Of course you are correct in so far as you apparently know!

It can't happen until 2008, in four years. By then the current drug store will be closed. It is too small.

As to Riby Tuesday selling, I would suppose it is one of two things:
They aren't making enough money,or they have been offered enough to build two more someplace else.

As to us letting them, it is commercial to commercial zoning within guidelines.

I'm assuming you meant to say 2011? I noticed that when I looked at the article again. Still, even if the RiteAid closes...there's still a CVS just a minute down the road!

And even if they end up closing down both the RiteAid and the Ruby Tuesday since they're not making enough money...couldn't they be replaced with stores that the city actually needs? No more drug stores, tattoo parlors, or wild bird stores...what about something that actually matters?*

I just don't think there's any point in building a drugstore when there's another one just a minute away!

* (And if you're wondering...no, I can't think of any good stores. Still, money is being wasted on things that this city doesn't need.)

The Wild Bird Center and Wags to Whiskers appear to be some of the few proud successful buisnesses in PTC.

Notice all of the empty spaces by walley-trash, and the braelin k-mart center?? How about all of the empty spaces by the Red Room? We have enough empty spaces, and we don't need another nail shop.

In case you haven't noticed "chain restaurants" like Ruby-Rubbery-Food aren't very popular. They won't be missed......dare to dream, but could we get Goldfish, or Cheese Cake Factory, or Emerils, or Twist, or Lola, or a Blue Point, or Fogo De Cho, or Ruth Chris, here....or something like them.....something original?. The only good restaurant we have here is Thai Spice in the Avenue.

News flash most people moved to PTC, because it was at one time a quiet, natural community with a lot of green space. Many bird watchers and bird lovers live here. It isn't all about the golf. The Wild Bird Center is the heart and essence of PTC living. SNAP OUT OF IT!

You just named a bunch of chain restaurants. I guess you meant "smaller chains."

Pascal's isn't a chain and the food is excellent to me. As far as chains not doing well, I think Longhorn, Smokey Bones and Carrabas would disagree.

Considering how many golf courses are physically located in a city that has less than 40K residents, I'd say a LOT of people did in fact move to PTC for the golf. Three golf courses all doing well seems to suggest someone is playing golf, and I don't think they are coming from Clayton Co either.

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You mention green space, I assume you are meaning City owned green space. You seem to imply the City has less green space. Has the City gotten rid of green space in the past years? If so, I'm not aware of it. Maybe you know something I don't in this regard. Feel free to share.

I disagree about Thai Spice being the only good restaurant, although I agree, it is good. I really enjoy the Georgia Shrimp Company, Partners, Cafe Pig and the Village Seafood Market to name just a few.

Yes, the city has reduced the size of green space in several areas.

The first was the area where the lenox-stick-it-to-them crowd built Wiltshire Estates. The homes on the north end of that were built ontop of what used to be natural springs and swamp land. They also had to cut down large sections of trees from HollyGrove Rd. up to the Morallion Hills area along the cart path to tie in a sewer system for a subdivision that was an afterthought.

The line creek area is the next area where the "green space" has been reduced in size. I don't have pictures of the original area before mcBULLY started the crusade to buy our streets.....but from what I can see it appears smaller.

Whatever, I guess most people don't plan on staying here very long anyway.

you are wrong on the Line Creek area.

As far as sewer lines being run, aren't they in the green space ALL over town?

But I asked you if the CITY had actually gotten rid of green space. You pointed to a development that you don't like. I'm not sure this land was ever deeded to the City. I'm not saying it's not possible, I'm just pretty sure it never was in the City's control.

And yes, I plan on being here for quite a while.

2ndly, obviously, you only like Thai food.

that everyone who doesn't agree with you is wrong.

It must be nice to think that you are just so right about everything, and that everyone agrees with what a newcomer has to say about our city.

Cheers mcdonoughdawg

Around Christmas time, every time I logged on, someone had changed my password. Apparently it was quite rampant at the time. I had used McDonoughDawg on chat boards etc from 10 years ago, when I actually lived in McDonough. I don't miss that place one bit. Been here for 4 years and have met a lot of nice people. I will say this, unlike many others here, I only use one name at a time. Unlike some, I always try to not take it too seriously. You're always willing to give and take, and I appreciate that.

But your question about pictures wouldn't prove much. But DEEDS showing property being transferred would. It would be easy for you to check online and come up with these deeds. I'm not ever sure "pictures" were ever really used to convey ownership of property anyways.

Yes, 4 years here, and still enjoying myself. Our City's not perfect, but what is?

The city doesn't have to sell green space, it is, and can be cut down while they own it. I should say especially when the city still owns it. That is the problem. That is what I and many other people object to.

If you wanted to cut down a tree in your yard that was not dead, you would have to get a permit and explain why. They cut down many trees and damaged many others because of the way they did it.(with a bulldozer) The trees that they nicked with the bulldozer are all dead and or dying.

I still enjoy PTC also. There are problems everywhere, we still have less problems than other places. In my opinion.

Most of the people I know and talk to on the paths moved here because we still had lots of green space, and not much urban blight (ie empty stores, empty parking lots). The city owned, and still owns the property where the trees were cut and burned in a huge bonfire. Just because the city owns it, and calls it "green space" doesn't make it so if nothing is growing on it. I should mention the city did attempt to plant some cheap scrub pines,(not dogwoods, or cherry trees or magnolia trees) most of those have died as well.

Fair enough with your points about trees etc. I'm going to pay more attention in my walking/carting/driving around town.

The continued building of retail by developers is puzzling. I realize it is being built on property already zoned, etc.

As a person who has been in and around resale residential Real Estate for years, I can't understand why developers are continuing to build more and more small commercial sites when we have so many sitting vacant around the city. The building behind Mellow Mushroom is a very nice looking building, that is 95% empty, and it has been for more than a year.

I do know that there is a demand for more Hotel/Motel rooms in town, my Wife's company sometimes has trouble finding enough rooms for their clients, and the Wyndham is usually just above the per-diem that they allow. I would have thought one of the 3 Hotels approved would have been started by now.

The city has not gotten rid of green space altogether. It seems like they have just reduced the size of it.

Yes the sewer lines are all over PTC. When they added a sub-divison at the last miniute they had to cut down and burn a lot of trees. The swamp (aka: Nature Preserve, PTC euphemism for swamp) is still there, just smaller.

I like many different restaurants, they just don't happen to be in our fair city.

"Seems like it", isn't the same as they have gotten rid of space. Me thinks you are imagination is running wild...and you love to play the "negative guy" on the internet.

Oh yeah, I also like Taco Mac's wings and BEER choices.

Not dodging I said it was my opinion based on what I have seen. I admitted that I don't not have old photos of the line creek area.

You stated that you don't think it is true, but you have no pictures of the original line creek nature area either,....do you? So it is your opinion that it has not changed and we should take your opinion as a newcomer to be gospel??

Taco mini-mac's food is so, so.

There's a lot of us that love this place and will continue to live here for a long time. If you are so unhappy why don't you move away. We like it here. Stop annoying us.

What could have ever happened to sour you on Peachtree City? Did you lose and election or something?

Didn't you already move out of the colanade to Brooks??

Just calling a spade a spade my friend.

I'm not sour on PTC.

I like green space, and I hate crooked politicians it isn't that hard.

PS: last week I agreed with you twice on 2 different issues.....SCARY isn't it?!

No, I did not move to Brooks, nor have I ever lived in colanade(sic).
Yes, me and hubby have visited Rex Green in The Collonade and certainly in Brooks. I have even visited Steve Black and his charming wife in Brooks as well.

The crooked politician drum beat is really getting old, Steve. Give it up.

I wouldn't want to call a whacko developer my friend.

PS: but we did agree on 2 different issues last week.......SCARY!!!

Polite way is the best way- just I don't agree with you would have been enough.

I personally can't see how adults- can't disagree in a polite way?

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Was your purpose to anger Sky? Does it really feel good to argue all the time? I see this alot- please we are adults-

There's is a way to be respectful to one another and try not to upset someone, we don't get anywhere with that.

What point do we prove if we argue all the time- say what you need to say in a respectful way and let it go. Like I said- we all have different views on things.

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You are at it again.
Everyone is upsetting everyone, everyone is too harsh, can't we just get along (as Rodney said), you are dissing me, I don't like to argue--just tell it my way, and so on!

I think maybe some types of people don't make much progress because they don't get angry. Because they don't say the truth when it needs to be said. They excuse those who offend decency by allowing it to occur over and over and being nice to them. Kick their butt once in a while, let them stay in jail a few days. Let them know you are disappointed in them and will hound the hell out of them until they improve.
Otherwise, nothing changes with gangs and ignorance!

how her tone has changed, after the world-class smackdown she received.

gotta love it.

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smackdown? Are you saying that you do smack?

Why do you attack BPR? Never mind. If buisness was great you wouldn't need to pick on other people.

You seem to be very busy, are you really a realtor? How's buisness? Is blogging a good filler for you?

mccains poor choice of words is every bit as funny as michelle obama's last Monday.

You, sage$$,nitpickers, dollar, d.smith, and bonkers complment each other very well. Really you all should stay together.

Started off 2008 with a bang, thanks to investor's scooping up foreclosures!

Sorry you have your panties in a wad, sky. No one's attacking anyone... what are you talking about. I'm loving this new 'happy talk' emanating from our friend!

Peace (can't you just feel the love...)

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Happy Talk. That's good karma.

How are you? I am doing fine being my peaceful self- this is the way I choose and I do get alot accomplished- btw I did not say you could not say what you wanted to.

I said just do it in a civil, respectful way.

Have a good night.

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You know what is old??

The: "but we aren't crooked developers/politicians" cry,......thats old!

Attention GIT REAL: I am the real Steve Brown mudCANT just said so right chhheeeerrrr. Unhuh, thats right, stop pretending, mudCANT the official opinion of everyone in PTC says that I, skyspy am the real steve brown.....so there.

Have a nice night.

Thanks for the confession, Brown, but I was really fingering Black.
Hope you didn't confess for nothing. Rothley would be annoyed.

Ease off the spirits - almost bedtime, dude.

Do you even keep count of how many people you have accused of being the "Real Steve Brown"?.

Take your meds. and go to bed. You are nothing but a sad parody of the crooked developer/politician.

Even though michelle obama doesn't think so this is a GREAT country. We all have freedom of speech.

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I think Sky just wants to keep PTC safe and a nice place to live- everyone wants that of their town.

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I do like PTC. We all need to work together to keep PTC and all of Fayette County nice.

I'm glad you didn't leave, I hope TruthSleuth has changed his mind also.

Signed a Proud American, we still live in the BEST country in the world.

We live and learn- I know you want the best- I want the best- we all want the best.

I am like you I am proud to live in Fayette County- but like you said they are some things we will always have to work on. We can't get it done if everyone argues all the time. We are adults.

Have a good night- remember you can't keep a good person down.

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But why does she/he have to attack everything and everybody all the time? The references to developers and Bob Lenox are so tiring.

And no, "Hope Changes Everything" does not get the job done. You have to work at it - run for office, help someone run for office, volunteer, do something - don't sit on your butt and meditate - or hope.

We all have our definition of "Hope". I know "Hope Changes Everything". I never said you had to do what I do. That is what so good about living here- we don't have someone telling us you have to always do it this way- my way is the right way. I am glad to live in the land of the free- so I will continue doing things my way and you are welcomed to do them your way.

I don't just sit and do nothing. How do you know what I do? I don't think you do. Now, we disagree and that is okay.

I think we disagree because our definition of hope, it's not Obama- and we can disagree on that, if it's not Obama we can disagree on that. I am fine with it.

Maybe Sky is frustrated with how we are not spoken to in a polite way or if someone does not see it your way- some can get out of control.

All it takes is a little kindness and understanding everyone will not always agree- voice your opinion and go on. I think things would be alot better if we treat each other with respect even if we disagree.

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"Goldfish, or Cheese Cake Factory, or Emerils, or Twist, or Lola, or a Blue Point, or Fogo De Cho, or Ruth Chris"

Yup, any one of these would be greeted with open arms (and open bellies).

BTW - if you are looking for great Thai food, we found the best one at the corner of Gingercake and Hwy. 54 - Thai Jasmine next to the Subway. It is great (try the Thai Herb or Stir Fried Glass Noodles with Chix).

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Some of you people must think you live on Sunset Boulevard!
How on earth do you think Peachtree City, in a recession especially, would ever support such a restaurant that sells $50.00 plus steaks?

I realize that you would like to have your own private restaurant (anything but cooking) but most of us think that is debauchery!

Emerils? Again, those places hire a $150,000 executive Chef, plus several assistants, who all get bonuses, and build a $5 million dollar building. He has several now going broke!

It is like a good Cafeteria type restaurant, they need a thousand customers a day to feed you everything from fillet to oysters.
Not here!

Why do people throw out their wishes that are obviously ill-thought out? More of that "positive thinking" stuff, I suppose.

go try Thai Jasmine. It rivals any Thai restaurant in Atlanta, and right in our own backyard.

Now, if we could just get a Mexican restaurant down here, that knows how to make a GOOD chili relleno and pork green chili....

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I said dare to dream......it's not like I thought they would move a good restaurant here. Shheeesh.

Pascal's, Village Cafe, City Cafe and now Niko and Sun Dried Tomato in Tyrone of all places.

5 really great restaurants within 15 minutes and you all are complaining? Or expect better? Get a life people, this is as good as it it gets here. We are not a good community for the resturants that expect high rollers and frequent visitors. Sorry. Sad, but true.

Might add Longhorn's and Carraba's to the list - even though they are second-tier places, but still very good.