, let’s look at rules at Sandy Creek??? Jolly, you obviously weren't paying attention. It was FAYETTE COUNTY HIGH SCHOOL!

A felony for a three inch knife is ABSURD. Especially since it was in his car. When I was in school ALL the boys carried their pocketknives, in class. Zero Tolerance is a catch phrase for "no brains needed" when situations like this arise. Use some common sense, does anyone really think that the Petty kid was going to hurt someone? Not Likely. If we have zero tolerance for weapons on school grounds lets get rid of the following:

1. Forks in the cafeteria.....you could stab someone.
2. Letter openers in the class room or the office...you could stab someone
3. Scalpels in the science labs....you could stab someone
4. Baseball bats in the Field House....You could Bludgeon someone.
5. Screwdrivers in the Auto Shop... you could stab someone
6. Pencils and pens....you could stab someone
7. Pots and pans in the HomeEc room...you could seriously hurt someone by hitting them in the head
8. Musical instruments...someone swinging a Trumpet or a Saxophone...man that would hurt.
9. Instructional CDs....break one of those in half and cut someone up.
10. Idiot administrators that use no comon sense...they can ruin a persons life by using their "NO Brains" policies!

Submitted by jlyrgr on Mon, 01/16/2006 - 2:55pm.

big hammer...what are YOU talking about. I didnt even write that comment idiot, Voice Of Fayette did. Geez. Looks like you are the one with "no brains". How long did it take you to make up that rediculous list??? I mean come on. Its posted all over fayette high, along with every other school in the state of georgia:

16-11-127.1.
(a) As used in this Code section, the term:
(1) 'School safety zone' means in, on, or within 1,000 feet of any real property owned by or leased to any public or private elementary school, secondary school, or school board and used for elementary or secondary education and in, on, or within 1,000 feet of the campus of any public or private technical school, vocational school, college, university, or institution of postsecondary education.
(2) 'Weapon' means and includes any pistol, revolver, or any weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind, or any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, any other knife having a blade of two or more inches, straight-edge razor, razor blade, spring stick, metal knucks, blackjack, any bat, club, or other bludgeon-type weapon, or any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such a manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as a nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain, or any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades which is designed to be thrown or propelled and which may be known as a throwing star or oriental dart, or any weapon of like kind, and any stun gun or taser as defined in subsection (a) of Code Section 16-11-106. This paragraph excludes any of these instruments used for classroom work authorized by the teacher.

please note where it says ANY KNIFE WITH A BLADE OF TWO OR MORE INCHES. come on bighammer, get with the program. times have changes since you were in school. now poeple brings weapons to hurt people. You must be one of our liberal friends also.

Submitted by 1bighammer on Mon, 01/16/2006 - 5:41pm.

without someone ripping him to shreds and calling him an idiot? I didn't call you any names and you've got to immediately start name calling. Just what any good Liberal does ...right? I am not one of your "Liberal Friends" as you put it. My list was made in jest, to show just how ridiculous the "Zero Tolerance" policy is.
I Know times have changed and students shouldn't carry knives into the classroom. But take a good look at that list and you will seethat although it is in jest, there are items that pose as big of a threat as that 3 inch pocketknife, and they are readily available inside the school....not in a student's car.

Submitted by spideymann on Wed, 01/11/2006 - 9:42am.

1) To compare this to the Vick incident is way out there-I don't see any flaunting of the rules.
2) Horseplay isn't considered fighting.
3) The article didn't say he committed forgery.
4) Who said anything about Sandy Creek? What?
5) Yes, there are consequences...let them fit the circumstances.

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