The Tyrone candidates' forum was a resounding sucess. The forum provided voters with clear choices. The old government of Michael Smola for Mayor and Ex-Planning Commission members Ken Matthews & Jesse Nasianceno stuck by their past destructive ordinances of taking away property rights, high density development with sewer and strong support of Town Managers Barry Amos & Valerie Fowler. While the new enlightened candidates, Don Rehwaldt for Mayor and Tracy Young, Gordon Shenkle and Eric Dial for Council easily showed superior knowledge and quick answers to all the questions which pleased the citizens, giving hope for better government. Shenkle was the most eloquent speaker giving off a sense of confidence and ability to govern competently. Young, who spoke well, was the most straight-forward stating that he would vote to repeal ordinance 454. And Don Rehwaldt exhibited an executive style perfectly suited to be Mayor and Chief Executive who would be a hands on full time overseer of the Town's managers - something that has been missing for over 10 years in Tyrone. The questioning format completely defused the old political style of candidate promises of generalities without specifics, requiring nuts and bolts answers to which the old guard of Barry's boys stumbled badly.

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Submitted by BaseballFan on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 8:37am.

What a shocker Monday night at the candidate forum in Tyrone when wantabe mayor Don Rehwaldt admitted he thinks much of the Bible is "folklore." This stemmed from an AJC interview. WOW.. you could have heard a pin drop. I find it ironic that the very basis of what our country was founded on Don doesn't even believe in, yet he wants to be elected to public office? Wake up Don, in the conservative town of Tyrone it's very clear who will NOT be the new mayor. On a positive note, both Tracy Young and Eric Dial came across very confident with their responses. These are guys I can trust. I can't say for sure, but I bet they believe in the Bible (all of it!)

Submitted by jondough on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 10:24am.

Actions speak louder than words - The actions of Barry Amos, Valerie Fowler, and Mike & Janet Smola are very un-Christian. They treat people very badly. This is completely inconsistent with the basis of Christian values. Don't think that because you found some obscure article [that I think has been taken out of context to smear Rehwaldt] that you have really done something other than show your real colors!!

Submitted by oldbeachbear on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 10:29am.

You made the point better than anyone!

Submitted by oldbeachbear on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 9:32am.

Before you say MORE OUT OF CONTEXT to try to make yourself look better you need to get your facts straight! 1st, he wasn't INTERVIEWED by AJC, he wrote a comment ONLY on an article pertaining to beliving all parts of the Bible verbatim. Let me say that religion is a very personal and we all read the Bible and come away with very different views of what we read. True Christina states the Bible, as we know, has been rewritten many times. May I quote part of it?


"The Bible is a very interesting piece of literature. As Christians, it is important to not only believe it, but understand its contents and composition. Also remember the history of its creation and how it was EDITED. Yes, that's right, the Bible has been edited many times over, in fact the greatest revision was done in the period of the Constantine's rule. Back then the Bible was lose scrolls and old papers. It was at this point Emperor Constantine had Bishop Eusebius of Caesaria put together some of these old scrolls and papers and present them in a book form for the new churches that would be in his new capital, Constantinople.

Now understand there were hundreds of books, scrolls and papers of the Jewish/Christian history from The Beginning on. So when you think about it, Bishop Eusebius is the one who basically wrote the Bible. He took all the information he had and wrote the Bible we have today. The thing is that we Christians do believe everything that's in the Bible to be true since we assume God wouldn't allow His Word to be really altered and distorted, so that everyone who followed His written laws would go to Heaven.

That leads me to the question of, "What about the information that was edited out? Isn't there anything good that comes from it?". Well there is a yes and no to that. Some of the things edited out were edited out since they might sound silly to unbelievers who don't have a thick Shield of Faith over their brain like all Christians do. If y the entire library of lost and edited out information of the Word of God were suddenly reinserted into the Bible it would create an uproar in Christianity and most likely God would lose souls to Satan.

People who were originally known by Jews/Christians/Muslims who essentially were "edited out" would be like the first demon queen, Lilith --the mother of the succubi. Also other creatures which some are even mentioned in the Bible, but the context that they are is confusing unless you know the full story that you can get from the missing/lost/edited Word of God would be like the behemoth (Job 40:15-18), leviathan, and ziz. I found a piece of literature though written by the Jewish Rabbi Louis Ginzberg in his book "Legends of the Jews" where he gets a hold of many other old scrolls, texts, and so forth that have been locked away by the Roman Catholic Church (which Emperor Constantine basically created) since Bishop Eusebius made the great revision. Rabbi Louis then pretty much writes the Old Testament (also known as the Torah by Jews) from the basic components again, rather than like some Bible around today that have been rewritten/revised 10-20 times since the original times they were penned.

Does that mean the actual Word of God was altered in a negative way? Maybe, but the fact remains the the basic message is there, which is the fine point.

In 1604, King James of England wanted to have wanted to have a Bible produced that would be of use to all; everyone from the king and clergy down to common folk. So men went to work and finished the King James Bible by 1611. What was their source though? The King James Bible was actually just a revision of the Bishop's Bible which was written in 1602, but the thing was that the Bishop's Bible was a revision of another Bishop's Bible from 1568, which actually was just a revision of Covverdale's less than scholarly "Great Bible", which was a rewritten revision of the Tyndale and Wycliffe Bibles which had been translated in a rush by another religious leader who wanted an English version rather than the Old languages.

Long story short...if you think this comment is reason for 4 more years of Smola, you must be kidding!

Many people have different interpretations of the Bible. That is why we have Baptist, Methodist etc. I believe they are all good people with God in their heart.

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Submitted by muddle on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 10:04am.

The only thing is that the account that he offers--a sort of man-on-thre-street version of biblical origins--smacks of Dan Brown's fictional account of it all. It is an example of someone with just enough knowledge to be dangerous.

For one thing, he utterly overlooks the science of textual criticism which, partly as a result of close examination of causally unrelated scribal traditions, concludes that the New Testament that we have extant today is better than 99% free of interpolations. No scholar working with the Greek text today is dependent upon the materials that formed the basis of the KJV, for example.

Eusebius "basically wrote the Bible"? Heh.

People speak and apparently think as though the New Testament manuscripts appeared in an historical vacuum. Someone perhaps found them in a cave like at Qumran and it is all speculation where they came from and who wrote them. As a matter of fact, we have an unbroken historical context that takes us all the way back to New Testament times. Paul's writings, for instance, were circulated and recognized among bishops writing in the first and second centuries. And the earliest Christian belief is not lost to history but is open to historical examination.

When later, mostly gnostic, "gospels" such as the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Judas began to appear, these were indeed ruled out of the canon. But, despite what the religious conspiracy theories suggest, the basis was doctrinal, not political. The Gospel of Judas, for example, has Jesus constantly going off into long diatribes on astrology and esoteric wisdom. The early church recognized all of this for what it was--an attempt to usurp the authority of the Jesus tradition in order to promote beliefs foreign to it.

And, speaking of the Dead Sea Scrolls, one important find among them were scrolls including most of the Old Testament. The scrolls discovered were nearly a millenium older than any of the extant OT manuscripts that had been available. So the interesting question was how well the extant manuscripts matched up with those a thousand years older. If our friend's loose comments about what happened in the scribal traditions were true, we might expect radical changes to have crept in. But in fact, the comparison between the two traditions is remarkable. As I recall, for instance, the Qumran text for Isaiah 6 leaves off one "qadosh" ("Holy") that is included in the extant tradition. (So it is "Holy, holy is the Lord..." instead of "Holy, holy, holy...."). It is said that trained scribes knew the text with which they worked so well that, when the text was in book form, if they pierced a character on the top page with a needle, they could tell every Hebrew character that the needle passed through on subsequent pages.

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Submitted by secret squirrel on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 9:18am.

We should just kill people who dare to question the bible. If you don't believe in Jesus, you should be killed painfully. Those Muslims have the right idea, golly-gosh darnit!

Where does this guy get off questioning the bible?!? He can go straight to heck and burn for eternity.

Submitted by jondough on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 1:54pm.

Please tell me that this comment is made in a sarcastic manner.....It seems to read sarcasm, but I want to hear it from the Squirrel's mouth. Thanks

Submitted by Nitpickers on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 12:21pm.

You are off a little: They do need to ask you to believe in the Bible first, then they can legitimately shoot you dead!
Now, also, this doesn't apply to the Jews. a special case.
Since everything anyone says is true, even if maybe you didn't understand what they said, then one must not say anything about Christians or the Bible that they may question, or you will be shot.

Submitted by HankyPanky on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 2:07pm.

The Bible say: Thou Shalt not kill. Squirrel

Submitted by Like it is on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 9:54am.

I hate to say it, but it's a tough call between Rehwaldt and Smola. Mike seemed smug but clearly was more knowledgable about how government actually works. Don was passionate but seemed irratated to even be there and lets face it, the "bible is fokelore" comment was pretty damming. Due to Mike being part of the old gaurd however, I'll vote Rehwaldt.

For Post 1, Tracy Young hands down. I'm sure Ken Matthews wants to do whats best for Tyrone but he's just not ready to be the leader that Tracy clearly displayed.

For Post 2, I didn't understand a single reponse from Nasianceno. Again I'm sure he's a good guy but he's not ready to be a councilman. The hardest decesion I think is between Dial and Shenkle. They both had good responses, both represent a different direction than what we currently have, and I'm sure both are competent. In this case however, I'll vote Dial. Gordon seemed almost as smug as Smola. He came across to me as "I've already won this election - I dont know why I even need to be here". Eric seemed more reflective and showed some levity that all of the other candidants lacked. Plus, if Gordon is elected, then the entire mayor and council will be beholden to the Neighborhood Alliance. I think concentrating that much power in the hands of a few could be dangerous. So Dial gets my vote, Gordon, you should have run for Mayor.

Submitted by oldbeachbear on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 10:13am.

Gordon Shenkle is knowlegeable and it showed. Dial is what he is, someone who made no bones about supporting Amos or sewer...those are 2 no no s to most. I never saw Dial at a town hall meeting untill the other night and I've been going for 7 years! He goes to the PTO and coaches baseball for the kids. Shenkle was copy catted by Dial more than once the other night. I think he is nice but clueless.

Submitted by jondough on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 10:04am.

I agree with most of what you have said, however, I thought Mr Shenkle did a great job!! Renwaldt, Young & Shenkle - that is what is going to be best for Tyrone!!

Submitted by oldbeachbear on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 10:27am.

distancing themselves from Smola? I wonder which candidates will let Smola put their signs in his yard.

Submitted by Tyrone Aries on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 12:37pm.

I don't know why anyone would want to be near Smola on any issue. If the candidates have any sense at all, they will distance themselves from Smola & Amos for that matter. Smola made it clear that he is in favor of high density and more sewer!! We aren't even using all the sewer we have now. Why do we need more? Well I will tell you why - because Barry Amos has a plan for downtown redevelopment and he has submitted an application to receive state and federal funding for such. See the web address below, where a company called Gordon, Jones & Goulding prepared, for and on Barry's terms, the application for the funding. The comprehensive plan states that Tyrone is lacking in sewer for this high density downtown redevelopment plan they want. We are only using about 20-25% (from another post) of the sewer contract with Fairburn and now that PTC has pulled out of the sewer negotiations with Tyrone, where will Barry get his additional sewer necessary for the redevelopment. The comprehensive plan states "Tyrone currenly lacks any excess sewer capacity. Unless Tyrone increases its sewer capacity, via private systems, a new waterwaste plant, OR CONTRACTING WITH ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY, further development will be severely restricted." Check out the web address for yourselves if you don't believe it.

Personally, I think it is hilarious that PTC pulled out of negotiations with Tyrone for more sewer. But Barry needs to show the Atlanta Regional Commission and the Dept of Community Affairs that Tyrone has the sewage capacity in place to support the re-development of downtown....or in Barry's words - "the leveling of downtown Tyrone." If he can't do this then he may be in jeopardy of losing future grant money. Does anyone understand this?

Submitted by jondough on Wed, 10/17/2007 - 9:37am.

Please tell us you are kidding????

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