To former PTC Mayor Brown: ‘You were right’

Tue, 10/16/2007 - 4:27pm
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Long ago while I was trying to become a responsible adult male, I learned that when you are wrong you admit your short-comings and try to change that wrong behavior. In that vein ...

To Steve Brown [former mayor of Peachtree City]:

Sir, I apologize for working against your re-election and not more thoroughly investigating some of the issues.

Time has proven you right on several points, although I am still not completely convinced that you were the correct person for the job.

Hindsight has proven you to have been truthful on those points.

One of my personal irritants is political double-speak, which I consider very close to knowingly telling something that is untrue. Political double-speak over several breakfast meetings is apparently what myself and several other veterans were fed.

Elections, politicians and political double-speak — now that is an entirely different ball game.

Again, sir, I apologize; perhaps I needed to take the cotton out of my ears and pay more attention.

Edward C. Ragan, II (Skip)

Peachtree City, Ga.

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Submitted by Spear Road Guy on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 6:15pm.

Yes, I've taken a couple of jabs at Obama and Gore on some posts, but I thought the local scene was taking care of itself. Everyone sees Mayor Logsdon for what he really is.

I remember the Birdman being a huge Logsdon supporter. Hey, I backed him too, but like Mr. Ragan, I was smart enough to say I made a stupid move.

Cutting Brown down even though he was right just makes you look like a much bigger loser Birdman. A lot of us care about what is best for the city and we were smart enough to bury the hatchet and move on.

Mayor Logsdon has been a disgrace and Birdman and McDonoughdawg keep limping along trying to convince everyone Steve Brown is evil.

After all the lies about taxes, big boxes, pay raises and police stations, if you're still pushing Mayor Logsdon, God help you!

Vote Republican

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 9:38pm.

I'm curious, where now? You and Brown(or is that the same person?, the mind wonders) get to pick.. I say Spear Road and Robinson, sounds good to me. Brown should have plenty of money for his past vote to make it happen.

What about his support of TDK? What's the problem GIT R DONE....

You know it's true, Brown is and always will be a JOKE.....

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Submitted by birdman on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 3:35pm.

Mr. Ragan,
I read your "apology" to Steve Brown and felt I really needed to respond. Perhaps you forget how much venom and backstabbing came from the very man you apologize to. Steve Brown was, and is, a pure egomaniac. His administration was so vicious that it began to tear this community apart. He publicly, and with any venue possible, attacked anyone and everyone who dared to speak against him. All the while quoting the founding fathers and how standing up to government was what separates our country from others! Yet when anyone dared to question or stand up to him, he would slander and attack using letters to the editor, State of the City addresses, even an Ethics Committee hearing when he violated the ethics laws.
And as for "doublespeak?" How about his being an "anti annexation" candidate only to personally, and privately, negotiate an annexation with John Wieland homes (you know, the biggest developer in Georgia), and during an Annexation Moratorium no less! Then when confronted he stated he was doing that as "citizen Brown" not "mayor Brown." Now that's doublespeak!
Hear is another example: Brown is speaking loudly that he so adamantly has always opposed TDK. Well let me refer you to his letter to the editor on Oct. 5,2005 entitled "Consider what record shows about council’s TDK extension decisions" It's in the archives, go read it....PLEASE! Here is just a small sample of Steve Brown's letter, HIS WORDS:
"Our current council was the only one that actually programmed funds in the city’s budget for TDK."Councilwoman McMenamin made a motion to which I seconded to sign a resolution in support of the TDK project...."Barring anything happening to delay Hwy. 74, Brown said he had no problem with the TDK Boulevard project. Brown also expressed appreciation for Coweta County’s support of the project."
Does that sound like "oppostion" to TDK?
Steve Brown has one vision for PTC, HIS vision. He will attack, insult, and slander anyone who questions him. Simply read his letters. He always accuses eveyone of being liars and developers. He even stated he lost the election because of the developer vote. You mean there are 11000 developers in PTC?
Brown supports candidates that he senses will do his bidding. God help them if they ever cross him. Just ask Dan Tenant who Brown whole-heartedly supported in 2001 only to viciously attack him later just because Dan voted against him.

Yeah, Brown is a real charmer. So was Adolph Hitler. He is a bi-polar megalomaniac. He is posturing to run again. But he failed in nearly everyone of his promises from 2001. Taxes went up under his rule, Golf cart paths deteriorated, businesses left, and our image state wide was severely hurt by his ranting and ravings. Simply ask the surrounding cities what they thought of him.

So don't apologize. Simply remember how it was under him. We don't need a return. We need solid candidates who will run for office to improve the city, not create a kingdom.

Submitted by Citizen_Steve on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 4:33pm.

We've been most recently let down by elected candidates who "ran for office to improve the city". We don't need the divisiveness of the past (and let's get over it, ok Bird-Man?), nor the doublespeak of the present. Many of us reacted to stop the divisiveness at the expense of supporting candidates who were probably worse for the city in the long run.

What we really need is a 'candidate with guts to say "No"'.


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Submitted by birdman on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 7:46am.

You know Citizen_Steve, you are wrong. "Just Say NO" sounds good, but as everyone who has held office knows, there are a lot of state and federal laws that must be dealt with. Every candidate goes into office with good intentions but when they get thrown into the fray they find out that there are laws or projects or issues that cause them to compromise.
Let's assume that you, Citizen_Steve, are actually Steve Brown. So let's look at "your" (Brown's) campaign of 2001. Do you remember the promise to put all annexations requests to a vote of the people? What happened to that? I heard that actually that is illegal in the state of Georgia. How about the promise to Stop TDK then failing in killing the project? See what I mean?
The problem is that our city politics assumes that anyone other than Steve Brown (you?) and his "picks" work for big developers. That is so blatantly NOT TRUE! We live in a desirable community. That's why we moved here. So are we to assume that now we are here we can simply pull up the draw bridge and stop all growth? Can we ignore state EPA laws? Can we simply just become an isolated city trying to force only our opinion on the surrounding cities and counties? That's what Steve Brown's administration attempted to do.
You see Citizen_Steve, we, in the good ol' USA have varying visions for our community, state, and country. To voice those is the fundamental duty of our citizens. However Steve Brown (you?) has no respect for that duty nor the visions of others. He (you?) only sees that as his (your:?) duty and only your vision. To squelch everyone else with slanderous accusations including "liar," "developer," etc. is simply an attempt to squelch free speech and destroy debate and reasonable compromise.
That is where the "Hitler" analogy came in. That is what all dictators do. They destroy their opposition either with the pen or the sword. Brown (you?) uses the pen to attack and destroy all opposing views. That is why we find ourselves where we do.
Prior to Steve Brown there were no anonymous "Letters to the Editor." They were all (most) signed. Now our paper and this blog is ALL anonymous leading to the hate and slander contained in it.
I stand by my comments. I would be happy to debate one on one about anything I say. However when I have tried to do that via email in the past, you, ALL OF YOU, have declined. Better to just stay in the shadows. So, I am here with you. I will not open myself up to the public slander of "Free Speech" anymore.

And that is the legacy of Steve Brown!

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Submitted by CCB on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 9:44am.

Birdman can’t stop foaming at the mouth because he was released from the institution too soon.

I have supported Harold on many occasions, but he has made some real whoppers too (taxes, pay increase). I still support him.

I will admit that Steve Brown is an honest guy. And for the people who support him, he serves them (I’m not one of “them”) well.

Are you saying you would like to see the state law changed on annexations? I hope not. And as far as TDK goes we all know Steve Brown was putting the brakes on the project. Bob Lenox kept reminding everyone Steve Brown wouldn’t let TDK go through. Much to my displeasure, it was Harold who killed it after he swore to us it would happen.

Birdman is the kind of lunatic which drives everyone to a Steve Brown. The Hitler reference makes you look like an out of touch idiot. Blaming anonymous posts on the worldwide Internet on Steve Brown makes you look even worse.

Like him or not, agree with him or not, at least he signs his letters – unlike the complainer Birdman, the hypocrite. Although I did not agree with him at times, things ran a lot better when he was there.

If you want to be part of the opposition, try coming up with some intelligent points for shaping the future instead of comparing Steve Brown to Hitler.

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Submitted by birdman on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 11:26am.

You make my point exactly! I used to always sign my letters. Then I got tired of Brown and his buddies anonymously trashing me by name. So I joined the flock.
My comments about Brown reflect his leadership style. He is only as honest as any other politician. I refer you to his letter to the editor in the archives of Oct. 5 2005 edition. I challenge you to read that letter and then tell me that Brown stopped TDK!
I never was about supporting Logsden. Yes he has done good things and bad things. But as you read Brown's constant critiques you will see one recurring theme, "Developers." That is who he blames everything on. I don't know Logsden or any of the other candidates or councilmembers. However Brown insists that they are all "on the take" from big developers. Yet in all these years he has NEVER made a case to show this graft and corruption. He has driven all debate underground and has made each of us, including you, use terms such as "foaming at the mouth because he was released from the institution too soon." "...the kind of lunatic...." etc.
I called Brown "bi-polar" because I have seen those tendencies in him. I certainly am no expert but he shifts moods and positions frequently, a trait of a bi-polar. I called him a megalomaniac because he seems to fit the definition:
Megalomaniac:"A psychopathological condition characterized by delusional fantasies of wealth, power, or omnipotence."
I compared Brown's charisma to Hitler only to point out that charisma and charm are dangerous. Brown would have been a great mayor if he hadn't tried to simply change the city to fit his image (delusional fantasies of power). He is very charming, until you speak against him. Then he becomes a vicious attack dog. He stops at nothing to publicly degrade anyone, even me, a private citizen. That is a dictators tactic. As I said, you can silence your opposition with guns or pens. Brown used the city stage and Cal's paper to do exactly that.
For example, do you seriously believe that Logsden was "bought" by developers? If so then we need to file the charges and get rid of the corruption.
My annexation comment was a promise by Brown. I don't want to change the laws, but Brown made a promise that he couldn't keep. He knew, or should have known, that he couldn't put annexation to a vote of the people. But it was one of his campaign cornerstones. It garnered him many votes. That was simply pointing out the "doublespeak" from him.
So again, thanks for making my point. You slurred and attacked, and insulted me from an anonymous position. As I said, that was Brown's legacy.

Submitted by Citizen_Steve on Thu, 11/01/2007 - 8:16am.

Birdman, my 'just say no' is a reference and link to Cal's recent editiorial at, which I found to be on-target. I'm not Steve Brown and I don't see the point of debating dead issues.


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Submitted by Sniffles on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 3:42pm.

The above post by Birdman gets my vote for most asinine blog post of 2007.

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Submitted by mudcat on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 7:37pm.

That's true, but irrelevant.
What is important and useful for those watching Brown's political comeback (as a paid columnist for The Citizen) is this birdman quote:
"He is a bi-polar megalomaniac"

True. Don't forget it. And don't ignore it.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 3:49pm.

The rest of the post is dead on true.

The "hitler" reference was for dramatic effect.

Submitted by McDonoughDawg on Wed, 10/31/2007 - 3:40pm.

Brown's a nutjob.

So which Church is Brown in favor of rezoning for a 24 hour drug store now?

Submitted by skyspy on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 3:49pm.

Steve was right about alot of things. You can't fight city hall.

You and I are in the minority. Most people like what is happening here. Such is life.

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