Obama's religion verses Islam

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Some have suggested that Obama is a closet Muslim. They've suggested this to perhaps smear him with the radical extremes of Islam. You know the religion that --

1. hates the Jews;
2. hates America
3. says that 9/11 was an inside job,
4. believes their homeland is sacrosanct;
5. preys upon the ignorant masses with speeches that plays upon their fears and status as victims.

But, I believe that Obama is not a Muslim. He's really just a good ole Christian boy from Chicago.

Now I wonder what that Church preaches?

1. What is their position on the Jews?
2. What is their position on America?
3. Who do they believe was responsible for 9/11 or spreading HIV?
4. Do they believe any country is more important than America?
5. Do they motivate their members by making them victims and unable to think for themselves?

I was just wondering, because I don't want anyone to suggest that Barack would associate with Muslim extremists. That wouldn't be fair, now would it?

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Submitted by thebeaver on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 10:24pm.

I must admit, it's fun to watch the Obama campaign and the Democrat party, in general, begin to unravel at the seams.

In a campaign appearance earlier this month, Sen. Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." He said Rev. Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family.

Some of Uncle Jeremiah’s famous statements that Barack doesn’t always agree with:

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people,"

"God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,"

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost,"

In a set of "talking points" on the church’s website, Wright proclaims himself an exponent of "black liberation theology." He cites James Cone, a distinguished professor at New York's Union Theological Seminary, whom he credits for having "systematized" this strain of Christianity.
Here is a quote from Cone, explaining black liberation theology:

“Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Obama's 1995 memoir, "Dreams of My Father," cites a Wright sermon called "The Audacity of Hope," the title of which Obama borrowed for his own campaign slogan. Without evident disapproval, Obama quotes a passage from that sermon in which Wright describes "a world . . . where white folks' greed runs a world in need."

Obama claims that Wright "has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor." In fact, Wright served on an advisory committee for the Obama campaign, from which he was forced to resign Friday.

It’s very easy to see where Michelle Obama learned to be ashamed of her country until now. Her husband’s pastor, “uncle”, spiritual advisor, and friend of 20 years was so filled with hate for America and the white race, it’s very easy to see where she learned it.

Trinity United Church of Christ moved it’s “Black Value System” from the “about us” page to a small link at the bottom of the home page. Interesting…

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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 8:09pm.

You're not going to change any minds on here, so chill out. People like you, and the other Repub bloggers here, were never going to cast their vote for Obama anyway, so why keep up your dog and pony show?

btw - Obama is planning on delivering a speech on Tuesday in Philadelphia to address the firestorm created by Wright, his church, and the role of race in America. Maybe McCain can take a lesson from this and deliver a speech condemning the freakish, religous rhetoric oozing from the pulpits of Hagee and Parsley:

Obama told interviewer Gwen Ifill on PBS’s “NewsHour With Jim Lehrer "I think it would have been naive for me to think I could run and end up with quasi-front-runner status in a presidential election as potentially the first African-American president, that issues [of] race wouldn’t come up..."

“I think we’ve got to talk about it,” he added. “I think we’ve got to process it. But we’ve got to remind ourselves that what we have in common is far more important than what’s different and that if we’re going to solve any of these problems, we’ve got to come together and bridge our differences in ways that we just have not bridged them before.”


Submitted by sageadvice on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 8:19pm.

I don't think McCain attends Parsley and Hagee's churches!
He recognizes them as voter support, as the republicans do their bunch of preachers, who they don't even know. Dobson, Falwell, etc. Falwell's successor is a little quieter.

Anyway it is not the church building one attends but the principles of the candidate. Reagan didn't go anywhere!

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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 03/17/2008 - 8:31pm.

you're part of the choir I was referring to and I doubt you would have voted for Obama anyway, by reading your recent political posts.

I voted for Obama in the GA primary and I will vote for him if he is the nominee.

No minds are changed here. But this all makes for entertaining banter I suppose.

As a non-religous person myself, I think this is all ridiculous. If you've caught any international news lately, the European countries and Canada are laughing at the U.S. over all this hoopla regarding Wright, Hagee and Parsley and America's hand-wringing over who said what/when/where/how, from their respective pulpits.

We're living in the religious dark ages over here.

btw - welcome back! We missed you!

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