If our little church ever closes the doors, I am afraid I would be like you just not go.

I have visited a few churches.

But haven't been impressed by the sermons.

I saw a book that you coauthored advertised on line. I would purchase it, But I am not sure I am smart enough to understand it.

How’s the Mrs.?

We are praying for her speedy recovery.

Hang in there it will get better.

You still use hymnals? Cool! Do people remember the names Frances Havergal, Isaac Watts and Charles Wesley? Do they sing "When I Survey" or "Alas, And Did My Savior Bleed" or "Fairest Lord Jesus" ("Beautiful Savior")?

Was there a great couple at your church who moved back to California two or three years ago?

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We still sing those songs, the music is a little different, same words, same meaning. I like them. It helps my son appreciate them.

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Hmmmm.....

Were the authors listed as "Muddle and [Other Name]?"

Else, I'm not nearly as anonymous here as I thought!

If it is the one I think you mean, then it isn't really co-authored. The publisher took something I wrote and something that PC wrote and then blended excerpts of the two into a kind of study guide.

They did this without consulting me!

I really don't much like the result. I had nothing to do with writing the discussion questions, etc., and they seem to take things in a direction not really intended by the original work.

Oh well.

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Hi Muddle,

Sorry for the late reply, I had a production meeting to attend.

Yes,

The book by PC and Muddle was the one I was referring to.

But I did see another book advertised that was authored by Muddle.

Do you know a R.Z?

My church is on the North side of Atlanta.

As for the songs that you asked about, Alas, And Did My Savior Bleed,
Yes the other two I’m not sure of.

I think our hymn books are like 1950’s editions; I will check and see if the other songs are in them.

Sorry don’t know anyone that moved to CA.

OK. I was guessing that you were a part of a church hyere in Fayette that sort of fits your description of your church. (This would also have explained your knowing my ID, the book(s), etc.) The "Californians" I had in mind were, of course, members of this local church.

Yes, the RZ thing is related to the other that you saw. PC edited the series of these booklets several years ago. It's a good series, as PC employed some good folks (all but one ) as authors. These are written on a popular level so that non-philosophers can understand what's going on. They have been translated into several languages worldwise, which is pretty amazing. (That's weird, because mine relies on a lot of humor and illustrations that really presuppose American pop-culture. How will someone in, say, Bangladesh, understand my reference to Bill and Ted's dialogue with Socrates ("All we are is dust in the wind, dude")?)

IVP took excerpts from mine and PCs, slapped a title on it (with which I had nothing to do), added some discussion question, etc., and aimed it at study groups.

It's still a mystery how you managed to unmask Muddle.

Tell your music guy that you need to pull out the hymn "When I Survey the Wondrous Cross" by Isaac Watts.

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Muddle,

(It's still a mystery how you managed to unmask Muddle.)

No mystery, A Wulfman has big ears.

Be assured that I respect your desire to remain anonymous.

I know the real names of several people on this site.

I haven’t and would never disclose a person’s real name to anyone on or off this site.

How’s the Mrs.? I hope she is getting better.

We’ll keep her in our prayers.

Well, I will be glad to introduce you to my father-In-in- law in heaven, he's a great preacher! I loved him so----

Now, tears- I miss him so, it's been 14 years and it seems like yesterday, he's there with my mom and sister and Rich Mullins.

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Confusing!
And you didn't want to be in his church?

Sir, what do you know about Christians? Well, use the brain God gave you- my father-in-law as all preachers had a different preaching style, God spoke through my father-in-law to reach the lost- and alot were saved. I admire my father-in-law, I cherish him, I RESPECT him.

God makes us all different, I grew up with the style of preaching he did, we never lived in his hometown when we were married, my husband was not from the same town I was.

We have growing periods that take different changes in our journey with Christ, you of course don't have a clue what I am talking about-

You know what you are a real bully on the internet just like with Hutch but I know in real life you are a whimp.

Go whimp somewhere else! No more discussions with you about my father-in-law, he knew I adored him and that is all that matters- he adored me.

BTW- I am still praying for you- "Hope Changes Everything" I believe this with all my heart!

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I can't believe it';s you- don't leave- stay on a little - have a few things to say.

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Answers to your questions:

I was brought up in the Southern Baptist church my grandfather was a preacher and two of my uncles are preachers. Our church is not a P.K. Southern Baptist Church.

Our pastor and congregation are quite happy being a small church.

We have no use for rock, contemporary and rap Christian music.

Were just fine singing hymns out of our 30 year old hymn books.

One question what is wrong with a Pastor of a large church making let's say a hundred thousand dollars a year?

Nothing if he is sincere and not just in it for the money.

Most of them are only in it for the money and if the church were to cut their salaries to almost nothing they would be off to another church before you could blink an eye.

Then we get to the TV preachers which live like kings and fleece their congregation promising everything from instant healing to making them rich. Sadly they target the poorest and least educated among us

Have you ever heard the old saying if he’s a preacher the woods are full of them?

The sad fact the woods are full of them.

The election,

Moral candidate?

Did someone new jump into the race today?

If not I haven’t seen one.

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Now you made me laugh, a P.K. is a preacher's kid. Next answer no, he was not a wild thing.

I don't have a problem with hymns, but I do like praise and worship, we are all of different personalities so we have different styles of worship. What some would say what some call hymns are mere country gospel songs.

My brother-in-law plays for a Southern Gospel Group- I like it if Russ Taff is singing it, or Michael English. I like hymns if I know what I am saying and there's not too many the, words I don't know what I am saying- alot of hymns were written during the depression- and can sound really down. Why Wulfman, I have reason to celebrate. Now, Fanny Crosby songs brings tears to my eyes, I read her story- find a copy= great book.

I'm still Southern Baptist so we don't get too out of control, well sometimes. I like rock music, so thank God for praise and worship, and CCM songs, see that's not for you= the southern gospel and hymns are for you and my brother-in-law. I do like some Gaither shows- if they have Russ Taff on them.

I think if we are born again- I am sure you have heard of that one- honestly some haven't- we will go to heaven. I plan on being there.

All I am saying is there are some pastors that make money, I think God knows who can handle the money in the way that He wants- meaning giving and helping others etc.

Not all pastors preach for the right reason, but God is Big and He takes care of that.

I love my father-in-law- I know he's happy in heaven, singing praises to God. I sure do miss him- I do remember happy times when we would visit and the service was blessed by God in such a sweet way.

Me, I can worship God with either style- God is worthy to be praised.

I will pray for your church and you pray for mine. My father-in- law would not have had it any other way- God called him to be a pastor of a small church.

Sweet memory- my father-in law would get up before the chickens, not me, I love my sleep and so did everyone else in the family. Well. one morning my son a baby had me up and we stayed several days with them, he always went to his workshop- and while I thought he was working- I found out from a neighbor after he died- that was what you called his prayer closet.

I miss him, my mother-in-law gave me the bible he used when he preached, that will be passed down to my son= the best gift I got from him was his love and how he showed God's love daily in the small and big things.

Hey, now Wulfman you tube some Kirk Franklin- I know you have seen mine on here- we are having church. He has a book, it's great.

click here Kirk

click one of my favorites

click this has helped me with my mom, sisters, and father-in-laws not being here.

click how could I not like this.

Good Morning BPR,

I guess you don’t know, when the letters P.K or used in front of Southern Baptist it usually means they are members of Promise Keepers.

I have no doubt that your father in-law was a good preacher.

As for the first three videos I have absolutely no interest in that type music.

The last video was spot on.

As for a moral candidate sadly, I haven’t seen one.

I know about Promise Keepers, and yes they are some in our church.

I think you need to listen to the lyrics, how in this world could you not like "Praise The Lord"- the lyrics are what's important.

According to the bible how did David praise God? Hey, give God your best praise- He loves it.

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I have no interest in Brother Franklin’s or anyone else’s contemporary, rock or rap Christian music.

Some how I think David’s praise to god with a bunch of rag tag musicians sounded better than Brother Franklin’s best talking song. The man can’t sing.

If you choose to listen to it more power to you.

Yeah, I voted but it wasn’t for Huckabee.

"I have no interest in Brother Franklin’s or anyone else’s contemporary, rock or rap Christian music."

You've just uttered fightin' words in today's spiritually anemic / intellectually deficient / theologically ignorant culture. THANKS!

Actually, David was quite an accomplished musician and the emphasis of his music (the Psalms) was on God, not himself -- his gyrations, his self-aggrandizing vocal style, sensual music, etc. He didn't copy the style of degenerates: the Beatles, Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, et al.

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Albert Einstein is recognized as one of the smartest men who has ever lived. A little known fact about Einstein is that when he was young he did extremely poor in school. His grade school teachers told his parents to take him out of school because he was "too stupid to learn" and it would be a waste of resources for the school to invest time and energy in his education. The school suggested that his parents get Albert an easy, manual labor job as soon as they could. His mother did not think that Albert was "stupid". Instead of following the school's advice, Albert's parents bought him a violin. Albert became good at the violin. Music was the key that helped Albert Einstein become one of the smartest men who has ever lived. Einstein himself says that the reason he was so smart is because he played the violin. He loved the music of Mozart and Bach the most. A friend of Einstein, G.J. Withrow, said that the way Einstein figured out his problems and equations was by improvising on the violin.

[It's a good thing that his mother didn't hand him an electric guitar and saturate his mind with rock music. ]

Hi Denise,

Yeah,

Guilty as charged.

But I hope people will forgive me when they realize that I’m stupid and can’t read.

I Liked the Einstein article; I played the bass drum in the marching band way back in my school days.

Do you think if I drag the old drum out and start playing it again I could get smarter?

My neighbors may complain, could you give me one of those subscriptions to play the drum so when they called the cops about the noise I won’t get in trouble?

Thinking back, to when I was in High School I did think I was the smartest person in the world.

I had second thoughts later when Dad told me not to join the military with a war going on.

I got a real reality check when I got off the plane and the enemy was shooting at me.

Maybe I wasn’t as smart as I thought I was?

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Do what you want- you answer to God not to me.

David's praise was loud and joyful- do you know how to read???????

Or btw have you read it?

Freedom- Thank God for the USA!

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Yeah, I can read,

Thanks for the insult.

Now you may find it interesting when you make a general statement there maybe more than one answer. Such as P.K. Preachers Kid or P. K. Promise keepers.

I was referring to:
1 Chronicles 23:5 (King James Version)

As for my preferring the old standard hymns to the other type’s of Christian music, and my not believing in Brother’s Hinn, Osteen and Dollars abilities to heal me and make me rich.

I don’t think God will hold it against me.

I will take my chances.

Pray for this guy's family as they grieve and are in pain of his loss.

click here

I probably work for you and you pay me. Figure that one out- you can't.

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I do on my own company and we do have 63 employees. But I don’t think you are on our payroll.

You may work for some kind a government funded preschool program that I pay taxes for?

It's nothing like that. But I do work for you and you pay me.

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I count it an honor to work for you.

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Well,

I assume that you must work for a fed, state or county government or a utility company.

It’s an honor to have you work for me. Just don’t ask for a raise, business is a little slow right now.

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None of those- I won't ask for a raise you pay me alot already. Plus I get a yearly raise every year from you. Thank you.

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You maybe the first employee that I ever had, that was satisfied with the raise they got.

You made my day.

You have a blessed day also.

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Add these people to your pray list-

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Done.

Gotta go to work, take my son to school. Have a blessed day.

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Think there will will be a run off for your guy and will he win?

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When the bottom line becomes the most important part of what you do, then you have lost sight of what you should be doing, which is, for churches, spreading the word, and, for governments, working in the citizens best interests.

Sad but so true my friend.

by Jim Wallis entitled "God's Politics" which points out many of the problems suffered by both churches/believers and governments. He writes about how we are called to stand up for that in which we believe. If we wish government to be moral, it is up to us to make sure that those we elect are, indeed, moral. An eye-opening book that I recommend to any believer who wishes to translate moral beliefs into government policy. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Thanks,

Sounds like an interesting book, I will pickup a copy.

Thank you, for letting me know that I will receive ten paychecks in a row. For my tide to Brother Dollar.

I will try to send Brother Dollar 8 boxes of tide this week.

Does that mean that I will receive 20 paychecks in a row?

I will tell the rest of my family and they will send tide too.

If you use tide you may want to go to the store before they are sold out.