At the half: Tigers up, Creek tied

Fri, 11/23/2007 - 8:28pm
By: The Citizen

Halftime scores just in from tonight's playoff football games:

Fayette County 17
Bainbridge 7

Sandy Creek 0
North Hall 0

The Citizen's Mike Boylan and Kevin Wandra are at both games and will have detailed coverage here later tonight AND on tomorrow's version of The Citizen Sports Blitz, which will be up by noon.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 11/23/2007 - 11:44pm.

An outstanding performance by the FCHS Football, Cheerleaders, and Band squads. I'm so proud of all. Also, I want to thank "hutch", "acey1" and all the other first year FCHS band parents. You all made it happen.

I also want to thank all band parents out there that worked so hard to support their respective school. I assure you, your efforts have not gone unnoticed by your school's band.

After four years it's finally over for me. I felt a little sad in cleaning and closing the concession stand. I'll miss loading the "pit" and driving the truck to the game or the competition but I take great satisfaction in knowing that I contributed something to these young people. My hope is that when these students become parents they too will take an active role with their children and school.

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sat, 11/24/2007 - 8:31am.

Thank you Cy, as freshman band parents we needed to be shown the ropes and you and G.C. and the other "old timers" did a wonderful job. Even with all the hard work and long days and nights it was fun and I know you'll miss it and I've instructed the hutchette to work on your other kid to jump from orchestra to band just to get you back. Our kids lost last night but they lost as they have won all year, with dignity and class. Tommy Webb has instilled in these boys traits that will take them a long way in life and they couldn't have learned them from a better man. See you at the next band function where hopefully it doesn't involve heavy lifting.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:21pm.

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Submitted by BPR on Sat, 11/24/2007 - 7:34am.

Hey guys, this is my son's first year in the band, lots of hard work. These are memories that you and your kids will not forget that you were there for them supporting them. To me they are ALL WINNERS- My son is in the band for Sandy Creek, we could not ask for a better Band Director and Asst. Band Director - Sandy Creek football team, they did not give up. Second half is when North Hall scored two touch downs. WE will be there next year- well the next three years- look for my son he plays the best tuba in Fayette County- I know if your child plays tuba they are the best- just ask our Band Director who has a Son at Whitewater. His son should be proud of his Dad- he's
great! We were all calling different teams to see what their scores were during the game. We should let them all know - WE ARE STILL WINNERS- By the way did you see "Facing The Giants"- Great movie!


Submitted by 1bighammer on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 5:00pm.

Does he direct the marching band too? if so, he actually could use a lesson from any of the other directors in the county on how to be a part of the "football" experience. SC's band plays very little during the games, they play at the most inappropriate times, and the musical choices are far from getting the crowd pumped up. What he doesn't seem to understand is that the Band is an INTEGRAL part of helping the crowd and team get pumped up. He hasn't got a clue about that. Then there's the "we're taking the whole third quarter off". What is that? Take a few minutes after 1/2 time, 5 at the most, and get back to playing.

Every team that Sandy Creek played this year had a band that UNDERSTOOD their contribution to the game. I thought that things couldn't get worse than last year. I was wrong. The band left at halftime in a pivotal game at Haralson County, they drove all that way, played maybe 2 songs, then loaded up left. If I was the county I'd ask for them to pay back the fuel it cost to go over. Then we go to North Hall and he doesn't even make it mandatory for them to attend? Real school spirit.

Yep, he sounds like a GREAT band director...NOT!

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 5:24pm.

You are so so funny, the remark about Rosie, I can't wait untill my husband gets home to tell him- it will keep us laughing for days. WE need your humor.


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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 5:23pm.

You are so so funny, the remark about Rosie, I can't wait untill my husband gets home to tell him- it will keep us laughing for days. WE need your humor.


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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 6:12pm.

HOW COME ALL THE OTHER SCHOOLS SUPPORT THEIR BAND- YOU DON'T. WE PLAY AND DO JUST AS MUCH AS THEY DO!


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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 6:10pm.

HOW DO YOU KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT BEING A BAND DIRECTOR? ARE YOU A BAND DIRECTOR? You my friend don't have a clue what you are talking about.

Mr. Gunter and Mr. Kelly is having to clean up all the nonsense that you probably loved in the last 6 years. You don't have any right to say a thing. Is your child in the band? If not don't say a word. If they are get out we don't need people who don't support and respect their band director.

CONTRIBUTION TO THE GAME; I HAVE YOU KNOW I SAW HOW MANY TIMES AT OUR HOME GAME BECAUSE THE FOOTBAll TEAM SOLD ADVERTISMENT AND HE TRIED TO PLAY HE HAD TO GET THEM TO STOP PLAYING- IT WAS THE BAND'S TURN TO PLAY. WHEN HE WENT UP TO THE BOX THEY SAID THEY HAD TO GET THE ADVERTISMENT ON.

PUMP- UP- WE SUPPORT THE FOOTBALL TEAM AND DO THEY SUPPORT US- I THINK NOT- WHEN CHEERLEADERS ARE TOO GOOD TO RIDE THE BUS TO AWAY GAMES WITH OUR COLOR GUARD! OR SO THEY THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way - we had competition the next day 3 hours away- not that you even care that we are there. For years schools have treated bands second class- well I am here to tell you not with Mr. Gunter and Mr. Kelly you won't with me.

WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER AND BOSS US , OR HAVE YOU ALREADY? WE HAVE PEOPLE AT SANDY CREEK THAT ARE VERY GOOD FOR BEING OUR BOSS SO THEY THINK.

Pump up- sorry I see football players the million that pay that don't get to pay dance to the band music.

EVERY SCHOOL TAKES OFF THE THIRD QUARTER, ANYWAY WE WERE TOLD TO SO THE FOOTBALL TEAM COULD GET THEIR ADVERTISMENT ON. SO TALK TO THE PRINCIPAL. They won't let them play.

Mr. Gunter & Mr. Kelly has had to clean up and are still cleaning up the junk that went on before they came- by the way where is that wonderful band director that could not control the kids???????
Maybe he would have lost his job??????????

I am a Band Parent I know what they play when they play it, so who are you????? Someone who does not know a thing what they are talking about. Or you personally don't like the band or the directors, is that the answer.

Yep, what a GREAT PARENT YOU ARE- NOT!!!!!!!


Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:41pm.

Despite English being a second language for me, I see that I am more proficient than you are. Please, if anyone can help this poor confused babbling idiot - HELP HER! Start with this:


"If they are get out we don't need people who don't support and respect their band director.

CONTRIBUTION TO THE GAME; I HAVE YOU KNOW I SAW HOW MANY TIMES AT OUR HOME GAME BECAUSE THE FOOTBAll TEAM SOLD ADVERTISMENT AND HE TRIED TO PLAY HE HAD TO GET THEM TO STOP PLAYING- IT WAS THE BAND'S TURN TO PLAY. WHEN HE WENT UP TO THE BOX THEY SAID THEY HAD TO GET THE ADVERTISMENT ON.

For years schools have treated bands second class- well I am here to tell you not with Mr. Gunter and Mr. Kelly you won't with me.

Pump up- sorry I see football players the million that pay that don't get to pay dance to the band music.

WHY DON'T YOU COME OVER AND BOSS US , OR HAVE YOU ALREADY? WE HAVE PEOPLE AT SANDY CREEK THAT ARE VERY GOOD FOR BEING OUR BOSS SO THEY THINK.

Someone who does not know a thing what they are talking about. Or you personally don't like the band or the directors, is that the answer.

Yep, what a GREAT PARENT YOU ARE- NOT!!!!!!!"

You Ma'am are a bona fide idiot.

Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:26pm.

Thanks Dude!

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:40pm.

No problem. This bpr/kitty combo has the biggest chip on their shoulders I have ever seen.

It was a good year for Sandy Creek. Next year should be fun with all of the Fayette County schools in the same region.

It's too bad all the band parents can't be as level headed as Hutch and fyt35 and cy. Oh well.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:52pm.

Don't loop all band parents in with bpr/kitty.

Although, they're some of the more passionate parents.

Nothing against fyt35, hutch, and cyclist, but band at SCHS is much different than band at FCHS and Whitewater.

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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 8:01pm.

I can see from your posts that all is fine at the creek. There is always a few loose nuts in every bag of bolts. Eye-wink

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 7:41am.

Daniel supports me - he thinks Mr. Gunter and Mr. Kelly are great band directors. He just said I was more passionate- which means don't knock my kid's band or directors. If you reread he says the same-


Submitted by 1bighammer on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 10:19am.

and that was kitty! If you'll go back and read you'll see that in one of Daniel's posts he agreed with me about Discipline, the 3rd quarter break being too long, and song selection.

You and kitty need to realize that this isn't middle school anymore and its not about making all the wittle kiddies feel good. They need to grow up and realize, before its too late, in the real world you perform or you get let go. No more excuses about the band directors being new, not enough musicians, like I said before, great band directors make the most of what they have. They take stock of there musicians' forte's and they build on that. If you have great percussion you play songs that showcase them, if its great brass you showcase them, and so on. Its like a coach of a football team, if you have a tremendous running back and your QB can't throw then you run the ball, not pass it.

Stop whining about having to work so hard in that concession stand, serving at the most 1500 people a night. You are a parent and its your DUTY to do those things whether you like it or not. I actually commend you for doing your part, because there are so many parents that won't.

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 4:59pm.

Do you even have kids that go to Sandy Creek or school at all. This would not even be a subject if you had not knocked my child and the Band Directors, I don't care what you think- it isn't up to you.

How would you feel if the table were reversed? Not too good huh? If you have kids you love them, that's the point.

I have asked a simple question how do football players and cheerleaders at Sandy Creek raise fundraisers- we sell candy, cheesecake. Simple Question?

Enough of it all- I know the truth and truth stands for all, it shows in the end. You won't be getting anymore responses from me.

I am not going to fight with you anymore say whatever you want- make me laugh- okay. I just don't know why you chose to knock my child and others that are decent- that is what made me angry. Oh, by the way everyone that is in the band are not bad.

Find me the perfect kid- please. This is the end of discussion for me- only if you want to come to our Band Boosters Meeting. I hope you do.


Submitted by 1bighammer on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 5:31pm.

kid that goes to Sandy Creek and have one that has graduated. I didn't single out YOUR child and say, "bpr your child sux". I don't care if you don't care what I think. It's my opinion and I shall voice it as I see fit.

If someone were to say the team or the organization that my child was a part of was not very good or that their coach / director was not good, I wouldn't take it so personally. I might even agree with them, if they had a valid point. Which I do. You can deny it ALL you want but denial doesn't mean it isn't so.

I still don't understand where you are going with the whole fundraising thing. I told you what I thought the Cheerleaders do. I also told you that football has fees, and does fundraising.

Your comments seem to insinuate that football is raising funds illegally or immorally. Lets see, they have a golf tournament, they sell ads on the scoreboard (a scoreboard that they are paying for...no one else), they sell ads for the football program, they sell the actual programs, they do car washes, and they have worked at the Ga Dome.

Oh, then there's Hi-Fi Buys concerts we used to do, I'll bet this is the one you wanted me to bring up because it involved selling alcohol. You probably think its immorral to support school activities by selling alcohol. Well guess what, there are other schools in Fayette County doing it too.

I know its hard to fight an intellectual battle since you aren't prepared to do so. Your arsenal of weapons is non-existent.

I'll agree with you on one thing...there is no Perfect kid. Why do you keep telling me to come to the Booster Club Meeting? I've got better things to do than sit around and listen to band parents complain about how badly the band is treated!

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 7:34pm.

No response


Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 5:39pm.

Mike Maxwell - Past Band Booster President Started the "sales of alcohol" (working concessions at the Dome, etc.) as a fund raiser for the band. The band also does not pay for field maintenance, mow, paint or line the field, pay for mowers or blade sharpeners, buy and put out weed killer and fertilizer ... but they sure as heck march on it....don;t they?? Truth is ... bpr is clueless about where the money comes from and where is goes in High school extra curricular programs. 1bighammer - I don;t know you - but you are certainly entitled to your opinion, you never singled out ANY kids (unlike bpr did with athletes) and you seem like a good rational fellow high school football admirer.

Nice to meet you - friend.

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 5:16pm.

"This would not even be a subject if you had not knocked my child..."

Liar. He never said a word about your kid.... YOU are the only one to make fun of students.

However, since you cannot let go of this until someone does, allow me: Your kid is a loser. he is a pudgy little dweeb who will never fit in with the kids you hate- you know, the ones that YOU made fun of ... the cheerleaders and football players. Your dreams of watching little pudgewad make a touchdown are gone forever....the best you can hope for now is that he doesn't play the flute. Okay - now, I feel better - now you can gripe and piss and moan about someone (me) saying something about your kid without lying. I don't know the little cupcake, but if he is anything like you I am sure he is a sniveling little transgender mutant.

Again: 1bighammer never said a thing about your pansy little boy that plays in the band. Now shut-up.

Submitted by bobcat on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 7:54pm.

I have small kids their ages are 2 and 4, which I don't know what in the world you are talking about- leave bpr alone, end of it, I will not say anything else to either of you.

Except she is correct, lbighammer did start it when bpr paid a compliment to the band and the directors- go back and READ PLEASE. 1bighammer responds talking about the band director and all their faults, all the kids faults. What do you call that?????? Feel sorry for your jocks, cheerleaders, she did not even come close to what the two of you have said, read each other comments - you already know them, you are the same person.

Couldn't take the Beard story about the Sons huh?

It's sad you - rightonthemoney don't care enough about kids than to say what you did about her kid- your a sad case- pick on a kid.

As I said, she is right- and has her rights also. Back off-
This is the end of it, write, say ,insult whatever- who cares. It shows your character.

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 5:19pm.

No Response


Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 5:26pm.

Now leave the poor guy alone would ya? None of us know you or your son. I am sure that you can be fine folks. None of us dislike the band. All of us know how hard they work.

You went after hammer because he had a few legitimate concerns - opinions at that - can't we all just get along?

The school system is great - but has flaws ... for one- they should help fund band and other athletics but they DO NOT. Should we not criticize the system? Ever?

You both need to work together for the good of the school. Sandy Creek (along with every other school) has enough problems without in-fighting.

Have a great year-

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 10:23am.

I've agreed with both of you and believe that neither will ever change positions. I believe that both are too stubborn to change positions and the conversation might be better off left here.

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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 11/30/2007 - 8:40am.

Does your Mom or relative do the web page for SCHS Band? If so- you should defend me all the way- you know what went on in the last 6 yrs. "These Band Directors can't fix it in 4 months- it will probably take at least 2-3 to clean up the mess that was allowed before. I just noticed her name is Ross? Do you know who that is- do you have other relatives in the band? One thing you learn in life since you are young- stand up for what is right. You only supported to a point, then stopped- they got to you. You are stronger than that.


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Fri, 11/30/2007 - 10:17am.

I cannot reveal any personal information.

Having said that, I'm very aware what has gone on the last six years since I was in the band close to that time.

I supported everything I thought was correct. I didn't support one person or group. I supported my standards. I will not acquiesce to a certain person just because they want me to.

I support you on some points and 1bighammer on others.
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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 11/30/2007 - 1:23pm.

I already know the answer- too bad you can't support positive Directors instead of ones that run it in the ground. My child plays, he wouldn't if the other Director was there.


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Fri, 11/30/2007 - 1:32pm.

I never said I don't support Gunter and Kelly. They are doing the best they can with what little they were given. True the previous directors ran it into the ground last year, but before that, the band was fun. There was so much drama last year that made most everyone in the band hate it. Therefore, only the diehard band lovers and freshmen are in it this year. I believe Gunter and Kelly can resurrect the band program. I even see Grand Champions at several competitions in their future.
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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

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Submitted by BPR on Wed, 11/28/2007 - 7:38am.

Daniel supports me - he thinks Mr. Gunter and Mr. kelly are great band directors.


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 8:07pm.

You know what they say about musicians:

They're usually the smartest people at each school.

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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:47pm.

I know who you are, think about it, this is so so funny. Tell bpr in person, you are probably too ashamed by now.

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:56pm.

I dated your mom for three years. Geez.

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:00pm.

IN HEAVEN. THAT IS WHERE SHE IS. I DON'T THINK YOU ARE THERE YET- GEEZ

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:15pm.

Did someone ask you where 'she' is kitty?

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:27pm.

What a joke the Beard's have only SONS! Gotta go, I can't stop laughing- I don't think I ever will.......

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:15pm.

Did someone ask you where 'she' is kitty?

Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 11:01am.

I was however in Concert and Marching band in High School so I do have first hand experience in that area.
I've talked to band parents and I know that things got pretty bad over the last few years. So What! Great band directors KNOW how to get the most out of whatever they are given to work with. So spare me the WOE is us crap. OK?

Yes, I am aware of the minor conflicts between advertisement and the band playing. But in Football's defense, they never know if the band is going to play or not.

And where did the Cheerleaders come into this discussion anyway? You mentioned the competition that was the Saturday after Haralson County. Well the Cheerleaders had a competition that Saturday as well, that they had to be at the school ready to leave by 8am, yet they did not leave 1/2 way through the game. Then the next week at Cass they had region competition on Saturday morning and had to be at the school by 6:45am, to drive back to Cartersville.

As for supporting the football team, if you don't play music or cheer with the crowd, then it’s not support.

You're crazy if you believe the Principal told ya'll to take off the third quarter so that football could get their advertisement in. The ads I saw only take about 2 minutes to complete and I believe they played BETWEEN quarters. And NO all other schools don't take the ENTIRE 3rd quarter off. Obviously you don't pay as much attention as you think.

I don't have anything personally against the band director he may be a great guy, but his marching band needed help. Oh, one more thing, maybe they could practice the Star Spangled Banner before next year so it doesn't sound like some animal in pain every time they play it. It was embarrassing.

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 7:02pm.

Why does the band take the third quarter off? Are they afraid they will cramp up or what?

They also take off about 1/2 of the second quarter - they go down to the track and "Tune Up"?! Why?? Are the Drums and Sousaphone and bells going to get out of tune from the stands to the field??

I have another question, why does the band get the concessions in Fayette County but they don't pay for clean up or field maintenance? That doesn't seem fair to me...does it to you?

Also, why is it that the band parents get so mad and rude if someone criticizes the band performance - but not when someone criticizes the football coaches - why are they so 'defensive'?

And because a blogger (1BigHammer) thinks the band could do 'better' he is a "Bad Parent". Wow, only in Fayette County.

Is this the behavior you model for your kids? The guy wants the band to do better .... so what?

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 1:24pm.

FOOTBALL TEAMS MAKE THEIR MONEY FROM EVERY TICKET SALE WHEN YOU WALK THOURGH THE GATE- WOW- WHAT HARD WORK?

While the Marching Band makes their from concessions- real work. Believe me you make enough money from the ticket sales to pay for the clean up fee- why don't you football and cheerleader parents clean it up and save alot of money- or are you too good?

Yes, 1bighammer is a bad parent- we uplift kids and their directors, Mr. Gunter and Mr. Kelly have been there what 4 months, come on you have more sense than that.

My behavoir is to not try and make snobs out of them- which that is what you both are doing- By the way the band has done better.

Why such defense did you pay that high fee for your son to stand on the sidelines and watch oh, but he gets to say I played football, or the silly cheerleaders who refuse to ride the bus with the ColorGuard girls- come on, please talk about a waste of money, a extra bus for cheerleaders???????????????????????????????????????????????


Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 1:45pm.

but alas we are not. We are just fans that call it like it is.

FOOTBALL TEAMS MAKE THEIR MONEY FROM EVERY TICKET SALE WHEN YOU WALK THOURGH THE GATE- WOW- WHAT HARD WORK?

Your the one that doesn't have a clue BPR or you would know better than to make a statement like the one above. You have no clue about gate receipts. The gate receipts go into the school's general fund, not to the Football team. Those are the same gate receipts that pay for the multiple NON-Revenue sports. And why do you continue to lump the Cheerleaders in with Football? They are not connected in any way.

I'm not a bad parent, but I'm not going to sit here and say everything is alright. You made the snob comment, I didn't.

I simply noted the error of your statements, no defense needed. You are the one SCREAMING AT ME!(that's what all caps means)

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:06pm.

YOU ARE THE ONE BASHING THE BAND DIRECTOR- I COULD SAY ALOT- LIKE HOW EMBARRASING THE GAME AGAINST MCINTOSH WAS- WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO GO ON.-

JUST BE AT THE NEXT BAND BOOSTER MEETING- AND WE WILL DISCUSS THIS LIKE ADULTS-

I BELIEVE IN MR. GUNTER AND MR. KELLY- I SUGGEST YOU GET TO KNOW THEM.

DO YOU COME TO OUR COMPETITIONS- NO YOU DON'T- SO STOP THE SUPPORT THE FOOTBALL BIT-

CHEERLEADERS- WASTE OF TAX DOLLARS REFUSE TO RIDE WITH COLOR GUARD

STOP THE BAND BASHING AND THAT WILL BE THE END TO IT- CONTINUE I WILL DEFEND MR. GUNTER AND MR. KELLY TO THE END.

BY THE WAY I AM CHECKING INTO A FUNDRAISING SITUATION THAT YOUR FOOTBALL TEAM THINKS IS SUCH A GOOD THING TO DO- YOU KNOW WHICH ONE.

BOLD LETTER ARE YOU DON'T HEAR WELL!


Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 4:06pm.

it when someone disagrees with you. I haven't insulted anyone, I've only given my opinion. I haven't called anyone names. You did that. You said something about not wanting to make the band seem snobby, and said the Cheerleaders were too good to ride the colour guard bus. You also siad someone called the band nerds, that wasn't me either.

Yes the McIntosh game was bad, yet the football team improved as the year progressed, didn't see that with the band.

First off you have no clue as to where I've been or what I've done so quit acting like you do. I've been supporting the programs at Sandy Creek High School so I have a right to have an opinion.

Hey, checkout that fundraising opportunity to the fullest extent. I really hope it works out for ya.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 4:45pm.

Please don't insult Mr. Gunter or Mr. Kelly or my child being what you think is a crappy band and this would have never happened.

Yeah, you insulted them, cheerleader will not ride with our Color Guard- why?

The band supports the football team, it does not matter if you think so or not.

Mr. Gunter and Mr.Kelly are the best, I will not let someone say they are not or that my child plays lousy.

See you at our Band Booster Meetings.

I have found out about the fund raising- huh- not something to proud of.


Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:16pm.

If it will make you feel better.

Ok, your child is the best musician on the planet. Mr. Gunter and Mr. Kelly are the best band directors on the planet. You are the best new band parent that any school has ever had on this or any other planet.

Why do you keep bringing up fundraising anyway?

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:19pm.

Come on, you don't know? Yeah, tell us another one.

Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:25pm.

us what bpr is talking about since you know so much.

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:27pm.

Excuse me- fundraising- you tell us. Maybe I don't know.

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:25pm.

Is this how band nerds fight?

You are both an embarrassment. Grow up.

No one said your kids were bad..... 1Hammer said the band could be 'better'.

You making fun of cheerleaders and athletes (that is NOT "supporting Kids" you idiot) and whining like you just got a wedgie from 1Hammer this morning makes you look like the 'B' movie stereotype you seem to want to avoid.

What are you going to do if bpr and I show up - call us a dumb-dumb and put a whoopee cushion under our seat?

Grow up and shut up you pathetic geek. You give all band parents a bad name.

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:34pm.

Learn how to read, I bought cheesecake from a band member? Your the Nerd- can't even read, my kids are not even old enough to go to school. Please learn to read.

Show up - I bet you won't- excuse me but don't call me the "B" movie sterotype you want to avoid- only you would know. Say the word- or do you know how? Or your afraid you will not get to print this, your such a looser calling names.

You are the one who needs to grow up fight his/her fights not in person- show up.

You tell me how they do their fund raisers I don't know. I don't have any hot cheerleaders or dumb jocks that live close to me. If I did I would show them how stupid you are and say sorry I can't buy from Nerds!

Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:47pm.

You may wish to ask an adult what a 'B' movie is. You obviously have no idea. If ignorance is bliss - you must be laughing your brain cell off.

For Kitty's enlightenment

Why are so many people from America so ignorant about your heritage and culture?

Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:34pm.

bpr keeps bringing up fundraising and I have no idea why. You told me to tell another one. Well I haven't a clue as to what bpr is referring to. So how do I comment on that.

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:42pm.

Since you have been around a while for the games, bands, etc. How does the football and cheerleaders do their fundraisers? There sure are alot of guys on the team, alot of fundraising that would have to be done- major bucks it looks like, so do you know how they afford all of this?

Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:02pm.

the football team and Cheerleaders are seperate entities. Neither of them get funds from the other. Football has fees and I would assume that Cheerleading does also. Doesn't the Band?

I know that neither the county nor the state contribute anything towards the daily operation of the teams. It's up to their respective Booster Clubs to fund them.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:07pm.

After the funds are split between the sports and cheerleading, the band gets a cut. It's about 1/12th of the total budget with the rest going to the sports and the school.

So yes, they're funded, but it's not much. If the band wanted to do a parade in another state, they'd have to fundraise much like other extracurriculars have to in order to go on trips.
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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

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Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:09pm.

I was approached by our neighbor who is a band member, my kids are younger, she sold cheesecake, candy things like that. I guess bpr wants to know what does the football and cheerleaders sell, or does she already know? Do you know what they sell?

Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 3:46pm.

all along.

Submitted by skyspy on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 4:11pm.

Look the band kids are great, and we need football so the underachiever kids have something to be good at. Can't we all just get along?????

Can we move on to the election next Tuesday Dec. 4th get out and vote PTC. Stop being so lazy. No matter who you vote for, get out and vote.

I have to go and do some yardwork before my neighbors call the cops.

Talk amongst yourselves or in dollars case......talk to yourself.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 4:49pm.

He/she makes a choice because I said our Band Directors are good and he/she tells me my child plays crappy- I think not- you would do the same for your child.

I have invited them to our Band Boosters meeting- ha if they show up.

Please don't attack my child's playing in the band or his Directors that work their self like crazy.


Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:05pm.

100% agree with all that you have said.

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 5:07pm.

Agree 100% with what you have said.

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Submitted by Git Real on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:40pm.

STOP IT BPR...YOU ARE A WHINER THAT IS MAKING IT EMBARASSING FOR US TO BE WHITE. HOW ARE WE GOING TO EXPLAIN YOU TO OUR FRIEND HACK?

This BPR person is such an envious person.


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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:52pm.

seems like you've beat this dead horse long enough, please stop the subject!


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:44pm.

I'm going home. When I get back on-line I hope you all had kissed and make-up. Smiling
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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:50pm.

You come a school that is proud and support their band- hey maybe my child should go there.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 4:42pm.

From what I have seen there is nothing wrong the SCHS' band. Yes there has been some upsets but you're in a position to work with the band directors to effect wonderful changes. I told you this before that you sounded like the ultimate band booster. Now, go forth and make it happen!!!!
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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 4:55pm.

Thanks for your encouragment- my child is the best, just like yours.
We will do it!


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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:41pm.

who's ; Hack????


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Submitted by Violetsunshine on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:16pm.

BY THE WAY I AM CHECKING INTO A FUNDRAISING SITUATION THAT YOUR FOOTBALL TEAM THINKS IS SUCH A GOOD THING TO DO- YOU KNOW WHICH ONE.

Maybe it's the one where you spend 10 hours outside on a work night at the concert (pouring rain, 100+ degrees) pouring beer for the jerkwad blowing smoke into your face. You're home by 1am, giving you 5 hours sleep. Makes concessions at Sandy Creek look like playtime. Enjoy.


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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:32pm.

You are close.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:27pm.

HiFy concerts at the Lakewood. No thanks!!!!!

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Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:39pm.

I don't know which is worse:
HiFi Concerts (Drunk men and women getting more drunk)
or
Cheersport Score Tallying (loud, shiny, needy little children [not trying to bash cheerleaders here])
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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:40pm.

My friend you know a little- huh????


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:46pm.

I've done many fundraisers (including the two I mentioned previously with cookie dough, cheesecake, selling pizza at BOA while also supporting the FCHS band a few years ago). Most of these were for the Chicago parade last year.

So yes, I've been around the block a few times.
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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:48pm.

I AM PROUD OF YOUR FUNDRAISING!


Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 7:02pm.

McDonald's All-American Fund raiser! Yea! LOL. That's hilarious. bpr, I bet your child is just the 'bestest' fund raiser ever! Ha! What a world.... okay bpr, you make me embarrassed to be white! LOL

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:44pm.

Thank you.

I hope your child gets to experience something like the Chicago trip last year (or were they there too?). This is one thing the prior directors were able to accomplish successfully.

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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

Submitted by bobcat on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:49pm.

What is it with this person, it is the same person, reread and you will see. Sad, funny, etc.

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Submitted by Violetsunshine on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 1:36pm.

"FOOTBALL TEAMS MAKE THEIR MONEY FROM EVERY TICKET SALE WHEN YOU WALK THOURGH THE GATE- WOW- WHAT HARD WORK?"

FYI-this money goes to the athletic directors fund, not a football fund. It's then dispersed to all sports. So, football gate $ is funding baseball, volleyball, track, cross country, wrestling, basketball, etc.


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Submitted by Fyt35 on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 1:44pm.

That is correct violet, bpr you are misinformed on this one. The football gate goes towards the general athletic fund of the school.


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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:13pm.

I will inform you how they raise their money- in time.


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 10:37pm.

The battery (drums) and winds and color guard warm up and tune so that they can put on their best performance each game and take third quarter off to pack/relax/get hydrated.

Band parents (mainly SCHS, but others as well) feel that their kids get the shaft of other sports (yes I implied marching band is a sport), which is true most of the time.

Band Parents don't care about the football program as much as the football parents do.

Band parents run concessions everywhere in Georgia, not just Fayette County. This is to accrue revenue so as to pay for entrance fees for competitions and bus fees (for football games and competitions) and other fees that come up throughout the year.

They also utilize some of this revenue to save up for new uniforms, instruments, parades, and other performances.

While we're on the subject, go watch the Sandy Creek band in the Tyrone Christmas Parade on December 13th after dark on mainstreet.

If you have other questions let me know.
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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 5:16pm.

Mr. Gunter (the new band director at SCHS) is doing as best a job with the band that he can since the previous band director ran it into the ground last year.

That being said, let me address your complaints:

"They play very little during games, play at inappropriate times, and the musical choices [don't] get the crowd pumped up"

1) Gunter tries to get the attention of the band students in order to play but they do not pay attention to him. When the band is finally ready to play, they have missed the snap and would get a penalty for the football team if they do play.

Also, what is your definition of a song that gets the crowd "pumped up"? One thing that might help would be getting more students to join the band to make them louder.

Next "Take a few minutes after 1/2 time, 5 at the most..."

2) These kids blow their lungs out 1 and 2 quarters and during halftime. After their performance, the percussion packs up (except for their equipment needed for the stand) and they take a quarter off. At most, they get 8 minutes off if concession stand traffic is subtracted. The crowds (especially those of you who take half-time off to not watch the bands) get 20 minutes off as well as the football team.

3rd quarter is the time when the bands can rest and get refreshed for 4th quarter much like halftime is for football players.

"The band left at halftime in a pivotal game at Haralson County"

The score of the game shouldn't depend on whether the band is there or not. A true football team can win with or without a band. That being said, the bus drivers for the band got lost before the Haralson County game, making them show up late. They had to leave at halftime because : 1) they wouldn't have done a performance anyway (Senior night or homecoming at Haralson county that night) and 2) they had to leave for Warner Robbins at 8 a.m. the next day for a competition. Competitions for bands are like football playoffs (in case you didn't know).

Also, it was mandatory for all students that were in town to attend the game. The students that were out of town for the break had to have a parent sign a note stating that the student would be out of town. They weren't in uniform because North Hall originally said that their band would be out of uniform also only to change their mind at 6 p.m., way too late for SCHS to suit up.

Hope this clarifies a few things.
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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07, Drumline

Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 12:23pm.

Gunter tries to get the attention of the band students in order to play but they do not pay attention to him. When the band is finally ready to play, they have missed the snap and would get a penalty for the football team if they do play.

Exactly why must Mr. Gunter "get their attention"? They should be paying attention to him or the Drum Majorette at all times. Sounds to me like he needs to tighten the discipline up a bit more.

Also, what is your definition of a song that gets the crowd "pumped up"? One thing that might help would be getting more students to join the band to make them louder.

Gee I don't know, maybe something with a little "umph" to it. I don't know the names of the songs, but I hear the other teams bands playing them so I know there are some out there. Even a great percussion cadence would be a welcome addition. We've had them before...Did they entire percussion section graduate with you Daniel?

2) These kids blow their lungs out 1 and 2 quarters and during halftime.

You must be talking about some other band, because Sandy Creek's band hasn't blown their lungs out for 1 and 2 quarters at a game this year. I don't know how many people I heard actually ask " Why is our band here if all they are going to do is sit there?"

3rd quarter is the time when the bands can rest and get refreshed for 4th quarter much like halftime is for football players.

Get Refreshed from what? I could understand if they played a bunch during the game ...but they don't! And their half time show is what, 7 minutes at the most? I do believe they deserve a break, but not the ENTIRE3rd quarter.

The score of the game shouldn't depend on whether the band is there or not. A true football team can win with or without a band.

No, the score of the game shouldn't depend on whether the band is there or not. But you and I both know that the team feeds off the energy of the crowd. The crowd and band should feed off of each other. It’s hard to do that if the band isn't playing or isn’t even there!

That being said, the bus drivers for the band got lost before the Haralson County game, making them show up late. They had to leave at halftime because : 1) they wouldn't have done a performance anyway (Senior night or homecoming at Haralson county that night) and 2) they had to leave for Warner Robbins at 8 a.m. the next day for a competition. Competitions for bands are like football playoffs (in case you didn't know).

So what if they weren't going to perform, is that the only reason the band exists? The cheerleaders had a competition the next day that they had to be at the school early for too, they didn't leave.

Also, it was mandatory for all students that were in town to attend the game. The students that were out of town for the break had to have a parent sign a note stating that the student would be out of town. They weren't in uniform because North Hall originally said that their band would be out of uniform also only to change their mind at 6 p.m., way too late for SCHS to suit up.

As with all other Sports (as you labeled marching band) there are commitments to the team that are made before the season begins. If you can't commit to being there for the entire season, post season too, then maybe you shouldn't be a part of the team/band. Parents need to adjust their schedules accordingly and make sure their child can live up to their commitment.

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Submitted by BPR on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 2:11pm.

SORRY, I TOOK CARE OF THOSES NASTY SONGS THAT WERE BEING PLAYED BEFORE THE GAME OVER THE INTERCOM - THE PRINCIPAL DID IT. WHAT KIND OF UMP DO YOU WANT?


Submitted by 1bighammer on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 3:42pm.

those songs. Thanks you for getting the Principal to take care of that. I didn't like them either, they made SCHS look like a bunch of thugs.

Upmh in the way of a peppy fight type song. Maybe Techs "Rambln Wreck" Or "Glory Glory to ole Georgia" something like that.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 6:46pm.

The SCHS fight song should be rewritten in form of Ramblin Wreck or the other one (sorry, as a Tech student, I cannot name it). We've been trying to fix it for years.

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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Tue, 11/27/2007 - 1:07pm.

1) When Gunter and Kelly came in, the discipline left with Eubanks and Rayner (the previous band directors). They have not done a thing to enforce discipline and this has resulted in the band not playing as frequently. Also, the sound booth at home football games does get advertisement and music happy because they cannot hear the band and feel that there should be louder music.

The majority of the percussion section left/got promoted to Drum Majorette/graduated. This year's line is young and inexperienced. Hopefully, some of the cadences submitted to Gunter will be applied next year. (yes, students/alumni can submit cadences to Gunter and he'll analyze them to see if they're worthy of being played

2) When I was in the band, we played every play for 1st and the half of 2nd quarter that we were in the stands. It's a discipline problem as to why they don't play as frequently this year. The third quarter break is too long. I frequently got back with 4 minutes left in the quarter after packing the truck/band room and visiting concessions. I do not know why the directors do not shorten this break.

3)I think SCHS really felt the brunt of the impact of the band during last year's first round playoff game against Flowery Branch when the band couldn't go due to bus issues. Yes, the football team feeds off the energy of the crowd. If more students would join band, then there would have to be more discipline which would lead to more playing (in my opinion)

4)A lot of students join band because of the football games and don't want to do the competitions. However, the competitions make it more worthwhile and all of the hard work. Each game is a practice for the competition performance. So, in a sense, yes, the band exists to perform with a night job of playing at football games. Much like cheerleaders.
As for leaving early, the band parents pressured Gunter to leave early since they had to drive down to Warner Robbins the next morning.

Why the cheerleaders did not leave I do not know, nor do I know where their competition was the next day.

5)Yes, there's a commitment made. If these students had missed a practice during the season, they would have been sidelined that weekend. However, this was a playoff game (2nd round) and many put faith in the hopes that SCHS didn't win. If the team had won, they wouldn't have been able to attend the next game.

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"Triangle Park"? Give me a break.
They should have fixed Shamrock first.

SCHS '07. Drumline.

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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 6:17pm.

THEY ARE NOT IN THE BAND- THEY ARE A JOCK, OR CHEERLEADER THAT PAID THEIR BIG BUCKS TO PLAY. WHAT A JOKE, HA! IT'S SAD THAT SOME OF THESE FOOTBALL PLAYERS NEVER STEP FOOT ON THE GROUND- CHEERLEADERS- I CAN'T EVEN HEAR THEM- OR DID I FORGET THEY ARE TOO PRETTY TO HEAR?

YOU ARE A SAD PARENT TO SAY ANYTHING- BY THE WAY I KNOW WHO YOU ARE. IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING SO SAY BE AT THE NEXT BAND BOOSTERS, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE A TALK WITH YOU!


Submitted by RightOnTheMoney on Mon, 11/26/2007 - 7:27pm.

Seek help immediately. Bad mouthing kids, be they "Jocks" or "Cheerleaders", is a bit over the top don't you think?

Funny thought though ... a "Jock" or "Cheerleader" 'posing' as a Band Nerd. LOL

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