Are women insane?

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Some time back, I was counseling with a gentleman who was having troubles with the lady in his life. In exasperation, he finally said, “They are insane!”

“Who is insane?” I inquired.

“Women,” he replied. “All women are insane.”

A few weeks ago, I was talking with another man who found his relationship with a certain female confusing. I said, “Well, one person I talked to said that it was his opinion that all women are insane.”

He pondered a moment and said, “I think I agree with that.”

“Really!” I replied. “So you think that men should treat all women as though they are mentally ill?”

“Probably,” he mused.

As we were standing outside the church on a Sunday morning, I decided to get a few opinions from the gentler sex. The first person I approached was a young mom with three children, two of whom are teenagers. After I explained the conversations that occurred, I asked if she thought the men had a valid point.

“They probably do,” she answered.

Surprised, I asked, “So you think that men would be better off if they just assumed that women were insane and acted as such?”

“Yep, probably.”

My next contact was with a mother of four small children. Again, I explained the situation and asked the lady’s thoughts.

“It’s probably true from a man’s point of view. I always want my husband to tell me what I want to hear and to do what I want him to do. I can see how he might think that’s crazy.”

Now, let me just state for the record that both the man with me, and I, were very surprised by the way these conversations were going. I’ve read “Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus: The Classic Guide for Understanding the Opposite Sex,” by John Gray, so I’ve understood for years that we come from different places and see things from a different perspective, but two women saying that the two men had a valid point left me — confused.

In essence, the two women were saying that the two men were — gasp! — right. Men are not accustomed to be being told they are right, especially by the women in their lives.

So, we decided to approach a professional, a lady who has served as a registered nurse for a number of years. When told what had been proposed, she said, “Oh, I don’t believe that at all! I don’t think that women are insane. I know I’m not insane.”

So, I asked her, “Do you think that most insane people know that they are insane?”

“Probably not,” she said.

“So,” I proffered, “you could actually be insane and not be aware of it, couldn’t you?”

I received “the look” that all women, from the day of their birth, are able to give men to chill their blood, and then she went into the church.

A few days later, I approached a college student, a young lady I have known all her life. I told her all about this and, looking for a more modern, progressive voice, I asked her if women were insane.

Without hesitation, she replied, “Oh, absolutely!”

So, do I think that all women are insane? Well, it certainly would explain a great many mysterious ways that have baffled men from the beginning of time.

All I can say is that, based on my limited survey, 100 percent of men surveyed say, “Yes”; 75 percent of women polled say, “Probably” or “Absolutely”; and 25 percent of women polled say, “No,” but they could be insane and not know it.

Who am I to argue with the polls? I’m not crazy.

[Father David Epps, a provincial auxiliary bishop serving the Mid-South Diocese, is the founding pastor of Christ the King Church, 4881 Hwy. 34 E., Sharpsburg, GA 30277. He is also the vicar of Christ the King Church in Champaign, IL. He may be contacted at frepps@ctkcec.org. The church has a website at www.ctkcec.org.]

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Submitted by pentapenguin on Tue, 12/18/2007 - 1:03am.

I don't know why some people are jumping on Father Epps. He's a great guy, and like some of his columns, this one has a humorous take on life. This last line proves it:

Who am I to argue with the polls? I’m not crazy.

If that doesn't show that this column is a joke, I don't know what does. Come on! Smile a bit! Smiling


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 7:14pm.

She married me!

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by muddle on Sat, 12/15/2007 - 9:17pm.

Here's one man with 37 years of experience with one woman--since childhood--and who votes no.

Neither my wife nor my two grown daughters are insane. My two granddaughters show great promise of sanity.

One of my two best philosophy students ever is now working on her Ph.D at Notre Dame. She isn't insane, either.

Charity dictates that I interpret your piece as being written tongue-in-cheek, so that it is more about the male inability to decipher female reasoning than it is about female dysfunction.

But even that doesn't sit well with me. Learn to know and love a woman in the way that I have; reach a point where you literally have trouble discerning where you end and she begins, and the whole thing is a non-starter.

________________

My Opie impression: circa 1963.


Submitted by susieq on Sat, 12/15/2007 - 6:42pm.

Nice article. I agree that women would have to be insane to do all that they do (caregiver), take all the crap from men and children (sounding board), and accept the worst piece of chicken left on the platter at dinner.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Sat, 12/15/2007 - 8:00pm.

I read the Epps article too and thought it was insensitive. I know he goes by 'Father Epps' and does this mean he is not married because of his ties to the church? Just wondering why he would write such an idiotic article - maybe he does not interact with women on a daily, intimate level, like a husband and wife would? It sounds as though he doesn't understand women well and thought this was a humorous way to portray women in general, as being insane. I'm trying to understand his psyche a bit and I don't get it. If he is married, his wife must be insane by now.


Submitted by Bonkers on Sun, 12/16/2007 - 1:28am.

I think Father Oops was just suggesting that women are different and they want to be!
You probably will get an answer from him about : Viva la differance!

Submitted by skyspy on Sat, 12/15/2007 - 9:40pm.

This is standard fare for him. He is his own favorite topic. He serves as a constant reminder of why NOT to go to church.

A famous person, could have been an author, or philosopher, I'm not sure so for now I will attribute this quote to anonymous:

"Human beings reek of arrogance, and are fraught with ignorance"

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 6:38am.

"This is standard fare for him. He is his own favorite topic." -- No more so than Rick R, Sallie S, Rhonda R, etc. Smiling

I've never attended his church, but I can say that he's friendly and caring (from reading his columns and from someone who's talked with him before).

Did you read "In the Zone," a column about his wife? I think it's funny, and I laughed at this column. The nurse who gave him "the look" is probably his wife (see
"My Wife Believes in Turtles"
). Smiling

Let's face it: women can act irrationally (emotionally) at times, and some do that a lot more than others.

An example: Does this dress make me look fat? Try answering that one with the unvarnished truth! Laughing out loud

"He serves as a constant reminder of why NOT to go to church." -- OUCH! Have you ever met him? You could stop by his church and say "hi." You might be surprised to find out that he's not so bad for a former marine, police chaplain, pastor, father, and husband. You might even like him! Smiling

Merry Christmas!

But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today, in the town of David, a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord [the Messiah, the Anointed One]."


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 7:26pm.

Early in our Iraqi exploits (cerca early 2004) when there were few folks who dared voice opposition to our pre-emptive strike in Iraq, Father Epps wrote what I felt was his worst column ever. He used his entire column to berate the French for not supporting our war effort in Iraq. He spoke of the French women needing to learn how to shave, pouring French wine out, the French language sounding like pigs squealing (wee wee wee). I was beside myself.

1. I too, having spent many a night in the region, had serious doubts about the "evidence" Americans were presented with.

2. I was shocked that a man of the cloth would use his limited public forum to attack anyone.

3. My good friends and neighbors, The Marteens, were French. Their daughter was my daughter's best friend. They were wonderful people who were hurt by the ignorant "freedom fries" attitude that festered here in the South.

Well, not long after that column was printed, I saw Father Epps as we both shopped in KMart. As we approached eachother, I tried not to scowl, but i was truly not happy with him. Out of nowhere came this: " Hey guy! How ya' doin' tonight?" It was so incredibly sincere. He meant every bit of it. he wanted to know how I was. It was one of the warmest greetings from a stranger that I can ever remember. It changed my opinion of him instantly because i now understood him a bit better. We all have mulligans every now and then. And I'm much more likely to give Father a pass on this one. Besides, if you see my entry above, you'll know that my wife is insane. Smiling

Cheers,

Kevin "Hack" King


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Submitted by hutch866 on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 7:44pm.

After meeting your wife, I wouldn't question her sanity, just her judgment.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


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Submitted by AF A-10 on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 10:23pm.

One shot. one Kill. Right between my eyes! Smiling Have a good week my friend!

Kevin "Hack" King


Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 6:00pm.

That is my impression of him. He does take time for our local cops that is a positive thing.

I think muddle is right, this is his attempt at humor.

I figured you or muddle, or that little search engine bad_ptc would be able to help me out with the famous quote.

Who wrote this: "Humans reek of arrogance and are fraught with ignorance"? I can't remember where I read this, so I'll attribute it to anonymous for now.

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 7:53pm.

"Homo sapiens is not wise by virtue of his self-appointed name; to me the species reeks of arrogance fraught with ignorance." (Quoted in The Scientific 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Scientists, Past and Present)

Contemporary biologist Lynn Margulis is "a self-confessed misanthrope, a woman to whom the human species 'reeks of arrogance fraught with ignorance.' All religion is delusional. Human flesh is not sacred. She can barely disguise her contempt for some of her critics," such as Stephen J. Gould and Richard Dawkins (The New York Times).

She married and divorced Carl Sagan, completed her Ph.D. in genetics at the University of California at Berkeley, is an outspoken advocate of population control and 9/11 conspiracy theories (similar to Rosie), and is a proponent and co-developer of the modern version of the Gaia hypothesis (a kind of neo-Pagan New-Age religion), based on an idea developed by the British atmospheric scientist James Lovelock.

Lovelock's personification / deification of Earth, or Gaia (the ancient Greek goddess of the Earth), draws New-Agers and goddess worshipers and ecologists / environmentalists, but Margulis denies the teleological implications (a belief that all things have a predetermined purpose) of the Gaia hypothesis.

Margulis's symbiogenetic theory of cell evolution, which concludes that living organisms are profoundly connected, denies random mutation.

Margulis holds a negative view of Neo-Darwinism (such as proposed by Richard Dawkins), which she "believes that history will ultimately judge the theory as 'a minor twentieth-century religious sect within the sprawling religious persuasion of Anglo-Saxon Biology.'" (She does have keen insight into this modern religion. Eye-wink )

"Neo-Darwinism, which insists on (the slow accrual of mutations), is a complete funk."


Submitted by Nitpickers on Mon, 12/17/2007 - 8:01am.

denise: But he was a jar-head, he is from the Tennessee Mountains, and he likes fancy gowns an adornments!
He has built his own JOBS from floating around from one religion to another to find gold and fame.
He is lucky to have a wife who pays the bills!

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Submitted by muddle on Sun, 12/16/2007 - 9:00am.

As I say in my own comment, a charitable interpretation reads him as attempting humor about the male inability to comprehend female reasoning. I do think it is something like this that is intended, and, properly executed, the point might be funny rather than offensive.

A perfect example: Read Mark Twain's "Diary of Adam and Eve" where Adam's entries in his diary include complaints about this "new creature." For instance, he resents her for taking over his job of naming the animals, which had been assigned him by God. She points to one creature and says, "That's a duck." He says, "Why do you call it a 'duck'"? She replies, "Because it looks like a duck!"
And she puts signs up everywhere: "Keep Off the Grass," "Niagara Falls," etc. It ends with Adam at Eve's grave and the epitaph: "Wherever Eve was there was Eden." Great stuff there!

The big difference between you and me is that you don't go to church and are cheerful about it, whereas I don't go to church but wish I did. I just need to find a place where my cynicism will not be honed to a fine point.

________________

My Opie impression: circa 1963.


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Submitted by BPR on Sun, 12/16/2007 - 9:15am.

I love the things you write - I know you believe in God, why don't you go to church? Has the church hurt you? I just care- Hey, you and sky( he doesn't go to church) I like you both alot. I think the best of both of you. As I have said before, I think you two are my favorite on here - I see you, I know you even if you think I don't by what you write. The same with Sky- he is great! I said that like Tony the Tiger- and I mean it. Why don't the both of you go to church?

Like I have said before= the biggest mess up is me- granted I lived a shelted life, but there are alot of things I have done and still do, not because I want to because I am human-(and not God) HONESTLY, I feel like I am the biggest mess up- I NEED GOD- I need Him to help me through life- things I don't ;understand, to make it through the hard times.

My hardest thing- my sister died around Thanksgiving- Christmas aroundn the corner, I really really get down and then my Mom died 4 months later- it's hard- but with God He give me HOPE.

I"m sorry don't take this the wrong way- I just care about the both of you. I really do.

Merry Christmas from someone who cares..


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Submitted by muddle on Sun, 12/16/2007 - 9:31am.

Thanks.

Let's just say that I am presently "between churches." It's complicated, but much of it is summed up in two books:

Gordon Conwell theologian David Wells wrote a book titled No Place for Truth, in which he critiques the contemporary church's repackaging and marketing Christianity as a "therapeutic gospel" so that Jesus has roughly the same function as Prozac. Few churches have any idea of what it would mean to cultivate the "Christian Mind"--helping people to understand the full intellectual and practical implications of a Christian worldview.

Wheaton historian Mark Noll wrote, The Scandal of the Evangelical Mind with its memorable opening line: "The scandal of the evangelical mind is that there is not much of an evangelical mind." The book laments the pervasive anti-intellectualism among evangelicals. Atheist CHristopher Hitchens would have us all believe that religious belief is largely a function of ignorance. Sometimes, sitting in Sunday School classes and hearing people talk, I am tempted to believe him.

"Liberal" religion is not an option for me. Liberal theologians thrive in conditions where people do not ask probing questions that call for crisp clarity. If, as Bultmann suggested, Christian faith in Christ's resurrection is reducible to something like "hope springs eternal in the human heart," then Christianity is a load of crap. (Paul wrote that if Christ be not raised then we Christians are of all people the most to be pitied and our faith is futile.)

I'll stop here. But I think I still have a blog or two in here somewhere that go into some detail.

But thanks for the concern.

________________

My Opie impression: circa 1963.


Submitted by lilly on Sun, 12/16/2007 - 8:40am.

His commments were alot Sensitive to women- it kinda made us sound stupid. I don't know I go to church- not his (we just moved finally) maybe Father is Catholic ( and not married) probably all the women won't come to church today. Others go by Father, but I don't know if they are allowed to marry in what their faith teaches.

Sky just know all faith in God does not do this- where I have attended church not once someone made jokes about one or the other.
WE are who we are because that's what God made us. Don't give up on church there are some of us that are nice folks, ( not perfect) but nice and try to be sensitive.

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