A Few Minutes Well Spent

A Few Minutes Well Spent

"Less than five minutes.

That's the total amount of time the United States has waterboarded terrorist detainees. How many detainees? Three. Who were these detainees?"

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Perhaps you should join the Military
Submitted by D2 on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 12:36pm.

As an Honorably Discharged Veteran of the United States Marine Corps, I can tell you, the vast majority of veterans will disagree that "5 minutes" of torture is acceptable. Plain and simple, several members of the Bush administration by law are war criminals.

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D2, I doubt that will be possible
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Submitted by sniffles5 on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 12:54pm.

While the thought of the Citizen's racist-in-resident "thebeaver" in uniform brings a smile to my face, the reality is that I sincerely doubt this would ever be possible.

Although George W. Bush has made enormous progress in weakening the once-mighty military (i.e. 100% rise in "CatIV" mentally challenged recruits, lowering standards so that 73% of enlistees have HS diploma vs. 95% in 2004), there are still SOME standards remaining that should weed out undesirables like Mr. Beaver.


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I am not completely sure...
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Submitted by yardman5508 on Sat, 02/16/2008 - 5:54pm.

that state-sponsored torture is a mountain out of a molehill. Five minutes or five hours really sort of missed the point. We are ruled by a government that approves the torture of human beings. What other governments in the world {not groups of people, but actual GOVERNMENTS} support such a claim? Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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State Sponsored Torture? Yardman....
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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 6:31pm.

I understand the the 'jury' is still out in regards to water boarding but there are (former) soldiers doing hard time in Leavenworth for what happened at abu-gharib. I don't think that actually qualifies as "State Sponsored" or "Government Sponsored". Do you?

Keep it moderate bro - you are leaning a bit hard there...


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What’s a little water-boarding among friends?
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Submitted by Shadow08 on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 6:39pm.

What’s a little water-boarding among friends? Ok, you don’t fly planes into buildings, blow up embassies, attempt a Biological Weapons attack, issue Fattaws against the United States, and we won’t water-board you! Three water-boarders vs. 3000+ American lives? No brainer, water-board away you have my blessing, and thank you for those who go in harm’s way and have to deal with the “chosen few special ones” who don’t eat pork, and believe that they will get 72 virgins in the afterlife… 72 virgins, after about 12 I think you’d want someone who knows what to do! Pulled Pork Sandwiches for everyone!


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Time well spent indeed .... but
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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Sat, 02/16/2008 - 5:34pm.

... at what cost in the long run?

I do tend to agree that, like abu gharib, we have made a mountain out of a mole-hill. An issue - yes. of biblical proportions as promoted - no.

I feel like McCain might know better than me - I have never been in that position and he has. Regardless, my gut says 'do what you gotta do to get the information'.

War is certainly not for the squeamish or the weak.


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"Truth" sleuth, let's hope that....
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Submitted by AF A-10 on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 12:02pm.

raping their wives doesn't prove to be a highly effective technique. Think of how awkward it would be to draw straws determining who the "extractor" of information would be. Yeeeshh!

Kevin "Hack" King


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Ewwwww... Kevin 'Hack' King......
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Submitted by TruthSleuth1958 on Tue, 02/19/2008 - 6:26pm.

Oh no you di'in!

I am not sure that would work well but I know this, if Hillary gets elected, we would have to assign that to Larry 'toe tapper' Craig Eye-wink

Regardless, I have to agree with McCain that we have to rise above the temptation to torture. I would think he would know best. He certainly knows better than I would.

The closest thing to torture I encountered was (then) 20 year old 'C' rations, no beer, and a stint in tent city during Bold Eagle or Brave Shield exercises!

Well, there was this chick in Korea once.... but that's story for another day Eye-wink

Thanks for serving Kevin - I appreciate you.


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beaver
Submitted by sageadvice on Sat, 02/16/2008 - 5:19pm.

Who told you that? Suppose they could have lied?
Maybe they didn't know about all the prisons?
We just found a second double secret probation one in Cuba!
Anyway, I don't believe just three! That would be at least two too many!

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