A sudden thought:
Would people opposed to District Voting be called "Frady Cats"?

(It would explain a lot!!)

I want the representative of my community to be accountable to..... my community. I will tire very quickly if my representative feels compelled to champion issues which do not reflect the views of my community or if self promotion is the intent. I want this representative to regularly meet with the community. I want my representative to acknowledge those within my community that have different views and not just dismiss them. Finally, I want my representative to be proud of his or her accomplishments.

I apologize for all the “I wants”

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I read this post two or three times, and I cannot find anything in it that I disagree with. Surely, we can sit down and reach some sort of common ground with which to go forward, rather than stand back and shout over each others' heads. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

There shouldn't be anything to disagree with as this is the common ground. This is what we should expect from our representatives.

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then how do we translate this into political action to make sure we elect those representatives who understand this? You can send this through email if you would rather, but I have no problem discussing this here. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Sorry it took so long to respond. I had to make dinner and do some laundry.

Gee I wish I had the answer on that one. To me, it is just common sense to respect the community that one represents. I don't mind discussing further on this board as I have nothing to hide.

One thing I would like to note are the Clayton concerns voiced by many are in fact real concerns. I'm not talking about the always present "they" vs. “us”. I'm referencing the real concerns that even some Clayton residents are concerned with. Heck, even “sniffles” acknowledged this indirectly with his “lesser schools” post. There needs to some real effort to ensure those in our community that all elected officials do not condone nor accept that behavior and that they are also stakeholders in this community.

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that we do not repeat the problems of Clayton County in regards to the schools. We should not look to run, but we should address the problem areas before they get out of hand. There are community awareness forums this week in the schools. We have to support the school districts efforts to tackle these problems by supporting parents.

Solution #1- provide some sort of guided/supervised program after school for students who have no parent at home when school is out. I was very fortunate, as a parent & a teacher to be on the same schedule as my children. I played "soccer mom" many an afternoon...cooked many a dinner...oversaw my share of homework...because, financially, my wife had to work outside the home. Too many of our kids come home to an empty house after school. And as my grandmother used to say "Idle hands are the devil's playground" LOL or as I liked to translate it..."Busy hands are happy hands". Let's work with that one for awhile. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

First, many thanks for your service as a teacher. I perceive it as a very rewarding experience and one that takes special individuals with a strong heart to do. I sometimes wonder how I would deal with a young student that is neglected by his or her parents and is starving for attention. I guess I couldn't make it as a teacher since I probably would spend part of my paycheck on these students in need.

As for the Clayton school issue, you are a better judge than I. Looking at the numbers for school offenses as noted in the AJC, there seems to be a big breakdown discipline. I would have to think that this extends to the home and a breakdown in that environment as well. You mentioned the sacrifices you made for your children. I've made the same ones. I know there are those in Clayton that have done the same thing. But the problem is so large there. Is it a result of a breakdown in the family unit? "Daves mom" any comments?
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When the hutchette was in the Clayton schools one of the biggest problems was the parents treated school like a babysitter and not like the learning institution it is meant to be. Busy hands are indeed happy hands.

P.S. check your PM at Fayettenet.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

I agree with you that schools have to be more than babysitting services. To do that they have to educate...to educate they have to teach things that the students don't know...therefore schools have to challenge students to expand their horizons, to go into areas where they do not necessarily feel all that comfortable. We, as parents, then have to get out of the way and let the educators educate. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

You guys can have your district voting in about 10 years after the producers have left these parts for better hunting grounds.

We'll wish you guys the best as you match Clayton County in educational excellence and their 'tough on crime' reputation which has made them one of the most sought after communities in the state of Georgia to flee from. Enjoy your future of District Voting. You guys deserve it.

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"I'm Pro Choice - On Light Bulbs

"No one is threatening anyone."

Oh, yes, they are -- with a lawsuit if things don't go their way .... "Why this hateful attack?"

I guess I'll see how the "rally," planned to take place during the Commissioners' meeting, goes.

Also, did the "Fayetteville Democratic Women organization" produce the flyers? Why didn't the sponsors put their names on the flyers?

"Tax paying, law abiding citizens, maintaining some of the most beautiful homes and prosperous businesses in PTC and Fayetteville. Many are your neighbors" who DON'T WANT DISTRICT VOTING shoved down our throats by the NAACP. Why don't they concentrate on gangs and crime and errant youth?

"Why don't they concentrate on gangs and crime and errant youth?"

Many organizations and people in our community are able to do more than one thing at a time; gang forums, district voting drives, anti-crime initiatives. I suspect, however, that many of the drunken and weed smoking PTC and Fayco youth have no idea what an NAACP is. I'd say that is a good grass roots drive for PARENTS. District voting, however, is a perfect cause for a politically minded group to take up.

Kevin "Hack" King

Why don't they concentrate on gangs and crime and errant youth?

Who is 'they'? There are organizations that are doing just that! They have members from the churches, the NAACP, the synagogues, the mosque, - all concerned citizens who want to continue the good life that we enjoy in Fayette County. What are you doing?

Mainly the NAACP and other "always complaining people."

I have to question just how successful "they" are, though.

But I do know a lot of families (the mom's married to the dad, not shacking up with someone and her kids don't even know who their dads are) who are very successful with their children and grandchildren. (I do pity and support women whose husbands divorced them or died, or husbands in that situation. I even give help to women who have children by several different dads and never married one of them. Their children have a really hard time.)

But, how is district voting helping "the children"?

By direct responsibility to the all constituents in a 'district'. What makes you an expert on the NAACP in Fayette County? Just want to know.

Ever since you identified Barack Obama as a Muslim / anti-christ who's christian church preaches a message of hate, it is incredibly hard to take you seriously. Not that you care, but my psychotherapist says it's good for me to get these thoughts out in the open.

Kevin "Hack" King

Thank you for your input. All who celebrate St. Patrick’s Day - back to Ireland!! All who celebrate Oktoberfest - back to Germany!! All who feel it's wrong to complain about lack of voting privileges; lynching; separate but 'equal' schools; unjust judicial system; racial profiling; crime - stand in line with the Republican Party, the Democrat Party, conservatives, liberals, - thinking Americans!

You don't get it do you? American blacks are the only ones who want to be consistently singled out......so they can play the race card. If no one knows that you are black it would be harder to pull the race card wouldn't it??

I don't see any other race demanding to be singled out. No Irish Americans, no Swedish Americans no Japanese Americans,.......no Israeli Americans. We just don't see that, because every other race creed and color of people are proud to be here and they want to blend in. They don't want something for nothing.

Signed: Proud to be an American! Unlike obama's wife. Don't bother to try and deny that major mistake from last Mon. either. ABC World News re-played it for all of America to see on Wed. 2-20-2008.

But, dude! I think you need a personal assistant to help fact check your posts before you hit the "post" button. Just curious, has not the conservative side of the house, even here locally (Richard Hobbs) gone out of their way to point out the color of Barack Obama and any criminal here that happens to be black? It's funny to me because Barrack is actually multiracial, but you guys cling to your boogie man like it's all you've got. Oh yeah. It iss all you've got. Oh well.

Kevin "Hack" King

I trust with your above comments, you'll be the first to hop on a boat for your Mother-land, being an "African American" and all, right?

From your examples - I am white, but don't celebrate St. Patty's Day nor Oktoberfest, although I could claim some German heritage from about 5 or 6 generations ago, but I don't. I'm an American, plain and simple, who is discriminated against because I am white. Nothing the "Complainers" complain about have my best interest in mind.

Five generations ago my ancestors were right here - designated/hyphenated as 'black' or 'negro'. My family has fought in the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, WWI, WWII, Korea, Viet Nam and my grandson is in Iraq. They fought/are fighting for your 'interests'! You're welcome!

for getting this blog off-subject.

So you want to drag your ancestors into this because they fought, or are fighting, for America. Guess what? My ancestors did go to, and some members of my current family are fighting in the, war for America, too, most likely side-by-side yours. So now what's your point?

Simply put, the NAACP doesn't take on any issues that deal with any group of people who aren't black. That leaves me out of it, although I am "white," I'm not 100%, I have other races in me, too. I totally agree with several other posters here who have been trying to point out to you the NAACP is a safety net for black people, no matter the cause, and because there will ALWAYS be a cause.

--And all this is way off the subject of district voting, so, Davids mom, please try to stay on-subject of the blogs.--

This is from the NAACP's web site:

" Since its founding in 1909, the NAACP has worked tirelessly to end racial discrimination while also ensuring the political, social, and economic equality of all people. The Association will continue this mission through its policy initiatives and advocacy programs at the local, state, and national levels."

You will notice the "all people" part of the NAACP mission statement. The NAACP has represented women, hispanics, latinos. The NAACP has many white members. There are members from a wide variety of ethnicities.

I am not a member of the NAACP, but I can't let you try to type your conjectures into fact.

Kevin "Hack" King

this is not where this blog should have ever gone, as it is about district voting.

I posted MY opinion. But if the NAACP works for "all people," then it may want to do more publicity when they (your word here) 'represent' anyone who is not black.

I didn't realize it is your responsibility on this forum to watchdog and not "let you type your conjectures into fact." That was not what I was doing. I stated my opinion for what I have seen played out when the NAACP gets involved and brings it to light in the public eye. Maybe if I had said it was "my opinion" at the top of my post, we could have avoided this.

Peace

"Simply put, the NAACP doesn't take on any issues that deal with any group of people who aren't black."

We're still buddies, right?

Kevin "Hack" King

"All who feel it's wrong to complain about lack of voting privileges; lynching; separate but 'equal' schools; unjust judicial system; racial profiling; crime"

Aren't you about 40+ years out of step, except for the CRIME part.

"All who feel it's wrong to complain about lack of voting privileges; lynching; separate but 'equal' schools; unjust judicial system; racial profiling; crime"

If you are a democrat selected for indictment by Karl Rove and company, it is not 40 years too late to talk about an unjust judicial system. If you are one of the 200 people cleared of their convictions by DNA evidence, you most definitely don't feel it's 40 years too late to fix our judicial system. In an article in USA Today, they outline the typical DNA clearance:

"Most exonerations come from cases from the 1980s and 1990s, before DNA testing was available or widely used. DNA was first used in an American criminal court case in 1987. The Innocence Project — which now has 36 affiliates at law schools and law offices across the USA — says its records show all but two of the exonerations occurred in convictions that happened before the year 2000.

Scheck said the "typical" DNA exoneration case has not changed much over the years. It often involves a sex crime allegedly committed by a black man in which the white victim is often the only witness, he said."

Denise, take off your GOP glasses and see the world as it really is. Republicans aren't the only Christians. Liberalism is not a disease. Conservatism is not a panacea. District voting is in the spirit of the Constitution and is absolutely inevitable (even here.)
And, finally, Americans, by and large, will not fear simply because a conservative says, "BOO!"

Kevin "Hack" King

ps: If you are Michele Obama and Bill Oreilly is around, you'd best fear the lynch mob as well!

No. Go to your sources again. There are citizens in our country who are still intimidated when trying to vote; there is still racial profiling; there are still schools that cease to offer 'equal' education when the student body is predominantly minority; there are still unjust sentences based on 'race' and economic status. 1964 did not change prejudice 'overnight'. It's intelligent, but 'uninformed of the reality of life' individuals like you that make it difficult for meaningful conversation about life in America to progress. If only all could just walk in another man's shoes for one day. Walk with brown or black skin in our country; walk with inferior education - and unprepared - regardless of your color. (Got to go - church calls)

The situations that you mention do not happen very often any more, and for that I am thankful.

There is no utopia. There will always be evil in this world, but America is a wonderful country. Just ask many of the immigrants who work so hard to come here.

"Fields of Dreams"

"With hard work and unsinkable optimism, Reynaldo Robledo went from migrant worker to owner of a California winery."

More Stories of Inspiration

If these situations didn't happen 'very often' any more, we wouldn't have this discussion. I too love my country - and respect your insistence on believing that your conservative point of view is always right. To some of the others who insist that I don't know about 'hard work' and 'responsibility' - the very fact that I'm an educated women in America, retired from a 'leadership' type job and stand on the shoulders of blacks and whites who have achieved manifests that I have learned how to achieve the American way. That doesn't mean that because you and I have achieved - that we cannot assist to remove the obstacles that prevent others from achieving. If women or minorities or men or majorities don't take advantage of the opportunities - then that is their problem. My point is that the opportunities are not available to everyone - yet.

I'm in no way suggesting that you "don't know about 'hard work' and 'responsibility.'"

You seem to have made wise choices, one being to further your education, and you're to be commended for wanting to help others and for your gratitude for those people ("blacks and whites") who have sacrificed and worked hard so that their children and grandchildren could have a better life. (I'm also very grateful for them.)

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Success story of a LA single welfare mother who overcame her life of drugs, abortions, and welfare abuse:

"A Star Is Reborn"

"I bought into the lie that there was nothing in America for me except institutional racism and glass ceilings that would keep me from getting promoted."

Faith and Free Market Principles: Key to Curing Poverty

"Pulling Black America Out of Oblivion"

"There is only one hope for pulling black America out of oblivion: Re-instilling a sense of absolutes, of right and wrong, and doing this from the grass roots up, one person at a time. Anyone who thinks there is an alternative is kidding himself.

"Blacks can continue to listen to the Sharptons, Obamas and the black intellectuals who have a thousand different ways to say 'it's not my fault.' The price will be a black community lost forever."

"Left’s Old Ideas in a New Label"

Need for "personal responsibility and traditional personal standards of behavior": "The quality of our lives directly reflects how we choose to live our lives."

"Literally trillions of dollars have been spent since the 1960s to address poverty, both in the United States and in developing countries, in exactly the manner that Revs. Wallis, Sharpton, and Jackson [and Sen. Clinton & Obama] suggest we should continue doing today. That is, to cast poverty not as something that individuals rise above and out of, but as something that bureaucrats spend other people's money on to eliminate.

"The result, after trillions spent, has been negligible results and massive social costs. The so-called 'progressives' are really regressives.'"

"The black left has dominated black life and thinking for the last 50 years. Black family life is, on average, in much worse shape today than 50 years ago and black poverty persists."

You will never convice Dave's Mom and her ilk that personal responsiblity, hard work, and morals are the keys to getting ahead.
The only thing that her and the NAACP know is that they were discriminated against in the past. "They" don't want to move past it, because "they" want to use it as a crutch and throw it up in "our" faces every time that "they" want to use it as an excuse for the 70% out of wedlock births in the black community, the high number of black males in prison, low test scores, poverty, etc., etc. etc.

"They" don't want to move past the stain of racism and low expectations, because it would mean that "they" are going to have to be held accountable for "their" success or failure, just like the rest of "us".

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Barack Obama is a human featherball -- a slick, smiling, substance-free empty suit who excites gullible dimwits by repeating the words “change,” “unity,” and “hope” over and over --

Shocking departure form previous posts!

Kevin "Hack" King

Why don't you continue the dialog with "sage$" about the merging of pilot contracts.
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and even I don't understand the contract. I guess that's why I sleep in hotel beds more than my own. I could have sworn I got sick leave and vacation at this job!!

Kevin "Hack" King

I recently heard Mr. Cain (who's a "black" conservative, for those who don't know) talking about his dad (who was married to his mother) and his work ethic. His dad died at the age of 56 (?) but had worked hard, saving as much as he could for the future and spending as little as possible. The money that he left behind (close to $1 million) provided for his wife and her care during her debilitating illness for the next 30 years. The death tax owed at her death was more than $1 million.

“Despite his successes, Cain does not forget his humble beginnings.

His parents, Luther Cain, Jr. and Lenora Davis Cain provided examples of hard work that he would remember the rest of his life. His father at one time worked three jobs: cutting hair in his off hours, working part-time at Coca-Cola as a chauffeur, and working an evening shift as a janitor in a bakery. His mother worked as a domestic. This work ethic would inspire Cain, not only to work hard, but to 'rise up singing,' as DuBose Hayward's lyrics stated in "Summertime" from Porgy and Bess. Singing would come later in his life.

"Cain told Wallace Terry in Parade Magazine, ‘My father never looked for a government program, a government handout. I never heard my father complain about somebody owing him anything. All I ever saw was how hard my father worked to get what he wanted out of life. My mother was my spiritual light -- Mom talked to me about God. She taught me that success is not a function of what you start with materially but what you start with spiritually. Those were my beginnings. They have been with me ever since.’”

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I'm glad that Herman (recognized by the Horatio Alger Society, "an organization in Pennsylvania that honors those who rise from rags to riches by hard work, honesty, and religious principles") and his dad, and so many others, never believed that they were victims needing to rely on the government and that this country doesn't provide OPPORTUNITY for those willing to work for it.

Mr. Cain's Accomplishments HERE and HERE

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“Success is not the key to happiness. Happiness is the key to success. If you love what you are doing, you will be successful.” ~ Herman Cain

Herman Cain, hmmm, where have I heard that name before?

Ah yes, he's that bitter Ann Coulter-wannabee columnist that had his column dropped by scores of newspapers after he likened Democrats to Hezbollah. LINK

Real classy guy. Not.

The Citizen still runs his blather from time to time, sadly.

“Entitlement is a Disease,” much like cancer. I fought and won my personal war against cancer, but have thankfully never suffered from entitlement. ~ Herman Cain

Herman Cain signed a syndication deal with North Star Writers Group, which syndicated Mr. Cain's weekly column beginning February 15, 2006.

In April 2006, Herman Cain [60 - born 1945] was diagnosed with colon cancer and then underwent nearly a year of chemotherapy, as well as surgery to his liver and colon. I wonder if that had anything to do with fewer columns than usual.

Where's your proof to back up your statement that "his column [was] dropped by scores of newspapers"?

“STATEMENT BY NORTH STAR WRITERS GROUP IN SUPPORT OF COLUMNIST HERMAN CAIN”

North Star Writers Group is pleased and proud to offer its complete support to our outstanding columnist Herman Cain, in light of ridiculous criticism leveled at him today by the organization calling itself WakeUpWalMart.com.

Mr. Cain's August 23rd column - defending Wal-Mart against its critics and labeling many such critics "Hezbocrats" - was well-written and entirely within the bounds of fair commentary and debate.

Mr. Cain's membership on the steering committee of the organization Working Families for Wal-Mart is a non-issue from our perspective for an opinion columnist and has never been any secret. Furthermore, WakeUpWalMart.com's demand that this group be disbanded reflects its own intolerance of anyone offering a point of view other than its own. If advocacy groups like this want to win in the arena of ideas, they should try making better arguments instead of decrying the very existence of organizations with another point of view.

North Star Writers Group syndicates columnists from both sides of the political spectrum, and we support the right of all our columnists to express their points of view in pointed and thoughtful ways as Mr. Cain has done in this week's column.

“New word of the day: Hezbocrats”

Herman’s 2006, 2007, & 2008 columns

Enjoy!

Whenever someone takes issue with the blather of Herman Cain, he or one of his surrogates inevitably plays the "cancer card".

"How can you criticize dear Herman, the man has CANCER!"

as if having cancer exempts you from criticism.

Shifty, you didn't answer my question, "WHERE'S YOUR PROOF to back up your statement that 'his column [was] dropped by scores of newspapers'"?

I never said that you couldn't "criticize dear Herman." LEARN TO READ.

Won't answer my question, Just who is “Sniffles”?

How is the cancer card any different, more annoying, or more pathetic than the race card?

You sir are a CANCERIST.

Proud to be an American.

"CANCERIST"

Cancer is classed as a "negative" or feminine, introverted zodiac sign [Ms Extreme ] and is ruled by the moon (hiding in the shadows, a creature of the darkness, quite similar to GOLLUM). The astrological symbol for Cancer represents the claws of the crab, or breasts, symbolizing motherhood [AGHHH! poor kids] and the link with the moon.

Cancer is associated with MEDUSA, whose hair was transformed to serpents and her face so horrible to behold that the mere sight of it would turn a man to stone.

"The Cancerian has many potential faults. They can be untidy, sulky, devious, moody [crabby], inclined to self-pity because of an inferiority complex, brood on insults (very often imagined), yet are easily flattered. They can be tactless and difficult yet, because they are normally ambitious, they will curry favor by floating with majority opinions, outlooks and fashions of the day. As a result they often change their opinions and loyalties and, indeed, their occupations, and lack stability. They are easily corrupted and, because they are convincing romanticizers, can make successful confidence tricksters. Their romanticism in another sense make them ardent supporters of causes [Obama-maniac], for example a football team with whose heroes they can identify in a world of fantasy."

"Physically they are average to below average in height, with a fleshy body and short legs in comparison with the rest of them. Their hair is usually brown, their faces round, their complexions pale, their foreheads prominent, their eyes small and blue or gray in color, their noses short, perhaps upturned, and their mouths full. They sometimes walk clumsily."

"People with Cancer active in their charts are subject to coughs, indigestion, gas, gallstones, general problems with stomach, liver and intestines, plus emotional disorders such as depression, hypochondria ["fainting" at Obama rallies] and hysteria [Obama-mania]."

"Cancer is classed as a "negative" or feminine, introverted zodiac sign [Ms Extreme]"

Please keep your sophomoric mud-slinging inside your fighting-ring , denise. Why would you even put forth the energy to type this into your post?

And do you really believe that people actually read all of your cut and paste jobs or go to the numerous links you spend hours researching and downloading? Like most on here, I scan what you post and look for slivers of original thought, like this juvenile sentence referring to Ms Extreme. And I still don't understand why you would even refer to me in your inane argument.

Isn't there a zygote somewhere that you can go save, instead of spending time posting so insanely?

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" Like most on here, I scan what you post and look for slivers of original thought, like this juvenile sentence referring to Ms Extreme."

It's like you were over my shoulder watching me read through the blogs! Wooooaa dude! Radical. She sees me skimming the multi-colored and highlighted waters for a hint of substance. I find it saves hours of on-line time that way

Kevin "Hack" King

Like "laugh[ing] as you twitch and writhe like a vampire in the sunlight."

Looking "for a hint of substance"? Won't find it in Obama's speeches. But keep looking. Just don't get dizzy!

MS looking over your shoulder?

Now that is creepy!

You surely like to tell others what to do. Don't your children need you?

"Sniffy" & you aren't happy unless you're complaining about my posts, especially C&P. Maybe like with percentages, you're just slow. (If you're nicer, I could tell you some posting tips, or just ask "Sniffy.") I have a really fast computer, so it doesn't take me hours "researching and downloading." See how fast I found the facts to refute "Sniffy" about the SBC. I enjoy learning. Do you? I do take time with style and grammar, though. But how I spend my time isn't really any of your business, is it?

If you can't read the posts because they're too difficult, then maybe "Sniffy" will let you borrow his reading comprehension books.

How did I insult you since you're so tolerant of all religions, including Wicca? Surely you're not offended by astrology?

To quote TruthSleuth: "I simply noted that some of the postings from both you and Ms. Main have 'technically similar' origins."

"Other similarities exist between several 'bloggers' on here as well. The 'electronic fingerprint' of more than a few of them are identical.
You are dead on an some of your speculation. At least one blogger uses (occasionally) multiple computers from the same IP address. Well done."

TruthSleuth then pointed out specific bloggers who were "posting from the same router IP," and specified modem type, router type, & ISP.

TruthSleuth: "Sniffles (aka Jeffc aka basmati aka Mainstream dba Plagerism 'R' Us.)"

It's amusing how Ms Extreme, JeffC, Sniffy Basmati, and $age a.k.a. Dollar, Bonker$, $nitpiker$, & the rest of the gang respond so quickly to my posts that are NOT addressed to that particular user.

Ms Extreme's "guttural level of hate and venom"

BTW, my "point" was just HUMOR, especially the "crabby" part . You should try it some time! The HUMOR part because you have the other part down pat. Now, why don't you go visit at Starbucks with your pals?

Whatever.

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"Whatever" wow, now that was really clever!

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Jeffc calls for your explanation and apology.

And much like Muddle's "whatever" two days back, the timing was impeccible (however you spell in peck able)

Kevin "Hack" King

I didn't expect dense-ise or truth to 'get it.'

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I know Muddle, and you're no Muddle.

Of course you didn't "expect" me to "get it" because you've judged me to be an "idiot," "ignorant," "dense." BTW, how's your 6th-grade math (percentages)coming?

But I did "get it"! You just make a poor imitation of Muddle.

Impeccable: Incapable of sin or wrongdoing; having no flaws; perfect

I'll let you get the last word in and then maybe you will go get some much needed rest from today's, self-imposed blog-rage. This has always been your debating strategy, in the end, so have at it:

"It is particularly important to get the last word where you are in some doubts as to the merits of your case. The last word will serve as a clinching argument that will make up for any deficiencies in your logic."

WIKIPEDIA ON HAVING THE LAST WORD

Nighty-night.

Now I know you're Dollar!

Well, good morning! Rise and shine. I guess I don't need as much sleep as you older "ladies." And I haven't even had a cup of coffee.

I missed your "nighty-night." Did you have any more of those terrible dreams?

Don't worry. I have impeccable logic, and I have no cause to doubt the merits of my case. What a great way to start the day.

before hitting the blogs this morning (terrible addiction - get those meds out, hon). What is it now, a record 18 hours hyperventilating on the blogs (minus your beauty(?) sleep of course).

DENISE BLOG-RAGE

Enjoy your latté.

I'm not into the latte' thang. A simple cup of Joe is fine for me.

Have you enjoyed wallpapering this blog with all of your rants today? It has been quite the display, watching you respond to week old posts with your spittle. You must have been on for 12 hours straight today - gosh. Who are you neglecting? Kids, husband, dog.... oh, right, the kitties.

btw - did you save a zygote today?

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I'm always amused when conservatives try to portray liberals as latte drinkers, perrier water consumers, or hyphenated name havers.

Christine Todd-Whitman aside, this is a funny story of timing. We had a new vendor on base providing squadron refreshments. They had bottled water for sale right next to our water fountain. We also have a tv in the snack room and it was tuned to Fox. One of my conservative buddies was saying expensive bottled water like perrier was for touchy feely liberals like me. The funny thing is Fox was running the story of VP Cheney's wish list when he goes to hotels; the temperature, thread count of sheets, all tv s tuned to Fox, and A CASE OF PERRIER! The timing was amazing, and I still laugh about it when I see my conservative bro!

Kevin "Hack" King

And I thoroughly enjoy the stereotype of the Liberal female, portrayed in truth and dense-ise's posts: Hairy-legged women who shop at Lane Bryant LOL

(actually, it sounds like the typical Fayette County, card-carrying Republican women I see ranting at the PTO meetings or riding in the scooters through the aisles at Wal-Mart).

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I'm not TruthSlueth (he's pro-abortion and a veteran and libertarian). You're slow tonight.

How did I "stereotype" you?

Are "Hairy-legged women" anything like "a bunch of hairy-backed Neanderthal's [sic]"?

"Rants" -- You do use that over and over. Try a thesaurus.

"like the typical Fayette County, card-carrying Republican women I see ranting at the PTO meetings or riding in the scooters through the aisles at Wal-Mart"

Of course you'd NEVER "stereotype," would you?

So, no Dems are disabled or shop at WalMart? "They" would never "rant," would they?

I guess it's just a younger generation thing?

But not me -- too many calories & too expensive.

You've talked about Starbucks several times, and "latté" comes to mind. One of their frappuccinos is tasty every once in a while.

And anything French -- no way! (since Chirac & Kerry )

I do eat Brie and some other French foods with a couple of Buckhead friends who moved here in the last few years from Paris. They LOVE it here and never want to live in France again -- at least, when Chirac was president. High taxes, socialism ... Yep, they experienced it first hand and came to the land of opportunity: America.

Don't you have a Lane Bryant to pilfer? I realize that a feminine woman with real opinions intimidates you hairy-legged hyphenated types but please - try commenting on her intellectually stimulating posts and save the personal attacks for ... well... me.

By the way, will you have your alter-ego/husband explain this please:

Sniffles05 The Plagiarizer in Chief
Sniffles05:Jeffc calls for your explanation and apology.

btw - It's Ann Taylor, not Lane Bryant.

And I see nothing remotely feminine about dense-ise. It surely doesn't come out in her posts. Besides, why bring gender into the mix? I hope you don't stoop to her low level of discourse, now that you're back posting again. Some of your posts were actually enlightening - in a way - so I hope you take the high road, and leave her alone in the gutter, where she loves to play.

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"And I see nothing remotely feminine about dense-ise."

I am so glad of that. Ewwww.

Like $ you have trouble spelling my name. So many similarities....

MS: "I grew up in the Bay Area during the turbulent 60's - it made me what I am today (can ya tell?)."

Wow! You're old!

Maybe you're one of those CODE PINK "ladies"?

Looked in the mirror lately?

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Christine Todd-Whitman

BIG FAT HYPHEN!

Kevin "Hack" King

Actually, there is no hyphen in her name. She retains her maiden name of Todd to make sure that everyone knows that she's the scion of “Eastern establishment Republicans” (she’s from Joi-sey but was born in New York City).

I wonder if “Christie” and Teresa Heinz Kerry, who remained a registered Republican until her second husband's presidential bid and whose legal name is still Teresa Heinz (she only tacked on "Kerry" for the campaign), are friends?

But as head of the EPA, she's a tree-hugger and “a standard bearer of her party's moderate wing,” working to help elect moderate Republicans -- translated, liberals.

In her book It's My Party, Too: Taking Back the Republican Party... And Bringing the Country Together Again, she "argues against the hijacking of her party by zealous 'social fundamentalists.'"

Does your party want her?

You're soooo predictable!

Are we in a bad mood -- crabby maybe? Didn't you sell any foreclosures today?

I should have listened to Ann Coulter's advice in How to Talk to a Liberal (If You Must)! I'll have to ask my friend for his audio copy to listen to again after dealing with the Extremely Sniffy today.

Try to be nice to you and you call me "Dense." Let me see.... Did you call me that using the name Basmati or $?

Extremely Sniffy, you surely do concern yourself with my schedule and my private life: "Were you a virgin when you got married?"

Sniffy, you haven't been asking that little 6th-grade girl (or any others) that question, have you?

Can't you multi-task? Hint: there's something on your computer called Microsoft WORD (can't remember Mac's equivalent). See if you can find it. That free advice is given just because.

Like you (GASP!), I prefer plain coffee. Just had a cup so that I can keep up with "Sniffles (aka Jeffc aka basmati aka Mainstream dba Plagerism 'R' Us)" (TruthSleuth).

Gotta answer your Other Half!

Ms Extreme's "guttural level of hate and venom"

Gosh girl, your blood pressure must be off the charts by now. Twelve hours straight on this blog, just pounding away at us liberals.

Chill out before your head explodes all over your monitor.

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Do you need a napkin?

I can FEEL your concern.

My BP is excellent, and as I told you, I'm multi-tasking. Just because I'm logged in doesn't mean that I'm at my computer. Sorry to disappoint you. You must have had a boring day, just sitting at your computer, staring at the screen, waiting to pounce on me, adding up the time that you think that I'm online. Especially the adding part, since you told me how hard math is for you.

BTW, I forgot to hit "post" last night; so, you can count this post for yesterday.

"Chill out before your head explodes all over your monitor."

I'm very calm. But I sense that you aren't. Would you like to tell me about your dreams of exploding heads and your fear of computers? Just lie back and tell me the first thing that comes into your mind. Take a deep breath. Relax.

Does your church talk about bad karma? You know at first you seemed like a good advertisement for Unity Church......

You have been on here quite a bit by the looks of it. Throwing wild swings.

At least Denise puts effort into her posts and backs up her statements with links to where she got the info.

Have a good night

Unlike michelle obama........ I'm Proud to be an American!

You might want to re-read this thread from the beginning to see who first played the cancer card.

Hint: tweren't me!

Sniffles5, My goodness....isn't there a single conservative point, issue, value that you can relate to or identify with? Just one?

Hi, ImJustSaying! That's an interesting question you pose.

In short, I cannot think of any particular tenet of conservatism that I agree with.

As a Christian, I find the basic tenets of conservatism to be incompatible with Christianity.

I recognize that some people may take issue with this, and I'm sure there are a great many people who are able to rationalize their conservative beliefs as being somehow in step with Christian values.

If they truly believe that they can be both a Christian and a conservative, more power to 'em. Who am I to judge?

this is a wonderful summation of your point of view. I applaud you. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Pro-Life - Anti Baby Murder ?

Sanctity of marriage ?

Freedom from tyranny ?

Personal Responsibility ?

Nah.... I'm sure Christ is against this short list of examples.

Conservatism is realism, about human nature and government's competence. Just because the Conservative movement has been hi-jacked and re-defined by the left in both parties does not give you the right to mis-represent what true Conservatives stand for. How typical these days.

You of all people Yardman, to agree with such a ridicuous statement as Basmati posted.

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YES! Unlicensed, illegal aliens who run traffic lights and crash into people putting our lives and limbs at risk should be off of the street and in PRISON so that they can't just sneak back into the country once they have been deported. I have become very in tuned to this problem as of late, and my guy is STILL ON THE STREET!

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shouldn't ANYBODY "who runs traffic lights and crash into people putting our lives and limbs at risk be off the streets and in PRISON"? Keep the faith

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

That is the difference. Some want law breakers deported immediately. As George Lopez said in a skit when he was being deported, "Oye! Tia! Cover my plate. I'll be right back." The guy that hit me has been cruising with expired tags almost three years. Because he has no real assets, there is no leverage to keep him from running / relocating; no credit to ruin; no house to foreclose; nada. All you can take is his freedom (legally anyway).

I take it a bit personally when a man tries to kill me with his car and leaves.

Kevin "Hack" King

I'm sure you held three jobs also to get rich!
But, after all, he was minority and that was his job to do!

You almost pulled the race card---whew!

Do you think we should continue foreign aid to Israel?