Some at NAACP gang forum criticize local cops

Tue, 01/22/2008 - 5:11pm
By: John Munford

Some at NAACP gang forum criticize local cops

It was a community forum sponsored by the Fayette County chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) about how to deal with a reported increase in gang activity in Fayette.

But gangs were not the only groups coming in for criticism at the event Monday night in Fayetteville.

One parent, Wendy Felton, said she is afraid about the possibility that her college-age son or daughter will be pulled over by police.

The Rev. William Brown said it’s important for law enforcement officers to be seen as “public servants, not as public threats.”

“When police are seen as a threat ... that’s a problem,” Brown said. Brown operates a ministry to gang members in DeKalb.

Fayetteville Police Chief Steve Heaton said he didn’t understand why people feel afraid of police, a comment that drew several vocal groans from audience members.

Another citizen criticized local law enforcement agencies for racial profiling on traffic stops.

District Attorney Scott Ballard said if racial profiling was part of a gang case, he didn’t think the case would be successful. He added that he doesn’t anticipate that happening.

“We’re careful not to jump to conclusions” about gang affiliation, Heaton said. He added that police look for several characteristics of gang involvement when doing gang investigations.

Race, he said, is not one of those characteristics.

“It doesn’t even enter into it at all,” Heaton said. “... What we don’t want to do is use gang enhancement statutes on those who don’t need gang enhancement statutes.”

Heaton said the police department will soon have a gang intervention program that officers will teach to elementary school students. Fayetteville police are also preparing in coming months to hold community meetings on recognizing the signs of gang activity.

Felton also criticized Fayette organizations for not being more diverse in terms of the employees hired, adding that she worked for the city of Fayetteville for five years.

Heaton said he finds it difficult hiring well-qualified officers no matter their color, as college degrees are preferred among officers but those with college degrees can get better paying jobs than police work.

Felton offered her phone number to the audience for anyone needing help to find a summer camp for their children, saying she knows of many that are free.

Resident Alice Jones, a panel member representing the NAACP, lamented that college students are having to leave school and come back to Fayette County for trials, adding that she wants to see alternatives to jail.

Felton said it is incumbent on the community to make sure that all children are reading at grade level by third grade to avoid them going into jail when they grow up.

At the end of the event, one speaker from the audience criticized officials for not speaking of several “gang symbols” when others were mentioned earlier such as the star of David and pitchforks.

“How come nothing was said about swastikas and the Confederate flag?” the panel was asked, as the speaker noted those were signs of skinhead gang activity.

Ballard replied that the county hasn’t had any problems along those lines, but if it did those participants would also be prosecuted aggressively on gang charges.

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Submitted by 30YearResident on Fri, 01/25/2008 - 1:04pm.

Fayette County never had a gang problem until the percentage of black students started increasing in our schools. If they brought in that culture, or if they were targets for being recuited doesn't matter. The facts are that gangs are part of the black and hispanic cultures, not white. Whites usually either join or organize gangs in order to have a mechanism to protect themselves.

This is NOT right, but it's the facts and some of you need to wake up and realize it.

Change the culture, stop allowing your kids to adapt the gang dress code, the gang rap junk they listen to, stop supporting those radio stations that profit by piping that junk into the airwaves. Pay attention to the type of crap they listen to and don't support or allow it. Watch how they dress. Who are your kids heroes? Look for tatoos. Check out their rooms on a regular basis.

There's a lot that the community and the families can do rather than blame the cops for "profiling". If it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, IT'S A DUCK !! That's not profiling, that's using common sense... something that a lot of you seem to apparently lack based on your comments.
Good Grief !!

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Submitted by John Munford on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 10:43am.

The original version of this article incorrectly stated that Ms. Felton has recently written letters to the editor critical of local law enforcement.

The current online version of this article has been corrected to eliminate the error.

It is the policy of The Citizen to correct errors of fact upon notification.


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Submitted by 2boysRmine on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 9:18pm.

Proper education and the willingness of all parties to hear and learn the truth is what is needed when speaking of the Confederate Flag. Those that use the flag to represent themselves in a negative way are misinformed, in turn, people such as those at this meeting are under the impression that the flag is a symbol of hatred, which it is not. Those who have respect for their Southern heritage know the true meaning of the flag. By the way, this flag not only represents the heritage of white Southerners, it represents the heritage of all Southerners. It is not a symbol of hatred. Please educate yourself and others. "....communication today is a key element to our cause of education of the truth. Unfortunately, the Flag itself has repeatedly come under attack because of its misuse by some people, and lack of education of its history on the part of others. The flag cannot defend itself when being misused by certain individuals. An educated public is its best defense." http://www.scv.org/documents/edpapers/flagfacts.doc


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:36pm.

the NAACP presented its evidence of racial profiling that several claim they have.
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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:26pm.

Resident Alice Jones, a panel member representing the NAACP, lamented that college students are having to leave school and come back to Fayette County for trials, adding that she wants to see alternatives to jail.

Why the heck are college students coming to Fayette County and committing crimes? I'm just guessing.... but, I think that what Alice in Wonderland is implying is that a college student's I.D. should double as a free 'Git Outa Jail Card'. Shocked

Let's see.... the college kids get busted for an offense that warrants a trial and our law enforcement agencies are supposed to let them off because they are 'students'? Puzzled Are these people for real?

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Submitted by thebeaver on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 12:36am.

Seriously. I would like to hear what alternatives Ms. Jones would like to see. This lady is absolutely unreal. What planet is she living on? And she is a "leader" in her community? With thinking like that, no wonder North Fayette is so screwed up.

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Submitted by thebeaver on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 12:51am.

My alternative to jailtime for these thugs is locked and loaded.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:32pm.

your favorite DA is getting a lot of press.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:25pm.

babies. Gotta come back to Fayette County for trials. Please, someone tell me that this meeting did not really happen. Kind of like that satirical letter to the editor. Smiling

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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:29pm.

Please tell me I didn't miss it.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:30pm.

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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:47pm.

Hey Cy... watch this...

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Submitted by thebeaver on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 12:42am.

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Submitted by sniffles5 on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:56pm.

I kept waiting all day yesterday for you to bump the Mt. Olive thread. I thought you'd forgotten! Man, what a trip down memory lane reading all that situational outrage. And leading the pack was Enigma....of course.


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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:59pm.

And I actually thought that perhaps there would be no need to go there this year. How naive of me.....

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Submitted by Jawdropped on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 3:37pm.

I understand and appreciate that we have been given Freedom of speech, but Git Real, you need to Get Real. I am ashamed to even read some of your blogs. You are the most racist, hypocritical, sarcastic, and rude character that I have come across. Please find something else to do with your time.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 8:12pm.

I deserve to be silenced. My apologies. I shall find something else to do with my time.

Good bye,

Git


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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 3:40pm.

You're #1, way to go. Keep reading Jaws I think you'll be surprised.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:53pm.

Say its not so. Shocked
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Submitted by tollbooth1 on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:11pm.

Mrs. Felton,
If you look on the homepage of the Citizen one Agency is offering a Citizens Police Academy. I would Love to see your photo hanging on the wall at the Police Department as an attendee. Maybe a little education in law enforcement will open your eyes to the stuff that actually goes on in the community.

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Submitted by Enigma on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 9:40pm.

Wendy Felton - the Race baiting, cop hating, big mouth ... how very pathetic that she was able to procreate. I went through seven years of college and never went to court ... gee ... obeying the laws ... what a concept.

I wonder what community she will infest once she has destroyed Fayette?

Goodbye Fayetteville - hello Riverdale.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 9:54pm.

"the Race baiting, cop hating, big mouth" Where do you get this?! What has she done to you, or the community, that causes you to react this way?

Would you please email me and take this offline, because I would really like to know what set you off (I know Wendy).

This racial hatred is disgusting and I even question the ability for our community to get along anymore.


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Submitted by Enigma on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:34pm.

I felt quite sure you knew "Wendy". Birds of a feather and all....

She is a cop hating excuse maker and I suggest you read her letters to the editor and the responses by your community.

Perhaps some of the local readers can 'enlighten' you.

In addition, I believe the NAACP is a racist and divisive organization used to divide, inflame, and distract.

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Submitted by wildcat on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 9:37pm.

I seldom see those painted or drawn anywhere. I take that back...I have seen swastikas (doodles, "taggings" ???)within the past year, by a black kid. Does that make a difference, or is it only offensive when done by a white kid? By the way, that question was not meant to be sarcastic. If I remember correctly, Confederate flag clothing was banned at SCHS, right?

Gang activity needs to be stopped and there does not need to be any interference from quibbling panel members.

Alice Jones-boo hoo for the college students that have to come back for court. If you lay down with dogs.....deal with it.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 9:50pm.

Confederate Flag clothing was not banned at SCHS (at least not in the past 5 years). There were some situations at Flat Rock concerning racial shirts (Look into the archives for this story. It was sometime in the past year and a half), but as far as I know, students were "seriously dissuaded" from wearing the Dixie Outfitters shirts with the Confederate Flag on them, but they were not banned.
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Submitted by wildcat on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 10:06pm.

I'm sure you're right as you're SCHS '07 drumline!! I'm old and I can't remember everything like I used to and I sure don't have time to look things up! Thanks!

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 7:32pm.

I hope the kids in gangs get the message: zero tolerance means just that ZERO TOLERANCE!

To Alice Jones: if those "college students" would stop commiting crimes here they wouldn't have to come back to go to trial. They need to learn that there are consequence for breaking the law. They may get jail time and have to repeat a semester. The parents need to teach their kids that there are consequences for bad behavior.

Alternatives to jail??? Huh?? Did she really say that?? The problem is for years the parents of these kids have been trying "alternatives" instead of using common sense and discipline. That's why these kids are out of control now. Alternatives don't work!

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 01/22/2008 - 7:39pm.

As a college student, when I hear about a fellow pupil lamenting about having to go back to their home to go to court and also about having a test on the same day.

I just start laughing because many times, the professors make them take the test early or forfeit the grade.

Maybe that will teach them their lesson.
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