Isn't it amazing how many people can't remember past two cars whose turn it is. I also love it when you get to the intersection just before the other guy, but he never quite stops and rolls through the intersection.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

The intersection of Crosstown and PTC Pky. with the two yields and two left turn lanes.

For some reason most people seem to have no concept of how to handle a right-of-way situation when a left turn lane is in the mix. Then again, I’ve seen three cars in a row just totally ignore the stop sign all together and follow one right after the other right on across the pky. as if there was no stop sign.

The common misconception around here at a four-way-stop is “I stopped”, almost, therefore “I can go”.

Let's not slam people's driving, um, abilities. Sometimes we all get distracted. Some of it is very funny, especially after school when the soccer moms are extra distracted and rushed to do 8 things at once. Whewww get off the road and out of their way.

to properly criticize soccer moms and their lack of driving abilities.

There just isn't enough time in the day to obey all those pesky laws when you have three kids, four sports practices, the dog and cell phone calls to your girlfriends all in your minivan doing 60 on PTC parkway when your tennis lesson and hair appointments are both scheduled while the “deadbeat” is off flying a plane so he can pay for it all.

"It’s all HIS fault officer."

Nice one!!! We in the industry refer to it as flying the bus. And the "flying" part is mostly done by the autopilot.
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Think about how well that would work.

How do you expect a rotary (round about, city circle) to work when local folks have never seen one (the one at the avenue doesn't count) and can't figure out a 4-way stop. Yes, a rotary was explored years ago for PKWY and Walt Banks, never got too far. A rotary requires about four acres to construct, making it expensive and it has a finite capacity on its taffic count. Unlike a light, a rotary cannot be adjusted over time to accommodate more traffic. They are quaint, but an old fashioned, low tech, rigid answer. This is why the concept was scratched.

I am mildly opposed to a light at this intersection. I recuse myself from this because I only hit this intersection during off peak times and know how to avoid it (and do) if necessary.

{or rotary as the English refer to it} once proposed as a solution to the Walt Banks/Parkway intersection? I seem to remember that. And there was an article in the "fishwrapper" over the weekend on traffic circles. Seems like they might, indeed, work. Keep the faith.

Democracy is not a spectator sport.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.