Why Obama will beat McCain

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Without question, this election is the Democrats to lose. That being said, I believe the Democratic candidate is likely to give John McCain a beat-down of epic proporations, no matter who it is. After all, this is the Democrats election to lose considering how much of a failure this current GOP administration has been in the past 8 years.

Hillary Clinton would beat Senator McCain, mainly because of Senator McCain being . . . well Senator McCain. Here's a guy who has tied himself to this extremely unpopular war in Iraq and has told anyone who'll listen that he would have no probem if we stayed in Iraq for another hundred years. It's hard to imagine a more unpopular position to base your campaign on in the general election. In fact, I think the guy is a total nut job for even attempting such a suicidal strategy.

Though Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton would score easy points against McCain on this issue, Obama has a clear advantage here. Sen. McCain can turn around and accuse Sen. Clinton of being just as complicit in the drive to war because she also voted for the resolution that authorized the Iraq War. Whereas, Obama can say McCain showed poor judgment in going into Iraq in the first place and McCain has no defense to that . . . absolutely none. Sure he could argue that the "surge" has had some successes, but isn't that like saying, "the only real way out of the mistake of the war is .... more war. Good luck with that strategy.

Secondly, the right-wing base is extremely "cold" on the idea of John McCain representing their party. In fact, many absolutely HATE him for floundering and "flip-flopping". His position on issues seems to blow in whatever direction the political wind is blowing. Conservative talk show hosts, pundits and bloggers have spent the last couple of months just absolutely pummeling McCain and declaring WAR on the Republican party if they dare to run McCain. Here's the real kicker, now conservatives are being asked by their party to put lipstick on a pig and sell him off as the prom King! Sorry, I don't roll like that. In my opinion, the only thing that can re-energize them to back his candidacy is -- Hillary Clinton.

Now, this is a little unfair to Sen. Clinton because personally, I don't think she's done anything to earn that animus. She's polarizing only because Republicans have spent the better part of two decades attacking her and her husband, and trying to turn the American people against them like some Salem witch hunt.

However, fair or unfair, the right-wing can't wait to go to war against Hillary. On the other hand, if it's Obama versus McCain, I think there's a very good chance that the Republicans might dislike McCain more. This has got to be a major liability when you are trying to rally your own side in a general election.

Finally, according to the polls, voters are overwhelmingly in favor of change this election cycle. Obama is clearly the candidate of change and all things "feel good.". If Clinton is running, McCain could almost make an argument that you would get more change from his presidency than you would under another Clinton administration. I think that argument would be wrong, but why open the door?

Overall, Democrats can make it easier on themselves this year by picking the one candidate that seems to be creating the massive and diverse following known as OBA-MANIA or OBAMA FEVER. I'm confident they'll win either way, but why take the risk? Obama is the better candidate to run against McCain, who is all but assured to be the Republican candidate in the fall.

By picking Obama, the Democrats can make a strong and persuasive case that there is only one candidate who represents the face of a strong and diverse nation in the new mellenium. Only one self-made candidate who represents hard working middle America that also possesses the unique ability to inspire a country. Only one candidate that truly represents the American Dream in all of its profound glory, and only one candidate that can bring real ans sweeping change to Washington

-- Barack Obama.

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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 7:12pm.

I have a few questions for our learned bloggers JeffC and muddle.

What has louis farrakhan promised to obama??

More importantly what has obama promised louis farrakhan??

How will we find out?

Also JeffC I think we need you to pull the but "I'm an ex-presidents son" card to get the real story behind the sermon from Trinity United Church. The date of the "Death to White America" sermon was July 22 of 2007 if memory serves.(which it rarely does anymore)

I have not recieved a reply, also when I call I am put on hold. We need someone more important than the average citizen to make this call. What do you think?

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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:07pm.

Why would you think Obama promised Farrakhan anything to begin with? Did you watch the Ohio debate? Obama seemed pretty firm:

SEN. OBAMA: You know, I have been very clear in my denunciation of Minister Farrakhan's anti-Semitic comments. I think that they are unacceptable and reprehensible. I did not solicit this support.

This is not something new. This is something that -- I live in Chicago. He lives in Chicago. I've been very clear, in terms of me believing that what he has said is reprehensible and inappropriate. And I have consistently distanced myself from him.

Then after Clinton said it wasn’t strong enough, Obama followed up:

OBAMA: Tim, I have to say I don't see a difference between denouncing and rejecting. There's no formal offer of help from Minister Farrakhan that would involve me rejecting it. But if the word "reject" Senator Clinton feels is stronger than the word "denounce," then I'm happy to concede the point, and I would reject and denounce.

On a somewhat related point, Farrakhan’s endorsement is too late to be useful even if he had the power to influence people which he doesn’t because Obama already has them. Obama is a huge threat to the black “establishment” because he got there on his own merit without them. John Lewis, Andy Young, Al Sharpton, Jesse; all of them totally missed the boat. They went with the person they thought was going to be the winner instead of supporting the black guy. It would be extremely hard for any of them to convince me that they decided on their candidate on policy issues because the differences between Obama and Clinton are miniscule. They endorsed Clinton or stayed neutral to protect their power base not, in my opinion, because of any principles they might hold. They took a chance and they have now lost. Obama owes them exactly nothing. The new black leaders Obama is bringing into the mix are going to push the old guard out and make them irrelevant. Seems to me that if they are not terrified of Obama’s ascendancy they should be.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:35pm.

I agree with Sky. I enjoy reading your comments, and your sense of humor. Smiling

BTW is that cat shooting at squirrels or ?? Smiling

Submitted by skyspy on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:24pm.

Your reasoning makes sense. I enjoy reading your responses they are thought provoking. Definitly lend a different perspective.

The cynical side of me says we won't find out until its too late.

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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 9:21am.

I saw this and could not agree on it more- where has Michelle Obama been in the last 20 years- did she just knock her own party- Oh, I get it her husband is going to "Change the entire world?

I think Michelle should think before speaking since she is going to be First Lady? Maybe she was smoking too much when she said it?? What do you think? You can disagree we still live in the land of the free.

Shut the pie hole. Click here.

I leave with this and this is the way I feel:

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Thank you to all the service people that have served our country and the ones that still are and the ones that paid the price for our "Freedom" some of us appreciate that.

I think if Obama thinks he is the "Hope for the entire world and others think that as soon as that is clear I will change the bottom of my page- he does not agree with me on "Hope". Or I could explain my hope at the bottom.Smiling

Have a good day!

"Hope Changes Everything"

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 10:21am.

What a search engine you are. I have never heard of Glenn Beck.

Thank you for reminding us of the many things we have to be thankful for in the country.

Have a good day

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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 10:38am.

Glenn Beck, well I am waiting for the responses- either you value his opinion or you don't. But for me, if he can prove something- he's good at it- my husband informed me about him- I like him- some can't stand him- maybe he doesn't say what they want to hear? Hey but that's freedom huh? Hope we keep that!

Being Thankful!

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I love Mark Farner. I was a teenager in the late 70;s - this guy still sounds the same and I laugh how old can he be- still dancing.Smiling

I do like this group well with "Mark Farner" wish they would bring them to "The Fred"

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I just love music.Smiling

"Hope Changes Everything"

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:18pm.

this is well presented...and it is like you say, the black "vote" is certainly not unified right now. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 7:25pm.

I recently spoke to JeffC privately, he and I are in the same quilt sewing club, and so I'd ask you guys to keep this confidential, but anyway, JeffC told me his father had given his Super Delegate vote to Obama and that in turn Obama would return the favor and appoint Jimmah Carter as the Secretary of State. I mean look at Jimmah's foreign policy experience and you'd see a stark similarity.

JeffC also told me, "confidentially", that Jane Fonda was mulling over her appointment to be ambassador to Vietnam.

Yep, Obama's gonna bring the best qualities and leaders from the Democratic party, and shove 'em down our throats.

I wonder how Al Sharpton is going to do as the U.S. Attorney General, and how Jessie Jackson will handle the U.S. Treasury. Been looking forward to the new designs that he'll put on our currency.

Its gonna be a fun general election.

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Submitted by JeffC on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:24pm.

I said that Carter could NOT serve as Secretary of State because that would limit him to supporting whatever foreign policy the President came up with. Way to restrictive.

Jane’s finished mulling the ambassadorship to Vietnam. She’s decided to turn it down so I guess she’ll be running the department of Veteran Affairs after all.

I’m afraid Al and Jesse are out too. I think their new jobs are going to involve wearing white pants with a red coat while standing at the end of the Clinton’s driveway.

Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 7:23pm.

Now are you silly enough to think that Jeff would call that church and say, I'm a former President's son and you better tell me what I want to know?

His creditability would get destroyed about the second time he did such a thing. It isn't done in that way. Connections are used if one like Jeff is really interested!

And I doubt that he is because he is supporting Obama.

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 6:33pm.

I decided I'd spend my time better if I just walked outside and pissed into the wind.

Who is the biggest fool? Those that really believe this kind of stuff, or idiots, like myself, who argue with you about it?

I'd say I'd win as the biggest idiot. So, I'll just go back out into the wind, and let nature take it course.

Time will tell, time will tell. I just can't wait till Barack removes the SS tax cap and I have to pay out an extra 25k per year. That will make me happy to be paying my fair share. Yep, I'll enjoy the benefits of getting back about 2% of what I put into the system so that the Barack voters can enjoy the other 98%.

I'll just sit and wait for the first real foreign crisis to happen while President Obama shakes in the oval office. He's scared because his veiled threats of the use of force is ignored. No one believes he will use force, because Moveon.org hasn't given him permission to do so.

I'll just wait until he actually bombs a foreign country who is our ally, like Pakistan.

I'll just wait to see if he will keep his promise, since he is our true Messaih, and only use public funds for the general election.

I'll just wait and hope that when he makes his appointments for his cabinet positions, that he doesn't use Affirmative Action methods to pick the ambassador to China, to Iran, or to North Korea.

I'll just wait until my taxes increase to twice their limits now, so that I can pay the descendants of slavery for the years their descendants suffered over 140 years ago.

I'll just wait till the true Messiah makes the world a better place for us all.

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Submitted by highflyer2 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 4:49pm.

But when MY president takes the oath of the United States with his hand on the Koran and not the bible.......I'm out of here! Would someone please turn off the lights.

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Submitted by NUK_1 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 6:55pm.

Exactly where did this idiocy exactly start? Was it talk radio or rumblings around the Klan bonfire? I mean, there is ZERO proof of anything besides Obama being the usual Christian church-going type.

There is so much to criticize Obama and the Dems for and yet all people can come up with is make-believe BS that they heard 15th-hand in some spam email hoax AND BELIEVED WITHOUT HESITATION. Good grief.

I think the hand over the heart during the national anthem is almost as bad. Take a good look at the next sporting event during the national anthem and see how many people simply stand without the hand/heart gesture. Why and when did this become some kind of an "issue."

Of all the issues, this is the best some people can come up with? No wonder there are so many independents these days.

I think I might in some weird way "respect" some people more if they just came out and said "I ain't voting for him cuz he's black" than "he's a Muslim" or "he didn't put his over over his heart at a BBQ so he's unpatriotic."


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Submitted by muddle on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 6:11pm.

Wait. Aren't we confusing Obama with Keith Ellison?

Actually, I was curious a couple of days ago about Obama's view of Israel and whether it has a right to exist. I was pleasantly surprised to discover that he had gone well beyond political rhetoric in defending Israel. Indeed, his comments might even be described as "over the top" as he used the same occasion to criticize Israel's enemies--particularly the strange little Holocaust denier and President of Iran.

This in itself flies in the face of lingering worries that he is actually a Muslim under that suit.

Submitted by kreedham on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 7:17pm.

Yes Keith Ellison is a Muslim but he didn't take his oath with his hand on the Koran. Why? Because Congressmen and Senators take an oath with their right hand raised. The other hand is not placed on anything but may hold a bible, Koran, an encyclopedia or anything the representative choses to hold or nothing. I guess if they wish to place it on a bible they could but the only requirement is to hold the right hand up.

Now I believe the President has the same option. I hate to disappoint many of you but if Obama is elected he won't be holding the Koran or swearing on it.

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 4:54pm.

You have concerns about our up coming President also?

"Hope Changes Everything"

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