Are you implying that an armed citizen would have prevented this purse snatching form occurring?
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yes

Say someone had shot these guys as they ran away, don't you think they would have gone to jail, as they were running away do you think they posed some threat to the owner of the purse or do you think they would have stopped and meekly returned just because someone had a gun. They didn't stop for the cops why would they stop for anyone else?

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Kill-em where they stand.

Georgia 'shoot first' law takes effect

That's fine as far as it goes, but I kind of doubt that tikigod carries a purse, and just because someone's running down the street, I find it hard to believe you can just whip out your desert eagle and blow his head literally off his shoulders if he's not threatening you.

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Here it is:

To amend Article 2 of Chapter 3 of Title 16 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated

I'm not advocating the "taking out of joggers".

Do you remember the article about a woman being attacked by a bunch of kids? They hit her in the head with a rock and stole her purse?

It's those types of individuals you can freely shoot, repeatedly.

A .50 cal Desert Eagle is beautiful weapon if you like hunting F250's.

Me, I'll stick with my .45 +P's w/13 round clip.

You may or may not shoot, you'll have to decide that for yourself but I will no questions asked. Then I sue any surviving family members for the cost of the ammunition.

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im not so great with the legalese, but I read that amendment as saying I can not only kill someone in defense of my car(or even a Wii? "use of force in defense of property other than a habitation"), and kill their accomplices also?

I know you were saying farther down that I shouldn't brandish a gun, but it states that "A person who uses threats or force""has no duty to retreat"...

I love Georgia

Perhaps we, the citizens of Fayette County, should ask the Sheriff's department to have a community meeting of some kind on this issue.

I don't want to give you or hutch impression that what I am saying is absolutely correct. It's what I 'think' the law is saying.

As you and others, myself included, aren't legal experts, the ones that are, should provide legal guidance.

Lets ask and see what answers we get.

The only email address I found is for the County Commission Mailing Address: is "cchandler@fayettecountyga.gov". If you have one for the Sheriff's office directly you may wish to post it.

I wish they would hold a forum on self defense. Fayette county needs to become more active on its "war on crime" (ugghh i hate that phrase too). If we could get a candidate for Fayetteville mayor who supports passing a "Kennesaw Law" I would be standing near the courthouse waving signs for them.

Then we could put plaques on the Fayette County signs, under dial 911 for emergency, stating "This is a shoot to kill county." Hehehe

I stand by my first post, if a purse snatcher is running away from you with a purse I don't believe you can legally blow him away, where would be the threat, now if you both have hold of the strap I say go ahead and ventilate him, but if your standing there and a snatcher comes running by, where's the threat?

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By the fact of the presences of armed shoppers would deter criminals or should those criminals been shot?
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sorry it took me awhile to respond, had to go to lunch, read below

I would not have shot these people, I may have pulled a gun on them. I think it would be a wonderful idea if Fayetteville had a similar law as Kennesaw. If our once wonderful town was known as a place where good people had the means to fight back, then the majority of crime would filter around us.

Has anyone been to Point South lately? There is no difference between that crap hole and East Point/Lakewood/West End. Did you know that Clayton County had more murders in the first HALF of 2005 than the combined totals of Gwinnett and Cobb county for the ENTIRE YEAR of 2004? And people still don't want to protect themselves?!?!?!

Clayton County is dying and if they loose their school accreditation look out.

I like deterrence better but if someone was in a life or death situation and an armed citizen can take action so be it. I suspect no one will disagree.
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location really works against our county. It is so sad that we have to be located next to such a dump. Actually, if could have anything for Christmas it would be for our county to pick up and move. But that's just to much for a Christmas miracle to ask for.

In a life or death situation, I would hope there is someone armed around me. Even if someone was breaking into my car, I would be hard pressed not to shoot them in the leg, assuring that they can't get up and try that again. But I would probably be arrested for that, sad. People need to learn a lesson. As Sheriff Johnson used to say, "Criminals know where the Fayette County line is"> Sadly, I think they have forgot it. An armed citizenry would remind them of the line.

come to your senses. You are both right and you are both wrong. In a perfect world, only those who have both the mental capacity to know when to use a firearm and the fortitude to use it when necessary would actually have guns. Since we do not reside in an utopian society, we must rely upon our law enforcement.
A gun is merely a tool that like a hammer has its purpose, but in the wrong hands either can be deadly. We do not use hammers to intentionally temporarily make a fix to something, but rather we try to permanently make the repair. The same goes for a gun, should somebody have a need to brandish one, then they have the need to make a permanent fix. Shooting someone in the leg is a seriously flawed concept.
Our founding fathers knew this when they scripted the second amendment and moreover, I believe it was their intent to insure law abiding responsible citizens would be able to protect themselves. Further, I believe it was also their intent to do whatever possible to keep irresponsible and reckless individuals from gun ownership. Hence I am a proponent of gun registration.
That said, please do not break into my home or car because the consequences of those actions would not bode well for a long and happy life.

In the instance of using a gun, I would rather not kill someone. If someone was breaking into my house, I think it would be safe to assume that they had a weapon too, so shooting them in the leg seems appropriate. Just keep it aimed at the person, if they reach in their pocket, finish the job. A gun doesn't have to end a life.

Geez, all this shooting talk is starting to get depressing. I just wish we could all just get along

By the way, I think I have used a hammer to temporarily fix things before.

You must not have been taught the purpose of pointing a gun at someone. It is to kill them. You never point a gun at someone unless you intend to kill them, because that is what guns do.

Legs are very difficult to hit. Torso's are much larger and easier to hit.

Guns are serious weapons, not toys or target shooters. If you own a gun, I hope you will rethink the purpose of it and respect that purpose. It is not to deter.

Criminals are usually MEAN and often mentally or chemically altered. You would be long dead before someone breaking into your house said - 'ow, man! you shot me in the leg!'.

(yes, I own a gun and if I ever had to use it, the perp would not have anything to say about it. Ever.)

i think i can take care of myself. i feel like i will make the right decision in the heat of the moment.

I just checked, I'm not missing any of my senses.
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in that county to the east, Fayette County will spend more and more in resources of all kinds in an attempt to keep its quality image. I remember that statement from Sheriff Johnson. Those were the days.
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Sure, everyone should be walking around in the Pavilion, or anywhere, with loaded guns or even AK-47s in their coats!

That way when you see a guy running down the parking lot you you can simply mow him down! Two kids playing wouldn't have a chance!

The other six people you hit are simply residuals.

I'll bet we could find reason to shoot several times a day at the mall if we just looked! That is assuming we weren't knocked down and had our gun stolen---since everyone there would have one!

This world is populated with dunces!

you are naive. I can name five friends off the top of my head that carry a gun at all times. three are 24-27 years old, the other two are 35-50. Im 24, and soon I will be carrying also. Point is, there are more people armed than you think there are. Are they shooting recklessly into a crowd? No. Would I have shot this purse snatcher, no. But I would have attempted to stop him with a gun, not shoot it, show it, rather that sit around and be helpless.
Only sheep think the police can protect them from violent crime. How often is a Police officer around you? Not often. I feel uncomfortable with the idea that I am at the mercy of the criminal. The majority of the time, the police can only help you once the crime has already been committed.

Carrying AK-47 and mowing down little kids? You sound like the typical sheep.

You could actually end up in more trouble for displaying a firearm in public, brandishing, then you could if you just shot the person breaking the law.

If you're considering a CWP then do a couple of things first.

1. Take and keep taking shooting classes from a certified instructor.

2. Make it a point to speak with local law enforcement Chief and/or Sheriff, not just the cop on the street, and get advice from them as to what you are and what you are NOT allowed to do.

The reason I don't have a carry permit now is cause I just haven't had time to do those things. When I finally get one, I plan on taking it extremely seriously, its a huge responsibility that I don't want at this moment. In all likelihood, I wouldn't pull it on someone snatching a purse. If you are correct about getting in more trouble for brandishing the gun, ill keep it concealed unless I really need to use it.

Now I have kept a gun on my side in public before, in Point South to be specific, and I never got in trouble for it. I guess you are referring to actually pointing it at someone though.

I like the way you think not again. If we would punish criminals the way some countries do I think most of them would find it easier to get a job.

It's all the same incident. After the suspect was caught, the Deputies brought him back to Walmart (which is where it actually occurred) for the victim & witnesses to identify him as the purse snatcher.

There were several witnesses who all called 911 and gave varying degrees of information. The vehicle and suspect descriptions were pretty much on target (which isn't always the case).

What this story doesn't mention is that 1)a fireman from the Pavilion station pursued the subject on foot (but lost him... A for effort, though!), and that 2)one of the deputies was injured while chasing the suspects on foot (after they crashed they both bailed out of the car... one was caught immediately, the other ran into the woods and was apprehended pretty quickly).

This was another good example of FPD and FCSO working together so very well. Both agencies were very quick to respond, and got the job done. Congrats!

I saw that one too, and I believe the perpetrator was nabbed in the parking lot.

Good job by our law enforcement.

That once in a while a bunch of Good Samaritans could get their hands on the perps BEFORE the cops get there.

You know, just give the punk a little bit of business before they haul 'em off to the pokey.

and the police can have what's left.

The only downside being most people with a gun need to be sure what's behind the target. There's no point in being the hero that shot an innocent.

That being said, I'd love to see a headline, "Purse snatcher found Dead".

"When Sheriffs department deputies arrived on the scene the suspect was found hanging from a tree from an apparent suicide."

"All the witnesses, most driving F150's, reported that the suspect climbed the tree and then hanged himself in an apparent attempt to spare the county taxpayers the expense of a trial."

"The suspects mother commented that her son was a good boy and wouldn't have wanted to burden the taxpayers of his community with any unreasonable expenses of a trial."

"The suspects father was not immediately notified as his identity is an absolute mystery to the mother."

"The Fayette County Sheriff's department said that the suspects body will be left on display as a deterrent to other would-be purse snatchers."

That's a classic! LOL!!!

I'm glad you saw threw the intended satire.

P.S. I disagree with your assessment of Main Stream's avatar.

I wish you and yours a "0100110101100101011100
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00100110100101110011011
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11001100100001".

Won't saying something like that cause your liberal media card to be revoked?

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I could then argue the county would be liable for his injuries since he would be a "prisoner." That would mean spending county bucks to benefit the perp, so does that qualify as liberal?

See I can play *both* sides, both liberal and conservative.

Merry Christmas y'all!

Great, The poor lady was so distraught, out buying Christmas gifts for her kids just to have it all taken away by that low life garbage. It made me sick to my stomach. Glad to hear he was caught. Be careful though there are plenty more out there.