Restaurant "tips"

The almost requirement that one leave a 10-20% of the bill tip for the help who only make $2 + dollars and hour, is similar to churches saying that 10% of your total income should be donated to the church.
I could be mistaken about that, but I think the church wants 10% mo matter how much you may donate elsewhere!

Tips are no longer a reward for excellent service. At least 10% is demanded no matter what kind of service one gets. Anyway, most of the service one gets comes from the management, the chef, and the supervisors---not the wait staff.
Tips are part of the wages since the waiters must make at least the minimum wage per law, and they are not paid that much by the restaurant.

I would prefer that the restaurant raise their food prices to at least cover minimum wage, and let me tip according to good food and service, not part of their salary.

As to churches getting 10% from everyone, if that were to happen they would have so much cash they would have to hire a staff to invest it! Imagine what a church that Bill Gates and some of the investment bankers attend, trying to dispose of millions per week!

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Submitted by blazing2006 on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 11:17am.

First of all,the law does not require that restaurants pay their servers minimum wage. Please show us the statute where it says that. My spouse has been in this field for 20 plus years and has helped start up several very successful restaurants. She has never been paid "minimum wage" and thank God she hasn't because she makes way more money than minimum wage could ever offer through her tips. Secondly, it is not a requirement to pay 10% on your bill. My wife averages 20-30 percent because of the job she does. She learns her customers names, what they drink, what they eat, what they do, birthdays and so on. Granted she is the exception of the average bartender/server out there who doesn't have a clue, who doesn't understand the value of "turning tables". When service is lousy I will let that person know WHY they are not getting more.Although, my wife , when I am with her makes me leave more than I think they deserve. ( she is very forgiving) Average service should get 10 percent, but I would hope when you run across a server/bartender that does an exceptional job, you reward them accordingly because they are typically only making about 2.00 - 2.50 an hour.

Submitted by Richard Ford on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 11:04am.


I normally leave blogs like this alone, but this is just too funny. Pulling the tithe of a church into your argument for not paying a waiter/waitress a tip is laughable.
1) A tip is not mandatory. It is whatever you feel is appropriate for the service that you have received. If you choose not to leave a tip at all, don't.
2) The church does not demand anything. It is God who commanded the tithe to the church. Only the layperson would not understand that tithing to the church is not about money, but about obedience to God's teachings. Your tithe can be of your time, efforts, skill, and yes your money. This is something that is between the individual and God.
I tip as appropriate, and tithe as commanded.
So if you do not want to tip or tithe you do not have to, but don't write blogs like this in an attempt to justify why you don't, just don't and keep it to yourself.

Rick Ford
Fayetteville, Ga.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 11:18am.

"It is God who commanded the tithe to the church."

Really? Commanded??

I learn something new from this blog everyday! Did he/she/god really command the 10% figure? The visual of god sitting on his/her cloudy throne, figuring simple math with his/her trusty holy calculator.... well... that's a real knee-slapper. Thanks for the eye opening biblical post!

Submitted by Richard Ford on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 5:09pm.

I wondered how long it would take certain bloggers to latch onto this statement and attack it. Not long at all it seems.
I will make this my last reply on this subject.
Main Stream, really, it is commanded by God. I leave it to you to find where in scripture it is. I doubt that you will try. As is typical of non-believers you continue to miss the point of the tithe. As I clearly stated above, tithing is about obedience to God. This is my belief and I choose to follow it, if you choose not to follow it so be it.
The nature of your post above demonstrates that you are a not a follower of Christ and the Lord's teachings so I choose not to debate your disbelief of my belief.
However, if you would ever want to learn about Christ and His plan I stand ready, as all Christians should, to talk to you about how my acceptance as Christ as my Saviour has changed my life in ways I could have never dreamed.
Rick Ford
Fayetteville, Ga.

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