If your title was appropriate.

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"Hope Changes Everything"

Do you mean Hades?
You really ought to read my blurb---it is in answer to Denis as best that I could!

If you are right, I'll be looking for ya on that Gore approved bicycle.
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"Gore approved bicycles" would certainly be an option. Heck, it has worked in the Far East for years. But, realistically, beyond that, there are currently all sorts of hybrid vehicles that would accomplish the same thing, with more being produced every month. There are even Hummers (for all you SUV fans) that out perform the current models from GM, while utilizing alternative fuels. And you can't tell me that if we, as a nation, committed some of our industrial resources to the creation of energy saving vehicles (even some that are profitable), we couldn't come up with some form of transportation that would be "earth-friendly"? Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

have not taken this issue seriously enough. We are consuming 21 million barrels of oil a day. We should have started back in the '70s.

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Spot on.

Both parties keep saying they have the better plan, to solve our energy problems.

Eight years with a Republican President and before that, eight years with a Democrat President and very little progress made.

that transcends politics.
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please explain. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Hubbert Peak

Our domestic oil production peaked in 1970.
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shouldn't that merely accelerate our research into alternate methods of energy, for military as well as civilian use? Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Let's "accelerate our research into alternate methods" and quit wasting massive dollars, food resources, and water on ethanol production which, at it's best, is only as lasting a fix as temporary tax reductions.

How about increasing our use of nuclear fuels and continue development of hybrid and electrical vehicles. It's going to take some time, but I firmly believe a solution is in our near future.

I too have a dream. I dream of a day when countries like Venezuela, Iran and Saudi Arabia drown in their excessive oil stockpiles. Meanwhile, let's protect and concentrate on our strengths.... perhaps realizing the importance of our food producing power that we can and should use to our benefit in years to come.

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Absolutely!!! We need to take the lead in this. The bio fuel "thingy" is not the key because it competes with....food. It is also not dependable due to environmental fluctuations. We can do this. In fact you should have already been doing this. Our elective legislatures have been sitting on their.... and now we are in a bind.

In the mean time we need to open ANWR and all other off shore sites including Florida. I'm not an alarmist but I'm tired of seeing our elected officials acting like the three monkeys concerning this(See, hear, and speak no evil).
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Cyclist,
I agree with you and Git about ethanol not being worth it, but biodiesel is a different matter. I don't know if you ever drove a diesel car, but they have vastly improved since the 80s. Good acceleration, and excellent gas mileage--20% better than the equivalent gasoline engine. And the modification needed for a diesel car to burn biodiesel is very minor.

As for biodiesel competing with food, we have a vast amount of untapped capacity to grow more crops, here in the U.S. Crops that are not being grown because the money's not there. It's about time we started tapping our own resources instead of paying Arabs for crude oil.

I also agree that we need to start building more nuclear plants. Main point--we need to get off our rear ends and get going before this turns into an even bigger crisis.

It is my understanding that the stalks of the MaryJane plant (Cannibus) are very good fodder for fuel generation!

However the leaves can not be used to manufacture fuel.

Some trailer scientists are experimenting with the leaves to see if there might be a good commercial use for those.

When and if that use is found, then we can afford to make fuel out of air. It is my understanding that if we take all of the hydrogen out of the air that the earth will automatically produce more to combine with the leftover oxygen to make more air that we depleted with the hydrogen splitting for use in a hydrogen auto and bus.
I know that sounds complicated but it can be done.

Atomic trains are also being experimented with--where the large condensers on the train supply the cooling water needed for the atomic process to make the steam to run the train. The hot water generated is pumped back in the train to storage cars, cooled by refrigeration, and bottled for home use.
The trains just make circles all around the USA, continuously, dropping off drums of water at $2 per gallon.

Brown & Williamson Tobacco Company has the rights to the process.
Free Water goes with the cartons of cigarettes made from the leaves.

for those leaves you mentioned in the first part of your post, nit. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Is it profitable?

who knows, man. I'm not into that commercialism thing. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

I like turtles(they're biodegradable)

O wad some Power the giftie gie us,To see oursels as ithers see us!
(R. Burns)
If we could see ourselves as others see us, we would vanish on the spot.
(E. M. Cioran)

Did you ever try to guess how many pounds of leaves, or for that matter how many individual leaves, fall ofn all the hardwood trees every fall?
Just think what a supply of raw material that would make, along with the pine needles, for some new product?
All that happens to them now is that they pile up in the woods and eventually rot. Except for California and some parts of Georgia, where they burn up and take a few homes with them! A few are now burning in Texas and Oklahoma---or is that sage brush?

There are turtles mixed in with those leaves, also.
Do you suppose we could make brown wrapping paper out uve them? The leaves--not the turtles.
They are biodegrdable, The leaves not the turtles, but get no chance to biodegrade due to thuh fars. I guess turtles also biodegrad!

Maybe Mike King would rather do this than own an sprinkler inspection company?
Check it out. I'll do thu plannin.

Did you ever try to guess how many pounds of leaves, or for that matter how many individual leaves, fall ofn all the hardwood trees every fall?
Just think what a supply of raw material that would make, along with the pine needles, for some new product?
All that happens to them now is that they pile up in the woods and eventually rot. Except for California and some parts of Georgia, where they burn up and take a few homes with them! A few are now burning in Texas and Oklahoma---or is that sage brush?

There are turtles mixed in with those leaves, also.
Do you suppose we could make brown wrapping paper out uve them? The leaves--not the turtles.
They are biodegrdable, The leaves not the turtles, but get no chance to biodegrade due to thuh fars. I guess turtles also biodegrad!

Maybe Mike King would rather do this than own an sprinkler inspection company?
Check it out. I'll do thu plannin.

ever have Deja vu?

O wad some Power the giftie gie us,To see oursels as ithers see us!
(R. Burns)
If we could see ourselves as others see us, we would vanish on the spot.
(E. M. Cioran)

Don't like the French nor their language!

but that is not an excuse for not starting now to do it. If we don't attack these problems now, we may ALL be riding bicycles before too long...or moving to the coast of Colorado. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.