At FCHS, you gotta learn to hold it

Tue, 01/29/2008 - 5:07pm
By: John Thompson

During classes, there’s 1 locked bathroom for all 1,300 high school kids

If you attend Fayette County High School these days, you have to develop a strong bladder.

That’s because officials have locked down all but one bathroom while classes are in session. That’s one bathroom on the entire campus for more than 1,300 students.

After the class bells ring, any student needing to answer a call of nature must first trek to the school office, ask permission and wait for officials to issue a key to the visitors’ restroom. Sometimes there’s a line of students waiting for the one facility, according to one student.

School spokesperson Melinda Berry-Dreisbach confirmed this week that a new bathroom policy is in place at the high school. The policy is in response to an arrest Jan. 3 of a student at Fayette County High School for participating in a “beatdown” gang initiation in a school bathroom Nov. 1, according to police reports.

The new policy mandates that if a student has to go to the bathroom after any class has started, the student has to head to the office and obtain a key to the visitor’s bathroom.

While students are in class, the bathrooms near the classrooms are locked and only open during the time that students change classes. But the added bathrooms’ availability is dependent on teachers with keys opening the restrooms during the short breaks between classes.

“It’s not a district-wide policy, but something the administration felt was needed to maintain the safety of the students,” Berry-Dreisbach said.

She added that other schools around the state have implemented the policy, so this is not something new the school system created.

But students at the high school are not happy and have sent in Free Speech items to The Citizen voicing their displeasure.

“I think you’ll find that most students want to use the bathroom for its intended purposes. A few fools shouldn’t ruin it for the rest of us. For goodness’ sakes, it was only ONE incident! Bathroom gang fights don’t happen every day, or even every month. There is no reason to take such harsh measures for an isolated incident. And besides, what’s to stop the gangs from finding other places to fight on campus? What if a gang fight occurred in the Commons area? Should we lock that down too?” wrote one student.

Berry-Dreisbach said the system realizes it’s an inconvenience, but the system maintains a priority on student safety and this was a measure that needed to be put in place.

But writers to The Citizen said the policy is not being carried out correctly.

“What a mistake. I went to the bathroom that was located nearest to the class that I was just in. The door was locked. I stood there and waited for two minutes, but no one came to unlock it. So I decided I would try a different bathroom downstairs, which would be closest to my next class. It was locked as well! So I just decided to forgo it and go to my locker. As I walked by the restroom while walking to my next class, I finally saw a teacher unlock it.... Right when the two-minute bell rang. If I had gone then, I would’ve been late for class. How can these teachers expect us to go to the bathroom between classes when half of the time, the teachers themselves are too lazy and/or irresponsible to unlock them? This rule is unnecessary and absurd, and it should be repealed. It creates more problems than it solves and reflects poorly on the administrators who thought of it.”

The teen responsible for the bathroom lockdown is Andre Scott, 17, of Vickery Lane, who was charged with four felonies relating to gang activity and one misdemeanor count of disrupting a public school, police said.

Fayetteville Police Chief Steve Heaton said Scott is apparently a leader of the gang called GBD, which includes members of the nationally based gangs, the Bloods and the Crips.

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Submitted by Howard Beale on Mon, 02/04/2008 - 2:47am.

To the FCHS student quoted anonymously in the article: I understand your perspective and appreciate your argument. I am not angry with your comments and I don’t think that you are libeling your school. If the bathroom situation is anything like you say it is (and I have no reason to doubt you), then I cannot support the school’s position. However, my argument does not concern the bathroom fiasco. I am offended by the supposed “journalism” purported by this paper. It would be one thing if your comment simply appeared on a blog, but your unsigned letter was not only published and delivered to driveways throughout Fayette County, but also quoted in a front page article.
If the situation is as dire as you claim, and if this paper upheld the slightest level of integrity, you would not have been quoted without offering your name. If you were actually quoted, or if your signed letter had been published, I believe that your teachers would have commended your boldness and sense of civic duty. I am not deriding your comments, but I am ashamed that Fayette’s primary “news-source” would quote it. This is not a matter of what should or should not be reported, but how. FCHS student: this is not journalism. This is an embarrassment. For those of you that appreciate Thompson, fear not. He ain’t going anywhere. Once you work at a tabloid like this, it becomes hard to move up in the legitimate journalistic ranks. If he’s lucky, he might get a job in cable news. (Thanks again “nitpicker1” for getting the sad joke)

Submitted by whiteboy on Sun, 02/03/2008 - 10:42am.

first of all if you had seen the video of the fight it wasn't much of a fight. Second they have all gone off to juvee or left the school, so why lock it down after the chickens have left the coop? Becuase it looks tough. As i read the comments below, kids walking the halls, sex in bathrooms, graffitti in bathrooms, it sounds like a school that is out of control and has no clue. It couldn't be the administrations fault, can't be the county's fault, it must be those gangs, or those kids.
What you have in that school are just a bunch of silly kids who get mesmerized by the gang culture and become wannabees. A gang intiation is not two kids scuffling in a bathroom and a bunch of kids watching. That's pretenders. Five kids beating someone half to death, girls getting stabbed 14 times, real violence, real blood, robbery that's a gang. An over zealous DA putting wannabees in juvee for 30 days is no way to solve a problem that didn't exist. The problem is a school out of control. Why don't parents monitor the hallways? If they don't want parents in the building it's because they don't want you to see how bad it is. It's our money, it's our school; they work ( if you can call it that) for us.

Submitted by Howard Beale on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 1:24am.

It would be one thing if this forum were a typical degenerate blog, but Thompson claims to write for a newspaper. Yet, he quotes anonymous internet sources (like this one), along with a single school official and somehow, his lowly editors place his drivel on the front page. “The Citizen” is an ugly tabloid embarrassment and an insult to our community. All you bloggers enjoying the discussion on this website ought to form a serious real life discussion group, or at least write signed letters to the editor... until then, you are the problem. You and the people who publish these anonymous comments are the reason that this community is prognosticated for a downturn.

Submitted by drstrangelove on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 1:58pm.

What's wrong with anonymous postings? I am the student who was quoted in the article, and I have some good reasons for not writing a signed letter to the editor. Think about the negative consequences that could result from my comments if I had signed my name. Teachers would know who I am, and I doubt that they'd be fond of me after what was said. This would impact the rest of my high school experience. You know how teachers talk. When I get a new batch of teachers, they might have preconceived ideas about me in their heads (if I had my name published). I just didn't want to take any chances. However, I did feel the need to speak out, as I see this policy as a great injustice to the students. My comments are my opinions and an honest representation of what I've experienced at FCHS. I'm not trying to slander the school or anything like that. So please calm down and take others' advice. If it bothers you that much, don't read it!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 9:53am.

Gee Howie, how self righteous can you get. Here's a suggestion for you, if it offends you don't read it. Throw it away, you don't pay for it, if this site offends you don't look at it, see how easy it is?

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Submitted by ptctaxpayer on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 10:27am.

Disagree Howie-Thompson does a good job. I disagree with Dollar and Howie. Great that you put your name out there Howie. Don't expect high school students to totally speak their minds because they might suffer great unpopularity. Heck, when we point to Jim Pace's leaking roof as the DevAuth wheelbarrows the cash away, the whole Chamber of Commerce strips us of all Christmas invites and parking passes. Even worse for a high school kid. (Gosh, I sound like Dollar). Ole Diceman got trashed on just because I talked about the former White House Woodwinds Ensemble. Whodathunkit.

Let me ask you this---- can you name one time that Thompson had a big blunder that required a retraction? Not me. People like Munford are afraid of their own shadows, for fear of getting cut off and not getting info from the insiders. Thompson has always tried his best to write the story even if it made people uncomfortable.

Hutch is right. You ain't paying for this so just give it up.


Submitted by sageadvice on Sat, 02/02/2008 - 4:25am.

The Thompson article was a little over the top as far as investigative facts are concerned, but I am more ashamed of the Citizen for their columnists than I could ever be for Thompson and Fayette County High School's bathroom fiasco.
The whole country soon will be going back to democrat rule--except for Fayette County--and I doubt they ever will!
Still afeard of 1865, I think!
Most are "not going to take it anymore, stick your head out your window and shout, I'm not going to take it anymore as loudly as you can."

Submitted by wheeljc on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 5:24pm.

Are we giving into the hoodlums? Do we fear them more than we cherish the freedom of the innocent kids? Is our intelligence on the potential gang activity so poor that we will 'punish' the masses to preclude perceived bad press for the school? ONE RESTROOM FOR 1,300?? COME ON FOLKS! Can only imagine what it is like when the bell rings!!

Sadly, FCHS will be the poster school of 'government schools' for the next few days, and will lend increased credence to the NEED FOR HOME SCHOOLING AND VOUCHERS!

Let's give this one some more thought folks!!

PS: How many are now late for class as a result of going through a 'goat ropin' to get a key when the bell rings???

Submitted by Vernon on Fri, 02/01/2008 - 12:21pm.

It's not just the school system. Almost every government department in Fayette Co., and perhaps other counties, make mass rules and punishments for the action of a few. The heads of departments find it easier to hide behind a stack of rules and paperwork rather than face the minority of people doing something wrong and punishing them. Another term is "over reacting". Use common sense!

Submitted by sageadvice on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 6:31pm.

The answer is NO!

If I had kids there I would be there for a day or two and check it out for myself.
If they refused me entrance, I would be back with 15 more the next day!
They really think that a few days of this torture will solve the problem! It will make it, or something else worse.

Submitted by JL4842 on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 12:06pm.

To the "school administrator". You really are perpetuating the impression most of us have of government schools. Lets think through your logic. "This policy keeps students in the classroom"....Really? So before a student asked the teacher if they could go to the bathroom during class then they would wander around. Now that these students have to come to the office for a key they will no longer just leave class and wander around!? Amazing how you think. So how exactly is this helping kids stay in class. Is the teacher calling the front office to make sure the student got the key? When are they/you supposed to check on the student? Do you give them 3 minutes for #1 and 5 minutes for #2? Further, why make the student go all the way to the front office? Why not just give the teacher a key. When the student needs to go the teacher provides a key that only fits the closest restroom. That way they can check if the student is taking too long to finish their business. Honestly, their isn't enough room here or time in the day to bash your lack of common sense.

Submitted by sageadvice on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 12:37pm.

All this bathroom stuff reminds me of the time I went to the Courthouse near the Fayette library to find one department. There were no signs to indicate the closest place to park for any department. I parked and walked maybe three blocks to the building. Of course I was on the wrong end.
I tried to discuss with an employee very casually that it would be helpful if they had a sign or two to indicate where things were. Her answer was: why? "we all know where everything is and have a close-up parking space, anyway."

Submitted by Dondol on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 11:21am.

What happened to punishing the guilty and not the whole student body. When I was in high school our bathrooms were monitered by the teachers on a rotating basis and everything worked fine. Sure we had the occasional tift or fight, but the guilty party was punished, NOT THE WHOLE SCHOOL! What about the children that are Diabetic and have a sec.504 plan on file, that states that they are allowed to go to the bathroom at anytime and without asking. Diabetic children usually don't feel the urge until its almost to late. Also the 504 plan is a civil rights document under the Rehabilitation Act of 1973 (Public Law No. 93-112). So me thinks that the FCBoE has not completely thought this one trough. But this is typical of our BoE, act first, think later!

Submitted by lucidoll on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 8:13pm.

There's a good idea! Hold it until it's an emergency =D!
yeah. I'm sure every doctor will tell you about how healthy that is.

Submitted by lucidoll on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 8:07pm.

As a student, I must say that this is rediculous. Instead of taking five minutes out of a classroom it takes someone half the period just to go pee. You might as well hold our hands on the way!!! Were teenagers, and unfortunately not everyone has the brains to not beat up some random kid in the bathroom but 99.9 percent of the school had nothing to do with it. We just want to go to the restroom... After all.. How many of these types of things have happened? One??? out of the 1300 people 1 person acts up and everyone is punished? It would be one thing, in the 5 minutes we have to get on the other side of the school to class, if they actually UNLOCKED the bathrooms... some of the teachers open it for about 2 minutes then lock it back.. another part open it after the two minute bell.. and the rest of them don't even open it!

Oh, and we can't forget the raw smell of sewage throughout the school because our school was too cheap to install traps on the sewage lines.

Submitted by sageadvice on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 7:57am.

The most important invention for civility in 7,000 years. Just imagine how those cave-men caves smelled in the winter time!

Now we want to send our kids back to those times! Bet the administration and teachers don't write graffiti on their walls, do they? Wonder why?
Does any gang of teachers ever pile-up on another gang? Bet not.

How hard can it be to run the bathrooms properly? I can remember a coach or principal storming into a bathroom and straightening out everything in there that might be going wrong! Including the girls---we had a mean woman coach! She would paddle their rears with her hands. Nobody got hurt just embarrassed.
Except for smoking, which we could flush quickly, we were afraid to do much else. But even the smell of smoke meant several hours after school getting to the bottom of that!
By the time you got home the school had sent an administrator before you to "explain" your lateness! Yes, they knew where everyone lived.
It ain't hard, just takes devotion to discipline on the part of the school. Schools taught more than readin ritin and arithmetic then.
They don't even teach that now since half of the students can't read. Would you believe how many graduates can't read or write cursive?

Submitted by Dan on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:12am.

Can't they just put the magnetic door locks on the doors so they can unlock all the doors from the front office? Oh wait! That would mean someone was thinking about this. I will go back to my hole.

Submitted by sageadvice on Thu, 01/31/2008 - 8:00am.

You MUST be kiddin! People who can think aren't running schools, they are working at the Pentagon!
We simply refuse to sort the kids who can learn from those who can't or don't. Same school, different classes and teachers.
Most of them could major in sports, farming, welding, bricklaying, driving, bulldozers, or minor supervision.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:15am.

but the taxpayers will cry about the cost

I still think it would be easier to kick out all of the illegals.

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Submitted by All Smiles on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 8:06am.

Give Melinda Berry-Dreibach toilet duty! She fits that bill just fine...has anyone ever met anyone who likes her? She is a terriable public speaker as she walks and talks as if she were programmed. Learn to become more life like.


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Submitted by gelato on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 7:24am.

How about if they hand out "DEPENDS" to the students as they walk into school in the morning? Students should then remove them before leaving the school...maybe at the front office?


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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 7:30am.

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are, that's funny.

This locked bathroom thing is a crazy situation. Surely all those great minds could come up with a better plan than locking the doors! Maybe some off duty police officers who are looking for extra income. I well understand that teachers, administrators, and SRO's have much more to do than monitor restrooms; however, someone needs to be checking on activities.


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Submitted by ImJustSaying on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 7:19am.

Punish all the people instead of singling out the offender and making an example. I'm afraid I wouldn't set a good example as I'd pee on the wall if I had to go. How can administration regulate bladder and bowel movements for a student population of 1300+, or even one person. It is a reasonable expectation that in a public facility, proper and safe restroom facilities be available at all times. The administration may well be able to have it's way with the children, however, where are the parents on this issue?? If gang activity flourishes in the public facilities then it is the school board's responsibility to make and keep the restrooms safe and accessible. Certainly locking the doors is not the answer, and I'm sure the smell of vomit on the floor is a distraction to learning. C'mon Dr. DeCotis, get a proper grip on this before someone is needlessly embarrased for having a bodily function. GEE WIZZZZ


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:24am.

If we would just make an example of the offenders, punish them severly the other potential troublemakers will get the message.

They need to get the message that Fayette County "culture" involves obeying the law.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:53pm.

What's more insulting....Fayette County High's ridiculous restroom policy or John Thompson's flippant headline?

Tough call.
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Submitted by MajestySeeker on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 8:45am.

I actually thought the headline was kind of creative.
I'm pretty speechless as far as this policy goes it's completely opposite of what should happen. It's actually nice to see the High School students speak out in this case as they need to be heard!

FCHS should call in and pay substitutes to monitor the bathrooms in this case (not sure if there is a shortage of subs but that's my first thought), or pay some of the bus drivers extra pay after they finish their bus routes to monitor the restrooms!

The school shouldn't lock them! The staff shouldn't worry about the parking lot, they should focus on "inside the school". Start focusing on the important issues that are inside the school where the students are and where the "Gang Initiation" took place.


Submitted by heatjam on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:09pm.

This policy is absolutely ridiculous!!! It leads to more time out of the classroom! That will sure help keep our schools at the top!! Why don't they just have the Asst Principals (each HS has 4 of them) and the School resource officer roam the hallways? They would surely hear if there was something going on. Also, they can take the doors off that lead to the hallway. The HS that I went to had no doors to the hallway and it was just fine.

Submitted by chloe_elaine on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 1:34pm.

If you go around Fayette County High School and listen to everything that the people have to say then you will be shocked that the majority of it has to do with the new bathroom policy. The new rule at FCHS starting about two weeks ago was that unless you go to the restroom between classes then you have to go to the office to get a key. Many people think that this rule is ridiculous only because they think that it is for one reason, they are wrong. The bathroom rule was made not just for the gang beat in many weeks ago but also for many other reasons. These reasons are graffiti on the walls, smoking in the bathrooms, sexual acts being performed in the bathrooms and children not even going to the restroom when they have a pass but they end up just roaming the hallways.
I myself am I office aide and I have to deal with the harshness of the students when they go to the bathroom. They do not realize that the people in the office are not too thrilled about the new rule but it was something that had to be done. The “key” rule was only supposed to be temporary but with the outburst and rebellion from the student body there is no telling when the keys will stop being passed out.Also this policy is helping the students stay in the class. unless it is a complete emergency they need to stay within the class and learn instead of using the bathroom for something that isnt even a emergency and in which they could hold and wait to go in between classes.
Some people think that this new rule is the problem but if they would quit overreacting then it would not be that bad. When I pass out keys in the office on average it takes a guy less than three minutes to come to the office, use a key, bring the key back and go back to class. On average for a female it takes about five minutes for the whole process. Many of the students are very vulgar when it comes to the bathroom and said many rude things including cuss words to myself and the administrators. It is a shock at how the student body has reacted, I myself know that you do not have to go to the bathroom many times a day and if you do then there is a problem. You can control yourself to once a day and if many times then you can go to the restroom in between classes.
Maybe if everyone ranting and raving would actually go to the school and see that there are no lines and there is no reason for everyone to be so infuriated that they would shut their mouth. I am yet to see a student use the bathroom every class period and if they do there is a problem.

Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 4:49pm.

Someone working at the school can't write any better than this? And has no understanding of the exceptions! Once a day to the bathroom?
Do I understand that they ARE NOT locked between classes, but are and someone stands there with a key? What are the details?
Is it sex, graffiti, smoking, or fighting that is the problem? All of them you say?
Sounds like a planning problem to me! Don't totally blame minorities for these uncivil actions.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 1:41pm.

It's time for us to bring back paddling.

Wow they need to be suspended, and the parents need to fined everytime their little "angels" can't control their foul mouths.

This is one of the more outrageous things I have heard yet. What kind of horrendous people raise vicious brats like this??

Submitted by chloe_elaine on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 1:45pm.

i've never seen my fellow peers act like this before. yes they cuss and its not the out of county kids doing only, its the all american athletes and the honor roll kids as well. The new rule isnt that ridiculous and i invite everyone that has a problem with it to come to the school and watch.

Submitted by daisyheadmaisy on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 3:41pm.

thanks for posting from a student's and office aid's perspective. I would ask why you weren't in school today, but I remembered. How is your Mom doing now? Take care of her and yourself.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:17pm.

There are other duties for the Administrators and the SRO to perform than roaming the halls (mostly paperwork for the APs and patrolling the parking lot for the SRO and patrolling the cafeteria during lunch for both)

Also, there are no doors to get into the bathrooms, just gates.
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Submitted by chippie on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:42pm.

to their restrooms, except for the ones in the Commons Area, and those are open with no doors or gates.


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 9:21pm.

Really?

I must only remember the Commons area ones. Wasn't the new FCHS built after SCHS?

Cause SCHS has no doors to get into the bathrooms.
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Submitted by chippie on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 6:29am.

When we moved to Fayette County, I think the new (current) FCHS was begin built, so I don't know which high school was built first between FCHS or SCHS.

Maybe you can clarify something I heard: in the past, SCHS has done something along these same lines as FCHS is doing now with the locked restrooms. Does this ring a bell for you, or since you're a recent SCHS graduate, can you elaborate on it?


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 9:15am.

After someone set off the fire alarm on the Fine arts wing (before there was a camera installed in that part of the wing) the gates were put on the bathrooms and not unlocked unless you got a key from one of the fine arts teachers or a janitor, but those two were the only bathrooms that got shut down.

Nothing this extensive has happened at SCHS as far as I know.
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Submitted by chippie on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 10:45am.

for the explanation.

FCHS really needs to find a better solution than what they're doing at this time.


Submitted by heatjam on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:24pm.

Well then all of the teachers should have keys (or at least the teachers with classrooms closest to the bathrooms) so that at the beginning of EVERY passing period the bathrooms could be unlocked. I am just thankful that my children will not go to FCHS!!

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:39pm.

I'm not sure how many teachers have a key to the bathrooms, but they should all have keys and should coordinate who's job it's going to be on a certain day to unlock the bathrooms.
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Submitted by chippie on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:45pm.

Daniel & heatjam: there is at least one teacher on each hall that has a bathroom key and is responsible for unlocking them during class changes, then locking them afterwards.


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 7:50pm.

Parents of FCHS, has you child been ill lately?

Have you had to seek any medical treatment for your child since this ‘one’ restroom policy has been implemented?

It looks as though this policy might be cause for a “Child Cruelty” and/or “Child Endangerment” type lawsuit should any child be denied the use of restroom facilities and become ill as a result.

I would advise you to tell your kids to keep a record of the “time” how long it takes to leave the class, get the key, do your business, return the key and return to class.

As a basic rule of law/life he who documents wins.

I wouldn’t think that the FCBOE could place the health and safety of a child, in their care, in jeopardy because of unrealistic safety concerns.

I could be wrong but I would bet that the burden of proof rests with the school, not with the students, to make a case that this policy is necessary to ensure the safety and well being of the students.

The FCBOE could be forced to “show cause” and if incidents like fights in restrooms aren’t documented or there are so few as to show that the new policy is unreasonable, things could change for the better.

FEDERAL PUBLIC RESTROOM REQUIREMENTS INITIATIVE

“The Dept of Health & Human Services has a legislative mandate to protect the public health and the Dept of Labor has documented that 'holding it' too long impacts ones health. Nudging Congress to take action, while still a challenge, will likely be significantly easier then getting new legislation. We're our advocating for more complete implementation of existing legislation. A few congressman asking in concert, or perhaps even just one, could get DHHS to better address the issue.”

“If DHHS had a clear-cut statement that forcing people to 'hold it' has a negative impact on their health it would help in almost every aspect of ARA's goals. While school restrooms are outside ARA scope, a clear DHHS mandate on the subject would provide much more power to those challenging school principals even if the schools were outside the scope of the Federal mandate.”

“Now, few people, including apparently some school principals, seem to understand there are health implications when people are forced to 'hold it' when they have an urgent need to void.“

Talk about a great Civics class exercise.

Some, if not all, Fayette County schools require students to attend community meetings as a part of their Civics class assignment. They get to sit through a City Council meeting without saying a word.

Parents, why not take this opportunity to give your kids your own Civics lesson and involve them in the process. Start a letter writing champagne. Start with the City and County Councils, congressmen, and Governor. Make sure to target the news media as well. CNN has a long reach and national embarrassment works wonders.

I would guess that if our elected officials started receiving hundreds of emails from students and the news media requesting information, something might come of it.

It wouldn’t surprise me on bit if the school principle or FCBOE Superintendent were to ‘find a surprise’ in his or her trash can. I would suggest that you discuss that and other issues with your parents first.


Submitted by sageadvice on Tue, 01/29/2008 - 8:06pm.

Of course the bathrooms could be open as usual---maybe with an official at each door. They don't want to do toilet duty (never have) and won't.
It is just to make a point about how dare you embarrass us!
School administrators never have been the sharpest pencils in the can.

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Submitted by Newsboy on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 1:32pm.

In my three years at FCHS more than 20 years ago, I don't recall EVER using the bathroom ... and few of my friends did, either. It was a risk even back then! Instead, my bladder was "trained" not to need a break between 8:25 a.m. and 3:30 p.m.

As soon as I got home? Well ... that's a different story.

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Submitted by sageadvice on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 4:38pm.

You mean they haven't been able to figure out how to run bathrooms inside in all that time?
I never did see the girls or the teacher use the old outdoor johnny, come to think of it! I think they went home and came back!

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Submitted by Main Stream on Wed, 01/30/2008 - 2:22pm.

"It was a risk even back then! Instead, my bladder was "trained" not to need a break between 8:25 a.m. and 3:30 p.m."

Reminds me of a kid in Second Grade (Ernie), who always smelled like pee.


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