"...Doesn't bother me, I expect it from this part of the country.

Okay, where are you from superque? How much do you know about "this part of the country"?

And, for Pete's sake, what does this mean?

"All the bullys in my HS are now serial killers and my little crew in HS called the Gents was a gang because it was more than 3 of us and we wore jackets...but we had to be a real gang right, if we fought someone we our social club is suddenly the Bloods or Crips?"

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Sniffles05:Jeffc calls for your explanation and apology.

People hear that a kid posts a video of a fight on his MySpace page and all of a sudden he’s not only in a gang but he’s the leader. According to news reports and based on what he's been charged with, one can easily conclude that he, himself, was not participating in the videotaped fight; otherwise he would have been charged accordingly. Also, according to the prior post this kid has no priors, made good grades in school and was scheduled to graduate this year. Those are characteristics of a good high school student, not characteristics of a gang member or a gang leader. Although staying to witness a school bathroom fight and posting it on the internet might be stupid, it doesn’t seem like grounds to assume the kid is the leader of a gang and should be thrown in jail.

Tis kid was not only arrested on what looks like it could be a shabby case, he’s been tried and convicted by the mass media, by the school system and by the people participating in this post thread. I thought this was America where the law states people are innocent until PROVEN guilty.

Shame on all of you!!

As I understand and read the information, this courteous fellow advertised on MySpace the trouble he intended to cause. . .hello!!! Or was he being courteous by letting us know he would be causing trouble and when to expect it? Help me understand.

I believe the police have had enough training to know the difference between a courteous young man and a thug. I'm an everyday citizen and can walk through WalMart and see the droopy drawers, twisted caps, bling, grillwork, etc. and one can see by the way the conduct themselves if they are just kids going with the fads, or if they are someone who might tickle your nose with a weapon.

This fellow may be wrongly accused, that should come out in the end somehow and then we will all know. However, based on the info I've seen, I'd say he was planning to make trouble, gang or no gang.

Patrolling MySpace and looking in on the people in the area is MUCH MORE VALUABLE when it comes to dealing with gangs and their activities. The RSO, officer at the school, is in charge of locker thefts, kids skipping, ect. Officier Bob's job does not deal with school kids. It just so happens the perps were of school age and attend a school in Fayetteville. My child trained under Officier Bob and I can say, he is a GREAT ASSET to Law Enforcement, the Fayetteville Police Department and the citizens of Fayetteville!!!!

His job does not deal with school kids? He's the police officer at the school.. If his job does not deal with the kids, then why does he chat and joke up storms with many of them at lunch? Or why is he quick to arrest the school kids..... if his job isn't to deal with them? Why is he too good to get off his butt during class and patrol the hallways looking for little thieves or kids skipping class instead of browsing MySpaces? He probably just happened to stumble upon the video without even looking for anything involving gang activity or things of that nature, because he was probably looking at the profiles of girls that he talks to on a regular basis.

Let's see... What problems did Andre cause at the school before this whole ordeal? Uhhhhh.... Well.... You don't know, but i remember seeing him in school everyday in class!!!!

Do something better than browsing MySpace officer Bob. People at the courthouse actually get paid to do that, you get paid to take care of the campus.... Now... If you were doing your job, i wouldn't have had to pay a stupid obligation for a book that got stolen.

slowwlllyy.....no one will get hurt.

Actually the cops, local and federal get paid to monitor "myspace" and other web sites because KNUCKLEHEADS brag about their crimes on line. It makes for many, many, easy arrests. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

His parents and all parents should be very computer savy and check "myspace" everyday to see what their little um, ...."angels" are up too. So you are right about one thing the cop should not have had to check myspace. The parents if they were responsible parents would have already been on top of it.

You must work for the Bushies homeland security or something to think that surfing the internet prevents crime. Like Freh says, that guy was probably just checking out teenies on myspace and stumbled upon this stuff. What a hero! Maybe next week he'll bust a gay prostitute ring while browsing Craig's List.

Yet you can't dispute the fact that by surfing the internet they caught this kid. Do you know officer Bob, my kid thinks the world of him. I know she wouldn't be afraid to go to him with a problem. I think it's pretty cheap of you to make that kind of remark about him when you obviously don't know him.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Of course she thinks the world of him. He was probably looking at her myspace, and decided to venture on from there.

Let me just say this to you boy, you can run the man down just because he took down your little gang leader if you want, but the fact remains that your gang leader is in jail the cops did the right thing and just for your info, my kid has no myspace page. So the next time you lose your book take responsibility and don't claim it was stolen, pay your obligation and look for another gang banger to take up for you when the big kids pick on you.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Right! All of these parents have the latest in computers and HS internet, along with my space, etc! Not the answer.

The FPD saw little Andre's MySpace page, not Officer Bob.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/14973089/detail.html

It says officer bob found it and GUESS WHAT?? He IS PART OF THE FPD. Think about that one.

YOU were the one stressing Officer Bob's job was at the school, and his job should be walking the halls and looking for thieves who break into lockers and the very threatening students cutting classes, not checking MySpace pages.

What grade are you in at FCHS? You need to start paying attention in your English/Literature classes because learning to write correctly is very important, but if you're only striving to be a part of Gangland, then good luck, fre, I believe you're going to need it.

And.... I was just pointing out the fact that a major news station said that officer bob found it, and you tried to say otherwise. So i'm sticking with them. Maybe you should tell them that they're wrong......

I graduated, thank you. Passed all my English classes, as a matter of fact, and never desired to become part of your little fantasy "Gangland" whatever that is you're talking about. =)

Happened in November, 3 months? Lets see December would be 1 month, it's now the beginning of January, not even 2 months, I'm guessing you're not a math major?

I yam what I yam....Popeye

How dare you expect any attempts at excellence in learning or thought by our young folks.

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have you know I ain't raced in years

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That is a good one. Ha.

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to get together with the Cy and I for lunch one day.

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Are you really that ignorant?

A side note to the so-called parents out there: Let Little Frehah serve as a exemplary icon as to why your teenage children are in desperate need of continued strict supervision and instruction.

Now.... why are we failing our jobs?

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Frehah is sound asleep tucked away in her - or maybe his - warm bed safe from gang members and other criminal activities because of those men and women that protect us from that element.
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about gang members or terrorists...I live in a gated community. Keep the faith

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

"Demoville". Is that where the Kennedy's live? Where the elite meet in their bare feet. Does Cynthia McKinney still live there or was she a victim of the sub-prime man.

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I yam what I yam....Popeye

I've played putt putt. Does that count?
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To tell the truth, you're only 9 holes of real golf behind me. I thought you had to golf to work at an airline.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

I'm not an ODD (Original Delta Dummy) but a WAD (Western Airline Dummy). Many ODD's are heavy into golf. WAD's, like me, are just heavy from fried food. Golf was not a prerequisite for employment at the other airlines I worked for.
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that e-mail never did appear.

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let me check something.
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Check now.
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not even in the bulk.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

I re-sent the e-mail from the other night. Is your e-mail box maxed out? Have you received other e-mails in the last day or two?
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Hutch's spam filter spotted your mohawk and blocked you?

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I've received multitudes of emails, some even suggesting my colon needs a good cleansing, and suggesting I'm somewhat deficient in my lower regions if you know what I mean.

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Team Viagra.
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Why don't you two get a room...............

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little too much information?
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talking about the size not the frequency, is that better?

I yam what I yam....Popeye

He, she, or it was probably exhausted from last nights foray at trying to achieve it's life ambition of becoming another 29 year old grandparent.

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I agree with Git Real - is that the only thing people can run to these days - yeah if you are anything but white, anything that happens, anytime someone gets caught and are attempted to be punished it is racism - now if a white person does something, the punishment is never enough to everyone else - I say if you smell racism - get out, go somewhere where you don't feel that way - truly the only people who are discriminated against, the only minority are white people - we don't have NAACP's or strictly black colleges where our kids can go for free - and heaven forbid we speak up - take that idiot fool up there in the Atlanta jail, Brian Nichols, he killed the judge and all those other people - excuse me, can someone tell me why he has to have all this money to defend him and so forth - someone just shoot the guy - it was all on video, I realize everyone is innocent until proven guilty, I believe there is no question where he is concerned and all that tax money going down the toilet for scums like him, but I guess if they didn't waste all that money, it would be racism - go away you stupid people!

While several other students pick on me. Andre chose to defend me and be my friend.

That is admirable. Many of us do the same without joining a gang. It's called being a good neighbor.

Andre was a good guy

Good guys don't join criminal gangs. Wuz up with yo thinkin'?

He was very well mannered and soft-spoken.

So was Ted Bundy.... He killed a whole bunch of people. I suppose what you're hinting at is compassionate gang activities.

How the heck they even know he was a supervisor/organizer of a gang?

Maybe he likes to brag? Has a big mouth? Someone ratted him out? It was common knowledge? Perhaps he had a can of spray paint in his backpack?

Do you know how many people are associating with a member of a street gang everyday?

And your point is? It's acceptable to overlook and and accept street gangs because someone else is doing it? Yikes... It looks like you my little friend are lacking in proper parental instruction. Dude.. your thinking ain't right.

in fayetteville?

Yes, there are a bunch in Fayetteville. It's time we round them up and ship them to Gitmo so we can water-board the heck out of them.

I smell racism?

Oh yeah.... racism. So that's what this is all about. I smell it too. (eyes rolling) To you it must be a sweet smell rising up in your nostrils. A sweet smell that resembles.... well.. resembles... 'the perfect excuse for your inadequacies and the bad behavior in your life and the lives of your gang thug predator buddies.

Now... let's cuff you and deport you to let's say.... Africa? (eyes rolling again)

PEOPLE! STOP BEING IGNORANT...

Right behind you Little Frehah... You lead the way.

CLICK HERE LITTLE FREHAH AND GET A GLIMPSE OF YOUR FUTURE WITH THE FUZZY THINKING YOU'VE AQUIRED THUS FAR OUT OF LIFE

Now, go ahead and label me a racist... I fully expect it from the likes of someone like you.

Have a marvelous day!

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Below is my opinion. I am an Adult who knows Andre. He is not what he's being labeled as. He is a loving 17 year old young man who behaved like a kid. He does well in school & hasn't been in trouble before. I had the pleasure of having him in my home this past summer where he participated in our bible study, helped family & friends, and is a true pleasure to be around. Come on now, a Look at the main piece of evidence. He posted a video of a fight on his my space. That’s what KIDS DO. NOT GANG LEADERS. I have never heard of any gang where the so called leader is the only on arrested. Have you? He is being used as a fall guy to fool the citizens into thinking the officers are doing great work. This whole case is sloppy. I don't approve of the violence. However have you ever been lied on? Accused of something you didn't do? How did you feel? What did you do? What if you, or I were a fly on the wall, and watching you or the police @ the station who didn't even read this child his rights until late in the evening. He’s a big kid who’s being profiled. He is far from the source of Fayetteville Gang Problems. PLEASE Don't Rush to Judgment.

Unfortunately, that is how things work in Fayette sometimes - my son has been told on several times for things he didn't do - but our teachers and administrators are trained investigators too - did you not know that? Yes, oh and they think they are so good at it too - see, they have a culprit - I'm sure he wasn't alone in the activities, but he's the one who got caught and they have, as you worded it, a "fall guy" - makes things look good - my son was punished for things that he didn't do starting in elementary school, regardless of proof or others involved who went unpunished - yes, the Fayette School system did a wonderful job with my son - poor Andre, even though there were others, he will be used appropriately to make a point - and not because of racism, I know because my son is white.

I don't believe that you, or Andre, will receive much sympathy on this blog, or even in Fayette County. Even a HINT of gang activity, will get a rise out of most citizens who live here. Your words are appreciated but taken with a grain of salt, really, because none of us want to see any amount of gang violence here, and especially in our schools.

There is something very disturbing and sickening, for a child to enjoy violence and then display it like it is a trophy, on MySpace. Andre is disturbed and it seems the Bible study group has not helped him! He needs to have the fear of jail, put in him instead. The adults that are close to Andre, had better teach that boy to become a man, the correct way, and not by beating some other kid's head in! I blame the parents, and I blame Andre. His violence is not welcome here. Any violence like this, gang related or not, is not welcome here.

Go teach your children better, please, for everyone's sake.

Your right if gang activity is going on a little at school it is going on a lot more outside of school. Out of the veiw of school cameras and watch. If gangs move in they will cause harm to innocent people just to improve their status. Not to just other gangs. That includes anybody they run across on that day, old, middle aged and young. Glad to see the county cut this snake off at the head but it is not the only snake around I am sure.

Unless the other incidents happened at school, why would the school cop know about it? At least he took the time to keep monitoring myspace and facebook and found it, which is more than I can say for the thugs parents.

I would bet the reason this kid and others are in these gangs is to compensate for bad grades and the fact that they could never be the football star. They are just acting out to be good at something, and this is the only thing this kid could be good at. If they can't read, and they are small this is the only way people will notice them because they don't fit in anywhere.

before you go blurting out this malarchy....

[[[[[I would bet the reason this kid and others are in these gangs is to compensate for bad grades and the fact that they could never be the football star. They are just acting out to be good at something, and this is the only thing this kid could be good at. If they can't read, and they are small this is the only way people will notice them because they don't fit in anywhere.]]]]]

andre had good grades. he's smart! FYI... he could read and didn't have to act out to be noticed cause people were drawn to him because of his positive attitude...

Perhaps they are in gangs because being a gun freak isn't enough "compensation" for their fragile egos. You seem to talk out both sides of your mouth. In an earlier post you ranted because a county-wide APB wasn't initiated for a runaway teen (you had to learn of it in the AJC), but feel a school cop shouldn't know about a gang problem unless the previous incidents occurred at school. You shouldn't both defend and complain about the lack of information communication between PDs at the same time. If they dropped the ball, they dropped the ball. Just my 2cts. Oh, what gang were you in in school? The drips?

Basmati my old hypocrite friend... bite me. If you're any indication of what I would have to deal with at the so called "superior" schools I'm glad we're where we are.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

... I was wondering, if basmati revealed himself again, would Cal banish him, again? Or has basmati served his cyber sentence, and is now able to return, as himself.

How long does banning last, Cal? Forever? 6 mos? Does anyone know?

Just a wonderin'

6 months would be a suspension, I would think banning would be forever. Cal turns a blind eye anyway. You notice that sniffles doesn't deny he's basmati, at least $ denies he's $mithpicker$.

I yam what I yam....Popeye

Did you get the e-mails yet.
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nope, not a thing

I yam what I yam....Popeye

It's a good thing we all have 9 lives. Basmati..I mean Sniffles and I are down to eight.

I never tell lies about people on my blog.
Especially if I think the truth will do more damage.

Did this banning cats come from $? You see he is not fond of some of the things we disagree on, I am a cat lover- so probably part of that is banning cats- expcept my avatar of a kitty is cute, yours is cute but looks like a lion. I had to do that to a couple of my very furry ones when they get mats in and I can't get them out. Your right we have 9 lives. I find this rather funny, I haven't had time to read it all, does he want to ban cat avatars?

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I can't believe I did that.

345 people who are watching.
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Cyclist is going off the air.
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Someone mentioned our DA.
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You mean Mr. Softy himself? The guy who is always looking for a camera to posture in front of? What a joke. You'd think Scooter himself solved the case.

I never tell lies about people on my blog.
Especially if I think the truth will do more damage.

{Time to sign my kids up for martial arts.}

how ignorant... fights dont start with just gang members...its anyone.

you wouldnt have to sign your kids up for martial arts if you would teach them how to avoid certain situations...gang initiations happen only when someone wants it...k thanks!

gang initiations happen only when someone wants it

Soooo..... Are we to assume that the victims of robberies, drive-by-shootings, violent assaults, and other heinous gang violence which is perpetrated on innocent victims is a result of their "wanting it"?

Little Frehah.... Are you really that stupid?
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Am i really that stupid? No, I am not. What Andre got arrested for was a fight in the school bathroom, a fight for some kid to be initiated into the gang. People CHOOSE to be in gangs, the kid CHOSE FOR HIS OWN SELF to be in the gang and wanted to do what it took to become part of it. Robberies, shootings, and assaults don't happen Exclusively by gang members, so open your mind. You shouldn't even think that gang members born and raised in fayetteville are that much harm anyway!!! Come on, its fayetteville for god's sake!!!! These kids are growing up in three, four, five bedroom houses, nice neighborhoods, quiet streets, respect their parents, and meet their freakin curfew at night, and probably seem like any ordinary teenager these days. But with closed minds like yours, I bet you already think the kids who wear baggy clothes (that usually match quite nice) and have a little bit darker skin are all in gangs anyways? Its fayetteville, wake up. Its not That serious!!! When they can, I'm sure they're going to college park or atlanta anyway!!!

there are parents? They had more on WSB TV just a minute ago. There are more arrests coming.
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there must be someone who is legally responsible for this individual. All "main" was saying is that something should be done to find out what the story is with them? Keep the faith

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

It could be just a parent as in a single parent household.
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