Illegal hunting still happening on Ebenezer Church Rd.; where is the law?

Tue, 12/11/2007 - 5:34pm
By: Letters to the ...

For more than a year now I have been begging the marshal’s office and the Sheriff’s Department to enforce Ordinance No. 94-01 adopted on Feb. 24, 1994.

This is a law that was enacted when a 14-year-old boy was killed in the woods by his home. He was mistaken for a deer and shot by an idiot with a high-powered rifle.

We have one of these in our neighborhood. He refuses to abide by this law even after being cited by the state game warden for shooting a deer out of season.

The law against shooting a high-powered rifle on fewer than 25 acres is a county law, [but] he wasn’t cited. This man continues to shoot his high-powered rifle on five acres of land. This endangers anyone living a mile away since these bullets can travel a long distance, and are capable of going through walls to kill someone.

Last year in Douglas County a young woman was shot by a stray bullet; she died at her desk.

Must we have another tragedy here in Fayette County before the laws on the books are enforced? How many times must a property owner call the marshal’s office, and the sheriff’s office before this man is arrested and made to obey the law? Is it too much to ask to just be safe in your home and not have to worry about someone shooting deer in an area where it is prohibited?

[Two weekends ago] this man shot at a deer about 6 a.m.; two shots were fired before daylight. This past Sunday he was out firing away during the daytime; eight shots were fired.

This man could be cited for disturbing the peace (that is on the books, too, under the noise control ordinance) and then cited for breaking the law by firing a high-powered rifle on five acres of land.

Mr. Saul is a hunter, and each and every night a herd of deer is across the road from us. Should he want to break the law, he certainly could, and would love to shoot a deer that near to home. However, he respects his neighbors, and respects the law; therefore he travels 125 miles to hunt on thousands of acres that have been designated by the state of Georgia for hunters.

We have lived in this county since the 1960s and I would beg for each and every law-abiding citizen to call the sheriff’s office and the marshal’s office and demand that these laws on the books be enforced and not just a good old boy warning be issued.

We don’t want another tragedy to happen in this county; we need laws to be enforced and a hefty fine each and every time a law is broken. When it hits the wallet, then I am sure it will stop.

P.S. A neighbor was shooting a high-powered gun across the road from me. On Wednesday, the buzzards have found a dead deer with a bullet hole in the carcass no more than 25 feet from a very busy Ebenezer Church Road and about 200 feet from my front door.

What does it take to wake someone up to the danger that everyone is in as long as this man continues to shoot on five acres of land, 25 feet from the road?

James B. Saul and LeGay Saul

Fayette County, Ga.

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Submitted by icanbeyourworst... on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 8:53pm.

ok you say illegal hunting is going on and he has been arrested? i think id call you a liar and a hag the police has been out there several times due to the fact you keep calling. just to let you know they have offically decided not to care what you say the person you are writing about happens to be my father i have been there several times when the police showed up because of you legay you cant keep your mouth shut for five minutes to find out the truth and you refer to code enforcement yes he has 5 acres but he has permission from the person that owns the 25 acres around his property to hunt any time he pleases and just to let you know he hunts for food not just shooting for fun he has mouths to feed times are hard and deer meat only costs a bullet he is a very safe hunter he has been hunting almost as long as you've been nagging people and as for the shots you hear all the time as you say if its not all in your empty head there is a target range about 200 yards through the woods in front of your house so if you want to complain let them know they are on davis road

Submitted by Nitpickers on Thu, 12/13/2007 - 7:34am.

Can I get some of that meat for my freezer? Good on the grill!
I'll even come and do the kill myself.
Can I kill those deer who eat in my lawn and flowers many times (if they have horns) or not?
Or is it just this guy who can do it?
I'll need help hanging and bleeding and gutting the deer if he weighs over 75#. Maybe the "hunter" would help me and I could help him?
I have my own slaughter knife and sticker.
Can we leave the guts and head lying there in the woods?
I'm surely interested.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:29pm.

The backwards hunter and his spawn are laughing because you let them hunt in middle of the night.!?

This calls for the SWAT team. Take no prisoners, just put a stop to the madness.

Deep, deep in my little, glass-less-than-half-empty skyspy heart I want to believe that it is NOT LEGAL TO HUNT AT NIGHT IN FAYETTE COUNTY.!? Please tell me it is not legal(?) or I'll vote for the old dude that has been retired for 12yrs. I crap you not! Either that or I want Sheriff Joe here.

Submitted by tistheseason on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:52pm.

You must have some big steel ones to threaten the sheriff and the Landsharks as you do. As for your comment, do you not know that if they actually knew who you were and read your comment you could be charged for a threat like that or just harass you as you have done him but in a way you would not like.
I do not understand how all of you can slam someone like you have been doing when I guarantee most of you do not even know the so-called hunter and his so-called spawn.
I seem to remember this is Christmas and not the time to harass and threaten people with intimidation as you have done.
I have read all these comments and it sounds to me like someone defending their father and not someone who deserves to be disrespected so harshly.
If there is shooting going on illegally then let the law handle it and stop all the anger everyone sees here.
This is the time to help others not attack them, if he is hunting to feed his family why hasn't anyone even thought that they may need someones help not all this anger.
To me it just seems this is getting out of hand, lets remember what time of the year it is and stop this nonsense.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:59pm.

Just what was the threat here, not to vote for him, can they really arrest you for that? Good old canbeworst was the one spewing the hate, calling the woman a hag, maybe thats all right with you.

I yam what I yam....Popeye


Submitted by tistheseason on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:08pm.

It all comes down to harassment no matter who is saying what to whom. The statements from canbeworst are from a child defending his parent and even though they were hateful it's understandable from them not from adults to a child by saying something about an "umbrella policy".
I just wish everyone would stop all this hatred and leave this alone. We need to be helpful to one another not harmful.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:16pm.

Shooting someone who is driving by on Ebenezer Church Road is harmful, even if it is an accident.

No matter how sorry these people would be after it would not bring back a life.

Too many people have told the same story about that road and neighborhood. If it was one person, I would tend not to believe it.....but.....

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:56pm.

My "threat" was to vote for the old guy running for sheriff, who has been retired for 12yrs. Yeah, I bet they are scared.

Ps: I am friends with some of the deputies, they do know who I am.

Happy Holidays

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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:00pm.

I'd help you out with those idiots, but I've kind of got my hands full right now.

You can handle it.

Cheers... as Hack would say. Smiling


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:05pm.

I understand.

I was having fun with this letter earlier today. I put a smile on some people.

You are doing good. For someone who doesn't live in PTC, you understand what is going on and feel our pain. Thanks.

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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:08pm.

We all have a vested interest in each of our respected communities. PTC is as much of my neighborhood as it is yours. We are that much intermingled. I just don't get to vote in yours. Sad

But I am looking forward to running my Segway up and down your cart paths. Smiling


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:07pm.

Dang, I thought I was a bad advertisement for public schools, wow...

So many issues to address:

1) if he "hunts" for "food" why are the neighbors finding dead deer everywhere???

2) You can't shoot towards a road

2b) I'm pretty sure you aren't supposed to "hunt" after dark either, no matter where you are. If only we could buy you some common sense....

3) Take a NRA safety class, and get load of "wake the heck up" while you are at it.

4) Do you have an umbrella policy for your home?? Good question to ask and find out the answer to........because if you or your "father" hit someone I love you will need one.

Submitted by icanbeyourworst... on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:23pm.

Unfortunately, your threats and so-called intimidation are not working here so get a life!
I seem to remember no one ever stated that there were dead deer everywhere, just a mention of one found so get your stories straight.
I don't believe that he hunts after dark since he has a job, unlike you, since you have more time on your hands to write this crap.
As far as you trying to scare myself or my father it isn't working, if you have a problem you know who we are come talk to us in person instead of hiding behind your computer. We haven't done anything wrong so we have no reason to hide.
The only person that seems to need a class is you, find a class that will teach you something other than harrassment.
Maybe one day you'll get a life and leave people like us alone that do nothing to anyone, hunt only to feed our family, and actually have a job where we don't have all the time you do to harass others.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:38pm.

People have been complaining about this "problem" for awhile now online. I don't know how you finally caught on....but, we have all heard this story many times. It isn't just the people above who wrote a letter to the editor.

Check with the DNR, because when people find your "food" they have been turning in the carcasses to the DNR. Usually when they find them they aren't fit for anyone to eat. Wake up.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:34pm.

How is sky harassing you, if it bothers you don't read it. If your father has a job how can he hunt during the day? Is it you hunting at night? By the way, your names have not been printed so how would Sky know who you are?

I yam what I yam....Popeye


Submitted by blabbermouth on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 5:50pm.

I can truthfully say ‘I feel your pain’. Hopefully somebody in Fayette County will get off their rear end and put a stop to the gun play. Coweta County is just as bad.

I live in a small subdivision just outside the city limits of Senoia. The houses are close together and the lots are one acre and some are less. About ten years ago a family of four migrated from Clayton County to my neighborhood, and yes they were white (like it makes any difference). They didn’t get the truck unloaded good until the adult male and all the white trash he could drag in with guns began shooting. They would shoot any time they took a notion. Day or night, it didn’t matter to them in the least. Well, one day I noticed a garbage truck parked in front of their house and a man got out with several bags of ice and headed out back with it. Sure enough, somebody over there had killed a deer and the garbage man was icing it down. This wasn’t the first or only deer they shot and butchered in their back yard. I called DNR several times, which was a waste of time. I called the Coweta County Sheriffs Office more times than I care to remember which was another waste of time. I called the Sheriff’s Department one day because of the gun play and a deputy showed up at my house. After telling the deputy about the problem of gunshots, he glanced at the house, then he looked at me, and I swear I couldn’t make this up if I tried, and said “don’t ‘pear ta be nobody home over there”. Coweta County Code Enforcement was definitely no help even though one of the teenage boys admitted to the code officer that yes, he had been shooting a rifle at a snake in the back yard. No warning, no citation issued, so the shooting continued, until after seven long years, the house was foreclosed on and they had to go.

I could go on and on about the antics that came from that house during those seven long years, but remembering it has made me mad all over again.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 8:20pm.

Let's hope Fayette County is smarter. This jerk off "hunter" needs to go.

The bad people get away with everything.

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:06am.

Can't we get the SWAT team to take out this drunk deer hunter thug before he kills someone?? He probably can't read or write, so no big loss to the community.

Note to self: don't drive down Ebenezer Church road when it's dark outside.

Special note to ex-mother-inlaw: They are giving away free handbags with matching shoes on Ebenezer Church road, but you have to go between 12am and 6am.

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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:34am.

Smiling


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 11:46am.

Good to hear from you. I hope you are outside in the sun.

I found a book yesterday that will speed your recovery.

The Underachiever's Manifesto: The Guide to Accomplishing Little and Feeling Great. Its Written by Ray Bennett and I got it at Restoration Hardware. It is hilarious.

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 10:21am.

You need to be nice, tis the season. LOL!


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Submitted by mrs fran sheldon on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 2:44pm.

Good to be back, folks.

Fondly,

Mrs. Fran Sheldon

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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 11:43am.

I couldn't help it the devil made me. I'll try to behave the rest of the day.

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 12:10pm.

Made me laugh. I think we all have someone that perhaps we don't remember with the kindest thoughts. DO try to behave.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:10am.

Is there a special place in your heart for her??????? LOL
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Submitted by AF A-10 on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:48am.

Thanks for the morning smile. That was funny!!
Unfortunately the topic isn't. It's a shame that someone would be so lacking of respect for the safety of their neighbors. I really hope that law enforcement acts before they have to respond to a tragedy.

Kevin "Hack" King


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:15am.

I couldn't help it the devil made me do it.

This should be another convertible day.

I bought the best book yesterday at Restoration Hardware:

The Underachiever's Manifesto: The Guide to Accomplishing Little and Feeling Great

This book is hilarious.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:18am.

Did the "agency" give you a few hours off today to drive that convertible?

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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:22am.

As long as I don't answer the phone, I'm off. If it is a number I don't know, I don't answer. They have started to use their cell phones to order people in.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:27am.

Management is actually doing that. How low (chuckle).
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Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 9:29am.

I guess I better get off of here and get on with being an underachiever.

Have a good day.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 11:20pm.

No one wants to enforce basic safety laws when it comes to backwards rednecks with guns.

Even if the sheriff does catch him, with the kind of judges and the DA we have not much will happen. They would haul him off, have a bail hearing. Scotty will say he is misunderstood, then the judge will let him go with a small fine. Then in a show of peace they would have a group hug with the scum and his pony-tail LIER, and they will all dance in a circle and wet their pants.

Thats how it works, we aren't Fayettenam anymore.

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Submitted by Main Stream on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 11:55pm.

"Then in a show of peace they would have a group hug with the scum and his pony-tail LIER, and they will all dance in a circle and wet their pants."

I know it's not a funny situation, but your comment made me laugh.

I was over in the Chadsworth subdivision on Saturday and heard 3 distinct gunshots. Is this problem also moving to the inner suburbs of PTC now? My mother-in-law lives down in Williamson, surrounded by woods and just a few other houses. At dusk, when we're sitting on the porch digesting our supper, we can hear the hunters shooting, not too far away from her house. I hate going down there, or into the rural areas, because of the idiots with guns. You're right, it will take a tragedy, with some innocent being shot in the head, mistaken for a hunter's trophy, to wake up the officials and really do something about this insanity!


Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 12/12/2007 - 7:58am.

In my neighborhood near a golf course we have the jerk we call "drunk squirrel shooter man". He is drunk most of the time and he likes to shoot squirrels and stray cats in his backyard which also happens to be a golf course with more homes on the other side of it.

It has been reported to the police and sheriffs dept. They did actually try to catch him in the act. They had to catch him in action, because of course the neighbors on either side of him are very afraid.

We haven't heard from him for about 5 months now, hopefully he has died from alcohol poisoning. I know that's cold, but at least he wouldn't endanger anymore people. How's that for some bad karma??

Umm, let me tweak that a little.....ummm, maybe twinkletoe the summer fairy of love sprinkled him with thoughtfulness, and common sense. Uh, yeah, that's much better.

Happy Holidays Main Stream

Submitted by JJsMom on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 6:50pm.

Let them know what is going on - they may be able to get you some help. Illegal hunters are not only dangerous but give other hunters who abide by the laws a bad name. I think the Sheriff's Office does a great job with all they are facing with the crime wave knocking at our door-they may be stretched thin. I hope you have resolution to this dangerous problem and I would feel the same way if it were in my neighborhood. That road isn't rural anymore.

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