District Voting and Barack Obama

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What is happening today in Fayette was happening in Chicago 30 years ago. In fact, its happening all across America.

One of the few "achievements" for which we are supposed to give Obama the keys to the White House, is his work as a "community organizer". No, this isn't a person that comes into your home to straighten up your closets or garage. Nor to pick up trash along the highways in and around your community. No, a community organizer was someone who beat the drums of discontent, where before there was none.

Both Hillary and more importantly, Barack are followers of Saul Alinsky. Hillary wrote her hidden thesis on him while at Wesleyan college and Barack literally followed each of the tenets of Alinsky's rules for four years while working in Chicago.

For all practical purposes, a community organizer is a person that comes into a community from the "outside", as Barack did when he returned to the Chicago inner city after his college. (Why didn't her return to his home in Hawaii? Because as he has said, he wanted to experience a real African American lifestyle, which explains much of his other behavior.) So off to the inner cities he went. To be a community organizer sounds so very humble. You know, helping people fill out forms to receive benefits, driving food to the shut ins, helping children in the schools. But this isn't what Barack was doing, at least it wasn't his real goal. It was to follow the teachings of Saul Alinsky.

Alinsky's methods of "organizing a community" is unique and he is considered the founder of this movement.

"Obama answered a help-wanted ad for a position as a community organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago. Obama was 24 years old, unmarried, very accustomed to a vagabond existence, and according to his memoir, searching for a genuine African-American community.

Both the CCRC and the DCP were built on the Alinsky model of community agitation, wherein paid organizers learned how to "rub raw the sores of discontent," in Alinsky's words.

One of Obama's early mentors in the Alinsky method was Mike Kruglik, who had this to say to an Ryan Lizza of The New Republic, about Obama:

"He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation, who could engage a room full of recruiting targets in a rapid-fire Socratic dialogue, nudging them to admit that they were not living up to their own standards. As with the panhandler, he could be aggressive and confrontational. With probing, sometimes personal questions, he would pinpoint the source of pain in their lives, tearing down their egos just enough before dangling a carrot of hope that they could make things better."
"The agitator's job, according to Alinsky, is first to bring folks to the "realization" that they are indeed miserable, that their misery is the fault of unresponsive governments or greedy corporations, then help them to bond together to demand what they deserve, and to make such an almighty stink that the dastardly governments and corporations will see imminent "self-interest" in granting whatever it is that will cause the harassment to cease."
"In these methods, euphemistically labeled "community organizing," Obama had a four-year education, which he often says was the best education he ever got anywhere."

In other words, a community organizer, like Obama, was to come into a community and raise so many issues and to get the populace's blood boiling such that they would then do whatever he wanted.

In Fayette County, At-Large Voting has worked since its inception. Even when the Democrats controlled it for the vast majority of the last 150 years, no one complained about it, but now, the community organizers are beating the drums of discontent and making an issue out of nothing.

They say that we are only one of three counties that have it. That's proof enough for me to suggest that maybe the other 156 counties should follow our model, since Fayette is by far, the nicest place to live in Georgia. But not for the Democrats. The reason is, they haven't "Claytonized" Fayette yet. That is, to take complete control of the sheriff's office, the commissioner's office, of the school board etc. They want ultimate control. It isn't about black or white; it isn't about being properly represented; it's about power. And since blacks tend to vote for the Democrat 90% of the time, they have framed this issue around a racially charged ones, rather than in the truth, and that is, that it's all about Democratic power.

Obama has stirred the embers of America into a roaring fire of discontent, just like Steve Brown and other "community organizers" are trying to do here in Fayette. That's a damn shame. We have it good here, very good. Those of you who listen to such rubbish are destined to never truly be happy in your own condition of life, since you are so easily stirred by inflammatory rhetoric. Whether its coming from a pastor that drives around in one of a dozen luxury automobiles, assailing the plight of the poor, or a slick talking U.S. Senator from Illinois who has no real world experience other than in "community organizing". You will never truly find peace of mind. Because inner peace doesn't come from what the Government can do for you, it comes from what you can do for yourself, unrestricted by oppressive governmental policies, unrestricted by bloated governmental agencies, as we find in Clayton, where so many of the elected officials are uneducated and inexperienced community organizers who really have no idea what they are really doing. Beating the drums of discontent might help to get out the vote or to even get you elected, but its no way to lead.

These tactics remind me of what a professor once told me years ago. He was visiting Israel and he had noticed a sheep herder crossing a busy highway. The sheep followed his lead because they knew he had been a proven leader, protecting them, taking them to greener pastures. He compared this to America, where our cattle farmers herd their cattle by striking the cows on their rumps at the back of the herd. These cows then moaned and groaned and then pushed their way forward, in a direction presumably where the rancher wanted them to go. The comparison is real. To truly lead, one need only to honestly say what you mean and mean what you say, and the people will follow. Or, one can merely mimic Obama or Alinsky's style and become a cow herder, and rap the rear ends of the discontented voters with catchy phrases, such as "Yes we can". Symbolism over substance often wins the day, but to what ends?

These community organizers are slick. They prey upon the uninformed and they play them for fools. Remember, there is always ulterior motives for these people. Whether its to add another Rolls Royce to their garage, or to get Democrats elected with their emotional rhetoric, they will always know that you have been bought and paid for with lies and half truths. They will then fall back with charges of racism and voter disenfranchisement if they are ever exposed for the frauds that they really are.

The Community Organizers have complete control of Clayton County, do you really what them to control Fayette as well.

Remember the same Party that is demanding District Voting and talking about the individual rights of their base, also have on a national level, "super community organizers" a.k.a. Super delegates, who will overturn the votes of the masses to do what they need to do to maintain control. Not much of a democracy to me.

references from wikipedia.org and www.americanthinker.com

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JeffC's picture
Submitted by JeffC on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 4:52pm.

It’s really weird to read your stuff and try to imagine how you come up with an analogy or a fact and then draw the completely wrong lesson from it.

It is Obama who is the leader here. It is Obama who is winning every election by huge margins, drawing huge crowds, raising virtually unlimited amounts of money and drawing votes from all demographic groups. That’s a leader.

It is your party that is moaning and groaning about their candidate. It is your party leaders out there beating the cows on their rumps at the back of the herd trying to get them to follow along. Have you been listening to the people who provide the intellectual underpinnings of your party lately? Rush, Sean, Mike, Laura? They are not happy Richard, not happy at all.

To what end the symbolism over substance? Didn’t you hear when Obama explained it? It’s so that you, Richard, can be the change you seek!


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 5:36pm.

"try to imagine" -- Try really thinking and maybe some analogy exercises -- much more productive! And I thought that you libs were the more creative ones. Eye-wink

Were these words of yours "symbolism over substance"?

"Really Denise, if you read this and care to respond in the future, you should do your own homework and know or semi-know what you're for or against (and why) to the point of defending it beyond one post. Sometimes, using facts will help, especially if they are on your side. Study Richard Hobbs blogs."

Thanks again for the advice. I understand what Richard is saying, but maybe it's because he's "using facts" and has "done his homework," including analogies. Laughing out loud


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 8:10pm.

Denise, I don't know if I know you or not, but I certainly enjoy your comments.

JeffC is tough skinned enough to take it without losing his temper, unlike many of my other liberal friends, so your last dig, was ever the more sweeter.

Gees, JeffC, beaten with your own words, and by a dang woman! You really do need to sneak out of the house, TiVo Democracy Now on Channel 3348 of the satellite system that you are given by the DNC, and find your way to my home. Here you will enjoy a dozen Yuenglings, to help you with the stinging pain, that we Swiftboaters on the Right call the truth.

"Yes, You Can!"


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 8:16pm.

I learn so much from your blogs. Jeff probably does, too, especially when you explain and re-explain them to him. But he'd never admit it. Laughing out loud


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 5:24pm.

All I can say Jeff, is if you are having a problem following the logic, then there is a reason why, which again reminds me of this exchange.

Pete: Wait a minute. Who elected you leader of this outfit?

Ulysses Everett McGill: Well Pete, I figured it should be the one with the capacity for abstract thought. But if that ain't the consensus view, then hell, let's put it to a vote.

Pete: Suits me. I'm voting for yours truly.

Ulysses Everett McGill: Well I'm voting for yours truly too.

[Everett and Pete look at Delmar for the deciding vote]
Delmar O'Donnell: Okay... I'm with you fellas.

I've got a twelve pack of Yueng Ling at my home. When you're ready to get down with it, then come on over and lets argue till the cows come home.

Oh, and bring your ping pong paddle.


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Submitted by JeffC on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 7:20pm.

Premium or Traditional Lager? Please, please don't say "Light".


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 7:59pm.

No, its the regular Lager, but I also have the very smooth Black and Tan as well. It's their dark and it's wonderful.

Unfortunately, the beer gods don't allow Yuengling in Georgia, so we have to smuggle...er, import them through various friends and family who venture across the state lines to our east.

The allure of illegal liquor perhaps makes it taste even sweeter.


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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 12:25pm.

Since I'll be leaving my wine (French of course) at home, should I bring some nice goat cheese or just some Brie?


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 2:22pm.

Seriously JeffC,

I enjoy our arguments, you seem to handle it very well with a thick skin and a dry wit, two qualities I find admirable. Add to this the fact that we are as far opposite, politically, as I can imagine, and I think we would have some good Monty Python's arguments. (Just stay away from the door designated "Getting hit over the head!".

So my invitation is real and is open to you and to any others who are, shall we say, not taking this stuff too seriously.

I won't name names, but some on this blog really need to chill out. Sure we talk about passionate issues, but we are all still Americans, except of course for those hypenated ones, I haven't figured out who their allegience is to.

So the invite is on. Git Real, if you care to "expose" yourself, Muddle, Denise, Hack, and all of the other quality debaters that we know, but whom I can not remember are also invited, except of course for Cal Beverly, aka dollar/sage. He is absolutely forbidden.

We've got the hot tub boiling right now. By tonight, it will be perfect.

I'll have the praying rugs out, so that when your one of your seven daily devotional prayers to Messiah Obama comes around, you won't have to get your knees dirty.

How 'bout it? Any real takers?

For those of you who think better of this, remember, "Yes You Can!"

Depending on the response, I'll reply later. If not tonight, maybe one nice evening in the near future.

Oh, included in the illegal beer, are several slot machines, but don't tell anyone, thats likely illegal too.


Submitted by sageadvice on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 3:51pm.

I saw my moniker mingled in there with Cal Beverly as not being invited! Whew, I don't know how I would have gotten out of it politely if you hadn't done that!

Because, if you think that I would wander over to someone's house, whom I don't know, and crawl into a nasty hot tub with such as you invited, then you would be nuts!

Anyway I have never liked beer or wine! Quality debaters or no!

Anyway, I don't debate. Just pour out the facts as they should be.

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Submitted by JeffC on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 3:48pm.

Isn’t that the dreadful stuff they store in warehouses until we liberals can get it distributed to poor welfare recipients in continuation of the almost impossible quest to improve their lives?

Sorry, can’t make it tonight. We’ll have to make it some other time. Thanks for the invite.

And never mind about the rugs. Obama never allows the dirt to stain our knees.


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Submitted by TinCan on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 8:37pm.

You bring back some fond memories of my youth. Riding the back roads of central PA with my grandfather, in his '47 Ford, to make his periodic Yuengling run to the local distributor. Well maybe periodic is the wrong word, could be called routine I suppose.


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Submitted by ImJustSaying on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 3:20pm.

Richard Hobbs, I believe in your paragraph that begins, "In Fayette County..." you meant to write "at-large voting" instead of "district voting", not?


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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 4:27pm.

Appreciate it. I'm spending way too much time on this dang blog, and I did mistakedly type the wrong term, now corrected.

Thanks for the proof read.

Richard Hobbs


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