shadowalker

i must say i think you are on another planet
you not to bright are you

ill bet there are 20 or more involved in this crime
put up road blocks if you dont have a fayette county tag
turn the car around

fayette county sucks now that we are the new riverdale
just keep on sticking your heads in the dirt

The invetigators from the S.O. were required to obtain arrest warrants for the 14 arrested. This meant they presented their case to a magistrate judge who determined there was enough probable cause to issue the warrant. Chances are the 14 arrested were involved, will all of them be found guilty, probably not, there are sympathetic juries, along with incompetent prosecution, and good defense lawyers. The strategy of "arrest everyone and dont let the lack of eveidence get in the way" is BS, this isnt the south in the 50's and 60's. Let us all watch this play. PS They weren't caught stealing beer, it was 80+ guns that are not being used for what they were designed,I am most positive of that.

Since Dec. 5 - I have had a feeling of insecurity knowing that somewhere in our community were individuals who had the fire power to do great harm. Kudos to Fayette County law enforcement!

I wouldn't be feeling too safe yet. They didn't mention if any of the guns were recovered. And I bet these thugs weren't from our community but from Clayton County.
But I agree, our law enforcement is great!

You're so right - back to insecurity and reality. I hope it's published when the weapons are recovered.

do you really think they're from county to the east?
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Don't rest too easy. It seems many of our regular posters here are well armed and a bit high strung.

I can't speak to the "high strung" part of your post but as for being well armed, rest assured.

What exactly do you think was going to become of those 80 guns that were stolen? It would be good to hear that all of them were recovered.

There's a good 'letter to the editor' you should read.

Ga.’s gun laws – even for those with permits – make sitting ducks of us all

When criminals have guns the only way to win is to have bigger, better and more guns in the hands of law abiding citizens.

Not that they don't try but, 'there's never a cop around when you need one'.

It's a lot easier to 911 once the criminal is dead.

This whole guns for self defense issue is indeed a difficult one to get to the bottom of. There are good arguements to be made in both camps. If you want to boil it down to a simple case of " a competent and decent citizen has a gun on him while a bad guy commits a crime and thus gets the drop on the bad guy and saves the day" well then, yeah, that scenario would seem to justify carrying a gun for self protection. Unfortunately, the off chance for such a scenario to go down like this falls short of a convincing arguement for arming everybody in the hopes of deterring crime. We live in a society predicated upon the rule of law. In such a society, people go about the business of living, expecting within reason for others to behave lawfully. You don't drive a tank to work because some random nut might shoot at you even though it is possible. But you might, for example, use caution in a bad part of town at night, that's where the reasonable expectation part comes in. Most crime happens suddenly and without warning for the victim. Just because we can truck out the rare case where a bystander with a gun could have saved the day doesn't make up for the myriad problems posed by thousands of would-be Dirty Harrys drawing a pistol at every perceived threat. Few people are competent and capable of safely handling firearms loaded and ready for self defense. Few people are capable of behaving calmly and rationally in a dangerous situation. NO people are legally or morally entitled to act as judge, jury, and or executioner simply because they carry a weapon. It's bad enough that we let everyone above a certain age handle a steering wheel, I certainly wouldn't feel safer being anywhere where all the yahoos around me are carrying guns. Like I say, this is an issue that can't be decided in a few blog posts, but these are points I feel need to be made to appeal to our better angels. Let the law and law enforcement work. Let society work. We don't need to go back to the Wild West. Just my 2 cts and thanks for listening.

LordByron, glad to have you on the blog.

"You don't drive a tank to work because some random nut might shoot at you even though it is possible." You’re correct, we don't drive tanks nor should we have to. Although there are times when trying to commute to and from Atlanta that I truly wish I did drive a tank.

An additional thought on that subject would be the requirement that every few years everyone has to re-take a drivers proficiently test. The state of GA ranks as one of the lowest for experienced drivers actually knowing the rules of the road.

As to you statement of: "But you might, for example, use caution in a bad part of town at night, that's where the reasonable expectation part comes in." I personally don't go into a "bad part of town" at night or in broad daylight. Odds are there's nothing there I can't buy somewhere else.

The only real problem I have with your logic is that the "bad part of town" can be anywhere. The Avenue, Kroger/Target, Wal-Mart/Home Depot, local apartment complex or the parking lot where I work. The location of crime is just as random as the type of crime. (No I don't work at a Post Office)

As for, "NO people are legally or morally entitled to act as judge, jury, and or executioner simply because they carry a weapon." it is somewhat inaccurate. In the state of GA, yes you can be, legally. See "Georgia 'shoot first' law takes effect"

I agree with your statement, "Few people are competent and capable of safely handling firearms loaded and ready for self defense. Few people are capable of behaving calmly and rationally in a dangerous situation." As I have expressed many times before people that have guns need to become and stay proficient with them. That means taking classes, often. Not just one but one every few months.

There are always news articles where trained police officers have shot at a suspect several times and missed. Happens all the time, anybody can panic.

So like driving a car, before you get a license you practice, practice, practice, take classes and then practice some more. A concealed weapon permit should be no different.

Just wondering, could there be any connection between the burglary/robbery of ammo store and Student arrested at FCHS Both articles stated "gang related". All arrested very close together. Maybe 1 person arrested decided he was not going down alone, and wanted to take his "friends" along with him. Who knows, just feel better about the arrest in general.

Wonderful to see a story about law enforcement being effective! Congrats to all involved!