Rep. Fludd immediately threw down the race card by bringing up the Civil Rights act. He spoke as if minorities in Fayette County are being denied the right to vote. He also brought up the fact that minority (black) businesses have not been awarded very many county work contracts. He didn't offer any facts as to whether or not there were any qualified minority businesses bidding on the contracts or if there were enough workers working for the businesses that were bidding on the contracts. No, Rep Fludd seemed more interested in having the contracts awarded based on racial quotas rather than experience and expertise. That suggestion, in and of itself, is racist and he should be ashamed of himself for bringing it up.

The FCC (Fayette County Crackpot) Alice Jones stood in front of 5 County Representatives (who represent her) and implied that she was not being represented. ("I want someone who represents ME", pointing to herself.) The implication, in my opinion, was that she was not going to be satisfied until someone with her skin color was elected.
These folks didn't offer up any qualified candidates for the post; it seems that they just want a Democrat voted in for power's sake and because they are a bunch of racists hell bent on turning our beautiful county into another cesspool like Clayton County.

Maybe we could let them take over the BOE, I understand Clayton County will have some unemployed Board Members.... One step closer to Clayette County.

"Rep. Fludd immediately threw down the race card by bringing up the race".

"Elmer Fudd" using the race card is a Jessie and Al deal. But you guys brought it on yourselves, Georgia and Atlanta especially. If they threaten to sue, you guys act like the boogie man is coming rather than stand up to them. If they don't get their way in a fair election, then the election is no good and they are going to FORCE one of their own down your throat. How stupid is that! It is ludicrous that you give them attention on this. The equal rights deal was created with the idea in mind that if 2 people had equal qualifications, the black would get the job. The way you are letting them interpret the law is a joke, currently, if 2 people show up, one is qualified and white, one is black and not, you give it to the black! Same with your kids, you are letting them get away with adding 20points on to college entrance if you are black. That is insane, the only way this should/could be justified is if you can prove the black IQ, on a whole 20 points lower than a whites! If you can't, then why the Hell give them 20 points and knock your kid out of college? I'm telling you, Georgia and Atlanta disgust me, you have no fighting spirit and will not stand up for what is right! That being not letting them walk all over you and yours.

Fudd and his type are bullies and you are silly to treat them as anything else.

This very thing has me scared if Obama gets elected. I think this country will be ruined and we will look something like the movie "Blood Diamonds". There are nice blacks, those aren't the ones you are dealing with here!

"This very thing has me scared if Obama gets elected. I think this country will be ruined and we will look something like the movie "Blood Diamonds". There are nice blacks, those aren't the ones you are dealing with here!"

Let me very sincerely tell you that in your world, if you are honest with yourself, a good black most likely doesn't exist. How dare this elected representative fight for a cause they believe in? The black guy will turn this great nation into the western horn of Africa?! What a pathetic and ignorant comment to make. Yet it is your right as an American to make it. Wow!

Kevin "Hack" King

Do college/school officials actually add 20 to a college application or test if the person claims to be black??

Why?

Are college officials saying or implying that a black persons IQ is twenty points lower than any other race??

I hope this is something you just made up, and that this is not actual practice.

this is a school up north I googled just now to show you, Ga has the same deal.

Racial diversity at college

1.27.2001 00:23

The Providence Journal

A federal district court judge in Detroit last month approved the University of Michigan's admissions policy, which, to achieve diversity, grants explicit preferences to applicants from specified racial and ethnic groups. Judge Patrick Duggan's ruling regarding public universities seems to counter a 1996 appeals court judgment, in the Hopwood case, that the race-based admissions preferences aimed at achieving diversity at the University of Texas law school were unconstitutional. The U.S. Supreme Court probably will have to resolve the matter.

A 23-year-old white woman, Jennifer Gratz, on applying for admission, was denied entrance in 1995 into what is generaly considered the university's flagship campus, in Ann Arbor. (She subsequently attended the less prestigious campus in Dearborn.) She appealed her rejection from Ann Arbor on the basis that the state was denying her the equal protection of the laws required by the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. Candidates are rated on a 150-point scale.

While mainly judged on their academic background, like all others, applicants from what are considered "underrepresented minorities" -- specifically blacks, Hispanics and American Indians -- are automatically given 20 bonus points on account of their racial/ethnic origins. (By the way, this intentionally leaves out Asian-American applicants, even though they are an obvious racial minority.

Evidently, sufficient numbers of them -- whatever that means -- qualify for admission without needing bonus points for their racial origins.) Applicants can also receive bonus points for a variety of other factors: e.g., those from poor families, 20 points; recruited athletes, 20 points; Michigan residents, 10 points; children of alumni, 4 points; those with special personal achievements, 3 points.

However, these factors are not based on racial or ethnic background. A recruited athlete, say, gets the extra 20 points regardless of race or ethnicity -- although, obviously, recruits for the basketball team are more likely to be black than white, and vice versa for hockey recruits. As a result, the only aspect of the bonus system challenged on constitutional grounds was its explicit use of racial and ethnic categories to grant -- or withhold -- extra points.

In upholding the University of Michigan's admissions system, Judge Duggan emphasized what he considered the decisive benefits, for all concerned, of a racially and ethnically diverse student body. We believe that such purported benefits are real, although vastly exaggerated. And we believe that diversity can be measured in many ways, perhaps most importantly by diversity of ideas and interests, rather than confining it, in a rather condescending way, to skin color and/or ethnic affiliation.

The question is not so much the state's allegedly "compelling interest" in promoting diversity at Ann Arbor but its constitutional duty to grant applicants -- such as, in this case, Jennifer Gratz -- the equal protection of the laws. Michigan's approach comes down to this: giving some applicants an automatic 20-point bonus (more than 10 percent of the 150-point entrance scale) simply because they have the favored racial or ethnic characteristics, and thereby forcing the rejection of some other applicants -- whites and Asians -- because they don't come from favored racial or ethnic groups.

That does not sound to us like equal protection of the laws.

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this is a school up north I googled just now to show you, Ga has the same deal.

Might want to do a bit more investigating, promprincess. Your information is from 2001. In 2003, five years ago, the US Supreme Court declared the automatic 20-point minority bonus to be unconstitutional.

So Georgia does NOT have "the same deal".
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Don't Click This Link, Denise!

I just got in. I didn't make it up. I copied the web site complete with the guys address. I didn't know that rule had been struck down. I thought it was still in efect. I didn't check the dates.

That is racism out of control. So school officials assume that blacks, hispanics, and American Indians, are not capable of competing with other students based on merit? Wow.

Not only is this reverse racism, but it is racist to say that any race of people are not competent enough to compete on an even playing field. This is America 2008!

Someone types some manure up, serves it on a plate, and because it portrays us minorities negatively you are more than willing to consume it. If I didn't care about your opinions, if I thought there was no hope, I wouldn't bother to engage you. Don't believe every bad thing offered by those grinding axes, and discredit every good that comes from brown, calloused hands

Kevin "Hack" King

I didn't know it had been taken off the books. It WAS the law and a very bad one at that.

I don't care if you like or dislike what I say because it is my opinion just as you are entitled to yours.

I feel this district voting is motivated by race and Elmer Fudd has his own agenda. I feel its wrong to give preferential treatment to one group because of something that happened 200 years ago.

Every group has taken their knocks. I feel it is like saying this group can't make it any other way.

If you feel district voting is right, I'm sure you wouldn't have played the race card like Fudd did. He and Jessie and Al are making a career out of this and it is BS.

I'm also glad this practice was declared unconstitutional in 2003.

Larry Elder's book deals with the topic of myths surrounding all races. I wish he had picked a different title, which is frankly very offensive. I think because of the title most people won't read it. He actually provides sources or footnotes for his theories presented.

Anyway, Hack I do value your opinion. Even though many times we have to agree to disagree, you do provide an interesting informative perspective.

I hope you heal quickly, now get out and enjoy this day. It is beautiful. Have a good one.

Maybe the title was designed to parody Michael Moore's book STUPID WHITE MEN?

I appreciate the well wishes! What a beauty of a day. We all could use a little relaxation out under this clear, sunny sky. Enjoy the day!

Kevin "Hack" King

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I saw your comment about Larry Elders, I think I will buy the book= look at this:

click here- very interesting.

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You little search engine you....good job. I have just recently started to read his book. He does provide links to to back up his statments and make his points.

He is like a breath of fresh air, when it comes to dealing with race relations in America.

Most American blacks don't seem to want to hear his message. I'm reading his recent book "Stupid Black Men" the title is very offensive, even to me and I'm not a black male. He makes some very valid points one is that minorities are being exploited by the very people who claim to be helping them. He sites many examples to prove his point.

This guy is refreshingly honest.

I found this interesting: I think it speaks for itself.

click here- humm commitment to white?????

That Pin???? Wow, what a answer for not wearing a USA flag pin. click here

What is wrong with this guy?????

Yes WE Can! Ha!click here

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and I must say that once again I'm concerned for you. Do you know how foolish the arguments put forth here were? When Alan makes someone look so foolish for judging the faith of a man he has never met, judging a church he has never visited, and attributing a church website to its most famous member, you know you have a weak argument. BPR, this, I must say, was a pathetic showing. Stick to the "present" votes if you want to damage Barack.

Kevin "Hack" King

BPR provided some very valid links. BPR is not the only one who is asking these questions.

I have voted Democrat for the 16yrs. and I'm sad to say I don't think I can do that this time. obama's affiliation with this church is very concerning. Hitler went to church too. He also used the bible to justify his actions against Jewish people. obama listens to a minister who has been repeatedly heard calling white people the "blue-eyed devil", if I remeber one interview correctly. One of his sermons was titled "Death to White America" How do you justify that???
ANY racism is BAD and WRONG and very very DANGEROUS!!! obama is listening to this filth every Sunday. Not good no matter how you try to slice it.

If we do not learn from history we are DOOMED to repeat it.!

I'm not voting Democrat this time for several reasons, one of which I don't want my hard earned money shared with people who don't want to work. No neither clinton or obama has said they will raise taxes. However with all of the freebies they want to promise the American people, that is the only way I can see to pay for any of their "programs". They have not offered one viable idea as to how they are going to pay for their big ideas for "change". Yes they want change, but who is going to pay for it???

You don't have to be concerned about me.

We see things different.

You saw my links different than what I saw them, that is fine.

Again- the church web page speaks for itself-

The Pastor speaks for himself on the link-

We see it different- that is okay to disagree.

Hope you are feeling better

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But is BPR linking us to HONEST criticism?

First we have a man that questions Obama's very faith; questions whether or not Obama is a Christian. Turns out he has never talked to Obama. He has NEVER visited the Church. He went to a web site and then declared himself an expert on Barack's salvation. Is that Biblical?

Next we have a fringe professor whom I've never heard of in my life. Yet, because I didn't protest words I did not know he said I've given silent approval to his message? Is that an intellectually honest argument? And Skyspy, you are going to ignore John McCain's embracing an endorsement from a man who thinks the Catholic Church is a "prostitute" without scrutiny? Sorry buddy, the only one who can judge a man's faith in my concept of reality is God. I'm comfortable with that. If a man proclaims Christ, I will not put myself in line to face God's wrath by supposing to know his soul. I think you've shaken some sense into me if Hillary is the nominee. I had a McCain moment of weakness, but you've scared me back to my witts.

Kevin "Hack" King

I am not questioning his faith. I question what he being taught to believe about white people in the "name of God" and there is a difference.

When hannity interviewed the minister of Trinity un-united church. He admitted to several stunning mission statements.

He says his church is committed to "black" family values, the promotion of "black" run buisnesses, dedicated to the development and support of africa, the support of "black" education.

If any other church in America said they were dedicated to the support of "white" family values, supporting "white" owned buisnesses, support of "white" education. ....the country would be on a rampage to stop it and rightly so. I think more people are becoming concerned since the interview on hannity.

Hack what is a "black" family value?

No, I'm not happy with a knucklehead who thinks the catholic religion is a prostitiute. If McCains church was preaching support of just one race of people I would be very concerned and I would vote for Nader, I might do that anyway.

Again if we do not learn from history we are DOOMED to repeat it!!

American is a big melting pot, and I don't think God sees race. I don't know of any bible verse that condones racism. Some of our churchy people will have to help us out with that one.

Have a good day. Read a book or something, enjoy listening to the rain.

you might want to take a look at this one {hope the link works, my first atttempt} Keep the faith.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wcotc1.htm

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

The link didn't work, but I'll just type in the address.

strike another blow for technological illiteracy LOL. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

You are correct with your comments about faith. As a matter of fact your are correct with all that you had on your post about this subject.

I have a meeting I have to drive to North Atlanta to- so later.

Have a nice day.

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Have a good day.

Thanks for the information about Larry Elders- I am going to buy his book- Again, from what I see and have read on Larry Elders he has done his research and knows what he is talking about- and I am thankful he's does not care what anyone says.

Gotta go- or I will be late-

Sky- I'm staying.

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Wow BPR, yet another one of your attacks on a Christian church (this time via Sean Hannity).

You sure seem to dislike some Christians.
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Don't Click This Link, Denise!

Please define what a Christian is? Read Obama's church homepage- everyone I see or ask has a problem with it - btw I have friends of different race- they have problems with it.

I love Christians and ALL people- they don't have to be a Christian.
People are valuable- just because you disagree with a church belief does not mean you hate and attack them- you have questions-BTW- which Hannity tried to ask Obama's Pastor which kept on ranting and would not even answer them. I just want him to answer Hannity's and my questions. I put it up the other day, I am sure you saw it.

Say what you want- you just did not like what I put up both times. That's okay you are entitled to your opinion.

Have a nice evening- it is a nice day.
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Are you losing your mind too!!!??? besides, she is signed on as MainExtreme right now and is talking to herself.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.

Judge not lest ye be judged. Let's start there. Oh, and there are also some things having to do with speaking false words aka lying.

Kevin "Hack" King

Actually, the context is critical: "In the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure [the standard] you use, it will be measured to you."

"Then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye." (The action of "removing," which is an act of compassion, is required after judging yourself.)

"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

"Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves,
for the rights of all who are destitute.
Speak up and judge fairly;
defend the rights of the poor and needy."

To judge means to bring to issue the reasoning or deliberations of the mind; to compare facts or ideas, and perceive their agreement or disagreement, and thus to distinguish truth from falsehood. A judge should be one capable of making rational, dispassionate, and wise decisions.

If so, please restate whatever it is you are trying to say to me. You completely lost me.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.

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We See things different. There's alot of scripture I could give you, but I choose not to do that.

It's all about our opinion-

Have a nice evening.

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I'm not loosing my mind- just had to ask- to see what kind of answer I would get this time around - I already know what kind I will get. It changes all the time. I know that- let's see what they say.

It's always different every time I read it on here with the definition of what they believe.

Have a good day.

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"You sure seem to dislike some Christians."

LOL... (another score for Sniffles)

I think the Larry Elders interview got to some people not to all but to some - plus the questions Hannity asked Obama's pastor??????

I do have some questions for Obama's pastor just like Hannity that he would not answer. All he had to do was answer the questions.

BTW- Remember if you had read carefully you would have read I love all Christians and people who are not Christians. All people have value.

Again all people have value.

click here Ebony and Ivory- how about not on a piano but in life everyday ?????

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You both just returned the same ping in the same amount of time from the same location. Signing off as one and back on as the other isn't helping your cause any.

You have some serious personality disorder and you should seek help immediately - Code 93 - ASAP - NOW!

(Oh, tell Locke hi while you are there too.)

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.

You have no way of knowing what my IP address is, Tsloth.

I'll prove it the next time you and I are online together, too.

I'll take a screen shot with a time/date stamp on it and load it up to flicker.

Then you can post "my" IP address for all to see.

I'll then give everyone the URL for my IP address photo.

They won't match. I guarantee you.

And I will have made you look stupid.

Once again.

You are a liar, plain and simple. Small wonder you washed out of law enforcement.
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Don't Click This Link, Denise!

Same thing I said. No way he is pinging me like he claimed because I know way more about computers than he obviously does. However, I had him pegged for a teenager or maybe a little older based on the level of his comments. Do you know for a fact that he is an adult and was up for a real job? I may owe him an apology.

The fact that he is trying to sniff out other blogger's IP addresses is pathetic on the face of it. Just a small-town bully trying to intimidate other people.

It doesn't really matter who we really are, it's the truth or falsehood of what we say that matters. I think it was Muddle that said that a few months ago.

Well, TruthSleuth need to do a lot more sleuthing, because he is certainly missing the truth at present.

{{{{{{{{EDITED & WARNED -- This poster has crossed the line from disagreement to bullying. Any more trackdowns of IP addresses and personal info that gets onto this site will result in the offending poster being banned.

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I have something much better in mind for basmati/Locke/sniffy whomever he is that day - Look for the public challenge coming soon!

Meanwhile - enjoy the sniffy/Locke/basmati plagiarisms by reading the links below:

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Angry and often proven wrong.

"You both just returned the same ping in the same amount of time from the same location. Signing off as one and back on as the other isn't helping your cause any."

Wrong-o....buck-o

You are sounding as paranoid, and retarded, as dense-ise. Do you really spend your time checking 'pings' and sign-on locales?

YOU are the one with the disorder, wacko.

He doesn’t spend his time doing either. He knows as much about computers as he does everything else. First of all, how is he possibly going to check sign-on locales? Preposterous. Secondly, saying he has pinged my computer proves his total ignorance of Internet Control Message Protocol.

Show me how good you are sloth; post my ip address that you claim to have been pinging.

I think what we have here is a young person who doesn’t know very much yet and understands considerably less than that.

I suggest you listen again- Hannity is correct. You only listen to liberal part- Colmes.

BTW Hannity is a Christian. Is that why you made that remark- Hannity proves his point- just because he did not say what you wanted to hear listen to Colmes- he's more your style- that program is designed that way.

I think your angry about Larry Elders I put up.

We all have our opinions.

Have a nice day.

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"....since some currenty dead white men who I never met, took away your black great, great grandfather's right to vote..."

Judith Moore is Caucasian. Just thought you might want to know, for future reference.

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but the concept under which they are going after the 'you owe me' is Black entitlement. The whole black entitlement is disgusting.

"Man, the fact this woman is white and you tried to paint her as the heir of slaves made you look like an absolute fool, Mudcat."

Or, you can explan to me what I feel I'm entitled to; a vote on district voting not actually being an entitlement.

Kevin "Hack" King