‘You can be naked, but no peace sign’

Tue, 03/04/2008 - 4:49pm
By: John Munford

Whitewater teacher came on to 11th grader via text messages; DA drops criminal charges

Harry Heintz, 28, a former Whitewater High School teacher, sent cell phone text messages to one of his female students in an attempt to start a personal relationship, according to logs of the texts that have been reviewed by The Citizen.

Heintz, who resigned in October, complimented the girl’s smile and intelligence in a series of text messages on Friday, Oct. 26 and Saturday, Oct. 27.

“And ... Obviously there is a physical attraction ... I mean you are one of the 3 best looking girls with good bodies around ...,” Heintz wrote to the girl.

The flurry of texts between the teacher and student was subpoenaed from cell phone companies by the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department.

Last week, criminal charges were dropped against Heintz, also a former assistant football coach at the school, who was accused of asking the female student to send a nude photo of her to his cell phone.

Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard, who authorized the dropping of the criminal case against Heintz, said that the teacher used “poor judgment” but didn’t commit a crime.

According to law enforcement documents, the evening of Friday, Oct. 26, Heintz text-messages the student, asking her to send him a photo, and he specifically asks for it not to be blurry. The student is briefly confused and then he explains it to her: “No peace sign, you can be butt ass naked but no peace sign.”

Later that evening, after 10 p.m., Heintz and the student begin texting again, and he asks her to meet him at the school. She declines, saying she’s at a friend’s house and can’t leave. Heintz then tells the student that he’s nervous and “would like to see you more often.”

After more conversation, Heintz asks the student if she feels the same. After she makes a reference to “school,” Heintz asks her to explain, and she elaborates: “Like your (sic) married? What about your wife.” The student also expressed concerns about Heintz being a teacher.

Later on in the conversation, Heintz opens up further to the student, after his attempts to convince her to talk to him are futile. In a series of several text messages in a row, Heintz wrote:

“Ok so i noticed you in 9th grade. I still remember the first time i saw you ... On the track with (another student). I was like holy crap She is a knock out! And i was attracted to you not in a creepy way, but in a like general way ... Then i had you in class and i was really happy And I tried hard not to flirt ... Which was the first alarm because i shamelessly do it with everyone else. And i was like why it this ... I never had your number because of this reason here ... But when it all hit me was when you came by the weightroom upset. I was mad as hell ... And i wanted to tell you what I felt. It was like a light went off ... But all i said was, you are great ... And i thought to myself What an idiot ... Just tell her ... And then you staRted coming by my room and I really wanted you to come by more. So it hit me ... And it embarrassing because of the situation but Damn i cant help it. I wanted to tell you something totally different outside the weightroom and I chickened ... But today i got your number because i am tired of you not knowing what i wanted to say ... OK ... How weird to you think i am now? Im done”

The student replied:

“a OK i dont think your wierd i think its normal and i think you can have deep attraction to someone at first sight. But like I thought you and your wife were close and stuff.”

Several messages later and Heintz explains:

“That it is not about her ... I was not even married when I net (sic) you”

The following evening, the two began texting each other again, and the student expresses remorse for apparently considering the relationship.

“So since last night ive just been feeling sick. I feel like im doing something wrong bc you have a wife that cares about you alot and even though you met me before her its still wrong. I mean i graduate in a year and a half maybe we should wait till then to talk but we can still be like friends and stuf and im aware of the feelings and i thank you for being honest.”

After Heintz texts back that he’s okay with that, he writes: “Yeah ... The big thing was me telling you. Ya know?”

The girl replied: “Yeh i got ya. Lol and thanks for being honest i just wouldnt want you ever to somehow get in trouble and crap.”

According to the girl’s text messaging logs, she told a friend the following day that she felt differently about Heintz.

The girl told her friend that she had told Heintz she wasn’t feeling well and he replied: “He said hope you feel better. Come visit me tomorrow smilie face. Ah hes just such a creep.”

On Monday, Heintz texts the student to state his concern that he didn’t see her at school during the day. Heintz said that he worries he hurt her.

She replies: “You didn’t hurt me. You just made things awkward and i feel bad for your wife.”

The student — a junior this year — subsequently reported the teacher’s text messages to the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department.

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Submitted by Wildcat supporter on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 10:31pm.

"Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged. And why worry about a speck in your friend's eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying "Let me help you get rid of the speck in you eye when you can't see past the log in your own eye? First get rid of the log in your own eye, then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend's eye." Think about it.

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Submitted by BPR on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:16pm.

I refuse to get into a scripture war. BTW- you must have not read that I do get the speck out of my eye daily.

Think what you think- what matters is I answer to God for myself- no one answers for me.

Reread what you wrote me- hummm what did you say. Judging- speck. Does that apply only to me? No it does not.

This has nothing to do with judging or speck- these are statements people made and what they stand for.

We are entitled to our different opinion. That's the good thing about living in the USA.

Wildcat you are a person of value - all people are!

Have a good evening.

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Submitted by daisyheadmaisy on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 7:57am.

I thought she said she was "leaving."

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 8:09am.

Maybe she changed her mind. The more people we have the more interesting the conversation.

I'm glad she changed her mind.

Submitted by Wildcat supporter on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:38pm.

I understand your point about different opinions. I only hoped to provoke some thought about the "kind of people" that our Lord and Saviour hung out with while on the earth. He came for the sinner. What happened was a terrible thing, devastating, wrong by moral law. But perhaps if we looked at the situation as God fearing people we would pray for everyone involved instead of condemn them. We wouldn't place blame on a young girl, or spit on a man that made a huge error in judgement that cost him his career, his integrity and the respect of everyone in the community. He who is without sin can cast the first stone. One thing that is for certain, it won't be me.

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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 8:11am.

I am sorry, after I posted to you I realized that you were talking about a different situation.

You can read back at the situation I was talking about- it's about Obama church and Larry Elders, I had alot of comments coming at once, without looking closely like I should have - yours happen to be in above there and before thinking and looking I responded thinking your were talking to me- I saw yours which I though was about what the people on my links made their own statements about. I thought you were talking to me about the links.

I disagree about a different situation.

I happen to agree with everything you said above in your statement to me. Again I should have read more closely.

I was talking about a situation I had links to, the ones I had links to were making statements to which speak for them. If you read back- I had alot of people talking to me or at me. I had 3 at one time.

I have alot of questions for the ones I had links to myself and others don't get the answers from them. The ones I have links happen to think what they say is true- which myself and others disagree. We just want answers.

I have been praying about the situation you are talking about- I agree with you- believe me I am a mess up- you see what I did about the mix up - I need the Lord. I do pray for my faults daily thank the Lord he forgives me. The entire situation you are talking about is sad- believe me when I say I extend mercy when someone makes a mistake- God extends mercy to me and I do the same because I am thankful that the Lord extend mercy to me. Thank you advance for your understanding.

I want you to know your situation- it's sad- with everyone involved.

I want you to know I am sorry that I offended you- I know what the bible says about making peace. I have asked the Lord for forgiveness about the mix up.

Have a nice day.

Once again I am sorry for the mix up- I hope you accept my apology.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 8:21am.

Hang in there. At least you were not banned for foul and vulgar comments and then came back as another blogger.
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Submitted by Denise Conner on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 8:54am.

"banned for foul and vulgar comments" -- Multiple offenses Laughing out loud

"and then came back as another blogger" or 2 or 3 or ...

BPR hasn't ever been "foul and vulgar" like Sniffy. She wasn't ever

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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 5:01pm.

Thank you!Smiling You know what for.
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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 8:53am.

Thank you Cyclist- you have a way to make me laugh and smile.Smiling I am glad you do that.

Gotta go out the door- meeting

Have a nice day!

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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 10:42pm.

I think the Bible might also say something about not lusting after children. You think?

It's truly sad that this whole thing is being played out in public for the whole community to witness, but Mr. H. should have thought about that before lusting after a 9th grader, and continuing to lust after her. It would have saved himself, and his family, and the student, alot of trauma and embarassment.


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 10:40pm.

Yep, that pesky old Biblical admonition about pre-judging others.

I wouldn't be surprised to hear about the "conservative" leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention editing that particular Scripture out of the Bible at their next convention.

It's so contrary to the Southern Baptist lifestyle.
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Submitted by BPR on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:30pm.

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Sniffles- yuu don't know a thing about SBC- we don't edit scripture.

If you had gone to the sites I gave you = you would have seen that-

Hint there is someone you like that does do that. You will never guess who. Don't worry it's not a person on The Citizen. We know what Obama stand for with his church and it's not him.

Humm who could it be? I will let you think on that- you won't get it.
Because you don't know it. BTW don't give me the judging quote- it has nothing to do with judging. It's a fact. Big difference.

I will not reply to something that you don't know what SBC stands for.

I won't even answer questions and get into a scripture war fight.

Value Sniffles- you have value- that's the good thing.Smiling

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Submitted by Wildcat supporter on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 10:58pm.

It is God's right to judge, not ours. (James 4:12) "God alone, who gae the law, is the Judge. He alone has the power to save or destroy. So what right do you have to judge your neighbor?" I suggest that we pray for all of those involved in this unfortunate situation. I am sure that they are truly suffering.

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Submitted by NUK_1 on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 12:03am.

Ever hear of the judicial system that's main function is to judge people? How about those people called JUDGES? Save or destroy? Like the death penalty perhaps? Throwing out biblical excerpts with little or no relevance to the context of the discussion is lame.

I hate to break it to you, but I have claimed the right to judge other people, places, and things as much as I feel is necessary to my survival and prosperity. Hurray for me!Smiling

DON'T TASE ME, BRO!!!


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Fri, 03/07/2008 - 8:00am.

adjudicate legally, not morally. Who, on earth, has the right to judge others morally? That is what the scripture is saying. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:11pm.

Sorry, but I'm not a follower of the Bible-god, so I can judge to my hearts content - and it feels terrific!

If you do the praying, then I'd be proud to do the judging.

He:

1) is a pervert
2) needs psychological help
3) his family and the student are the victims, not him
4) and he shouldn't be allowed to teach, coach, counsel, etc. children

Have a great night!


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Submitted by John Munford on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 12:18pm.

In my review of the text message logs there was no indication AT ALL that this student led Heintz on in any way.

I personally think it's in poor taste for people to continue to spread rumors blaming the student in this case. The evidence here is crystal clear.

I couldn't put the entire text message conversations in the paper because of space and context considerations. But I can tell you I didn't see *anything* that shows she led him on.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 2:30pm.

This molester wanna-be is solely responsible for his actions.

This young lady showed incredible maturity and excellent judgment and the "blame the victim' crowd is entirely out of order. She was insightful and wise to handle the situation the way she did.

Apparently, scum is adhesive because they sure love to stick together when they play 'blame the victim' in an attempt to obfuscate the assignment of personal responsibility.

Thanks for speaking out in her defense.
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Submitted by CitizenBlogger on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:18am.

According to the Georgia Professional Standards Commission Educator Ethics Division, a complaint against Harry Heintz is under investigation. He won't be able to get a teaching job once they void his teaching certificate.

Submitted by Brooks Parent on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 9:53pm.

If I am not mistaken, he didn't even have full certification. He only had a provisional certification. Stillions loves to hire people that do not even have teacher certification.

Submitted by justcurious on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 10:14pm.

Whether or not the young lady "led him on" as some have claimed is not the point - he is an adult, a certified teacher, not to mention a married man! Saying she's somewhat to blame is like saying a lady who wears a short skirt is asking to be raped. It was his choice and he knew better. How many of these stories have we heard over just the past two years across our country?

I am dumbfounded as to how he managed to have the charges dropped??? Once again, Scotty goes soft on an adult who acted inappropriately towards a minor!

As to his being able to resign and not being fired - guess what folks? That means he keeps his teaching certificate and moves on to the next set of young ladies at another high school.

I am losing my faith in our justice system more and more every day. When some people are able to find loopholes, while I've seen others who try to do the right thing and get arrested based on lies.

If you are feeling the same way - please come to the NAACP meeting this Saturday. I'm not sure of time and place, but you can find it on their website. All of us, citizens of every gender, color, nationality, we all need to unite together and stop the injustice in our county. I hope to see you there!

Submitted by sageadvice on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:29am.

Would you mind telling to me why "young ladies," as you put it, are allowed to dress provocatively, act flirtish, and participate in ill-conceived conversations? Are they trained to do this to attract men?
I see no need, for instance, for a female to wear a tight dress or skirt, showing most of her thigh, or more, every time she sits or is active!
The wearing of blouses to show some cleavage is also common.
I won't even get into hair care and make-up and it's costs!

Are these things allowed by parents in order for the daughter to snag attention? If not, what else?

The flashing of decorated eyes and the accidental bumping of boys hands of rear ends, is of course always intentional.

Yet, when all that is taken as inviting sex, all hell breaks loose if caught.

The SM school teacher was still a young boy, in his mind, and he can't be excused no matter what---but most of these problems and pregnancies don't come from teachers!

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 2:39pm.

First, it was WHS not SM.

Secondly, a woman can wear anything she wants and it is not an open invitation for sickos like you to ASSUME you are welcome to attempt a sexual molestation or take advantage of a position of power or authority by sexually harassing them.

I suppose all women should wear long dresses, no make up and speak when spoken to in your world. I'm sorry to bust your bubble Sage but women in America have the right to an opinion, a voice, and to dress and use make up as they deem appropriate - not as YOU do.

Thank God for Conservative, Open Minded, Intelligent, Beautiful, Well Spoken, Confident Women.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


Submitted by CitizenBlogger on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:52am.

Re: The flashing of decorated eyes and the accidental bumping of boys hands of rear ends, is of course always intentional.

If you wear eye make-up, you are inviting sex? If boys think eye make-up is an invitation to sex, their mothers and fathers need to clear that up for them.

Likewise, girls who attract this kind of attention ought to consider the messages they are sending.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE TEACHERS GETTING SIGNALS FROM STUDENTS. THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO KNOW BETTER!

Submitted by sageadvice on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 12:47pm.

I SAID WHAT YOU SAID, IN BIG OLD CAPS! Did you read it?

So, answer the question, please! Why do girls and women paint-up,show, and flip, if they aren't interested. Is that fair and balanced?
There ain't no show without sex eventually! It takes two to tango.

Are you for it?

Submitted by CitizenBlogger on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 7:10pm.

I cut and pasted from your comment because I was mocking you.

Girls don't wear make up because they are interested in sex.

If you see a young lady in makeup and think she's trolling for sex you are the sick one.

Get some help. Your attitude problem is what's wrong with society. A girl thinks she's looking cute just for the sake of looking cute and leacherous men think it's a come on. Gross.

It is most definitely not fair and balanced that you can only view girls as sex objects and they should have to protect themselves from your kind by wearing a burkha.

Submitted by CitizenBlogger on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 11:27am.

Lots of good information regarding Educator Ethics on www.gapsc.com. I was relieved to find that resigning doesn't protect the teaching certificate.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 11:28am.

He "noticed" her in 9th grade? Sick.
This "man" shouldn't be allowed near a school. We might be hearing about him doing this again.


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Submitted by MissPittyPat on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 9:55am.

Where the heck is his wife? I bet this young girl is not the first female student this teacher has approached. More than likely, he will move on to another school.


Submitted by Ever Hopeful on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 9:48am.

From my experience, the favoritism and politics are rampant in at least one elementary school.

You are correct, if you question anything and you are not part of the favored group, your child is labeled and suffers. I was hopeful this went away in middle and high school.

Always said if I registered with the Fayette Citizen, I would use my name however, I must protect my child.

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Submitted by Fyt35 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:14am.

What a dirt bag!
Along with the student having to endure this predator, I feel for his wife. She is a wonderful person and should let go of this piece of crap immediately; for her own good. I’m no Dr.Phil but this guy is just looking for an opportunity, pretty obvious to me. It didn’t happen this time; but later on, who knows…

He is part of many things that are wrong at WHS, a culture that promotes favoritism and cover-ups; tight parent-teacher-coach circles; much of similar to the favoritism showed towards individuals such as Heintz; or the asst administrator driving around drunk in a golf cart in PTC last year; booster club favoritism for those that are good lifelong friends of the coaches, especially in football where Heintz was a coach and favored a certain group of kids that spent time with him at his home playing video games or eating at their homes; as supposed to kids that worked their tails off to earn a spot.

How about those kids that are selected for the special clubs at the school; Beta Club, Ambassador Club, etc; always the sons and daughters of the WHS inner circle of parents and administrators that do not allow outsiders a chance. This circle basically runs the school, bakes cakes and pies for the coaches and teachers if there is an opportunity for their sons or daughters to gain something.

There are many good people at WHS; unfortunately, the loud minority runs the place; the good ones dare say nothing to avoid being pushed to the side and their kids labeled. My kids have a few years until they graduate; I hope to stay a Wildcat if I can stomach it.

Is it like this at your school? McIntosh, Fayette, Sandy Creek, Starr’s Mill?


Submitted by Brooks Parent on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 9:58pm.

FCBOE needs to move Greg out of there. Whatever he tried to create has failed miserably. There are some outstanding teachers at WHS and there are many teachers there that do not do their job. They are caught up in the "extracurricular" activities and do not focus on their primary job which is to teach!!!

Submitted by Im just saying on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 10:44pm.

I happen to grow up and go to jr. high/high school where the now WHS Administrator and his old friends were teaching and coaching when they first got out of college. (late 70's/early 80's) NOT much has changed! No surprise that Hienz was allowed to resign...when the person in charge has always known, approved and covered up this type of behavior. He is still friends with some of these teachers/coaches that had MANY relationships and extra marital affairs with students. A couple of his friends even married the studen(s) and later divorced. Another one of the teachers from that time frame is now a FCBOE Leader. I'm sure they all still cover for each other.

It's no surprise that favortism is showed when one is part of the "click" or "inner social circle"...that hasn't changed either!

AS far as Hienz...I'm sure he is an inmature, selfish 28 year old idiot and I have no doubt that he would have eventually coherced this girl into a sexual relationship. (yes, he is a Clinton "want to be"...he tried to use his little bit of power for personal gain.)

As for the teenage girl, I'm sure she is probably somewhat guilty-even if she didn't realize she was leading him on...all this publicity is hopefully enough punishment for her to learn from.

The real victim is Hienz's wife. She seems to be a wonderful person that didn't deserve to be put in this situation! I hope she's not a Hilary!

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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 12:32am.

I was reading your post, with a great deal of interest, until you added the references to the Clinton's.

What's more important to you? Getting that story off your chest about the unethical leaders in the FCBOE - OR - Bill and Hillary?

Your post would have been taken more seriously, without the reference to the Clinton's. That topic could have been posted on a thread all its own, where many bloggers would flock to immediately (Conservative red meat).

Anyway, if what you posted in the first paragraph is indeed accurate, and not heresay, this is rather disturbing, and reinforces my belief that those in a position of authority, over our children, need to be carefully scrutinized, on a consistent basis.


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Submitted by shadowalker on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 1:12pm.

I can see why she posted this following the lines of clinton

power , and wants anything in a skirt

your stupid to even comment about what was said or posted

the clintons are both a blight on our country
him for what it did and the lies he has told his entire adult life
and her for staying with him , you know they are two peas in a pod
wake up idiot

shadowalker


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 8:51pm.

Are you a human or someone's pet that has been taught to use a keyboard? The lack of coherence of this is pure comedy Laughing out loud

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 2:44am.

This struck me even more than the "what about Bill" part:

"As for the teenage girl, I'm sure she is probably somewhat guilty-even if she didn't realize she was leading him on"

Why do we always try to blame and guilt the victim? Why?

cheers, hope to see you friday noonish to oneish at the Hwy 54 Star buck's. Come as sniffles just to keep it entertaining.

Kevin "Hack" King


Submitted by Proud_to_be_in_... on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 9:48am.

Just a point of clarification . . . Both were wrong. The Adult and the Student. We are a WHS family and we 'know' both people. The student in this case is definately NO angel. As my son puts it - she knew Exactly what she was doing. But - - the adult is supposed to be just that - an adult . . . he should have known better, especially in today's society of leaving a trail with every text msg. It's a terrible shame and another black mark on human behavior.

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 2:48pm.

"in loco parentis" - LOOK IT UP - it's a legal term.

This guy is bad news and the girl is a victim - NO MATTER WHAT YOU THINK OF HER.

When you are charged with the care, safety, and supervision of a person - using them as a sex toy is NEVER acceptable.

BOTH were NOT wrong and you should be ashamed to spread such garbage.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 03/06/2008 - 2:47pm.

As it is she was victimized by this clown.

BOTH were NOT wrong and you should be ashamed to spread such garbage.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


Submitted by wildcat on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:20pm.

This did happen at SMHS except the teacher was a female and it went much farther than text messaging. I can't remember exactly when it happened....early 2000s?? I guess it happens everywhere. Scary, huh?

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:30pm.

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Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 8:22pm.

How can this not be illegal? It does seem very dangerously wrong.

How could any adult converse like that with a teen?? I'm stunned.

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 5:10am.

Here's the answer to your question: It's a system that's stacked against the victims. And we all know how soft Ballard is with sexual "misconduct" crimes. Exactly what were the charges and why were they dropped? Is this another example of Scotty making another deal with perverts?

According to the 11/02/2007 Citizen article, Heintz was "arrested for one felony count of sexual exploitation of a minor," but he "was not immediately arrested because 'the complaint is seemingly a school misconduct issue.'" Puzzled Sounds like the school made a deal with Heintz for him to "resign." (I wonder if this incident is on his employment record, especially since the charges were dropped.) Were charges brought only after the parents found out about Heintz’s plans to slip away quietly, most likely to another school?

How old was the girl? I think at age 16 there's no crime. He says that he'd been watching her since 9th grade.

Ga. Code 16-6-5

GCA § 26-2020: Enticing a child for indecent purposes

"A person commits the offense of enticing a child for indecent purposes when he or she solicits, entices, or takes any child under the age of 16 to any place whatsoever for the purpose of child molestation or indecent acts." Effective July 1, 1995


CHAPTER 6. SEXUAL OFFENSES
-- See Title 16, Chapter 6

"What Is Online Enticement of Children for Sexual Acts" (There's no mention of text-messaging.)

"AP: Sexual Misconduct Plagues U.S. Schools" Excerpts

"Most of the abuse never gets reported. Those cases reported often end with no action. Cases investigated sometimes can’t be proven, and many abusers have several victims."

"Passing the trash"

"Too often, problem teachers are allowed to leave quietly. That can mean future abuse for another student and another school district.

"'School administrators make behind-the-scenes deals to avoid lawsuits and other trouble. And in state capitals and Congress, lawmakers shy from tough state punishments or any cohesive national policy for fear of disparaging a vital profession."

"It’s a dynamic so common it has its own nicknames — 'passing the trash' or the 'mobile molester.'"

"And no one — not the schools, not the courts, not the state or federal governments — has found a surefire way to keep molesting teachers out of classrooms."

"Beyond the horror of individual crimes, the larger shame is that the institutions that govern education have only sporadically addressed a problem that’s been apparent for years."

"The AP investigation found efforts to stop individual offenders but, overall, a deeply entrenched resistance toward recognizing and fighting abuse."

"Loopholes Keep Teacher Misconduct Secret"

"School Sex Scandals - The Dark Side of Teacher-Student Relations"

Robert Stacy McCain, a former assistant national editor for The Washington Times, has some interesting comments on the movement to de-stigmatize "adult-non-adult" sex.


Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:40am.

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Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:35am.

This "teacher" never grew up!
He is still a hot young 14-16 year old traveler, looking at all the pretty and fresh girls! Most of them dress for guys like him.

He should not be a teacher or work with young girls. A construction worker would fit better.

I don't know what the girls and their parents can expect, other than what happened, when you fool around on the Internet with such conversations! She should never have discussed with him any involvement since she knew he was a teacher and was married!

However, nothing justifies such conduct by a teacher. Apparently, good teachers are just as hard to find as for any form of work anymore!

And you are correct about the punishment for him: a record should be made so that a probation could be exercised. I don't believe in "blackballing" but the record should be there.

The Missy should also get a little probation in case she gets desperate again and tries something else with inappropriate people.

My understanding is that she is a woman!

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Submitted by rzz on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 9:52pm.

"Hi, I'm Chris Hanson, have a seat...."

I think if he had met with her he could have been busted but I guess the texts are like internet talk, I suppose.

Plus, he resigned, not fired!??


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Submitted by muddle on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 7:58pm.

Is this some kind of euphemism?

Anyway, looks to me like this kid kept her head and had good instincts. Good for her.


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Submitted by rzz on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 7:06pm.

He may not have committed a crime (barely) but I'm glad they fired his sorry butt. He sure as heck doesn't belong anywhere near a classroom or young ladies. I hope it stays on his record somehow. Perv boy!


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 7:44pm.

This was not his first rodeo and she wasn't his first cowgirl. Keep an ear to the ground and an eye open ... you will hear more.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by rzz on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 9:53pm.

resigned, not fired.


Submitted by fcone on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 6:25pm.

There are several posters that owe this student a huge apology. I read on here where students took shots at her character and said she had to lead the coach on. There is only one way to read the actual texts posted in this article and they show that the girl here showed class and maturity. She did exactly what she should have done (including alerting other adults).

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Submitted by Main Stream on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 6:07pm.

There must be a law against 'lewd behavior' by a person in an authoritative position? If not, he needs to have his teaching credentials taken away. If he didn't get this girl, he'll eventually find a different victim. Absolutely sickening.

This was prevalent in my high school and no one did a thing, back in the 1970's, and several female students either dropped out, one committed suicide, and my best friend actually married our teacher. She later committed suicide at the age of 30.

This man needs to be stopped. And he needs to seek psychological help, immediately.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 8:09pm.

This is exactly what Bill Clinton did and you supported him ... what's the problem? No law was broken, both are adults in the eyes of the law ... he was honest and Clinton lied ... he's one up on Bill...why the double standard from you?

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:46am.

Mr. Heintz has been added to the BadBadTeacher.com website. I invite both you and denise to post your comments and support of his actions, on their blog as well:

TEACHER WEBSITE


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:58pm.

Glad to know that you consider any sexual activity "absolutely sickening" or to be "lewd behavior" and that you'd label this MALE (maybe that's the reason: your Beserkley feminist background) "perverted" and "sicko." We actually have something in common (not the feminist part), besides preferring plain coffee to lattés. Eye-wink


Skyspy -- Teachers' Sexual "Misconduct,"
Submitted by Denise Conner on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 5:10am.

That's 2 hours, 36 minutes BEFORE your post. Laughing out loud

See the LINK "School Sex Scandals - The Dark Side of Teacher-Student Relations" at that post, as well as others, or GO HERE.

Now, how did your twisted logic, or was it pure emotionalism, come up with my "supporting his actions" in any way whatsoever? Who's being "dense" here? Puzzled

Is this post your latest impersonation of Sniffy, or does he impersonate you, as well as JeffC & $? It can be so very confusing! Laughing out loud


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 12:10am.

"The student replied:

“a OK i dont think your wierd i think its normal and i think you can have deep attraction to someone at first sight. But like I thought you and your wife were close and stuff.”

Several messages later and Heintz explains:

“That it is not about her ... I was not even married when I net (sic) you”

A high school student is being compared to Monica Lewinsky so that you can try to score political points against Main stream? And you call this guy "honest?!"

Good Lord, man! Is there no limit to the depths you will go to to make a political point? As a father , this is deeply, deeply disturbing that it took the judgment of this HIGH SCHOOL girl to prevent a very bad situation from happening. Mudcat says he has "needs?" I have to say that your attitudes are very disturbing. This man is a cancer praying on a vulnerable youth; a girl not even old enough to vote, buy a drink, or a cigarette. Yet she was able to make a decision to not be a victim; and the DA's office has FAILED to protect her. And YOU and MUDCAT have become cheerleading enablers!

Shameful!

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 8:20am.

What I am thinking is that it angers you liberals when you are called on your hypocrisy. When your daughter is 22 and her powerful supervisor / boss of 50 something is having her in to the office for cigars you too will realize that it is every bit as sick and immoral as a teacher of 28 approaching a student of 17.

The truth of the matter is they are both sick predators that need to be castrated. The difference between you and me on this issue is that I am consistent about my outrage and you are selective based on political affiliation.

As for your comment: "Is there no limit to the depths you will go to to make a political point? It seems I have read plenty of your bashing of the republicans like Craig, Foley, and others that did not fit your political bent while they and their families suffered through humility from a sexual deviancy. For God's sake man - show some consistency!

The biggest difference between this fine young lady and Lewinski is this young girl was more mature, showed better judgment, was concerned about the morality and exposed the predator and did not fall victim to this harassment. Lewinski on the other hand WAS a democrat.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 8:17am.

This man is a huge cancer on society. I do not understand how he got off.

He was watching her since 9th grade?? What kind of whack job is looking at girls in 9th grade??

Now that he got off he will do it again, somewhere else. We will see this rabid scumball roach, on dateline in no time. I wish we could bury people like him under the jail.

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Submitted by wulfman on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:19am.

Clinton was a scum bag

But at least he wasn’t trying to get into the pants of a 17year old high school girl.

This despicable piece of trash and poor excuse of a teacher should never be allowed to teach again.

Thank God, this young lady took the appropriate steps to put a stop to this scum bag’s plans.

She should be commended.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 5:38pm.

By the way, how do you know Bill wasn't trying to get in to the pants of a 17 year old high school girl?

We can agree the girl was the mature and responsible person in this attempted molestation.

Can we agree both 'men' (I use the term loosely) are disgusting perverts that deserve castration?

Seems several on here have defended Bill in the past with great fervor.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 4:49pm.

did you have an opportunity to purchase that book I recommended to you a few weeks back? That gentleman will be giving a talk at the Carter Center later this month (3/19) if you are interested. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by mudcat on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 7:50pm.

OK, maybe I can see how the teacher is not acting properly, but at age 28 he has needs, you know.

The other crime here is that a teacher can't spell, construct grammatically correct sentences and uses "i" instead of "I". The "i" thing bothers me most of all. How can you pretend to be a stud and be interested in a girl if you use a small "i"?

Throw him away and lock up the key or throw a book at him - a dictionary maybe.


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Submitted by Locke on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 9:43am.

And you too tsloth. For the windows into your minds. Now after seeing how you think, I think I'll go take a bath.


wulfman's picture
Submitted by wulfman on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:29am.

He has needs

Right,

Let him go out and find a woman to take care of his “needs” and leave the high school girls alone.


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Tue, 03/04/2008 - 8:07pm.

The guy was just trying to pull a Bill Clinton...geez...since when did emulating the President of the United States become so awful!?! It would absolutely be HYPOCRITICAL for a Clinton supporter to have a problem with this.

On another more serious note: Do the world a favor and castrate him ... and this teacher too!

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 12:30am.

Truly pathetic obfuscation of a very serious local situation. Perhaps one day you may awaken to realize that 17 is not 22. In the eyes of the law, the maturity levels and legal abilities afforded are vastly different. What exactly does the "truth" part of truthsleuth mean?

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 8:35am.

Actually, in the "eyes of the law" they are treated the same for, crimes, both misdemeanor and felonies and for the purpose of sexual consent at the age of 17 and 22.

More importantly, 28 is not the same as a 50 something year old President of the United States.

Selective moral outrage - the signature of your party.

Craig = Bad, Frank = Good , Bush alcohol use = Bad, Obama drug use = 'growing experience' .... you still have a quite a way to grow there Hack.

Be consistent King.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 11:07am.

The difference here is the 17 year old is a minor, and if it was my daughter involved the cops would have to put him in protective custody or one of us would be in jail for manslaughter. This is once more a mistake by our DA, there had to be something to convict this clown on, I would rather the DA try and lose then not try at all.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 11:53am.

But the age of consent in Georgia is 16. Regardless, as a student she is under the direct control and supervision of this sicko and that ALONE would make it immoral, irresponsible and reprehensible. Personally and professionally, I believe that it IS possible to prosecute him.

This young lady is a victim regardless, of a 'would be' predator and was (thankfully) intelligent and mature enough to make the right decision.

As for Miss Lewinski: if there is a man in America who thinks that Monika Lewinski would have even taken a second look at Bill Clinton if he was a garbage man .... then they have a lot to learn. He used his position and power to victimize Lewinski IMHO.

Again, my opinion is that they were BOTH victims of a predator and for the third time - they should both be castrated.

Obviously some here feel otherwise. I personally don't like blaming victims for the actions of predators.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


Submitted by words on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 3:20pm.

I am a student at whitewater and i personally know this "victim." She's not as innocent as you think. This happenening to her isn't a surprise to me at all. It takes two to have an affair.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 11:13am.

Hutch, I agree with you that I'd like to have seen this guy go to trial.

I think Ballard overplayed his hand. This guy wasn't a pseudo-gangbanger that he could railroad on felony charges into jail. He was charged with something pertaining to his official duties as a teacher, so wouldn't the county pick up his legal bill?

Secondly, if he was indeed found "not guilty" because there wasn't enough evidence to convict him of a felony, wouldn't Heintz then have recourse to sue to get his job back and/or demand a cash settlement. I don't know...I am not a lawyer and don't pretend to be one (unlike some folks here)
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Submitted by sniffles5 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 5:37am.

Perhaps Truthsloth is devoted to "truth" the way the Fox Nutwork is devoted to "fair and balanced" reporting.

You can't help but smile and wonder how anyone with an IQ over room temperature could ever take their factually inaccurate blather seriously!
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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 8:21am.

What I am thinking is that it angers you liberals when you are called on your hypocrisy. When your daughter is 22 and her powerful supervisor / boss of 50 something is having her in to the office for cigars you too will realize that it is every bit as sick and immoral as a teacher of 28 approaching a student of 17.

The truth of the matter is they are both sick predators that need to be castrated. The difference between you and me on this issue is that I am consistent about my outrage and you are selective based on political affiliation.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 5:52am.

You forgot to log in as Mainly Extreme, or are you plagiarizing her, too?

Submitted by Main Stream: "truthsloth....are you back?"

Is this another example of your "original thought"? Laughing out loud


Just who is “Sniffles”?
Puzzled


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Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:00am.

I'm pleased that Sniffles and Hack both answered for me, as I was not even about to address truthsloth's sickening post and his subtle approval of pedophilia.

Yes, I coined the name 'Truthsloth' and I'm happy Sniffles borrows the name when posting... it's so appropriate!


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 8:27am.

Did you get flushed when Denise caught you in your womens mode?

Condemn Clinton in the same terms you condemned this freak or admit you are a hypocrite ... it's simple- like you.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by sniffles5 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 10:52am.

Yeah, yeah, we know. Lose your argument, try and turn it into a referendum on Bill Clinton. *yawn*

Tell you what, tsloth, scroll down to Nuk1's "Consistent Outrage" post and read the first two paragraphs. I couldn't have said it any better.
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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 7:17am.

Call me James Frey or Margaret Jones, but based on this last post defending a child predator, I feel Truthsloth is quite appropriate

cheers, Main, and realize that as long as this breed of cat is attacking you, you are doing something right, like condemning pedophiles.

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 8:24am.

Be man enough to be consistent when you see a male predator.

Without someone willing to call people like you on your absurd defense of Clinton you would continue to bask in your selective self-righteous indignation. Again: The truth of the matter is they are both sick predators that need to be castrated. The difference between you and me on this issue is that I am consistent about my outrage and you are selective based on political affiliation.

If you are not smart enough to read the entire blog and know how I feel about the issue - try blogging to Sage.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.


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Submitted by NUK_1 on Wed, 03/05/2008 - 9:26am.

There is only one victim in this discussion, and that's a 17 year old in HS. Monica Lewinsky was an adult and 22, legally and seemingly capable of making moral decisions on her own. She wasn't a MINOR. It's easy to say that Bill Clinton is serious slime because he is, but that situation was between two consenting ADULTS. Last I checked, he was impeached due to that, disgraced,lost his license to practice law, had his previous lies about Gennifer Flowers exposed, had to pay off another skank, etc. I don't think he went unpunished and the extent of the punishment wasn't decided by Clinton...it was decided by other Dems,Repubs, and a judicial system who didn't think further punishment was necessary. That's the way the process works.

In this case, the teacher gets humiliation and is allowed to resign. Not fired, not jailed, not even at this point accused of a crime. Besides the fact that a lot of people now know he's a freak in Fayette, he's free to roam around elsewhere and there's a pretty good chance he'll escape attention wherever he winds up.

The outrage I see is that nationwide there are numerous stories like this loser's and the punishment is hardly ever commensurate to their acts. Many a female teacher has been busted for having sex with her minor pupils who were well below even the age of consent and received nothing more than a lost job and a probated sentence. The fact that a male teacher gets the same type of nothing punishment DOES surprise me, but I guess the fact that he never had a chance to follow through with his intentions and it was just text messages some how "saved" him from further punishment. Disgusting.


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