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Steve Brown and TDK ... what he doesn't want you to remember

Steve Brown was SO opposed to TDK that he voted several times to FUND it! That was when he was mayor of PTC for four years.

Now of course, he's joined every other public official who's backpedaled on TDK. But it took voting Steve Brown out of office for the City Council to STOP THE PROJECT!!!

Brown could've stopped TDK all along, yet he didn't. And don't say he didn't know about the potential for Coweta development. He bragged that it was going to happen.

Steve Brown unfortunately is a flip-flopper on TDK and other issues. Can we trust him not to flip-flop on us in the legislature?

Don't get me started on his lack of political capital/clout with state departments, etc. Listen now and believe me later, Steve Brown won't get anything remotely important done for the city if he's elected. His shouts and outcries will be ignored.

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Who is lying: Ramsey supporters or the_assassin?

Submitted by johenry on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 9:09pm.

Now wait just a minute, we're not stupid enough to believe you. Matt Ramsey financial supporter former mayor Bob Lenox directly defies your claims the_assassin.

Ramsey supporter Bob Lenox, who gave us TDK, the development authority corruption and the police station on the dump, wrote his comments confirming Steve Brown was secretly derailing TDK in October 2005. Lenox's choice for mayor, Harold Logsdon (Ramsey supporter), took office January 2006.

Ramsey supporter Bob Lenox also said "Greg Dunn (pro-TDK), Fayette County Commission chairman, or any member of the Fayette County Commission. Call Ken Steele(Ramsey supporter and pro-TDK), mayor of Fayetteville, or any member of his council. Call Mitch Seabaugh (Ramsey supporter and pro-TDK), our state senator at the time. Call Lynn Westmoreland (Ramsey supporter and pro-TDK), then our state representative, now our representative to the U.S. Congress. Call the chairman or any member of the Coweta County Commission (Ramsey supporters and pro-TDK)."

Wow oh wow! That's a lot of Matt Ramsey supporters who want TDK built and say Steve Brown was killing the thing behind the scenes.

Read Ramsey supporter Bob Lenox's letter from the Citizen archives below and see for yourself.

The Citizen, October 12, 2005
Lenox: Brown has often impeded road projects

It was pretty obvious in reading Mayor Brown’s letter about TDK Boulevard last week that he had little or no knowledge about the history of this project. I particularly liked the part where he said some previous council should have built the road so he wouldn’t have to worry about it. Here is an historical timeline and the salient facts about this road:

From 1997 through 2000 no new roads were allowed to be built in the Atlanta metro region as a result of a court order in an environmental clean air lawsuit. This meant no widening of Ga. Highway 54 or Ga. Highway 74, and no building of TDK Boulevard.

When the court order was overturned in 2000 the city immediately began work on TDK with the goal of building it before the widening of Hwy. 54 West.

Peachtree City agreed with Coweta County to pay for the design and engineering of the entire road because it was cost-effective to do so, it was going to save a lot of time, and it gave us control over the project.

The original design met then existing FAA regulations and with prompt action by the city the road could have been built to these original plans.

When Steve Brown took office on Jan. 1, 2002, the design and engineering work was virtually complete, all the necessary right-of-way was either in hand or committed to the city at no cost, the city had the necessary financial resources to build the road, and it was estimated that the road could be completed and opened to traffic by July 1, 2003.

For the next two years Steve Brown personally stonewalled this project. You don’t have to take my word for this. Pick up your telephone and call Greg Dunn, Fayette County Commission chairman, or any member of the Fayette County Commission. Call Ken Steele, mayor of Fayetteville, or any member of his council. Call Mitch Seabaugh, our state senator at the time. Call Lynn Westmoreland, then our state representative, now our representative to the U.S. Congress. Call the chairman or any member of the Coweta County Commission.

Ladies and gentlemen, building a road nowadays is an arduous and complicated undertaking that can easily take many years. Getting it done means that many good people must stay the course over many years.

Unfortunately for us it also means that stopping it requires only one bad or incompetent person who fails to do the job when necessary.

It is not often in government that you can clearly find the culprit when things go wrong, but in this case every one of us who has worked for years to make TDK Boulevard a reality knows that Steve Brown stopped it.

Congratulations, Mr. Brown. That was your goal when you took office and you did it. I hope you feel proud.

TDK will get built some day when competent leadership returns to our city. It will cost us all hundreds of thousands of unnecessary dollars and it will, of course, be far too late to take the pressure off of Hwy. 54 West during the widening.

Our industrial park will continue to lose jobs and not be able to replace them. The Braelinn Road business community will continue to suffer. It is amazing the amount of harm one bad person can do.
Bob Lenox
Former 3-term mayor, 1992-2001
Peachtree City, Ga.

Johenry: a flip-flopper in the mold of Steve Brown

Submitted by the_assassin on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 10:10pm.

To believe Johenry, Bob Lenox was the worst thing to happen to PTC.

Now, because it suits Johenry's purposes, we should believe Bob Lenox as if he was one of Jesus' original disciples.

Keep blowing that much smoke Johenry and the PTCFD will be at your house to hose you down!

I'll say it again: being a legislator requires tact and building consensus. Would Dan Lakly have defeated district voting last year crying how "illegal" and "immoral" it was? Heck no!!!

Instead, he developed a rational argument that many of his fellow legislators could buy into. Brown won't be capable of doing that. He's good for a few things, chief of which is crying fire in a crowded theater. That's the chief reason he was voted out of office and remains a one-term mayor.

Johenry got you! LOL

Submitted by John M on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 11:01pm.

Hey the_assassin, Bob Lenox WAS the worst thing to happen in Peachtree City and your man Harold Logsdon is running a close second. You can tell more about Matt Ramsey by who is behind him than what he says (or doesn't say).

If you weren’t such a mean spite filled person, people wouldn’t pick on you. Guys like you aren’t doing Matt Ramsey any favors.

Johenry got you in the submissive posture and the hilarious part is she used your buddy Bob Lenox to get you there. You guys have got to start getting your stories straight because you come off looking like a bunch of fools.

Everybody knew Steve Brown was putting the brakes on TDK.

"I'm NOT John Munford"

assassin you are right about Brown, but the avatar???

Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 7:43pm.

Is that the Gong Show guy? If yes, why?

Brown is the worst thing that ever happened to Peachtree City and the possibility of that foolish, immature and reckless individual representing us at the State level is truly unnerving.

Embarrassment is the least of it. Getting cut out of the loop on State funded projects because "our" rep is unable to get along with others is not what we need right now.

I've heard he is even against the YMCA project which could have an aquatics facility and a performing arts center. If he kills that for us because of his blind ambition, it would truly be a sad day in Fayette County.

So, what's with the avatar?

Morgon

Submitted by d.smith700 on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 4:52am.

What YMCA project?
PTC has needed such a facility for years but won't build it!
Don't want the responsibility of the kids!

Yes Robert W. it's Chuck Barris

Submitted by the_assassin on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 10:15pm.

Why you ask? For all the reasons Chuckie Baby stood for: He was happy, he was hyper, he was excited. He was a TV visionary. (I'n one only in the sense that I watch *way* too much TV).

Chuck was also the creator of the Newlywed Game and countless other game shows, adding to the freewheeling nature of the 70s, an era in which I was born.

It's just a handle. Since I'm curious what's the origination of your username and avatar?

Chuck is a good choice then.

Submitted by Robert W. Morgan on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 6:33am.

I use my real name and a photo of me at work in LA shortly before I died of lung cancer in 1993. Those were the days- the 70's for me and I guess you and Chuck as well.

Correction - Morgan

Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 9:18am.

You died in 1998. Robert W. Morgan the "BOSS" the "Big Kahuna" of 93 KHJ and KRTH 101. I hope your tombstone has it right. Next we'll have someone claiming to be the Real Don Steele
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Chuck Barris, huh? No wonder you like high density developers

Submitted by Christian on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 10:40pm.

Aren't these types of personalities very similar? These high density particle board specialists will come into an area and slap up something that looks good for a season, but in the end has no lasting value...just like the TV pablum you enjoy. It is a mile wide and 2 inches deep. It has no intellectual value, no moral content, and ultimately degrades Western civilization by turning the viewers into the vacuous proles from 1984.

PTC is a LASTING thing of beauty. It has won numerous awards, and the original planners should be (and have been) commended for their vision. They weren't stripping the landscape of trees and creating residential developments so dense they look like a shopping center parking lot with cars and trucks parked all over every street.

These people want to steal the good name and reputation of PTC and make a buck...then they move on. The 30269 zip code is GOLD, and we should not just give it away to every builder/developer that blows into town, or the Coweta people who only want our roads for commuting.

Ramsey promising more pork out of state budget?

Submitted by johenry on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 9:23pm.

Blogger Robert W. Morgan is claiming Steve Brown is against a YMCA project and could kill it.

How is a state representative going to kill a YMCA project? So does this mean Matt Ramsey has promised to provide state funding for a private aquatics facility? I thought Matt Ramsey claimed to be a conservative? Guess not.

Thanks Bob Lenox

Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 8:13pm.

For nothing. Eye-wink

Wow! You sound like Democrat claiming the Republicans are getting ready to steal the food from a welfare recipient's free lunch in order to pay back a campaign debt to their so-called greedy corporate supporters. Puzzled

Steve Brown's biggest enemy . . his own words

Submitted by other side trax on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 4:43pm.

If Steve Brown is elected to fill the 72d district seat, we are in big trouble. Because Steve Brown represents only three things: rancor, divisiveness and himself. The voters of PTC turned Steve Brown out of office because he does not play well with others. His enmity with Fayette County resulted in PTC getting screwed out of its fair share of SPLOST allocation. To date, he has learned nothing from defeat. Brown’s venomous editorial diatribes and sour grapes attacks on Mayor Logsdon prove it. Mayor Logsdon is not perfect. But the fact is, Steve Brown left a lot of business unattended that the current administration courageously cleaned up. It had to be done. Because it would have been unprofessional and negligent to let it fester - - like Steve Brown did. Steve Brown recently accused Mayor Logsdon of “revisionist history”. But we know the truth. Steve Brown is the master of revisionist history.
Everyone knows Steve Brown stonewalled TDK. And don’t believe for a moment that Steve Brown never supported developers. Steve Brown singlehandedly led the effort to get the City Council to pass the Wieland annexation during his tenure. But Brown’s poisonous relationship with the other City Council members is the reason it did not pass. At the time, Murray Weed and Steve Rapson both accused Mayor Brown of attempting to establish a “legacy” for himself as mayor by supporting the annexation.
Why is Steve Brown running for office again? Because he is an opportunist and the most self-deluded individual PTC has ever known. As a state representative, I cannot think of one good thing Steve Brown would do for us. However, if you truly want rancor, mean-spirited enmity, and political divisiveness to fill the void for Dan Lakly, then by all means, vote for Steve Brown. I shudder to think of the potential negative ramifications his election could hold for the future reputation of Peachtree City and the district. It is time for Steve Brown to get a real job and return to the complete obscurity from whence he came. But he won’t. His ego is too huge. Brown will continue to write his own editorial revisionist history. Some will actually read his tripe. Others, who know Steve Brown better, will read between the lines.

From the other side of the tracks

You are From the "other side of the tracks"

Submitted by skyspy on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 8:21pm.

You are from the developer side, that tells lies almost as a reflex that can't be helped. You swoop in ruin towns and small cities with big boxes, cluster homes, and apartments...then take your millions and leave.

You reak of D-pac, and the group of dumb and dumber.

Thanks for the post for Steve Brown. Whether you know or not, you and your big fat mouth, and your garbage dump under the police station, and your illegal tennis center loan, and your walmart, and homedepot, and mcBULLY. With all of the "gifts" you offer.......

Thanks for the help STEVE BROWN is a sure bet.

Really I couln't have done it better, your venomous post clinched it for him thanks "other side of the tracks"

developer paranoia

Submitted by other side trax on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 11:27am.

skyspy - sorry to burst you skybubble, but I am not a developer, nor do I have any ties to the developmeny community. Just a resident who's not a big fan of Steve Brown - - because I witnssed first hand his ability to generate enmity and get nothing done. Your developer paranoia is truly comical.

Steve Brown self-deluded? Absolutely. He deluded himself into believing one of the main reasons he lost the mayoral race was due to the “Grand Tree” renaming - - his ludicrous attempt at political correctness. In reality, his loss had little or nothing to do with the tree. After losing to Logsdon by TWENTY percentage points in the general election, a reasonable person would have conceded the run- off and avoided the inevitable embarrassment. But not Steve Brown. Even after a host of former mayors and the rest of the candidates endorsed Logsdon, Steve Brown still believes he lost in large part because of the Grand Tree gaffe. Just read his post-election editorial. Completely delusional.
Steve Brown sure can write an editorial, though. His mean-spirited attacks on anyone who disagrees with him are infamous. Steve Brown needs to go get a job with a print rag. That’s where his only talent lies. His political career is over. Because the voters of Peachtree City remember the divisiveness and rancor that accompanied Steve Brown’s term as mayor. He talks a good game. And it was enough for the voters of Peachtree City to elect him once. But the voters of Peachtree City will not make that mistake again. Let’s hope the 72d district voters know him and his record - - accomplishing little while making many enemies.
I’m not a huge Logsdon fan, but you have to admit, he has done more in two years than Steve Brown did in four. You may not agree with everything Logsdon has done, but at least he is moving FORWARD in a professional and OPEN manner. The fact is, Mayor Logsdon cleaned up the Tennis Center mess which was the right thing to do. He also supported the Wieland annexation. So did Steve Brown – but Brown could not get it done. While some oppose annexation, it remains the BEST WAY for the city to CONTROL the development.
Wild accusations about Logsdon and Boone being in the pocket of developers are just that - wild accusations with absolutely no merit or proof. The entire City Council is trying to move this city forward the best way they know how. If you don’t like the direction they are going, attend a City Council meeting and make your voice heard. It takes time, commitment, and professionalism. Or you can just blog and write editorials. Like Steve Brown. It’s easy to be a critic. That’s the role Steve Brown has carved out for himself. Electing a professional critic like Steve Brown, who CREATES NOTHING, would be a huge mistake.

From the other side of the tracks

Here is Brown's Email After His Runoff Loss...

Submitted by wdd5885 on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 11:55am.

Peachtree City Mayor Steve Brown sent an e-mail Tuesday night following his runoff election loss to Harold Logsdon. The following is the text of that e-mail:

"A month ago, if anyone would have told me that the number one issue going into the runoff election was going to be a Christmas tree, I would have said they were crazy.

The extensive television coverage regarding a segment of our Christmas program called "Lighting of the Grand Tree" drew significant vocal opposition from local citizens and came as a total surprise.

The irony of it all was that a local church pastor came up with the name for the tree lighting and his intention was to make it a big occasion.

The full page ad for the Christmas event run in the local newspaper contained the word "Christmas" four times and "Christmas trees" also.

There was no effort being made to extract Christmas from the program and the content of the program at the amphitheater was overtly Christian in nature. This was truly an out of the ordinary ending to the campaign process.

I want to personally thank all of the citizens and the city staff for allowing me to be a part of four wonderfully productive years in elected office as your public servant. The outstanding relationships made at the state, regional and local levels will always be appreciated.

I hope that the advancements in land planning, multi-use path and environmental protection ordinances and standards endure for generations to come.

It has been an honor to serve our city over the past four years and promote open, honest government. I enjoyed working with the council on creating our many high marks and historical firsts.

It is my prayer that our local government will continue to be an advocate for all citizens and will disavow any effort to promote corruption within our system.

It is paramount that the council protects the interests of the ordinary citizens from the inevitable accumulation of power by the entities desirous of government decision making capacity.

My best wishes go to our future councils and our citizens.

Steve Brown

Interesting read. The rest of the letter can be found in the 12/27/2005 online edition of The Citizen. I cannot create a link to the specific page. I tried and was unsuccessful.

Exactly... What Is Your Point?

Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 11:59am.

Puzzled

The Point Is...

Submitted by wdd5885 on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 1:03pm.

That other side of the trax is correct in his/her assesment of why Brown thought he lost the election. The "Grand Tree" issue wasn't it. If you'll google "grand tree Steve Brown", his email to the citizen will be the second result. Read the entire letter as well as blogger comments.

Dude... You're Pasting

Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 11:40am.

Hey! No Fair.... you're cutting and pasting the same old bunk over and over again. You can't do that. Did you not read the blogger by-laws when you signed on 4 weeks ago?

Anyways... Lawyer Ramsey appreciates you're coming on to try to make him look good. But let me let you in on a little secret.... Your poorly written piece isn't helping him any. Eye-wink

Why don't you try a fresh response for each of your postings. It might help you with your credibility. Smiling

Thank You For This Post

Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 7:59pm.

I think you actually helped Steve Brown. With someone like you opposing Steve Brown it can only help. Smiling

Anyways... Nice try Logsdon. Better luck next time. Eye-wink

Steve Brown is a good man that will look out for PTC

Submitted by Christian on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 6:51pm.

That is all that we really need to know. Yes he is abrasive. Yes he gets into public fights. Yes he may need some diplomacy training. But all of that is irrelevant. Some of America's greatest leaders have been abrasive and undiplomatic.

Steve Brown is an HONEST man and he is not beholden to powerful developers. He may side with them at times, but at least we know he is independent of the TDK Machine. Steve Brown is the man for this job.

I've asked on here for Brown to address this

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 11:00am.

and other curious votes. To date, he refuses. A simple explanation would be nice for this voter to hear.

Ramsey supporters testify Brown killed TDK (the_assassin lying)

Submitted by johenry on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 12:45am.

The_assassin, you big liar you, even Matt Ramsey's biggest campaign support, former mayor Bob Lenox, proves you are lying. Take if from the man funding the Ramsey campaign for House district 72, Bob Lenox, that you are trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.

Guess what? They aren't that stupid. Read what Ramsey supporter Bob Lenox had to say in the Citizen archives below.

The Citizen, October 12, 2005
Lenox: Brown has often impeded road projects

When the court order was overturned in 2000 the city immediately began work on TDK with the goal of building it before the widening of Hwy. 54 West.

The original design met then existing FAA regulations and with prompt action by the city the road could have been built to these original plans.

Unfortunately for us it also means that stopping it requires only one bad or incompetent person who fails to do the job when necessary.

Congratulations, Mr. Brown. That was your goal when you took office and you did it. I hope you feel proud.

Brown, Ramsey, and TDK

Submitted by pentapenguin on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 11:22pm.

I don't think many will deny that Mr. Brown made a mistake in supporting TDK originally. However, I think he now realizes the error of his support and now sees that TDK will destroy PTC and our way of life.

On the other hand, Mr. Ramsey appears to be in the developers' pockets so we have a choice between two candidates: one will almost certainly go for TDK and one who says he certainly won't. I'll pick Brown. He's not perfect, but he's a good guy.

Ramsey is Against TDK

Submitted by Regular Guy in PTC on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 3:09pm.

It amazes me to see these blogs and the wreckless use of words that are thrown around that have little or no truth regarding Matt Ramsey.

If anyone would ask the candidate the question about TDK you will find that he does not support the TDK expansion. Just pick up the phone and call his campain HQ. Where does anyone get that he is for this road.....not to mention I don't think this one issue, which he is against, defines whether or not to vote for him, at least not for me. There is more to this position to think about! I want a man with integrity, who knows what the people want, and is in touch with the community....I have not seen this from the other candidates.

Not to mention we need someone who will get things done, not be overlooked. Further, I think there is only 1 true Republican Candidate in this race and that is Matt Ramsey.

I Don't Trust What You Say About Ramsey

Submitted by Git Real on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 7:44pm.

You say he's against TDK. Then may I interpret that to mean that Lawyer Ramsey is for controlled growth? Again... I don't think so. Need you be reminded that we've seen some of his supporter list? Let's examine once again some of the hacks that are supporting the developers sock puppet.

Joel Cowan (D)

Doug Warner (R)

Bobby "I Hate Steve Brown With All My Might" Lenox (R)
The Runaway Growth Politicians Of Fayetteville (R)

Hollis L. Harris (R)

Ken Steele, (D) Mayor, City of Riverdale

Joel Cowan,(D) Former Mayor, Peachtree City

Ralph Jones,(R) Former Mayor, Peachtree City

Robert Lenox, (R) Former Mayor, Peachtree City

Chip Conner,(R) Former Mayor, Peachtree City

Fred Brown, Jr., (Becker Kind Of Republican) Former Mayor, Peachtree City

Crescent II, LLC (Developers Michael Holcomb & David Sparkman)

Douglas and Carol Warner (Whichever Political Party Meets His Immediate Needs At That Moment)

Developer Chris Parrott

And aren't you just dying to see who shows up on Lawyer Ramsey's disclosure statemnents after the election is over?

For a more complete listing of Lawyer Ramsey's supporters, you only need to drive around to many of the vacant or 'For Sale' commercial properties in Fayette County that has a 4x4 TDK Ramsey billboard on it.

If you need further proof that Lawyer Ramsey is a poor choice, just look at all the support he has garnered from the local Republican Party. If that isn't proof of how shallow his supporters are I don't know what will convince you. Puzzled

Remember, these are the same guys that gave us Westmoreland and Judas Iscariot Seabaugh. Shocked

Vote for the guy whose opponents fought to prevent Haddix and Sturmbaum from obtaining office.

For some of you concerned about Steve Brown's signs.... Just remember that elections aren't determined by how many signs one places. Many a failed politician will vouch for that one. Just ask that Mr. Osek guy that ran for dog catcher a few years ago. Or was that Judge?

The "List"

Submitted by d.smith700 on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 4:56am.

Well of course that list of local "field hands" above would be against Brown.
He is not a member of the "clique." He doesn't want to be!
If we don't have a different view occasionally, all of the money goes in one direction.

Mostly right git

Submitted by mudcat on Mon, 12/10/2007 - 7:53pm.

Except for your hateful comment on the Real Mayor Brown and calling Chris Parrott a "developer" which he is not, you are right on!

Ramsey is owned by the wrong crowd. Steve is the man. He will win because he deserves to win and he will represent us well. I will vote for him.

Is Joel really a Dem? He seems so smart.

Joel a Democrat

Submitted by d.smith700 on Tue, 12/11/2007 - 5:00am.

Up until a few years ago, much of the south was listed as democrat. They were however disciples of Harry Byrd of Virginia, a conservative politician.
Many went republican with Nixon and Reagan.
Those left as republican from the old school usually vote republican for important races.

Steve Brown is the only man that can stop TDK!

Submitted by Christian on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 10:35pm.

That is why you developers hate him so much. I have never voted for Steve Brown, but you can be sure I will be voting for him in 2 weeks.

Maybe Steve could have done more as mayor - -although I doubt it. The bottom line: this is a 2 man race between a developer lawyer and Steve Brown, and TDK is the only real issue in this election. If the developers win this one, I am moving sooner rather later. This city will be nothing more than a cut-through motorway for tens of thousands of cars going up 74, Crosstown, Peachtree Parkway, etc. PTC will become an interstate.

Assassin not a developer

Submitted by the_assassin on Sun, 12/09/2007 - 11:24pm.

Ah, Christian. Casting more stones eh?

I'm not a developer, nor are my friends. The only real estate I've ever owned (or marketed) is my VERY OWN HOME!

I'm not one of the "moneyed" politicos. Just an observer with some real insight on the former one term mayor as opposed to unproven allegations about other candidates.

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