Observations at the end of the year

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As the year ends, I would like to make a few observations. These conclusions are, of course, only my opinion, but, since this is an opinion column, it seems appropriate. Others, thanks be to the American culture and to the United States Constitution, are free to agree, disagree, or totally ignore them.

Observation 1 – There is a decline in civility.

Perhaps we have always been an uncivil society but I think this problem has grown over the years. Maybe it’s due to the Jerry Springer-type programs, the smear and mud-slinging tactics that occur in politics, the lack of discipline in the home and school, or even the vicious accusations spewed by small people who think themselves large as they anonymously post on the blogs, forums, and bulletin boards of the Internet.

As someone who regularly gets pummeled by unsigned emails for columns I have written, I have developed a thick enough skin not to be too concerned by critics who remain hidden. Yet, it still is dismaying to realize that uncivil people appear to be on the increase and not on the decline.

On the news channels, guests routinely try to shout down their counterparts as they make their own points. On talk radio, both conservative and progressive, there is often heard a vindictiveness and a verbal brutality designed, not to inform, but to offend those with opposing points of view. Even some preachers seem to feel the need to blast away at those who have opinions or theologies different from the own.

Observation 2 – The only voices being heard are those on the extremes.

If I say that I have great doubts about whether the United States should have invaded Iraq, those on the right castigate me and accuse me of being unpatriotic. If I say I also believe that, since we are now in Iraq, we cannot simply walk away, those on the left treat me as a warmonger and a Neanderthal.

Every issue, it seems, is polarizing. No one seems to be able to rationally discuss anything without an argument ensuing.

I believe in a strong defense and protecting our borders. Yet, if I were a Mexican or a Central American, I would want to come to the U.S. to make a better life for my family.

I am pro-life but I also have serious doubts about the death penalty as it is presently exercised in America.

I believe that if somebody who can work and doesn’t work they shouldn’t eat. I also believe we have an obligation to the poor, the downtrodden, and the oppressed.

I believe in capitalism and, yet, am disgusted by rampant consumerism.

I do not believe in socialized medicine yet I recognize that somehow people who cannot afford medical insurance should be able to access the healthcare system — especially the elderly, the working poor, and children.

It seems to me that Senator Joe Lieberman, a Democrat with whom I would not agree on some issues, is one of the few politicians who are, at least, willing to talk about something other than the “party line.”

Are there men and women of good will who can lay down their own agendas long enough to accomplish something positive?

Observation 3 – There is a growing lack of humor in people.

If one tells a joke, someone is bound to get offended. If you ask, “How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?” you run the risk of being sued by the professional organization of psychiatrists (or whomever you substitute in the joke).

Nowadays, people laugh at the pitiful folks who eat mouthfuls of maggots on “reality” shows, or the skateboarders who smash their private parts against a steel rail, or the bungee jumpers who miscalculate the length of cord needed and simply crash to the ground far below.

Comedians, except for the class acts like Bill Cosby, see the need to fill their routine with the most foul and putrid language available.

Somehow, this is funny. Subtle humor, clean jokes, or tongue-in-cheek stories do not register with those of the “Jackass” mentality of humor (“Jackass” was a movie, a “comedy,” and is not a reflection on those who do not know how to laugh unless someone gets hurt doing something idiotic).

People need to lighten up.

Observation 4 – America is still the best country ever.

In spite of all our flaws and shortcomings, we spend billions of dollars helping people around the world devastated by earthquakes, floods, famine, hurricanes, and wars.

If something happens to us — a Katrina or a 9/11, for instance — we are on our own. For the most part, no one offers to assist us. Still, we reach out to those who suffer around the world, or over in the next state, or down the block. We are generous to a fault.

America is still is a place where motivated people can make a buck, get educated, build a life, and give the hope of a better world to the coming generations. Millions are still streaming, legally or illegally, to America. This fact alone testifies to its goodness.

But all this is just one man’s opinion and, in the end, that’s all this column is. Happy New Year and may God bless and prosper you!

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Submitted by Davids mom on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 9:15am.

I think there are more citizens that agree with you than those that disagree. Thanks for sharing your observations - and Happy New Year!

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 6:27pm.

I agree there has definitly been a significant decline in civilty.

This has been noticed by myself and many others on Sundays in particular. The times between 11am and 1pm seem to be the worst for ostentatious displays of impatience and gratuitous cussing. I pity the poor cashiers at our local grocery stores and the waitstaff of our many restaurants. These displays are acted out by people who have "dressed to impress". (and my what an impression they make)

Special note to the churchy church crowd: your lack of planning and poor time management does not constitute an "emergency" response from other people around you. If you don't have enough time for church and whatever other activity is sooooo important chose one only. Don't pull your buggy full of groceries into the 10 ITEMS OR LESS LANE and expect to be well received.

"father" Epps if you don't like what you see in the world or your community in particular: like the song goes "start with the man in the mirror" "ask him to change his ways" .

Let's tweak your little article a bit and challenge people to set goals for the new year.

How about if we all try to be nice to everyone we see for a least 2 hours after church on Sunday. Start small and work big. I'm not talking about helping others, that will hopefully come later in the year. Let's start small, by smiling at the people serving us after church even if they drop our tray of food. If we all start with small goals like this, next year at this time we will smile at people after church and cheerfully help others in need. Let's all take the challenge .....

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 8:06am.

"Happy New Year" - Hey, I actually made it up until 12, usually I am so use to my job schedule, I don't. Mr.bpr stays up until 2 or 3 most of the time and gets up at 6. Not me, I love my sleep, I am up because I can't sleep but I am going back to sleep, one of the joys of teenagers, they sleep- finally at age 13 he started sleeping in some- his birthday was Dec. 30th he's 15, I can't believe it - part of the reason I was up I was writing thank you notes to the little ones for presents for Christmas, they love to get mail and I had to do it before school starts back, but I go back to my other 2 jobs tomorrow - do you have to work today? I'll be looking for your red convertiable, if you don't drive by me too fast. Have a good one.

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Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 8:17am.

I'm off today. Have a good restful day, I'll try to do the same. Read my message to KBETS. That was the first I heard of his story, put him on your list.

Have a good day, it should be nice, just a little cold.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 8:10am.

Hope is to believe, desire or trust, to look forward to with desire and reasonable confiedence. to continue to hope, to place trust- I could go on forever. Hope is a GOOD thing.
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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 12:35pm.

This is a reference from what somebody said hope is:

"I have to admit, though, that I’m frustrated with the way we use that word “hope.” Much of the time, its usage has nothing to do with the way the Bible uses the word. When we hear someone say, “I hope,” he/she usually means, “I wish.” We go to the movie – “I hope this is going to be a good movie.” We go through a drive through – “I hope I get what I ordered!” I wish… I hope so… I expect…
When the Bible refers to hope, it doesn’t mean, “I wish.” In fact it means “I have confidence.” It’s not “I hope so…” It’s, I hope… so I have confidence. I hope … so I’m not afraid. I hope… so I can walk into the future. It is not wishful thinking. Hope is a gift God wants to give us. Someone said that this kind of hope… real hope... is like oxygen to the soul. We can’t live without it. We have hope because God is God. We don’t wish God to be God. Because we know God is God, we have hope."

If you want the rest of what hope is click here.

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Submitted by d.smith700 on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 7:54am.

It might be nice to live in a society where everyone shows deference to everyone else. One where no one says what they think about the others they read about or meet.
Being real nice face to face or in communications, but sticking the shiv in from a distance is hypocrisy.
We are influenced by our leaders and those in power as to how we feel we need to "act."
I would venture to say that if one had Cheney, Bush, and Karl Rove over for tea, it would be most pleasant!
Put them in an office with underlings, and you would be greatly surprised by the change of "civility,"
I think everyone knows this, but simply want everyone to be nice to them.
I can't explain the rude shoppers, eaters, and bar hops! Apparently the Father didn't convince them!

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Submitted by yardman5508 on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 9:49am.

while the lack of civility exists, there are most definitely things that are NOT being heard. Try these on and see how they fit, because there are most definitely other views of our priorities as a nation.{to save the trouble, I will admit that this is not on original but something picked up on a progressive website}

Declaration of Progressive Values

1. PATRIOTISM
We are loyal, patriotic American citizens who love the United States of America.

2. JUSTICE
We fully respect and abide by our country's Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

3. SERVICE
We voluntarily serve our nation, state, and local communities.

4. CITIZENSHIP
We believe positive citizenship in everyday life is our civic duty.

5. DEMOCRACY
We believe our government is truly legitimate only if it is "of the people, by the people, for the people."

6. FREEDOM
We believe no one's freedom is secure until everyone's freedom is fully protected.

7. OPENNESS
We believe healthy democracy requires informed citizens, so government must work in transparency-not secrecy.

8. PEACE
We believe our nation's best defense is a non-aggressive foreign policy that spreads global equality and human rights by moral example.

9. OPPORTUNITY
We believe the greatness of any society is measured by how it treats those who are most vulnerable and disadvantaged.

10. FAITH
We believe all forms of worship should be honored and respected, and we believe in the separation of church and state.

11. TRUTH
We believe human reason and reality-based science are God-given gifts that help reveal the wonders of the universe.

12. INDIVIDUALISM
We have absolute respect for human diversity and we defend the right to be different.

13. STEWARDSHIP
We are committed to protect planet Earth and preserve our natural environment for the health and enjoyment of all generations.

and to quote that old Lynard Skynard song; "ain't hidin' from nobody, nobody hidin' from me" Keep the faith

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 10:43am.

yardman, thanks for posting those.

Looks like the same values and standards our forefathers hoped we would all have, and live by.

Happy New year, yardman!


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 8:31am.

Maybe we can all chip in and get him a subscription to a newspaper.

”Observation 1 – There is a decline in civility.

Maybe it’s due to the Jerry Springer-type programs, the smear and mud-slinging tactics that occur in politics, the lack of discipline in the home and school, or even the vicious accusations spewed by small people who think themselves large as they anonymously post on the blogs, forums, and bulletin boards of the Internet.”

Maybe it’s due to the fact that you seem to live in some kind of bubble, totally oblivious to the real world that the rest of us inhabit.

Had you attempted to keep informed you might have been able to provide to your flock some possible solutions or at least words of encouragement to make their lives a little brighter.

I would suggest you try additional reading on any of the topics below and then maybe, just maybe, you might get a hint why there is a decline in civility.

Then you can attempt to formulate a ‘positive’ message instead of your complaining.

Here are 2007's top 10 stories, as voted by AP members:

1. VIRGINIA TECH KILLINGS: Seung-Hui Cho, 23, who had avoided court-ordered mental health treatment despite a history of psychiatric problems, killed two fellow students in a dormitory on April 16, detoured to mail a hate-filled video of himself to NBC News, then shot dead 30 students and professors in a classroom building before killing himself. It was the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history.

2. MORTGAGE CRISIS: A record-setting wave of mortgage foreclosures, coupled with a steep slump in the housing market, buffeted financial markets, caused multibillion-dollar losses at major banks and investment firms, and became an issue in the presidential campaign.

3. IRAQ WAR: The "surge" that sent more U.S. troops to Iraq was credited with helping reduce the overall level of violence. But thousands of Iraqis and hundreds of U.S. personnel were killed nonetheless during the year, and Iraqi political leaders struggled to make meaningful progress toward national reconciliation.

4. OIL PRICES: Oil prices soared to record highs, at one point reaching nearly $100 a barrel. The high prices, which burdened motorists and owners of oil-heated homes, nudged Congress to pass an energy bill that ordered an increase in motor vehicles' fuel efficiency.

5. CHINESE EXPORTS: An array of Chinese exports were recalled, ranging from toys with lead paint to defective tires to tainted toothpaste and food. Despite the high-profile problems, America's trade deficit with China was running at record-high levels.

6. GLOBAL WARMING: Warnings about the consequences of global warming gained intensity with new reports from scientific panels and a Nobel Prize to Al Gore for his environmental crusading that included the film "An Inconvenient Truth." Across the U.S., many state governments sought to cap emissions blamed for global warming.

7. BRIDGE COLLAPSE: An Interstate 35 bridge over the Mississippi River in Minneapolis collapsed during the evening rush hour on Aug. 1, killing 13 people and injuring about 100. The disaster fueled concern about possible structural flaws in other bridges nationwide.

8. PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN: In a yearlong drama with shifting subplots, large fields in both major parties battled for support ahead of the caucuses and primaries that will decide the 2008 presidential nominees. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama led among the Democrats; some polls showed five Republicans with double-digit support.

9. IMMIGRATION DEBATE: A compromise immigration plan, backed by President Bush and Democratic leaders, collapsed in Congress due to Republican opposition. The plan would have enabled millions of illegal immigrants to move toward citizenship, while also bolstering border security. The issues remained alive in the presidential campaign.

10. IRAN'S NUCLEAR PROGRAM: Worried that the ultimate goal is a nuclear arsenal, the United States and other countries pressed Iran to halt uranium enrichment. Iran said it never had a weapons program. A U.S. intelligence report concluded there was such an effort, but it stopped in 2003.
Just missing the Top 10 were the Southern California wildfires and the resignation of Alberto Gonzales as attorney general.

” As someone who regularly gets pummeled by unsigned emails for columns I have written, I have developed a thick enough skin not to be too concerned by critics who remain hidden. Yet, it still is dismaying to realize that uncivil people appear to be on the increase and not on the decline.”

Did you forget that you wrote, The accountability of free speech” Sometimes, I receive e-mails or letters, especially after a column that some find controversial. I first search for a name or signature. If I find none I simply delete it or toss it in the trash. If the writer doesn’t sign his name, I conclude he has nothing of value to say.”

How is it that you can have “developed a thick enough skin” from something you didn’t even bother to read?

Perhaps you should have submitted both of these editorials anonymously.


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Submitted by ptcgv on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 10:54am.

I’m not going to debate your blog on David Epps. Your tenacity will continue ad nauseam until we get to the ‘Jane you pompous…….”stand off.

This is to give other readers and bloggers a bit more insite. David has three sons. Two are local police officers and the other is in the military. His wife has her PHD in nursing. I cannot think of any other selfless or financially unrewarding professions to choose. I can honestly say they never crossed my mind when I had to decide on a job and monetary direction it would take. That makes five members of one family that chose to serve their country, their city, the health and well being of others, and minister to a church and it’s members. That’s quite humbling to me.

There have been very few births or deaths that David hasn’t been at the bedside for his church family. He is literally available 24/7 for anyone that needs help, counseling, or spiritual healing, regardless of their church denomination or beliefs. I am constantly amazed at how much he accomplishes in the course of one day.

He recently humbly and reluctantly was elevated to the station of Bishop within his church though you’ll notice he still uses the title of Father David Epps.

I believe in everyone’s right to blog under a pseudonym and respect those that use their own name.

New Year’s Eve has always been a reflective time for me. Not much into the parties, silly hats and whistles. I hope to be kinder, more gentle and understanding in 2008.

Bad_ptc, may you have a safe, prosperous and less caustic New Year.


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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 10:35am.

....most likely because of so many of the points you make. Remember 'trickle down' theory? What is happening at the top, is affecting the poplulace.

I hear of more crime in the inner cities, bankruptcies, foreclosures, job loss, soldiers being killed, lay offs. Epps sees incivility, because our country is so damaged right now. People are frustrated, and take it out on each other, obviously, just like we do on these blogs - liberal vs. conservative - and so on...

But Epps DOES live in a isolated world, down here, and most likely needs to get up to Atlanta and preach to the homeless at the shelter, at least a few times a month, so he can see the real world and understand why people are so uncivil and frustrated right now.

Hey, Father Epps... if you want to help make a change, for the better, so folks won't be so uncivil - VOTE DEMOCRAT! -


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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 1:02pm.

I don't think Father Epps will vote Democrat- after he reads all your blogs- btw you can't get to me with your avatar, I don't care- it just shows how unhappy you are. Are you ever happy? What has caused you to be so harsh and angry? Remember, I still like you because - read at the bottom of page.

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Submitted by d.smith700 on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 3:10pm.

A few Catholics vote Democrat, but generally Epps (Father) types are "conservative" voters as soon as they or their family sign up to make any money.
Nothing wrong with that as long as they don't forget the little guys the republicans hate.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 1:44pm.

I don't believe that you are the best judge of someone elses happiness. Many of the posts you have made, show an underlying personal depression, on your part.

I like you too, sometimes, when I'm not shaking my head in disbelief. (I do like your new avatar)


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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 6:44pm.

Thank you that you like my avatar- I thought it was cute. I'm a happy person, you just don't know me, if you would show up for coffee you would see. I like you all the time.

"Hope Changes Everything"


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Submitted by Main Stream on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 9:36pm.

You do seem like a likeable person, however, I don't think I'll be showing up at your coffee gatherings, unless we invite all of the other liberals too.

Just curious, what happened to that basmati person you all talk about? Did he/she do something to get banned? I hate to see people with differing opinions get banned - it can cause a blog/forum to become pretty stale and boring - don't you think? And I doubt that basmati morphed into another blogger with multiple personalities...


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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 1:06pm.

My new avatar are for all the negative things written, I'm not a negative person - my kitties I don't allow to see negative things.
Still friends because- read the bottom of page.

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Submitted by susieq on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 1:20pm.

I love your bottom line.
Without hope, we have nothing.

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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 6:40pm.

It means exactly what it says: "Hope Changes Everything" There is not a person without hope. We all have Hope.

"Hope Changes Everything"


Submitted by d.smith700 on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 3:17pm.

Does the word "hope" mean about the same thing to you as "faith?"

I was told once not to use the word "hopefully" in my correspondence anymore as it indicated a lack of effort to do better!

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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 6:49pm.

Again, there is not a person without hope. Hope changes everything. Can't you get it?????? Don't ask again- you will get the same answer- it's not that hard to understand.
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Submitted by d.smith700 on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 8:02am.

To continue to "hope" (desire) in an impossible situation instead of taking action.
I have to assume you mean that if you didn't have your "hope" that tomorrow wouldn't be any better than today?
What would happen if you planned something different for tomorrow and had "confidence?"
It just sounds wishy-washy to me.

Submitted by susieq on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 4:42pm.

Hope (to me) is wishing for something. Faith is believing you will get it.

Example: I hope I win the lottery, but I don't have much faith that I will win.

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1 Corinthians 13:13 --
And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
(This is the King James Version, other versions change charity to love)

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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 7:40pm.

If this makes it easier, hope changes everything for me everyday- my quote is not for just main , or d.smith, I believe it for everyone. It's not out of trying to be mean or nasty.

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Submitted by d.smith700 on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 8:08am.

It didn't change much of anything.

Submitted by susieq on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 11:24am.

bpr has more patience than I do.
I think you are a hopeless case.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 01/01/2008 - 8:17am.

You do it daily.

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Submitted by River on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 9:47am.

You really seem to have a chip on your shoulder towards Father Epps. His points are valid, at least to me. I see the decline in civility every time I go out, especially the way people are driving in traffic. More and more people are driving rudely, and road-rage incidents are clearly on the rise. His other points also seem valid to me, but if you don't agree, that's fine. I just don't see why you take such offense at his comments.


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Submitted by Denise Conner on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 8:43am.

I suggest that you listen the link in Cy's post "Heigh Ho Heigh Ho Its Off To Work...." Laughing out loud

"Maybe it’s due to the fact that you seem to live in some kind of bubble, totally oblivious to the real world that the rest of us inhabit. [Sitting with someone who's dying or comforting the sick and grieving -- Isn't that the "real world"? Puzzled ]

"Had you attempted to keep informed [he seems informed to me] you might have been able to provide to your flock some possible solutions or at least words of encouragement to make their lives a little brighter." [From what I've read and heard, he does this part quite well.]

Now, what was Pastor Epps saying about civility? Puzzled


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Submitted by TonyF on Mon, 12/31/2007 - 6:48am.

this entire column, but then I might be mistaken for someone else. Suffice it to say I agree with Epps' "observations".
to wit: "There is a decline in civility... the vicious accusations spewed by small people who think themselves large as they anonymously post on the blogs, forums, and bulletin boards of the Internet."
Amen Father.
(anyone recognize themselves? no? I didn't think you would,(please read my signature quotes)

Happy non-gendered, non-racial, non-political, non-specific begining a new, but not all-world, certainly not all-encompassing calendar holiday to you and yours.
(hope I didn't offend anyone)
p.s. if you find any spelling or grammatical errors here, you can all KMA!

O wad some Power the giftie gie us,To see oursels as ithers see us!
(R. Burns)
If we could see ourselves as others see us, we would vanish on the spot.
(E. M. Cioran)


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