Coach seeking student's nude pic gets $100K bond

Fri, 11/02/2007 - 2:48pm
By: The Citizen

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Heintz has resigned from his position at Whitewater High School

A Whitewater High School assistant football coach arrested for one felony count of sexual exploitation of a minor, has been granted a $100,000 bond by a Fayette County Superior Court Judge.

The investigation into Coach Harry Heintz began with an allegation that he sent a text message to a student at the school, asking the student to send him a nude photo, sheriff's officials said Thursday morning.

Heintz, who taught 10th grade World History and also a weightlifting class, had the student's cellphone number in his possession, police said.

He was not immediately arrested because "the complaint is seemingly a school misconduct issue," sheriff's officials said late Thursday morning.
Heintz resigned Tuesday citing personal reasons, said school spokesperson Melinda Berry-Driesbach.

A letter notifying parents of the resignation was sent home, but the letter did not mention the allegations police have been investigating Heintz for, she said.

Meanwhile, the sheriff's investigation "will endeavor to make sure that this behavior did not transpire with other students," officials said.

Heintz is married to a teacher at Booth Middle School and formerly served in the Army in Iraq, according to information on the school's website.

A long-term substitute teacher has been named to take over Heintz’s teaching responsibilities and the school board is seeking resumes for the permanent position, Berry-Driesbach said. The substitute has a bachelor of arts degree in history and also has passed the Georgia teacher’s exam known as Praxis, she added.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 11/03/2007 - 5:49pm.

Did Mrs. Git see my response and did you have a good shower?
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Submitted by Git Real on Sat, 11/03/2007 - 8:54pm.

We didn't try to conserve water. But, you do gotta appreciate it when your sweetie is cold when it's bedtime. Eye-wink

Hey!!! Double and Triple Congrats to Fayette County High last night. Awesome job. Let's hope they can keep rolling on. Hutch really blew it on his prediction didn't he? Eye-wink He was whopping couple of points off. LOL!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Sun, 11/04/2007 - 11:57am.

In the immortal words of Maxwell Smart "missed it by that much"

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Submitted by Cyclist on Sat, 11/03/2007 - 9:03pm.

I'm taking him to Vegas. Eye-wink

Many thanks!!! Over the last 3 years, I don't we scored a total of 41 points. This just, well it is just short of amazing. You have a good evening. I'm off to St Louis tomorrow afternoon for some quality time.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 9:28pm.

No but I will. Good Night.

Oh, Hello Mrs. Git. Thanks for letting play tonight!!!!!
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Submitted by watchdog111 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:38pm.

Gerard ,you seem like a nice WHS kid and I applaud you for taking a stand and exercising your First Amendment Rights- Kudos- You're right. WHS has some really good teachers, it has all the technology a school could ask for and what a facility. I know because my wallet hurts every time I think about it. What WHS lacks is what your argument lacks, support from the top down. – And by the way, Stillions is definitely not your “principle,” you can’t be if you have non nor is he really the “principal” you think he is. You need to do some research. Situations like the one that just happened with Heinz can happen anywhere, just like the situation with the kid a couple of weeks ago who threatened to set his grandparents house on fire and kill WHS students(that part was left out of the news report), just like the situation with the WHS administrator making a poor decision, drinking and driving, just like the out of county student coming on campus with weapons last year, just like the situation that happened the year before with the misguided student who brought all his weapons on campus and just like the incident with the big drug and alcohol busts of WHS kids two years in a row. You're right any of this could happen anywhere. But I have to wonder, why is all this happening at one school only open for its 5th year? Why is the supposedly best school in the state ranked third and a close tie in test scores to another one of Fayette's school who doesn't have near the advantages of Whitewater. Of course you like it there, who wouldn’t as a student—Everyone passes don’t they? It comes from the top down and that’s the problem. Stillions is the antithesis of an effective administrator. He preaches one thing and does another. When it comes to the truth and cover-up, he and Clinton could tie for the best spin doctors on a story. Maybe that’s why he likes to wear a red nose-- Come on the guy’s idol is a socialist named Patch Adams ( very different form the guy Robin William portrayed) Yes, WHS has a couple --- OK two decent administrators, but for the rest in the nest—Let’s just say that WHS could be the school it was meant to be if the school board stood up and finally said, “Enough is enough!” Stillions needs to go. The situation in and of itself is sickening with the allegation against Heinz, but what is far more sickening is the pervasiveness of problems plaguing this school and the ones that are still covered up remaining to be "exposed". It comes from the top and who’s at the top needs to go.

Submitted by bobby21 on Wed, 11/07/2007 - 11:25pm.

Watchdog I totally agree with you.

Submitted by words on Wed, 11/07/2007 - 11:30pm.

You get mad because someone is "attacking" Mcintosh by putting in wrong information. Then you go and agree with someone who is actually attacking Whitewater verbally. Do you see a problem here?

Submitted by words on Wed, 11/07/2007 - 11:30pm.

You get mad because someone is "attacking" Mcintosh by putting in wrong information. Then you go and agree with someone who is actually attacking Whitewater verbally. Do you see a problem here?

Submitted by Gerard9 on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 3:51pm.

The first thing I have to say is yes I did spell Principal wrong thanks for correction. Secondly, your tacky little insults are not even close to being fact. Thirdly, just because some people make mistakes at my school, does not mean we are a bad school. Why don't you try being in charge of over 1500 students and over 100 teachers and faculty members? I'm sure you'd have a little trouble too. One last thing what coach heintz did was wrong, yes. He was the adult and he should not have solicited this young girl. I really do hope we can agree on that at least.

Submitted by thebiggun on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 9:45pm.

Someone needs to ask Stillions about another cover up he took part in while he was at McIntosh. Another coach, more young girls, and his ability to cover up sexual misconduct. Someone needs to start asking questions about what is going on at the Board of Education. The safety of our children is most important and sexual problems with coaches he hires to make himself look good, need to be exposed.

Submitted by wheeljc on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 10:08am.

This has been a sad week for Fayette County Schools. The incident at a local Middle School (knife incident); the arrests of the two girls associated with MHS, and the later 'rumors'; the rumors at FCHS; and then the pathetic situation at WHS. Could see why many parents would start looking to do some home schooling, or looking to get a second job to send their kids to a private school!!

Sadly, there does appear to be a larger problem in play. Is the value set right across the administrative spectrum? Are administrators listening for what they do not want to hear? Are they fearful of hearing what the do not want to hear? And, an even harder question, are they the right individuals with the correct skill sets for the tasks at hand??

From comments on this board that would appear from students, get the distinct idea that respect is lacking in at least one of the high schools, and that the students have a much better feel as to what is going on, than do the administrators! This could become a worse situation, if not corrected immediately.

While this is a very sad and emotional week for many students and parents, others who live and pay taxes in Fayette County are hurt. There are many homes on the market in this area. In the past, the Fayette County school system has been marketed as the best in the state -- prompting individuals to buy homes in Fayette! A few more weeks like the past one with front page headlines in the AJC will probably cause some of those homes for sale to stay on the market for a longer period. This is not just a problem for the BOE or administrators!

Must admit that we are pleasantly surprised that we have not heard a lot of psycho babble on 'bringing in counselors' -- which has now become overused in so many of the public schools.

That being said, is it not time for an outsider to take a look from the top down -- including what the elected BOE does and fails to do?? In many corporations when you have a series of problems as observed this week, you do not turn to the fox and ask him to check himself!!!! Do not need more educators looking at one another and asking for more money. They have the money -- they may not know how to expend what they have.

Submitted by PS1441 on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 4:29pm.

I missed the knife incident at a middle school. Which school?

Submitted by wheeljc on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 4:46pm.

Police: Booth student makes knife threat
Wed, 10/31/2007 - 2:56pm
By: John Munford

A Booth Middle School student was arrested Wednesday after he pulled a knife from his backpack and threatened to stab another student.

The other student was not present when the threat was made in the gym area, police said.

The student was charged with possession of a weapon on school grounds, police said. The blade of the knife was 3.75 inches long.

The incident was discovered by a teacher who overheard the students who heard the threat discuss it. School administrators then spoke with the suspect and had him open the backpack where the knife was found.

Submitted by PS1441 on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 4:52pm.

Thanks. I only get to the citizen a few times a week, and have to weed through all the ads and junk stories to find the real news. Appreciate the heads up.

Submitted by Split Decision on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 10:26pm.

quit being a poser, you're not a thug, nor do you speak the way you're posting (and you're not black).

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 9:41pm.

No matter which school you go to, your typing/spelling skills still wouldn't improve.

Even us Tech kids can spell better than that.

Submitted by WHS concerned mother on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 10:02pm.

Like being a TECH kid means anything. WHATEVER!!!!

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 10:06pm.

what do YOU think I meant by it?

Cause I was clearly responding to the stereotype that Tech kids can't write good english.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 9:45pm.

He's a hoax and I'll bet he isn't even black. Did Tech win tonight?

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 6:46am.

No win for Tech, VT 27 - GT 3. You are correct, the game was on a 'school night' what did we expect!


Submitted by Daniel Ross on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 9:49pm.

Last I checked it was 27-3 with the Hokies in the lead in the 4th quarter. Therefore, I doubt Tech can pull it off. For a Thursday night game, one can't help but wonder what class these guys have a test in tomorrow. Probably DSP lab or Differential Equations.

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Submitted by moviecrazy on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:56pm.

Now most of you might disagree with me on what I about to say, but I think that both the teacher and student are at fault for this crime because I am sure that there was some "foreplay" if you will before Coach Heintz got arrested. I dont think he just sent a student a text asking for nude pictures. I could be wrong though Laughing out loud

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Submitted by anonymous100 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 10:37pm.

I completely agree with Moviecrazy. It definitly takes two to tango and i feel like both parties are at fault. Heintz is a good man and i dont feel like people should be saying bad things about him.. and especially dont bring his wife into this... that is childish. So all in all.. i agree with moviecrazy.

Submitted by Emma Bovary on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:39pm.

There was certainly some "foreplay" as you term it. Most pedophiles select their victims by type and then groom that victim over a period of time. He probably established some form of emotional intimacy with this girl--and we all know that kids love attention--and then he eased her into a relationship that he felt was secure enough to ask her to send the photos. From what I have heard from former colleagues of Mr. Heintz, he will likely use evidence from that relationship to say that the girl was the aggressor. (I'm sure this was not the first exchange of messages between these two.) Regardless of his possible justification, or the justification of others (the "She wanted it, too" crowd), I feel certain that this man knew that what he was doing was unethical. That was probably part of the attraction.

Submitted by fayettesince71 on Mon, 11/05/2007 - 3:27am.

but you don't know this girl. I'm not from the "she was asking for it" genre. My daughter stopped associating with her months ago because of her lying and underhanded ways. Millions of Coaches deal with this type of activity and don't end up in Coach H's situation so he must be guilty of something. I just hope the truth emerges about what it is, no matter how hard it is to believe

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:07pm.

Perhaps the girl thought it was innocent flirting until the advances might have escalated. Who knows? But Horny Harry is the adult in this situation and he had a sacred responsibility to teach and look after the children in his care. Look what he's done to this girl, his wife, his family, and possibly others.

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Submitted by another concern... on Tue, 11/06/2007 - 11:53am.

I just read this where someone said "get a rope" for coach heintz. Who made this person a spokes person for the rest of us. Was this person elected to be our judge jury and executioner. I dont remember voting in that election or are they self appointed. The truth is this person must have all the facts surrounding this case and is not sharing with the rest of us because they have already thrown the rope over the limb. Why dont you go and get him yourself and try to put a rope around his neck. Just to take a guess you dont have the guts. Maybe he did something wrong maybe he didnt. Thats why we have a TRIAL.Why do you get to decide. I have seen girls at whitewater with pajama pants on to go to class. I have seen them in mini skirts that could be worn as a bandana they were so short. Why do you think they do that. So people will look, stupid.You make it sound like all teenage girls are just innocent little lambs and do no wrong.Most of them may be. But some of them like the attention.Some of them will do whatever it takes to get the attention. After picking my kids up from school i was behind a car and saw a young lady take her shirt off in the car in front of me on hwy 85 with a big grin on her face and engage in a sexual act with the driver. I guess she didnt know that she was doing anything wrong either. Maybe we should have gotten her tag number and forwarded that to you so you can start tying another rope ,after all you ARE the judge jury and executioner,However,I'm not saying coach heintz is a saint but i bet the girls involved arent saints either. You probably arent either. Let me guess you never drank,smoked, used profanity,or lusted and ofcourse waited till you got married to surrender "yourself" to someone.. We should all strive to be just like you PERFECT.I bet you were the life of your party. These girls know right from wrong just as heints does. So why dont we throw a bunch of ropes over the limb since we're in a crucifying mood. You are finding this guy guilty, so why dont we call the courthouse and cancel the investigation and trial and let them know that you have already ruled. You probably arent perfect and have done some things you shouldnt have so let us know what they are so we can all get together and start tying another rope just for you and start looking for the perfect limb. People like you set in judgement of others because it takes the spotlite off of you.Idiot

Submitted by Eliza on Tue, 11/06/2007 - 1:16pm.

I am never one of the people who suggests things like "get a rope" or "castrate him" etc., so I am not addressing that part of your post.

What I want to tell you is that IT DOES NOT MATTER what a teenager does in the way of flirting, showing off, dressing seductively, etc., etc. Everyone knows that many young girls are far from "innocent lambs". IT DOES NOT MATTER.

It is NEVER, NEVER, NEVER okay for any adult to take them up on whatever offer they are making or SEEM to be making. It is especially horrendous for a teacher, coach, or other person in authority. The behavior of the child or teen in no way excuses the adult.

It makes me sick when people say things about the behavior of the child or teen in cases like this. It at least IMPLIES that some of the fault is with the young person - and it is not.

Submitted by d.smith700 on Tue, 11/06/2007 - 3:26pm.

In that case I do not understand all of the court trials of teenagers who have committed crimes!
Are we not to ever consider anything a teenager (13-19) does as anything wrong as far as punishment goes?
Or are you only talking about teenage girls flirting with their bodies?
This is not to suggest that the older person is innocent due to temptation of a loose girl. The parents should stop the seductive dressing and the flirtatious actions of some girls and boys, or accept the consequences.
Adults bring it on mostly by the way they dress and act, and our Hollywood idiots who in an effort to get rich, and attention, will do anything to sell themself.
Also, should your son, if you have one, be as guilty as his female teacher who falls for him in a big way? Any difference there?
in each case both the teacher and the student should be disciplined, except in this case where only verbal and visual acts of courting occurred, I'm not sure about whether one or the other should get jail time!
It is difficult for schools now to hire highly reputable and competent teachers and administrators. Not so much due to money but due to their hands being tied by rules and regulations as to what they can do or can't do.

Submitted by Eliza on Tue, 11/06/2007 - 5:13pm.

Several people have posted negative statements about the girl who apparently received the alleged message - at least one has referred to her by a very derogatory name. The people making those posts seem to think that her behavior somehow reduces the guilt of the accused.

In my opinion, it does not. As timeforachange said above, "Teenage girls and boys have had crushes on teachers since the beginning of time. I don't care if she walked into his class naked. He is the adult in a position of trust. As a high school teacher male or female you have to know how do deal with these situations when they arise. Do not become a teacher if you cannot accept that position of trust."

My entire post was about the guilt of an adult in a sex-related crime with a child or teen. Your post addressed several things that don't seem to relate to what I posted - for instance, about teens being charged with crimes? As far as I know, the girl in question has not been charged with any crime.

Submitted by Big Bear on Tue, 11/06/2007 - 6:40pm.

I'm sure, by now, that everyone is aware that the inappropriate behaviors of the coach were reported to Ms. Pina last winter. The question is: Why wasn’t anything done at that time? Does anyone have any information regarding this? I find myself becoming increasingly angry the more I think of it. I’ve also heard that the coach was not a certified teacher. Does anyone know anything about this? As the father of a WHS student, I have a right to know EXACTLY what is going on at that school. I would like some answers.

Submitted by fay79isus on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:01pm.

Isn't this the same high school where the kid brought an arsenal to school and he got kiddie camp?

Y'all's high school is a mess ! If I were the principal I would consider another career path. Like WWF or something.

Submitted by Gerard9 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:40pm.

First off I would like to clearly state that I am a student. I was in Coach Heintz class. I do not know if he is guilty or innocent. I will tell you one thing though. I am quite tired of all of these fictional accusations about my administators. The priciple and Vice principles of WHS have always and will always keep us the students as their first priority. Heintz is neither innocent nor guilty until proven by a court of law, Remember that. Every class period was notified by the principle himself of what was happening. We don't know the whole story. We're pretty much just going off of assumptions and the press. If Heintz did this then by all means yes he should face punishment, if he didn't then people should just leave it alone. To whom ever made these allegations my heart goes out to you, and I really hope you are telling the truth. For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
Sincerely, a student

Submitted by whsdad on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 11:42am.

You said; "Heintz is neither innocent nor guilty until proven by a court of law"

Incorrect. Heintz is guilt or innocent at this very moment. The Government, however, cannot deprive Heintz of his right to life, liberty, or property with first proving his guilt. Since the public at large is bound by such a standard, they are free to determine his guilt or innocence at will and as they see fit.

Is jumping to conclusions smart? No. Nor is risking your families safety by assuming that a potential predator is innocent until the process works it's way through.

Submitted by Daniel Ross on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:06pm.

Last week it was the Tyrone election. This week it was the McIntosh threat along with the WHS, Booth, and FCHS threats. Now it's Coach Heintz's alleged text message. There will always be something in the media for people to comment on. Just weather it out and something will come along soon to replace it. People just want to blame the school system or a school for something that happens rather than waiting for the evidence. The only thing with WHS is that one of your assistant principals was found guilty of driving a golf cart while under the influence. Now people are calling for Principal Stillons' unjust retirement.

Just wait it out.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:14pm.

It's not a big deal. Really. Hell, it's only attempted child molestation and who knows.... she might have like it. It's not like he killed anybody or anything like that. We've got the Genarlow case being thrown out. That surely means it's ok for us adults to make 15 year old children our sexual prizes. And hey! These girls have gotta grow up sometime, don't they? Plus, if it's okay with our local DA then what the hay? Puzzled

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Submitted by Daniel Ross on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:43pm.

I'm not condoning his alleged actions. I'm just explaining to the new kid how y'all work around here.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:55pm.

Dude, We have a pretty good record of filtering information and figuring out who the bad guys are before they are even convicted. Smiling

In fact we've not been wrong yet. The only reason the bad guys hit the streets after we've convicted them before they go to court is because of our DA Mr. Softy and the stinky plea deals that are cut between him, our judges, and and a few slick criminal defense trial lawyers.

That's how we work around here. If Horny Harry is exonerated then I'll eat crow. Until then.... I'll strut around with my chest poked out due to the Citizen Blogger's Accuracy Record. Eye-wink

I have to be honest with you though. I wish it were the case of me eating crow. Sad

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Submitted by Sniffles on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:23pm.

Your rhetoric to the contrary, the "Romeo and Juliet" exception enacted by the Georgian legislature makes a misdemeanor for adults to have sex with minors provided the sex was consensual and the adult was no more than three years older than the juvenile in question.

So if you're over 20, you're still subject to the same felony statutes.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:30pm.

So if you're over 20, you're still subject to the same felony statutes.

Technically you are right. But, it's just a matter of time before our Supreme Court Judges Sears and Hunstein allow us old guys access to the "little girls".

Ick... Shocked

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Submitted by WHS concerned mother on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:24pm.

The teachers at Whitewater are great and we love them. We know first hand that Stillion's tells lies and then tries to cover them up. That's the problem with people in our society today, they will not stand up for whats right if it means they may look bad or hurt someone else's feelings. We love the coaching staff, we feel they are the best, obviously, Harry is innocent until proven guilty, however, it appears that the evidence has been revealed. By the way, it was a girl! In regards to Tavoris Dixon, what Harry did for him was a great thing, "T" had been in our school system for several years, it's not like he came from another county and a home was provided for him to live in so he could come to our school, but a home was provided so he could STAY in our school.

Submitted by Gerard9 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:45pm.

Mr. stillions relayed as much info. as he could, he explained to us that there were laws in place that forced him from giving us a complete explanation.

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Submitted by matildagene on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:36pm.

Mr Smola will send you one of himself if you will vote for him!


Submitted by WHS concerned mother on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:11pm.

I beg your pardon pandapace....I speak from experience when I state that the office administration at WHS is lacking when it comes to the concern of students!!!! It's more "let's keep a good image" than do the right thing for the right person. I could provide great detail, but won't. Regardless, that comment before about Harry's own personal decision has nothing to do with the staff at WHS. He is "supposed" to be an adult making adult decisions....but obviously...he's not capable. In addition, I have witnessed for myself with my very own eyes, he was a little "TOO" friendly with the young ladies of WHS.

Submitted by Gerard9 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:17pm.

I am a student there, and I think I've never felt safer than when I am at WHS. First off you should ask your child how safe they feel at our school, and if they don't feel safe then maybe you should consider home schooling. I was in coach heintz's class, personally I think that we should leave the accusation to the law. Just because of a FEW people's mistakes, that does not mean that we are a bad school, things happen. Oh and one more thing please do not insult my administrators, I bet your child did not tell you this, but principle Stillions came to heintz class every period and explained to us what had happened.

Submitted by studentwhs101 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:03pm.

I speak from experience as well. Being a current student at Whitewater I witness the lack of concern coming from the students and the ever growing concern coming from the teachers. The lack of concern from the students is the result of growing sexuality in teenagers. to some girls now a days, a grown man asking for a picture is far from an issue. (not saying that it's like that for all of us, but for a select few it is)

and i never had coach heintz for a teacher so i wouldn't be able to say whether or not him getting "too friendly" with his students was accurate but i have heard that from other students. but please don't get me wrong, i'm not standing up for the man in any way. i am, however, standing up for Mr. Stillions and the school in a whole.

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Submitted by matildagene on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:12pm.

If he coaches, it could be either, right? I do agree with the guilty till proven otherwise, but he was the teacher/coach who went out of his way for the Clayton county student to attend to play football if I remember. Since no one did anyting to him for that, maybe he thought he had a free pass.


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Submitted by Acey1 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:01pm.

thought much of Harry. I feel so bad for his wife (who I think is a wonderful teacher and person), and the kids he taught and coached. He has also harmed his peers at WHS. What a dirtbag.


Submitted by WHS concerned mother on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:06pm.

Yes, I feel bad for his wife. People need to realize that these types of things happen EVERYWHERE! It just so happens that it was exposed at WHS......we all know that top administration is lacking there. It's more "let's make ourselves look good" rather than what's right for the students. I have a prime example that I could give details on...but I won't!

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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:47pm.

Why did the paper name her? I think that's poor judgment and cruel. I feel sure she didn't want him to do this or condone his actions. Kick his buns to the curb!

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:36pm.

I agree Enigma. If all of this is true then there will probably be other victims that will come forward. I feel deeply for his wife who is also a victim in this (alledged) crime. Not to mention if she has children (additional victims). Shocked

Gee, I wonder why they knocked the Whitewater High School website down?

On a side note.... You've been missed Enigma. Hope all is well for you and yours. Smiling

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Submitted by slider on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 5:40pm.

AKA "Dirty Harry"


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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:43pm.

I hope all is well with you and the 'old gang' give them all my regards- I just had to chime in on this one. My property values are stagnate at best right now and this clown running Whitewater isn't helping me any. Dirty Harry indeed, you always were funny - for a lib I mean Eye-wink

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Submitted by slider on Mon, 11/05/2007 - 2:11pm.

Ouch! Must change avatar SOON!


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:15pm.

It's so good to hear from you!!! When you and Mixer can, please send some rain our way from Ohio.
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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 5:14pm.

What the hell is going on at Whitewater High School? When I left Fayetteville/PTC things were getting bad but this is pitiful!

All I hear about from there is players out of district, kids with guns, drugs, men from Clayton county coming to pich up girls on campus, kids on special permission, administrators with DUIs, slanderous 'run throughs' and ring ceremonies designed to rub in the face of the state runner up, and now this pervert who hits on 16 year old girls he is supposed to keep safe and make a better citizen. Fire the principal- that idiot is either not in control or an incompetent moron.

PS- Onlyrealcat - you are a complete idiot. By the way, isn't that what the gym says? The Only Real Cat in Town? THANK GOD!

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Submitted by Gerard9 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:21pm.

you are completely wrong.

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Submitted by Denise Conner on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:17pm.

We've missed you & Mixer!

That's not very PC to call an aficionado of intergenerational sex a "pervert."

He probably was just putting into practice what he'd read in Judith Levine's Harmful to Minors: The Perils of Protecting Children from Sex.

“Sex is not harmful to children. It is a vehicle to self-knowledge, love, healing, creativity, adventure, and intense feelings of aliveness.” — Judith Levine

Read more about Levine and other "enlightened" "researchers" in "The Academic Case for Child Molestation" and "The Erosion of Intergenerational Boundaries in Media and Culture."

We have Kinsey to thank for such acceptance of "nonproblematic intergenerational sex." The Kinsey researchers claimed that "the contacts often involved considerable affection" and that "early sexual experience is often positively correlated with greater adult sexual and interpersonal satisfaction." The trauma only comes when other reactionary adults discover the "relationship" and express disapproval. "Society's condemnation . . . contributes unnecessary confusion and harm," according to a "controversial" article by the American Association of Sex Educators, Counselors & Therapists. Kinsey and many more recent "researchers" claim that "repression" of childhood sexuality is linked with higher levels of adult social violence. Puzzled

Now you know why we have so much crime today. These teachers are providing a valuable social service! Shocked

”Sexual Misconduct Plagues U.S. Schools, AP Reports”

Story Highlights:

• AP: Educators were punished in 2,500 sex cases from bizarre to sadistic.

• Accused are overwhelmingly male, often popular, recognized for excellence.

• Quiet punishments allow many violators to move on to other schools.

• One in 10 victimized children reports sexual abuse, say academic studies. Most of the abuse never gets reported. Those cases reported often end with no action.

• The number of abusive educators is nearly three for every school day. "It's much more prevalent than people would think."


Submitted by The Eternal Skeleton on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:22pm.

Can you explain more about kids on special permission? How exactly is it a problem?

Submitted by studentwhs101 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:06pm.

Enigma you don't know what you're talking about!
Greg Stillions is an amazing administrator and far from an idiot. He can't control what teachers do in their spare time and i can assure you if Coach Heintz had shown even the slightest bit of potential for doing something like this he would have never been allowed to step foot onto our campus, much less be hired. Whitewater High School is one of the most innovative schools in the county, we have top notch technology, an amazing curiculum that allows the students to think on their own and, before this incident, a flawless teaching staff. Yes, there has been some bad things happen in the past few years with vice-principals getting DUIs and students bringing guns to school but those occasions are the results of INDIVIDUAL'S mistakes, not the school in whole. So unitl you attend the school and have more than an outsider's look on things, don't assume you know everything! WHS is an amazing school and doesn't deserve to be spoken about like that!

and as for all the other things you listed, the ring ceremony was not designed to rub our win in the face of the state runner up, it was designed to celebrate a victory that our team fought for and deserved. and besides, the state runner up did the exact same thing to us last year with a ring ceremony so until you call that a "rub in the face" don't criticize Whitewater for it.
special permission students being there is hardly an issue, it is their choice what school they want to attend and if they want to attend a school that's going to give them a higher quality education and a better chance at furthering thier sport's career that's their perogative and quite frankly none of your business unless it's directly affecting you!

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Submitted by Enigma on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:27pm.

Since I still own property in Brooks - it IS my business. In fact, I may own YOUR house. Care to compare tax bills?

You may not want to hold the guy who hired the unqualified drunken administrator and "Dirty" Harry Heintz accountable but I do madam.

Your arrogance and "innovative" approach hasn't resulted in test scores as high as McIntosh or Starr's Mill, you don't have the history of athletic or academic successes of either.

You certainly don't have the high road in administrator or teacher's moral character.

What your "Only Real Cat in Town" attitude has actually done is create an environment where students are comfortable with drugs at school, weapons on campus, and still have students who say they are "Not Surprised" when your coach (Who recruited and harbored an out of district football star) is comfortable asking his students for cell numbers and texting them to send him naked pictures.

Okay, you win, you do in fact have an 'innovative' approach to child molestation and exploitation. Texting children from school is indeed a modern method of child exploitation.

Surely you are not claiming that the tax dollars I contributed for your overheads when we built your school is what makes you a 'good school'?

Yes ma'am, from the top down your lack of accountability and refusal to hold leadership (drunk or otherwise) accountable is indeed a pitiful reminder of why government schools are so often the subject of ridicule. Only Real Cat in Town indeed. You are not up to the level of the other Fayette County schools and won't be as long as you are blinded by your arrogance and lack of leadership. I guess when you hire a Principal from Clayton County that is what you get.

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Submitted by studentwhs101 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 9:56pm.

on the contrary, i'm not ms. stillions i happen to be a current student at WHS which rules out you wanting to compare tax bills.

and i disagree completly with your accusation that students at WHS feel comfortable bringing drugs and alcohol into the school, and although your tax dollars did pay for the school to be built, you obviously don't care enough about those tax dollars to step foot inside the school and see how it's run because the atmosphere that our faculty and staff creates is not one that students feel comfortable doing any of the things that you said.

i'm done trying to convince you and everyone else that WHS is a good school because in the end you don't attend there and Greg Stillions does'nt need your approval to run the school the way he knows it needs to be run. i really hope that you realize one day that just because one person in a group does something wrong does not mean that the rest of that group is guilty of the same thing.

God bless and Goooooooo Cats!

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Submitted by Emmyjune on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 2:41pm.

Keep in mind a certain phrase that is the cornerstone of our Justice System here in America:

"Innocent until proven guilty."

We don't know the whole story, yet.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 2:43pm.

yet.
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Submitted by Sniffles on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 2:50pm.

I'd call a felony arrest "legal trouble"....but maybe that's just me?


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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 2:57pm.

Ah, they updated the story. The earlier story stated they were determining if charges would be brought.
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Submitted by bankermom on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 1:59pm.

Are these girls giving a teacher their cell numbers? There is no need for any teacher to have a students personal cell number. Both the teacher and the students should know better.....we aren't talking about 1st graders...these students are old enough to also know right from wrong just as much as the teacher. JMHO.

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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 2:11pm.

but not that long ago when my daughter was in highschool, there were several hush-hush stories about coaches and music teachers and students. Ultimately, it came to light, indeed there were affairs, and as the girls left school, either by graduation or whatever. . .they married.

You are certainly right these "kids" KNOW what is going on, they KNOW what they are doing; to a point I see it as much the "kids" part as the teacher. I guess this is an ageold problem . . .those old enough to remember TV's Mr. Novak (whew long ago) the whole premise of the show was that the teacher was cute and all the girls had a crush on him. Looks like it goes even further than a crush these days.


Submitted by bankermom on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 2:42pm.

You are totally correct! In my senior year (1987) I was dating a 24 year old...his younger brother was my art teacher. Tell me how weird that was! But these are different times. My 16 year old daughter asks me how I got away with dating such an older guy back then...it's called supervision! My mother provided me with no supervision growing up, so I did as I pleased. Luckily my kids have parents who give a damn about them.

Submitted by pldoolittle on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 12:56pm.

"This guy now will be ruined due to this article."

No, Coach Heintz will be ruined because of an extremely stupid decision regarding a minor in his charge...

Submitted by thebiggun on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 1:05pm.

My daughter goes there and if he did that with her, he would not have to worry about his job anymore. The kids there say there may be other problems that have not come to light. None of the kids I know were surprised about it. Where is the Board of Education on this matter. The letter I received about him made him sound like he walked on water. He sounds to me like a guy in a rain coat hanging around a school yard with a bag of candy. The DA needs to look into this matter.

Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 1:31pm.

the ten girls numbers he had were all given to him. if her number is in their then she give it to him! so now what!

The only real cat in town

Submitted by whsdad on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 12:46pm.

This is where adult decision making comes into play. You politely decline and explain that such interactions between student and teacher are inappropriate.

Not only have you covered your butt, but you have educated the student. As a result, if another teacher makes such an advance, the student has been told by someone they trust that it is wrong.

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Submitted by tortugaocho on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 2:18pm.

Onlyrealcat, the biggest surprise in this whole discourse is that a clown like you really does have a shot at a high school degree.

It would not be unusual for a student to give a phone number or email address to a teacher. The teacher requesting an exchange of pornography is indeed unusual, and despite our liberal bedwetting DA, criminal as well. Biggun is right-- in the good ole days this "coach" would be toting a "hindquarters" whoopping. Last summer at the Fayetteville ball fields, an adult male tried to pick up a 14 year old girl at a tournament. Watching him being confronted by the angry group of fathers was great. He followed their collective advice to depart the facility promptly, undoubtedly minus one less good pair of Fruit of the Looms.

You and Genarlow go ahead and party on, Cat.


Submitted by onlyrealcat on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 12:37pm.

coach did great things for kids. last year he let t. dixon #5 live with him so he could go to school at whitewater and who played ball for him. the girl probly ask him too! yall look stupid you did this with ms pena and she still there too!

The only real cat in town

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Submitted by Violetsunshine on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 6:30pm.

Yes, he let his star player live with him rather than lose him to another school. If that kid didn't play football he would've never been at WW, so don't make this man into a martyr for that.


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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 3:20pm.

Your history on the Citizen proves out that you are the number one public defender when it comes to black folks being accused of a crime. Is this the case with you once again?

By the way Rat, when are you going to go back to school and get that edumacation that you are so sorely in need of? Eye-wink

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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Submitted by hutch866 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 3:28pm.

Thanks for the Tim Conway site on U tube, I watched the one where Tim's talking about the elephants and laughed so hard I almost busted something, I had seen it before but never really knew what Vicky Lawrence actually said at the end. Those shows never get old to me.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 4:38pm.

Happy Birthday. Aren't those shows a hoot? With the shows we have on now, it's no wonder there are so many predators preying on our daughters instead of honoring them.

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 3:25pm.

he's not black.
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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 4:36pm.

Eye-wink

**** GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME ****

"That man was Griffin Judicial Circuit District Attorney Scott Ballard".

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 4:42pm.

I'll be very very quite as you hunt those "wats". BTW, Fox 5 is going to air the story of the coach soon. Of course, that is if you have a functional TV.
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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 4:53pm.

I'll watch it over the internet. Question: What makes these predators think they can actually get away with this? It might work once or twice but eventually.... Puzzled

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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 5:08pm.

story. I'm not going to comment any more about this.

Anyway, it's off the gym so I can drop about 50lbs so I can fit into my old spandex. Be back in a couple of hours.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 4:58pm.

I guess the whole story will come out of the darkness soon.
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Submitted by pldoolittle on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 1:00pm.

"last year he let t. dixon #5 live with him so he could go to school at whitewater"

Not sure I'd brag about that one either...

Submitted by flip212 on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 12:56pm.

Wow if you cant even ask for a nude photo what’s the world coming to.

Are you serious? Am I to assume that by your statement above you feel that its OK for a teacher/coach that of children or young adults to ask them for nude pictures of themselves?

NO charges yet!!! If this individual has nothing to be worried about...why the sudden resignation?

Submitted by JFletch on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 3:41pm.

I go to Whitewater High School and i dont know whether i should be surprised or not. It was sort of obvious, but i never thought it would come to this...

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 4:46pm.

It was sort of obvious, but i never thought it would come to this...

Hey JFletch! What was so obvious? What was up with all that from your guy's point of view?

Thanks for chiming in and Gooooo Wildcats! Smiling

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