Should I vote for Matt Ramsey?

While I was in law school, my classmates and I were encouraged to run for public office later on in life. Our teachers told us how our training in the law would add immensely to our ability to contribute to the government of our country at all levels.

They certainly were right. Our courses on constitutional law gave us a good understanding of the federal structure of our government and the roles of all three branches of government. In our three years of full-time training in the law we certainly gained an appreciation of how the system works.

Along the way, we also gained a good feel about things that might need fixing. Like our tax system. Or our ways of dealing with mental illness.

There is no question that a legal education gives somebody a head start in understanding how government works.

When the Georgia legislature considers updating the rules of evidence that govern trials in our state courts, next year, a lawyer will understand what’s going on and the importance of it all. When the subject of tax reform comes up, a lawyer will know how the existing tax code is structured, and that might help give him better ideas for improving it. From his training a lawyer might also have better ideas on ways to deal with identity theft. If businesses find problems with our Uniform Commercial Code or workers’ insurance law, a lawyer will better appreciate how to fix them.

The obsessive compulsive among us can’t appreciate there is more to life than TDK, abortion or district voting. Which is why it is important to elect candidates who have broad knowledge, a wide range of interests, and a willingness to learn and inquire before reaching judgment. But the most crucial element, I think, is whether a candidate loves his fellow man.

Loving your fellow man means being willing to listen, not passing judgment needlessly, being sympathetic to the problems of others, be they elderly, children, mentally ill, or poor. And in the end being willing to help more so than to condemn.

That’s why not every lawyer is fit to be a legislator.

But being a lawyer is a good head start, and if Matt Ramsey (whom I personally don’t know) can prove himself to be a decent human being, he might tower head and shoulders above the rest of the candidates.

Don’t expect Mother Teresa in a candidate. Mother Teresa is dead, and she wasn’t American anyway. It is gracious of all our candidates to offer themselves for public service, and it’s good to see a lawyer willing to serve as a legislator.

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Submitted by Richard Hobbs on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 10:13am.

Being a lawyer CAN be beneficial to the legislative process, but its by no means a requirement. I don't recall being taught in law school that we would be welcomed additions to politics, but its not uncommon.

The fact is, the original framers of our constitution, anticipated part-time legislatures. Our elected officials worked their normal jobs and only worked in politics part time.

This is impractical in national politics, but at our local level it still is possible. I really don't know how, because I could not handle taking three months off a year to vote at the state capital and expect my clients to wait on me.

Nonetheless, the experience and understanding of the process, which is taught to lawyers, is immeasurable helpful. One need only to persuse these blogs over the last year about news worthy events to see the disdain for poorly written laws. The list of rules and laws written by inexperienced law makers causes untold expenses upon our State Government, and upon the lives of those that it effects.

We need some lawyers at our State House, right now only 14% of our elected reps are lawyers, and the vast majority of those are democrats. So, I find having another lawyer elected, especially one who is a Republican is something that would likely help.

I do happen to like Steve Brown's no holds barred style, but he has been way out there, in the nether regions when it comes to several key issues, including his endorsement several years ago of District Voting, a purely Democratic proposed and endorsed bill.

I don't believe that I have ever found a pure litmus test for being a Republican. I wonder what that means now a days. But I do know that Dan Lakley was fully opposed to District Voting, and Steve Brown took the opposite position.

Are there other issues, sure. But this one point has troubled me from the very beginning. The idea that if you don't have someone with your same skin qualities, i.e. "light reflectiveness abilities", representing you, then you are not being represented at all. Thats just pure racism cloaked in political correctness.

Ramsey may not like my endorsement, so I won't give it to him, but I will say that he will have my vote, for no other reason than from my conversations with him and with those that support him.

I tell my children that more can be said about the company one keeps than any other single thing. Matt may have a few undesirables supporting him, but compared to those that support Steve, well, all I can say is that we have enough Democrats supporting us at the State Capital. We need another Dan Lakley, and Steve Brown sadly isn't the choice I'd make.


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Submitted by Voice of Fayett... on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 6:01pm.

Want someone like Lakly ? Hobbs says he wants someone like Dan Lakly: “We need another Dan Lakley.” Dan’s son David Lakly endorsed Steve Brown in this week’s Letters to the Editor. That should help you out.


Submitted by Doug on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 9:26pm.

I agree with Voice of Fayette on Dan Lakly. Come on now, really, who knows Dan Lakly better Richard Hobbs or Dan Lakly's son who lives in Peachtree City with his wife and kids?

Dave Lakly is a great family man and loves the city. I don't know Richard Hobbs. If I've got to pick one it's going to Dave Lakly and Steve Brown.

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Submitted by ilockemup on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 4:33pm.

The courthouse crowd has never heard of Matt Ramsey. No one in law enforcement has ever heard of him. The only case he is supposedly to have had was a zoning case with boss Warner representing a landowner wanting a rezoning or something like that. Lawyer Hobbs is supporting Lawyer Ramsey. That’s not a shock. Hobbs will never ever buck his group of cronies. You will never see a lawyer bucking the bar or the judges or the courthouse. Who gets the raises? The lawyers and the judges and not the cops. Another wet behind the ears lawyer? I'll pass.


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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 1:29pm.

Isn't the race for "District" 72 district voting? But you don't have any problems with it, do you? How about Congressional "District" 3?

Since when is allowing local voters to vote for their own representative un-conservative?

Brown said the only way he would go for district voting would be by voter referendum. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I'm disappointed in you Richard Hobbs for siding with Matt Ramsey who is nothing more than a Lynn Westmoreland at the state level, all babble and no substance. But of course, you are a lawyer.

As for wdd5885 comments about Steve Brown alienating most everyone he worked with, I will say anyone who alienated Bob Lenox, the Development Authority and all the other crooks has my vote.

Vote Republican


Submitted by wdd5885 on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 8:30am.

If you think Steve Brown will be able to work well with others, then by all means, vote for him. In his stint as Mayor, he alientaed most everyone he worked with, but maybe he's seen the light and will go to the capital and do a good job. I'm pretty sure he'll need help accomplishing his agenda at the state level. I doubt he'll get any.

The only thing I've decided is who I'm not voting for.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 9:33am.

In his stint as Mayor, he alientaed most everyone

Let me help you with the correct finish to your statement.

In his stint as Mayor, he (Steve Brown) alienated most everyone that was trying to profit at the expense of the the taxpayers and our quality of life.

I like it... I like it. Perhaps 'The Alienator' is exactly who we need to perform the dirty tasks for us taxpayers, since the rest of our elected political hacks refuse to.

The only thing I've decided is who I'm not voting for.

Liar... you've already made it clear you're a Lawyer Ramsey supporter.


Submitted by wdd5885 on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 11:33am.

Git,

The last time you accused me of lying you were dead wrong, as you are this time. To the hundreds of people reading these blogs, this is Steve Brown 101. Git Real accused me of lying once before, only to find out he/she was wrong. And once again, I've been accused of lying with no basis in fact, just supposition.

Determine for yourselves if this is the kind of representation you want in Atlanta next year. All one has to do is look to the recent city council elections in PTC to see how dirty these people can get. Accusations with nothing more than blind assumptions were thrown around about good people, bloggers accusing Mike King of being an alchoholic? What a joke. This type of nastiness eminates from the Steve Brown camp.

Again, vote for who you think will be the most effective legislator.

And Git, go do some research, call some folks up at city hall, see how much they enjoyed working with Mayor Brown. Call some of the county commisioners, call Greg Dunn, call the Airport Authority members, go do some research. Everyone knows you won't.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 1:55pm.

Look wdd5885, I voted for Harold Logsdon ... I told others to vote for Harold Logsdon ... I later found out I made a mistake.

I sincerely hope you aren't still part of the Logsdon camp and that you got out like a bunch of us.

Bad_ptc is exactly right about Steve fighting for those he represents. I was at the county commission meeting when Greg Dunn told Steve Brown that even though the citizens of PTC pay county taxes for recreation, they were going to be left out of the county recreation funding.

I didn't have kids young enough to play in recreation sports, but Dunn's slight of PTC really pissed me off. Is it any wonder that a lack luster Eric Maxwell could beat a guy like Greg Dunn. I guess a lot of people agreed with Steve Brown.

Bad-ptc is right about the EMS taxes too and had Steve not battled for tax equity, Jack Smith may not have given PTC taxpayers their money back.

And my last point, and I'll stop wasting my time on you, is don't blame what a bunch of hidden bloggers say on Steve Brown. I don't hold your foolish diatribes against Matt Ramsey. Steve writes his opinions and positions and signs his name to it. By the way, he actually has positions on the issues unlike Matt who's parriotting Harold Logsdon's old stuff on zero-based budgeting.

Vote Republican


Submitted by wdd5885 on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 2:59pm.

I'm glad you done wasting your time on me. Please don't waste anymore.

And as for foolish diatribes, please. You and the rest of these guys have been on a "everyone's out to screw us all" soapbox since I've started reading these blogs. Someone offers an opposing voice, and suddenly were all "liars", "developer's" and "hacks". Nice.

You stay on your soapbox, continue to spread your message, and I'll continue to spread mine.

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Submitted by bad_ptc on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 11:54am.

Would that be the same Greg Dunn that stiffed PTC for $34 mil. in SPLOST money? Could it be the same Greg Dunn that shafted us on the double taxation for EMS services. Maybe it's the same Greg Dunn that spent a couple million taxpayer dollars trying to sue the Sheriff.
Is that the Greg Dunn you're referring to?

The Airport Authority members, now there's a good-ole boy group if I've ever seen one.

That would be the same Airport Authority that just told the PTC city council that they're not costing the taxpayers any money, and thanks for the money from the hotel/motel tax.

Just what kind of a profit has the Airport Authority shown in the last few years? Oh, that's right, they LOST over $1.5 mil. "But we're expanding".

Perhaps there's someone that was on the old Development Authority we could contact as a reference for Steve. You know, the guys that cost us $1.7 mil.

How about the former administration officials that negotiated the deal for the dilapidated water/serer system or the beautiful Police Department we are now paying twice for.

Is there anyone I forgot?

Steve Brown will fight for the people he represents. That would be us by the way.


Submitted by Doug on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 11:01pm.

I love to hear lawyers expound upon being lawyers. I'd bet mafia members can extol the virtues of belonging to a crime family too.

The very fact Mr. Ramsey can't seem to speak to any of the issues and he's getting contributions from the likes of Bob Lenox, Doug Warner and Fred Brown would lead me to believe we'll get spanked worse by Mr. Ramsey than we did with Mayor Logsdon.

Submitted by d.smith700 on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 7:10am.

It is time for a complete clean-out of the local government.

Let us try something besides lawyers, also.

Vote Brown!

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Submitted by Fyt35 on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 7:40am.

I would certainly prefer a successful businessman as opposed to an attorney.


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Submitted by Christian on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 10:46pm.

What is needed most is integrity. Which profession in our country has the most integrity today? I doubt most people would agree it is the legal profession.

BTW, helpful lawyer mentions Blessed Mother Teresa in his article, and said we should not expect a noble soul like her as our leader. Why not? If we elected people that aspired to be like Mother Teresa into the legislature then graft and corruption would be a thing of the past. Highways would not be built to enrich a few developers at the expense of many others. Tax money wouldn't be squandered as it is now. Respect for the unborn, love of family, and a strong work ethic would be the norm. Mother Teresa's order takes no funds from the government and yet they do more good for orphans and AIDS victims than any public agency anywhere.

I truly think Steve Brown is the man for this job. He has integrity, and will look out for the little guy. Let us pray.


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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 7:38pm.

But in this case he/she/it sounds like some kind of partisan village idiot.

But being a lawyer is a good head start, and if Matt Ramsey (whom I personally don’t know) can prove himself to be a decent human being, he might tower head and shoulders above the rest of the candidates.

Those have got to be the lamest reasons to vote for Lawyer Ramsey that I've seen to date. Because he's a lawyer and 'decent person'?

Steve Brown is a decent person. Heidi Becker is a .... well a Fred Brown / Joel Cowan Republican. The other guy / Democrat, for all I know is a 'decent person'. How in the heck does that qualify someone to be a qualified lawmaker?

I want to know where Lawyer Ramsey stands on the issues. Reading over his slick campaign verbiage on his website tells me nothing. The best clues that I've had, as to what kind of person Lawyer Ramsey is, is to study out who this guy has aligned himself with and who and what activities he's been involved with in the past. Some are honorable while some are down right scary and corrupt. As for me and my friends.... we won't be voting for Lawyer Ramsey and his Mitch Seabaugh developer, lawyer, Logsdon supporters.

So far all I've seen out of Lawyer Ramsey is persona that matches a 'Ronnie Chance Campaign Mailer'. All fluff and nothing on the issues.

How about Lawyer Ramsey. Will you do the will of the people you desire to represent and disavow TDK permanently?


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Submitted by bad_ptc on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 8:19pm.

Lawyers and public service:

Both Clinton’s used to be lawyers.

Congress is full of it, I mean them.

Alberto Gonzales was the head of all lawyers. Kind of like the head of the Gambino family. Think of all the money and time that was spent on him becoming a lawyer. By the way Al, how’s that working out for ya?

Bush and Cheney buy and then sell them in bulk. You get a better deal that way.

Then there’s John Edwards, he’s a lawyer too.

How many lawyers does it take to tax the average American back to the stone age? One!

Two of my recent favorite lawyers are Rep. John Boehner (R-Ohio) who sued Rep. James McDermott (D-Wash.).

The jest of the story goes something like this.

One of these lawyers hires a room full of other lawyers to sue the other lawyer.

Boehner wins is case.

Now for the fun part. Boehner is awarded $10,000 in statutory damages, $50,000 in punitive damages and unspecified "reasonable" attorneys' fees.

Current estimates put the "reasonable" attorneys' fees at something like $800,000.

Moral of the story, only a lawyer would hire another lawyer to sue another lawyer and only win 13.3% of what he has to pay his lawyer for winning the his lawsuit.

Yes, becoming a lawyer certainly helps to prepare one for elected service.


Submitted by Lawdawg on Fri, 12/07/2007 - 9:04am.

God forbid we have lawyers in the State house, where you know, they make laws. I'm sure whatever you do for a living better prepares you for public service. That is why I'm so surprised you aren't running for office instead of asking your mom to bring more coffee downstairs to your basement "apartment". Jerk. By the way, these guys were lawyers as well, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton and Abraham Lincoln, but you're right we should have nothing but insurance salesmen in office. They'll look out for us.

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Submitted by mudcat on Wed, 12/05/2007 - 7:15pm.

Don't vote for Matt. Instead, vote for Steve.


Submitted by helpful lawyer on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 7:48am.

I agree that Matt Ramsey has so far shown himself to be just like all the other politicians. In fact I got some of these machine-generated recorded phone calls from him and I was none too pleased.

I also think it’d be nice to send someone who’s a “breath of fresh air” to the legislature.

But I wonder if sending them Steve Brown is not more like a tornado than just a breath of fresh air.

I am open to being persuaded. My mind is not fully made up (and I don't have a closed mind).

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Submitted by birdman on Fri, 12/07/2007 - 2:04pm.

ARE YOU KIDDING???? Brown is simply a Professional Politician Wannabe. As Mayor he turned a part time job into fulltime, micromanaging our city hall. He spent a sizable amount of precious funds to renovate his new office. He set up committees to review ALL the city ordinances and then made himself a member of EVERY committee (committees set up to bring findings to the council), and in so doing drove the direction of each committee to insert his "vision" into our city. He violated the ethics laws then blamed others for his violations. He ignored the Annexation Moratorium and negotiated, BY HIMSELF, an annexation package with John Wieland homes, he publicly attacked and slandered citizens, business leaders, political office holders from the State level through the local level simply because they didn't do what he wanted. He flat insulted and angered all surrounding communities. He attempted to drive the elections in Tyrone because he hated one of the candidates. ETC. Etc. etc...
Brown sounds good on paper, but does he have the solution to the water problem? Does he have a solution to the outrageously high property taxes? He surely thinks he does. But do we really want an out of work former part time office manager solving all our state problems with no committees or advisers to help him? And when the rest of the state legislatures vote him down? Well he'll simply publicly attack them as he does everyone else. Bet the State Legislature will jump to help Fayette County then.
Go ahead, vote him in. When he runs for reelection he'll get slaughtered just like he did when he ran for mayor. Problem is, it will prevent a good candidate from stepping forward and we'll get someone like Logsden again. You know, AOBB (anyone but Brown). No one will run if they are always going to be called liars, crooks, thieves, developers, etc. by you anonymous minions. That's how we got Logsden. Who, by the way, may not be a great mayor, but at least our city leadership isn't spending time insulting everyone on the face of the earth. That is one job that ol' Stevie seems to like to keep to himself.


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Submitted by yardman5508 on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 8:04am.

all this discussion about Brown this and Ramsey that...about how government is not receptive or responsive to the people...about how we should clean house...Maybe it is time to try something other than the same old Republican view of government. Madden, maybe. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 12/06/2007 - 9:26am.

Sometimes you are such a silly goose. Eye-wink


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