Protester calls gangs ‘youth organizations,’ criticizes DA

Tue, 02/26/2008 - 4:54pm
By: Ben Nelms

Their numbers were small, but organizers of the “Free the Fayette Two” protest said their message was not. The protest rally held outside Fayette County Justice Center Feb. 22 targeted the recent incarceration of two Fayette County High School students, convicted recently in juvenile court for their role in a gang-related “beat-in” fight in a school restroom in December.

One of the juveniles received two years in jail while the other received four years. The protest also targeted District Attorney Scott Ballard, whose office prosecuted the case.

Thirteen people participated in the protest, led by Universal Negro Improvement Association representative Chief Sundiata Kamara.

Their words were directed primarily at Ballard and could easily be heard through the megaphone into the foyer area of the courthouse. Ballard was routinely referenced as a “devil,” followed on a few occasions by the label “bastard.”

“Free the Fayette Two,” the marchers chanted in unison on the steps of the justice center, in response to Kamara’s lead. “You’re no good, Scott Ballard. Free our youth. Let them go. Unfair. Unjust. Racist. DA stands for devil and your ‘ace’ is in trouble, devil.”

Taking a brief timeout during the rally, Kamara said his group believed in reparations, repatriations and freedom for their people.

“We’re here to protest Scott Ballard, who is wicked, who defends child molesters instead of children. We’ve got two children incarcerated unjustly for a minor fight and he lets white children go,” Kamara said.

Responding to the proceedings in court that the fight was gang-related activity and that the two convicted were affiliated with the Crips and Bloods, Kamara said there is nothing wrong with youth organizations, nothing wrong with the Crips or the Bloods.

“There is something wrong with America that produces something like that,” he said. “You don’t blame the victim for being sick, you blame the person who made them sick, and that’s the whole system.”

Kamara said the federal government did a lot to bring drugs into communities, not the Crips and Bloods. You can’t condemn the youth organizations, you have to blame the individual, he said. You can’t judge the Crips and Bloods on a few bad apples around the country, Kamara added.

Ballard was at the justice center Friday but was unavailable when Kamara and three others attempted to see him. Turned away by deputies, they said they would make an appointment and return later.

Contacted later, Ballard held to the position that the prosecution of the two was justified.

“I don’t understand why people believe the prosecution of gangs is a racist issue,” Ballard said Monday. “Those prosecutions benefit everyone and we will continue to prosecute them.”

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Submitted by xb2000 on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 7:55pm.

when this is the crap we have to look forward to
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Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 03/01/2008 - 8:20pm.

Dude, if we don't run (we meaning people who obey the law) more of them (people who break the law) can't move in...they will have to stay in clayton.

Submitted by PTC Avenger on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 5:48pm.

This whole page is a joke. How typical of 21st century America. Blacks coming on here using words like slavery, KKK, white oppression, guilt, hate, racist, and so on. News flash, it's getting old. According to them Jim Crow is hiding behind every bush and fire hydrant in Fayette county just waiting to jump out and discriminate. One poster blamed white people for everything from gang activity to blacks frequently being denied credit requests. How droll. (Ironically, if blacks were denied more loan requests we would not be in this housing turmoil we're currently in. Hello Clayton county, number one county in the state for home foreclosures. And don't even get me started on the Clayton co. school system.) Another poster mentioned slavery, which is strange to me, being that that person has never been a slave, has never met a slave, and has no idea what slavery was like. You constantly invoke the memory of your ancestors to excuse your own shortcomings. You would ashame your ancestors if they were alive today. As a race you've come so far since the days of plantations and cotton fields, yet you feel obligated to bring it up anytime something doesn't go your way, anytime you perceive a white injustice. You claim white people are so racist and discriminatory, then explain to me why white people are going out in droves to vote for Barack Obama? Really, please explain it. If white people are so racist, why are so many supporting a black candidate? If there's one thing the Obama campaign painfully illustrates it's how unwilling blacks are to accept responsibility for themselves. The notion of black people not being able to get ahead or being held back by "the man" is dispelled by vast white support for Obama. By the way, blacks are not the only race to be enslaved. Unfortunately in today's political and racial climate black slavery is the only form that gets any attention. Another post said that white people should be thankful that blacks are not as vengeful as they should be. That sounds dangerously like a threat. That's all I'll say about that. I just cannot believe what I read here. You accuse us of "playing the race card," but everyone knows that's what your ace up your sleeve is. No one is forcing you to live here, if you don't like the way things are run or the way punishments are administered then, by all means, leave.

Submitted by skyspy on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 5:59pm.

We do, all owe them something don't we? Even though my family was in Germany, and barely escaped Nazi Germany we all owe them don't we?

They threatened us with violence several times on here.

Sad about clayton county....4,000 foreclosures in the last quarter.

It is hard to succeed when you are in the middle of a huge pity party for yourself.

Submitted by justwondering on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 9:40am.

Go to http://www.iir.com/nygc/gang-legis/georgia.htm. Here you can read the GA laws, definitions of gangs, what is criminal gang activity,graffiti and more. Make sure to read the section on legislative intent.This site has the laws, definitions,etc. for gangs in every US state.

Submitted by superque on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 10:33am.

The issue here is there is no "PATTERN" of gang-related activity. Its just a typical HS fight. No priors, no tats, no tags, no profit, no jewerly, no guns and the profile is as follows: AAU basketball star, football player, honor student, middle-class parents, churchgoers, bible-study students, no cars, weekends spent with uncles and sports teams, etc. I know you guys will stick to your guns without learning to see what really happen and now I will take the advice of one of the guys on here and yes some of my white friends and stop the dialogue on here to spawn more useless conversation. Nobody really wants to know the truth because you have already convicted the kids out of fear. We all want our kids to be safe. Even at my daughter's private school its not 100% safe. But, this little blog experience did wake me up, you see sometimes our sucess and material possessions in this white world makes us forget sometimes that we have a long way to go. If these kids were really gang members, I would be the first to lock them under the prision. This is not the case. So, for those of you that are not just on here to be PC racist, then go to work and smile at other races with a smirk....Pray for the truth. It was nice chatting with you all. I won't be back for a long time as we have an Appeals case to work on. We have secured the TOP attorney in the state for these type of situations. Though I honestly am NOT a Al Sharpton fan, he is engaged nowas well, (I didn't ask for his help). Peace Fayette County.

PS: Channel 2 screwed up the story last night, but apologized and corrected it this morning. Its dangerous to state "Bloods" and "Crips" on TV and show pictures of kids who are not members. They just placed the kids lives in real danger now. X doesn't even know what a Blood or Crip is besides what he's heard on some rap CDs. I will still see if its okay to post the Vid once I get it tomorrow.

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Submitted by MainframeComputerGuy on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 10:23pm.

I heard that today the cops did a huge sweep and arrested a lot more people, anyone they even think is associated with a gang. Oh yeah, and apparently the skating rink in Riverdale has been shut down because there was always too much trouble, so now the fine, upstanding "Boys Club" members are migrating south to Dazzles. Latest move was for the police to make a sweep with drug dogs, just in case the new arrivals aren't really looking for the local Y. I think we should follow Bubba Clintoon's advice and set up midnight basketball leagues, that'll solve these problems.


Submitted by Spyglass on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 10:44pm.

Not surprising at all. Riverdale is in ruins. And now they are protesting here because we want Law & Order. Oh the humanity.

Submitted by tikigod on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 1:52am.

naw man, law and order is racist. we can't have whitey telling us what to do.

When are the real black folks gonna rise up and obliterate these clowns?

Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 03/02/2008 - 9:38am.

How did the 'real' white folks in Fayette County obliterate the KKK before the Civil Rights movement? Inquiring minds want to know. Write a book - it will be a best seller. The 'clowns' made the news. No one reported about the 'real' folks, black and white, who are looking for the facts about this situation. Equal justice - not special treatment is what is wanted. Law and order, applied equally is all that is being asked by 'real' citizens.

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Submitted by Badger on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 9:09am.

The Universal Gangsta Improvement Association better have written their posters in washable marker, because from what I hear Scott Ballard isn't done yet. Personally, I say let 'em out! Free the Fayette Two, don't even give them probation because they are just going to violate it and we'll be back in the same boat tomorrow. Let them out, put them back in school, and let them beat each other to a pulp or worse. My kids have enough sense to stay away from that mess, as do most of the kids in this county. So let the "Youth Organizations" weed themselves out. And by the way Chief Sundial, you are correct. There is nothing wrong with youth organizations, it's the breaking the law part that got them in trouble.


Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 6:41pm.

"My kids have enough sense to stay away from that mess, as do most of the kids in this county".....HA, HA, that's what you think? I guess you're kids are doing a great job, they even got you fooled. Its because of people like you who condemn the kids before they are even given a fair chance. The KKK and white supremacist groups are gangs/cults. But you see they are immune from prosecution....uumm I guess its because their fathers and grandfathers are the grand dragons....never know....you may see your precious President take off his hood one day in January 2009. Don't look now, your daughter is on "girls gone wild" and your son is in the backyard building pipe bombs. I guess your kids are just being kids, and ours are gangsters "weeding themselves out"?

Submitted by tikigod on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 1:55am.

that you probably think you are clever.

the last time i heard about the KKK was a march in wedowee, al. I think there were about 15 people marching. Give it a rest.

Submitted by thebeaver on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 9:59am.

"The KKK and white supremacist groups are gangs/cults. But you see they are immune from prosecution....uumm I guess its because their fathers and grandfathers are the grand dragons....."

Like Robert "KKK" Byrd, who is a Senator in the Democrat party?

"Don't look now, your daughter is on "girls gone wild" and your son is in the backyard building pipe bombs." - You WISH, ladyracebaiter.
Then you would have an excuse for your kid's criminal behavior.

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Submitted by Badger on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 9:23am.

Oh yeah, my bad, I forgot that the "real truth" and the "real facts" of the case are only the parts that you believe to be true. I'm sure there was no investigation, no interviews, no evidence presented at trial. It was just a routine fight at a school that the powers that be decided to slap a little gang flare on to boost their ratings. Any evidence that was presented to tie these honor students to a gang was probably planted. And my kids do know enough to stay away from your "honor students". Why? Because I don't stop parenting when they get old enough to dress themselves. I know where they are, what they are doing, and who they are doing it with and don't let them look or act like a clan member any more than I let them look like a gang member. And I don't hesitate to invade my child's privacy to satisfy my every suspicion. And yes, most of the parents in this county are like me or the courts would be overrun with "honor students".


Submitted by superque on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 10:48am.

Your child will fool you. I bet they worship black athletes, rappers, etc. unless they are living under a rock. You make no sense...So proud of your parenting skills?? What makes you think these kids parents are poor parents because their kids did something immature??? You elitist white "Badger" LOL ....They investigated the case by asking ONE kid what happend in return they let him go. They found a compsition book with some so-called gang symbols on it in a locker. That is the extent of the investigation. Hit me back after the Appeal home-slice because when you are wrong, I want to see what you write then... and when your perfect kid makes a mistake, brag on your parenting skills and blame them for being influenced by their environment.

Submitted by superque on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 3:44pm.

Yet another person that doesn't know the case details, but just responds blindly. Is watching a fight in a bathroom breaking the law just because Mr. Ballard says its gang-related? The Internet is a wonderful tool, read up on what real gangs are and pray they don't really descend upon you and Fayette County. Blindly calling people criminals, etc. These kids had no priors and one was an honor student. It's so lazy just to assume they are guilty and gang members. Get your butt up and do some research. The rush to judgement is where you all played the race card NOT the black folks that are upset about this.....Keep the venom coming. I love it.

Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 6:55pm.

Well said Superque. He thinks just like Scott Ballard and Judge Taery Schell think. They don't understand them, so their ignorant, scared, stereotypical, politically motivated, layered with good ole boy prejudices, cause them to look at these kids and judge a first offense worst than a murder, DUI, robbery or child molestation charge. Ballard saw this as an opportunity to "score points" with his "white fellow county" members and to support his fellow white Sherrif friend. He weighed the consequence of doing this, and those boys came out at the end of his fork. Judge Taery Schell looked at those boys and said they weren't gang members, but what should he do with them. Oh, well...I guess he showed us what you should do to first time offense, honor student, non-gang members that live in Fayette County.

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Submitted by TonyF on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 8:57am.

Sometimes you just need to laugh, and keep your mouth shut. I wonder, though: who died and made him "chief"?

O wad some Power the giftie gie us,To see oursels as ithers see us!
(R. Burns)
If we could see ourselves as others see us, we would vanish on the spot.
(E. M. Cioran)


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 12:48am.

You better check on his sentencing record again. He actually has a history of letting American blacks off the hook. He actually has handed out stiffer sentences to white kids.

Check the courthouse records.

Actually the white kids here have a better case for racism. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

How did your use of cuss words further your "cause"? Should we be threatened by you?

Let the word get out, Fayette County does punish crime. This just isn't a good place to commit a crime. Good job Scott, lets get back to the time when Fayette County handed out maximum sentences everytime.

Thank you for your interest in Fayette County. If you can obey the law we welcome you here.

Signed the: Fayette County Preserve our Crime Free Lifestyle Association.

Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 9:03pm.

I stand corrected. Scott Ballard is not a bastard. He's a Lying Bastard. Telling his church members and teachers that the boys had prior records, to justify the injustice that was served.

"Good job Scott, lets get back to the time when Fayette County handed out maximum sentences everytime". I hope you remember this statement the next time your son or nephew decide to bash mailboxes or bring guns to school.....oh, I'm sorry I forgot. You'll just slip officials like Scott Ballard an envelop and the charges will be a dropped.

Those boys had no chance in that court room. Ballard and Judge Schell were smiling at each other. Judge Schell was cutting off the attorneys from making their points. Oh, and not to mention their Civil Rights were violated in every day.

If you want to applaud people like Scott Ballard, make sure you know how "equally" they are not treating everyone. They continue to puppeteer the constinuents and govern what they hear. Do your research before you applaud him!!

Submitted by justcurious on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:29am.

I know what you're talking about when you say the D.A. and judge were smiling at each other. I've sat in on trials, but I've watched Sellers mostly.

I'm all for justice and I think if I were a D.A. or judge and I had a slam dunk case, I would definitely be pleased. HOWEVER, I find it unprofessional and sickening the way they make horrible comments about defendants in open court - before they've even been found guilty. Once court is adjourned, go out and high-5 each other, but have some respect for the families who have been put through hell.

Again, people make mistakes and I'm not talking about the ones who are in and out of jail all of their lives. I'm talking about those "first offenders" who have messed up - they know it, their family knows it. I find it appalling that grown, well-educated men of their positions can be so heartless to mothers who's sons are on trial and cases like that. I mean, it wasn't that long ago that Scotty was at the other table defending a child molester and Lord knows what other clients. Now, he's acting all cocky, like the people on trial are the scum of the earth? Give me a break!

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 10:23am.

You seem to spend a lot of time in court. It is very expensive there for everyone. (That would include the tax payer.) I'm sorry you dislike the judicial system and those who work in it so much. Perhaps you can teach your children not to fight, to obey all laws (including tinted window and noise ordinance laws ... hint hint) and to stay away from gangs, drugs, and what the good king defines as 'youth organizations'. If not, your stay here will be ... well.... awful.

Again, welcome to Fayetteville. You are now seeing the reason why we have been such a good place to live for so long. Feel free to join us....if you can follow the rule of law. Otherwise, Clayton County has some great deals on houses and hundreds of openings in the schools.

I think you should gravitate toward sniffles5/mainstream/basmati/jeffc he/she/they will comfort you for your obvious racist mistreatment by the 'moronic dregs' that work to keep our county quite, safe, and free from criminals.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
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Submitted by Shadow08A on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 9:45pm.

This is amazing, I get banned about a comment concerned the piercing of the female sex organ, and she can call the District Attorney a “Lying Bastard” and accuse him of “Taking envelops and the charges are dropped”.

I say dear blogger, if you have proof of your allegations, then do share, please day, date, and time! Specific Case? Ok name of a defendant that got charges dropped for cash? If you have this information I urge you to make a complaint with the State Bar! Until that happens, please shut your pie hole! If you have verifiable information that supports your claim, then I apologize!

I’m not a Scott Ballard fan, he has been elected to the highest level of his incompetence, based on that of a trial lawyer. He got the job based on name recognition. He was an ok defense attorney, but looked for bigger and better then “My Client Pleads Guilty to the DUI and Failure to Maintain Lane Your Honor”. He’s a personable guy, but dishonest, and a lier, he is not! Ok Put Up or Shut Up! Oh yeah, I have met his parents, nice folks!

Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 3:52pm.

Then I guess his nice folk parents, raise a very good lying snake!!! Telling people the kids have priors to justify the ridiculous sentences. If thats not a characteristic of a lying bastard, oh well. And besides, Ballard rhymes with Bastard and he's a liar Smiling. It just flowed!!!!

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 9:57pm.

Earlier basmati/sniffles used blatant racial slurs.

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 7:10pm.

Universal Negro Improvement Association representative Chief Sundiata Kamara. (Aka: basmati, sniffy, main stream - waddup 'Chief', You can't make this stuff up. I wonder, what is a 'Universal Negro'?)

Ballard was routinely referenced as a “devil,” followed on a few occasions by the label “bastard.” (Legally Defined Fighting words - look it up.)

Taking a brief timeout during the rally, Kamara said his group believed in reparations, repatriations and freedom for their people. (Can we take up a collection for deportation/repatriation)

Kamara said the federal government did a lot to bring drugs into communities, not the Crips and Bloods. You can’t condemn the youth organizations, you have to blame the individual, he said. You can’t judge the Crips and Bloods on a few bad apples around the country, Kamara added. (Bush did it.)

Who do you think these 13 are voting for?

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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 7:56pm.

Welcome back at it! It's best to quit quitting and that way you don't have to deal with the guilt of returning.

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 8:30pm.

You and I are living proof that intelligent people can disagree politically and still have a lot in common.

I do not doubt for a moment that you are a very good man, could be a very good friend and that we would disagree politically until we both took a dirt nap.

God's Speed Hack

(BTW - have you seen the new AF slogans? At the Academy they have changed "Bring Me Men" to "The Warrior Ramp" and nationwide they have changed "Aim High" to "Above All"

Schweet, huh?

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 8:03pm.

Ain't that the truth. Just admit your an addict like Hack. Eye-wink No use in denying it Truth. One day you too will gain blogging self control like myself.

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Submitted by PTCMomma on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 6:33pm.

This protesters appall me. I cannot believe they think these gangsters are just being youth. They acted as part of a gang, did something bad, and deserve real jail time. Their skin color doesn't have a thing to do with it. Scott Ballard made a good call on this case. Universal Negro Improvement Association representative Chief Sundiata Kamara and his helpers would do better to help kids stay out of gangs instead of justifying those that do criminal acts.

Mom to 3 (and all of their friends, who love to hang out at my house-- LOVE THAT, almost always know where they are!!!)

Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 7:13pm.

While youre sitting home every day, hanging out at your house with your 3 spawns, your husbands are out plotting other ways of lying, cheating, stealing and stepping on hard working people to keep you proud. I know many women like you. Just repeating what your husband tell you to say. Really don't have an opinion of your own. I bet you vote Republican because you don't know any better?

Ha, Ha. Like the other reader, you are also dooped. Get up, put down your lemonade and cards and go watch your kids in the backyard. Tommy or Billy is building a time bomb or having a Pharm Party.

You are ignorant to think that those boys deserve 2 and 4 years in jail for a fight, whether gang related or not. If it was one of your Suzie home-making kids, you all won't be so appalled. Because of ignorance like you, people kike "Chief Sundiata Kamara and his helpers" need to continue the fight.

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 10:29am.

FYI: ladytruthfighter, the last two kids arrested for bomb making (planting and detonation too) in Fayette County (Peachtree City) were both black. The also injured a postal worker and are not serving jail time.

Maybe Ballard didn't know they were black?

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Submitted by MGChapman on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:29am.

ladytruthfighter99, your name says it all; you seem to be locked in a battle to the death with the truth (as well as common sense). Luckily for you, there is no law against murdering the English language; unfortunately, stupidity is not illegal so we are subjected to your disjointed, ill-conceived and often grammatically bankrupt diatribes instead of enjoying the spectacle of Chief Sunspot and his posse protesting your incarceration.
For the record, my opinion of attorneys in general is probably lower than your I.Q., however Judge Tarey Schell is an honorable man, and impugning his character doesn't help your argument.
Now go find a dictionary and prepare to be offended...


Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Fri, 02/29/2008 - 3:41pm.

Whatever!!! Like you and your educated lying friends, you can keep this Racist County. That's what wrong with people like you. Always measuring someone by their I.Q and standards of the dictionary. The dictionary was created by an ignorant man as yourself. You're so arrogant that you think you can degrade anyone with your vocabulary. With my uneducated, low IQ self, I'm smart to know when to spot a lying crooked judge and DA when I see one. Honorable man....what a joke??? By who's standard? Your Harvard, backwoods self? Ooops I stand correct Mr. Chapman, Masta Suh!!! Yu peeple of Fayetteville So Gud to us, we prowd to lurn ur english langwish, Suh!!!

Submitted by superque on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:54am.

You people killz me lookin' foe grammatical errors in these blogs massir, but she got her point across because you responded. Yes, I purposely misspelled some words foe ya. The issue is not the English language is it? Would an intelligent man be concerned about the point or the paper? You wanna go home or you wanna go ta jail?.......It's training day sir....

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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 1:30am.

Don't grovel in the mud with some of these folks, it's what they want. Your argument will be stronger, and respected more, if you take the high road. But it can be difficult at times - I know from experience.

There are some on this blog that want to hear the story of what REALLY transpired at FCHS and in the courtroom (i.e. evidence on the kids). Some of us have not made up our minds yet (I'm one) and want to know more. I saw the story tonight on Channel 2 and it didn't really offer much detail and still left many questions unanswered, so seeing the video will help, plus the 'gang material' the DA keeps talking about. Put it in the "Court of Public Opinion" and lets keep the dialogue flowing.

Have a good night.

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 10:38am.

"Your argument will be stronger, and respected more, if you take the high road. But it can be difficult at times - I know from experience."

I think basmati/mainextreme/sniffly and the Chief are on the same road ... but it's about as high as whale dung.

Thanks for the chuckles Ms. Sniffy. Denise will be happy to know your sense of humor remains in tact despite you having been mentally disemboweled by Denise.

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
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Submitted by Main Stream on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 11:00am.

You just proved my point.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 6:03am.

I agree.
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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 7:17pm.

Why do you hate white people and people from Fayette County in general?

Why do you think they should not be punished?

Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 9:16pm.

If you're going to punish one, you should punish all. Those boys do deserve to get punished, but to the extent that they were punished? Come on. That's excessive. And you know that? The sad thing is many people like you know the punishment doesn't fit the crime, but turn the other cheek because you don't want to talk bad about one of your own. That's what disgusting!!!

I don't hate white people. I hate injustice and unfair treatment of everyone. I rallied against Vick for doing what he did to those dogs, and 60% of my friends are white. Actually, it was my white friends thats supporting me to speak out more about injustice. That unhidden spoken rule about not talking out against other white people against ill treatment of blacks, is played out.

This is a type of crime that started to be handled by the Assistant DA that wanted to give the boys 30-60 days. But Ballard saw this an an opportunity to score brownie points with people like you and get re-elected. He was going after 5 years for these boys. That's a monster with a hidden motive!! Well, I hope you're proud!!!

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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 10:55am.

It was the gang charges that got your son hammered. By the way, Ballard didn't make the arrest or discover the evidence - that was the Fayetteville Police.

Ballard charged your "poor unfortunate youth organization member" with his affiliation, participation, and RECRUITMENT of gang and gang affiliated members and the subsequent state law violations.

They were also charged with disruption of a public school ... and their behavior led to the closing of bathrooms at Fayette County High School during class time.

I realize that you want to paint this as just a little scuffle among on the playground .... but you and twelve others seem to be the only ones that don't get it.

So, tell us what you think about Jury Trials?

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Jeffc calls for your explanation and apology.


Submitted by PTC Avenger on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 6:27pm.

"The Fayette Two?" You've got to be kidding me. "Youth organizations?" A true euphemism if I've ever seen one. I suggest Chief Sundiata Kamara leave this county, and be sure to take your poisonous, anti-white rhetoric with you. What exactly is the Universal Negro Improvement Association? Their website (www.unia-acl.org) lists their aim as follows: "To establish a united Brotherhood among the race; to promote race pride and love; to assist the needy; to aid in the abolishment of alien control in the whole of Africa; to establish diplomatic agencies in the principle countries and cities of the world for the representation and protection of all members of the race; to build educational institutions in Africa to conduct worldwide commercial and industrial intercourse for the good of the race; to improve conditions in all African communities." Who runs this organization? Apparently black people with the following titles do: President-General, a Secretary General, 2 Assistant Secretary-Generals, a High Chancellor, a Chaplain General, a Counselor General, an International Organizer, an Auditor General, a Minister of Education, a Chief of Protocol, a Director of Public Relations, and a Minister of Labor and Industry. Sounds more like a cult than a legitimate organization to me. Finally, how does one become a member of this organization? Well, for starters, you have to be black. White people need not apply. Here, see for yourself: What are the qualifications for office in the U.N.I.A. and A.C.L? Candidates must be registered active members with all dues paid up; SHALL BE MEMBERS OF THE RACE; shall be conscientious in the course of race uplift; and shall be of reputable moral standing and good education. What absurd hypocrisy. This is a sham and these people make me sick. Let us hope this doesn't turn into a giant fiasco like the now infamous "Jena 6" ordeal did (by the way, do some research on what transpired after the cameras left town). If these individuals really believed what they espoused, instead of trying to agitate "whitey," they'd be long gone by now. I'm sure the myriad travel websites these days have discount fares to Monrovia. It's 2008, is this what passes for the Civil Rights Movement these days?

Submitted by ladytruthfighter99 on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 9:05pm.

You got to be the husband or friends of PTCMomma. You must be proud. She's as ignorant as you are. Anyway, "This is a sham and these people make me sick. Let us hope this doesn't turn into a giant fiasco like the now infamous "Jena 6" ordeal did (by the way, do some research on what transpired after the cameras left town)." It people like you why I am raising my son to stand-up and speak-up for justice. The balance scale was never intended to be balance, and its proven fact all over this country. You don't want us to use the race card, then don't you use it!! Getting the job, higher pay, promotions, unprosecuted, credit approval and better schools and neighborhoods are all signs that the white race card is used. People like UNIA, NAACP, National Action Network, ETC rather be doing something else than chasing behind you injustice people. Most are non-profit and volunteer work.

Jena 6 was not a fiasco because it shed light on towns like Jena and Fayette County that think they can hid behind their ignorant jim crow days and think we should just accept it. We're not priviledge to be living around you and have a chance "at freedom"..... you're priviledge that we are not as radical as we should be. 400+ years of bondage, and there are some of you that want to continue the nonsense because you don't want "jimmy and suzie" to mix with the likes of us. Guess what, as each generation grows, the prejudices dwindles. Your kids and my kids are learning to accept each other differences, regardless of the crap that their grandfathers are trying to put in their heads to continue. Scott Ballard and Judge Taery Schell are products of those people, regardless of how many churches Ballard's helping to build in Haiti(it just a cover up). Its one thing when you're ignorance beseath you, but its another when you an elected or appointed public official and you reign your ignorance on people you swore to have the best interest at heart. Ignorance and Prejudice have no place on the "balance scales of the justice system.

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Submitted by moviecrazy on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 10:33pm.

"This is the most fun I've had without lubricant". Adam from Saw

I read this line and died laughing..... "400+ years of bondage". Let me ask you something ladytruthfighter99 were you ever enslaved? Did you ever work on a plantation? Did you suffer through those 400+ years? no, you did not so please do not use that as leverage in an arguement, I dont see jewish people running around saying they deserve something from the holocaust (which was much worse then slavery). And most of us tax payers in Fayette county love the ruling because its what makes us diffrent from clayton county were crimes by both races go unpunished. And I hope you can tolerate my intolerance for this garbage.


Submitted by superque on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:46am.

The Holocaust was much worst than Slavery...That's it, I am officially banning myself from this ignorance. This is becoming remedial now...The Holocaust lasted less than 10 years. They both were horrible and to even try to compare the two is ridiculous. Systematic death or race cleansing vs. death plus beast of burden for profit.......You can argue both sides, but why would one want to compare the two? Slavery built this country, thus its downplayed in current state. It would slanderous to admit that slavery was the building blocks to what we call America and parts of Western Europe...Do you know the sheer number of deaths from the Middle Passage and after the Holocaust, Jews were paid reparations and allowed to "integrate" back into society and as you can see, we ain't made it yet...We are still not welcomed....

Submitted by PTC Avenger on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 9:55pm.

You've so ungracefully managed to prove one of my points. Thank you for responding, and rest assured that I will respond to your diatribe tomorrow. Get ready, this is going to be fun.

Submitted by superque on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 3:55pm.

You actually spent time on their website, now go and research the case and the kids involved and "real" gangs. To assume these kids are gangbangers is lazy of you "whitey"...You hate these people...Stop hiding and just say...you hate black people. Keep the hatred flowing...Why would you spend so much time on their website if you hate them so? Huh?

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Submitted by 2boysRmine on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 7:28pm.

I don't think that's the issue here. It's very demeaning to "blacks" for you to represent us as a whole by making these statements. Let's not assume that all blacks are supportive of the "Fayette Two". I think what is the issue is that it seems to some people that these "blacks" come to one another's defense regardless of fault. They start accusing everyone of condemning a criminal because of the color of his skin, not because of the crime that has been committed. Let's step back and take a look at the crime. That is all that should matter. If these youths are involved in a gang, that should definitely be a factor.

We, as Fayette Countians, do not want this sort of thing going on in our county. It doesn't matter what color we are or what color the criminal or accused criminal is, we don't want it. Let's not let tolerance go to the extreme. Crime is crime. The law is the law. Everyone needs to take responsibility for what is theirs and stop blaming one another. If everyone would just step up and force others to do the same, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Do not support anyone simply based on their race. Don't support accused criminals or politicians simply because they are black or because they aren't. What happened to character and values? That is still allowed, isn't it?


Submitted by superque on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:16am.

The old black people support anything concerning other blacks...Not true. Its the old Obama theory white folks are pushing now...A lot of white folk are obviously voting for him as well. In this case, its not an emotional support, but its a straight-up cry for justice. It would be the same for ANY kid, as I have stated now for the 5th time, accused of something that doesn't merit a 2 or 4 year prison sentence. You people will not give in, even if you know something is wrong. There is a higher judgment for that, so why get all tensed up about it....just continue to fight and express your opinion.

Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 8:02pm.

It is hard to understand how a 80% favorable opinion of the Clintons has gone to a 90% favorable opinion of Obama over just a few months!

The Clintons' have done far, far more for the black race than Obama has ever even thought about. Until the last two months---that is--if you listen to verbal promises!

Submitted by Davids mom on Sun, 03/02/2008 - 9:57am.

There is very little difference between the policies of Obama and Clinton. The 'swing' to Obama is based on his ability to build a strong coalition of Americans - and remain positive in his message of Americans working together for change rather than depending on the experience of an individual. The black vote for Obama is not a vote AGAINST the Clintons - but a vote FOR OBAMA. How do you explain the 'white' vote for Obama?

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Submitted by Main Stream on Sun, 03/02/2008 - 11:50am.

"The 'swing' to Obama is based on his ability to build a strong coalition of Americans..."

Last week on the nightly news, I even saw where a Young Republican's group in Texas was campaigning heavily for Obama.

Obama has attracted voters from all political sides, races, gender, age group, class, region..... You're right, this is a strong coalition of Americans.


Submitted by PTC Avenger on Wed, 02/27/2008 - 6:11pm.

How dare you. A few points: 1) I have done my research on the case. To suppose that I haven't is an invalid assumption on your part. 2) You seem to be saying that these young men were not members of a "real" gang. Please tell me what exactly a real gang is. Seriously, please do. Do real gangs vandalize structures, walls, signs, etc. with their gang affiliations and street names, or whatever that illegible stuff is? Do real gangs rob businesses and citizens? Do real gangs have a hand, large or small, in the illicit drug trade? Do real gangs have beat down style initiations and ways for members to increase their status by doing certain things? Real gangs do all these things and more, so it would appear that Fayette county, especially the northern part, already, in fact, has real gangs. Perhaps these gangs are not as notorious as those they're attempting to emulate, but one fact remains: they are here. 3) You refer to me as "whitey." Assuming I'm white is lazy of you. 4) You assume I hate black people. This is such a baseless and frankly expected smear that I'm not going to bother dignifying it with a response. If you're suggesting my reference to Monrovia was somehow racist or indicative of a deep rooted hatred I have, you could not be further from the truth. I suggest you read up on the teachings of Garvey and then go back and browse their site. 5) "Why would you spend so much time on their website if you hate them so?" First of all, that doesn't even make sense. Secondly, I was only on their website for literally two minutes; that's all the time it took for me to find their FAQ section and gather the information.

In an earlier post you wrote, "Heck, a fight between 2 sports teams technically are gang battles and those kids should be charged with felonies as well...Oh, but that's entertainment....Let's see how proud people are to be in Fayette County when the truth comes out....It will, trust me, some of the top folks in the country have this story now. Yes white and black." Your weak rationalizing is laughable. And by the way, the reason the usual suspects (Jackson, Sharpton, the Kings, et al) haven't showed their faces here yet is because this case has no merit. But heck, it's not like that's stopped them before.

Submitted by superque on Thu, 02/28/2008 - 12:09am.

Al Sharpton is involved....It was on the news and the tension will grow and build, so you are laughable stating the case has no merit...Do real gangs do this and that...your rationale is senseless and stupid...People fight everyday, what does that have to do with gangs. You have proof of the case, you're lying. I have the facts of the case as I am involved with it....A gang is 3 or more people or formally: A group of criminals or hoodlums who band together for mutual protection and profit. This is the definition used by Mr. Ballard. I see swish cheese, where is the profit? Where is the protection? Where are the prior records of being hoodlums? In this case, blog ignorance is bliss....P101. This case has been on Al's radio show for a week now, he is engaged. The appeals process will take time, but its underway.

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