PTC increases solicitor permits, fire review fees and pool passes

Fri, 04/04/2008 - 3:40pm
By: The Citizen

Scott Bradshaw

The Peachtree City Council adopted a limited range of fee increases Thursday night, but tabled a final decision on a host of others that are being challenged or questioned.

The fee increases adopted include:

• Increasing the cost of solicitor's permits to $25 for the first day of the permit and $10 for each additional day the permit is effective in the same week;

• Eliminating the maximum $500 fee for building permit review by the fire department;

• Increasing the fire sprinkler and fire alarm plan review from $50 to $100 each;

• Adding a new $100 fee for the second construction site follow-up visit and a new $150 fee for the third such visit;

• Increasing the daily pool pass fees for $1 per pass for ages 3 to 64 only;

• Increasing the family pool package an average of 9 percent. All out-of-county pool passes will be double the in-county rate.

Council also voted to decrease the out-of-county fees for recreation classes only in an effort to build more participation in those classes. This reduces the 50 percent fee surcharge to 25 percent.

City Finance Director Paul Salvatore said the fee evaluations conducted by the city was not done in response to the recent downturn in sales tax revenues. Instead the impetus behind it was a city policy that requires the city's fees to be evaluated every few years. The fees recommended by staff came from an evaluation of what other cities are charging for similar functions, officials said.

Postponed fee increases involved a slate aimed at the development community in large part to help reduce the workload on city staff, which is often having to do "quality control" reviews of plans with multiple reviews instead of reviewing one final document, said City Planner David Rast.

Scott Bradshaw of the Midwest Homebuilders Association asked for the developmental services fees to be tabled since this was the first meeting they'd been unveiled at. Council agreed and tabled the matter along with all other proposed recreation fee increases.

The city has proposed allowing civic groups and non profit organizations located in the city to have up to three free meetings a year in a city classroom space. Those meetings could be bumped by a paying class or event up to one week before the meeting date, explained City Recreation DIrector Randy Gaddo.

After those three free meetings, each organization would have to pay the regular $30 per hour meeting room rental fee, Gaddo said.

Paul Van't Hof of the Peachtree City Civic Association said he thinks the city should only be charging such groups the cost of heating and providing electricity for that particular room instead of looking to "make a profit" from those groups. Van't Hof argued that the city shouldn't charge those groups for staff time involved because the meetings are held when city staff are already present, for example, to supervise the Kedron Fieldhouse and Aquatic Center.

Councilwoman Cyndi Plunkett asked how those groups are different from the soccer players who are charged fees, part of which are set aside by the city for improvements to the soccer fields. Civic Association member Beth Pullias said those fees go towards other things that benefit the individual player.

Councilman Don Haddix said when his homeowners association had a yearly banquet in December, it had to pay a $120 deposit and an hourly fee to have it at the Gathering Place recreation facility. He said he didn't see how the civic association was different from his homeowners association.

Also proposed and tabled is a $10 fee for in-county and a $20 fee for out-of-county residents annually for attending groups that meet at the Gathering Place. Gaddo said the idea is to defray the recreation department's increasing costs.

Van't Hof said the city should look at charging a similar per-head fee on civic groups and non-profit organizations for meeting space.

Councilman Don Haddix said he had a problem with the Gathering Place proposed fees because most of those users are elderly and on a fixed budget, and often their time at the facility is their main recreation for the week.

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 7:32pm.

You have to make up for the revenue lost when our former "mayor" annoyed Greg Dunn and some state legislators and lost our fair share of the sales taxes paid in Fayette County. His mismanagement and immature behaviour cost us millions of dollars.

I'm glad we are charging users for services that the city should otherwise pay for so that the average voter can get educated to what the cost is when we elect a maverick without a clue or a plan.

Obama voters may want to look at what happens when nice speeches and promises during a campaign run into reality after the fool gets in office. Happened to PTC. Could happen to the country.


Submitted by Spyglass on Sat, 04/05/2008 - 11:47am.

This Council inherited a mess.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 4:29pm.

Incredible, since taking office, the person who ran a campaign on financial reform has officially increased taxes (annually) and increased EVERY fee the city charges.

Mayor Logsdon is the biggest cheat who ever lived. He's one of the few in elected office where the alcohol comsumption outweighs the common sense.

Somebody please tell me what we're getting for having our wallets emptied? You can't say services have improved for sure. In three years, the mayor can't even get the golf cart bridge opened on highway 54 for crying out loud.

Vote Republican


Submitted by Spyglass on Sat, 04/05/2008 - 11:46am.

For goodness sake, you bitch about any and everything.

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Submitted by mudcat on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 7:23pm.

Harold ain't perfect, but he's trying to work with others - on your level this reads as "Plays well with others".

Get off his case and give him a break - Ramsey as well. I'm sorry you can't win an election, but why don't you just accept that and move on? Please?


Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 9:56pm.

"Harold is trying to work with others"??????????

Others? Yeah, everyone but PTC residents. If you are a scumball mcBULLY developer he tries to work with you if you buy him drinks.

Here is my proposal to pay for the illegal tennis center loan and the police station falling into the unlined dump.

From now on any city official charged with a DUI will be fined 5x's the normal fine. That way harold and our illustrious city manager will finally be contributing members of PTC.

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 7:39pm.

but who cares....You were on Council one term, you sucked up and hiked yer...whoops...but then got voted out.

Let's get real...Harold said one thing and did another. Spear Guy is dead on right.

On the positive side, I gotta tell you, I wish someone of Scott Bradshaw's character would run for office. Developer? Sure. But he is a good man. Pace ran for office to pad his pockets, joing civic clubs in August and quitting in December. He was right in your league Carol. I would vote for Bradshaw because I think he would return calls (unlike Chance and Ramsey) and he has told the truth in the past when lying would have been much easier. In contrast, Carol was a freaking throw rug.


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Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Sat, 04/05/2008 - 3:59am.

He's not really a developer, just a landowner who got into developing his own land. His moral compass points north - unlike Pace, McMurrain and others who try to force a round peg into a square hole all the time.

Sctott Bradshaw should run for mayor next year and I believe he would win even if Logsdon ran again. There have been so many insincere people running for political office - all seem to have a need for power or publicity (Westmoreland, Brown, Dunn, Lenox, Rapson) or have an agenda (Pace, Maxwell, Frady, Caldwell) but many more get elected and have that deer-in-the-headlights look and wonder what they are supposed to do. That list is much longer but it includes Weed, Horgan, Pfieffer, Boone, Lee, Smola, Fritz and all the candidates in the last PTC election.

Scott would be on that short list of effective people who actually understand the term "public servant" Jack Smith, Eric Dial, Dan Lakly, Fred Brown.
Jury is still out on Plunkett, Kourajian, Ramsey, Logsdon and Chance, but they all have potential to be real good if they don't mess up.


Submitted by John M on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 7:29pm.

I like the excessive tax burden. Being ruled-over by the man helps me get in touch with my inner-city side.

"I'm NOT John Munford"

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