I don't know if that guy is a legal citizen yet, but not one of his workers speaks english. You are right that situation begs for an investigation. I don't think he is bonded or insured either. That would be a good one for the I team when they get bored.

type of business dealings!!!

It could just as easily be a dog as a cat that they are investigating.

Probably Bernie - resume padding would be my first guess.

Second choice would be the lawyer for ineffective lawyering. That may be the reason for outside council.

I think Nuk is right. The only city employee who answers directly to the councilFOOLS is DUI bernie.

I have been very critical of Chief Murray. He loves TV cameras, he could care less about the average citizen, or the cart paths......but I don't think he is stupid enough to do anything illegal. His wife reitired over a year ago, so nobody is surprised by his retirement. He definitly has "napoleon syndrome" but he also cared enough about his employees to keep them safe from the black mold growing in the police station. That is more than I can say for my chief.

My bet is on DUI bernie, this city could run itself, we don't need him.

To the new council: please lets cut this cancer and move on. We could get a college intern for 20,000 a year who would do better.

Hmmm, we could easily replace him with a college intern and get quality work. It's time to cut the cancer and move on.

Word I hear is that he tried to get an immediate family member hired at the Fire Dept in PTC. I don't know if that's true, but I do know that he's been a poor City Manager all-around in my opinion and that the City could do a whole lot better. Between him and Tyrone's Amos, there are a couple of openings that could easily be big upgrades over the current people in those positions.

have a partial solution to your Town Mgr. problem. We offer to swap Tyrone Town Mgr. Barry Amos for your Town Mgr. and we will throw in our Planning Commission members Kathy Winton/Smartypants and Ginger Blackstone for nothing.

Okay now Nuk, who did you hear that from? And what immediate family member? Also, what things has he done poorly at as far as his job is concerned? I just love it when someone like you spouts off without anything to back it up.

Be nice, Kitty2U

Like I said, the ONLY EMPLOYEE in PTC government the Mayor/Council have authority over is the City Manager. This is a weak-Council, strong CityMgr government. The City Manager reports to them, everyone else reports to him. That's per the charter of the city.If it's any other "current employee" in the City, they(Council) don't need to investigate anything and the City Manager would handle it.

The immediate family member is his son. Go make an Open Records request at City Hall if you are skeptical.

As far as what he has done poorly? Let's see.....the first month on the job he goes to Council and tells them he can't do the job without help? That would be the first one. He stated it was simply too much work and he needed an assistant, despite the fact that there had never been a person solely in a position of assistant city manager ever before. Did the workload suddenly so dramatically increase in one month that much to justify another six figure salary being added to the payroll?

Next, the DUI. That would have been a really good time to quietly resign and move on elsewhere. Instead, by sticking around, all future relations with the Police Dept became wrecked because of his very bad judgment. Telling a cop who happens to be under you on the organizational chart "Do you not know who I am?" isn't great "management" either.

Nuk, I thought the Police Chief also answered to city council? If not, then who does he answer to? Not himself I hope!!!! Skyspy, I thought I would fall over laughing when I read your comment! I've always thought Police Chief Murry had "short mans syndrome" His actions sure do show hes got it! I am glad to hear he took care of the men and women of the police force. I have a family member close to many in that department and I had heard this before. My family member also knows many on the FPD. Is this who you are with?

Glad to help on a rainy day.

The police chief answers to the city manager. That is why I thought it was so bad when our drunk city manager tried to bully, and threaten our fine officers when he was clearly drunk. To top it off he poured his drink on the cops shoe.(which I think is "simple assault" and he should have charged with that, and assaulting a police officer as well) He should have not only been fired, but thrown out of town as well.
We could get a college intern to do the job of city manager for free, and I bet they would do a better job, and be able to do it themselves. This is a very small city that basically runs itself. We need to cut the cancer and move on. Special message to Mr. Haddix, Mr. Sturbaum, and the rest of the councilFOOLS: send the drunk and his assistant packing.

As mudcat pointed out it could also involve our inept liar(lawyer) for incompetent advice about the illegal tennis center loan.

It couldn't be Ted Meeker since the attorney is an independent contractor and not an employee. Of course, if Harold is totally lying in his statement all bets are off, but I can't think of why he would because that would really come back to bite him hard. If he lied about what happened in executive session it would also require all the rest of the council to go along with him and I sure don't see that happening.
So, when he says "it's not James Murray," there isn't any reason to doubt him.

To whom does he answer, you mean?

Good luck getting that answer from city hall! I tried once, simply calling and asking and was told to read the city ordnances!

It is not clear cut, although technically the Chief works for the Manager, but the manager can't interfere with his work!

It doesn't work to work for several council members at once, I don't think, so maybe he works for no one!

Unless one is on the third or fourth tier there is never the danger of anyone getting "fired."

They are threatened nicely to leave or face court.

Hummmm, and look whos leaving, Police Chief! "They are threatened nicely to leave or face court." My money is on the Police Chief who is under investigation. It's just a smoke screen to say it is not him and I'm sure in the end we'll all find out it's the Chief.

You don't really think that anybody fires anyone in PTC without Mayor and Council approval, do you.
Then they hire outsiders to do the dirty work!
Kinda like the army!

with perhaps a small bit of unfinished dirty work to clean up with the new Council. All we as citizens can do now is to wait and see how Mr Haddix and Mr Sturbaum will affect the other three members. I prefer not to speculate, but would suggest that more of Council deliberations be made public vice "executive session" that have become ever more prevalent.
A substantial swing in the Council will take place, and initially, it may be rough going for at least two members. I see Ms Plunkett being the "deciding factor" over the next two years which may place her in an optimal position to run for mayor in two years. We will just have to wait and see.

The 2 new guys got elected by opposing TDK and distancing themselves from the Mayor (and his buddy Boone). Plunkett will clearly be the swing vote on many issues and she is also in a position now to be mayor pro tem as well as take leadership on certain initiatives. She is a logical next Mayor since Harold won't run, Boone can't win and the city is not likely to elect someone without experience again (read Brown nightmare).