FreeSpeech for 10-03-07

Tue, 10/02/2007 - 3:38pm
By: The Citizen

Two real estate guys and a local PTC politician were overheard in a Fayetteville restaurant saying, "We've got to do something to neutralize Steve Brown." Later on the politician said, "TDK is probably happening in 2008." I hope you enjoyed the salmon and sweet tea!

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A word of advice to the person calling out a specific coach about their record and a specific position. Grow up and stop singling out a high school player. If you have an issue with the coach, go see the coach. Barking in the paper is cowardless!

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I get so tired of you Peachtree City folks, every week it’s complain, complain, complain. If your so unhappy why don't you just move.

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Bottom line for the PTC police department, I'm an engineer and the mold issue will never go away. Do not accept the band aid, it's almost impossible to seal out or maybe in this case, seal in the problem. You can not fix what you do not know. The source is unknown, so what is really being fixed? Whatever the city chooses is only to make a consultant or construction company more money. There's not a company or firm out there that will guarantee a total fix. Start looking for a new building and demo the existing.

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It is unfair to all players at the high school on 74 not to have a JV football team. Players mature between the lines by growing through game situations. The philosphy that the kids will be better with the current program is questionable. Kids hate practice and love the games. Preparation is important;however, it can not beat experience. The kids will gain experience, maturity and confidence by playing JV games. It would be fair to the kids that sweat all week, get beat on by upper classmen to be able to play at least 4-5 JV games. Come on coach, swallow the pride and let the kids play some games so they can build confidence as well as rivalries.These are important years in their life and the program will also benefit.

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The news about the mugging near the Glenloch Rec Center doesn't surprise me, but it concerns me very much. So does the gang-related grafitti in the tunnel between McDonald's and Gables Court, and along the paths on private property, fences, etc. I emailed public works about the grafitti in the tunnels more than once, and never received even an automated response. I agree, if it doesn't get painted over, the thugs have won. I wish the police would hang by Glenloch and other known areas of crime and mischief, rather than hiding in the Kroger parking lot looking for someone not to do a three second full stop, and all those other trivial things they love to pull folks over for. Thank goodness the Goodwill thing was squashed, that would have been the icing on the cake! The police seem to want to make the Internet a safer place than PTC. Hello, Chief Murray and Mayor Logsdon. Wake-up call needed FAST!!

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Our constitution guarantees American citizens the right to free speech. That right does not apply to anyone except American citizens. It most certainly does not apply to terrorist dictators like Iranian President Ahmadinejad. If you speak your mind in his country, you will likely be summarily executed. Why was he even allowed in this country, much less to speak to a bunch of impressionable college kids?

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Kids today? Parents today? Schools today? Where does it start and who is stopping it? One reason that we have let kids change and we have changed as parents is choices. There are way more choices for everything than there were 30 years ago. There also seems to be less time to focus on the important items in life as we all beat to the clock. Regardless, as parents we need to start the rehab program of our society. Teach the kids, I should say train the kids right from and wrong, stop buying all of them expensive cars at age 16, have them earn things they want, stop spoiling them and they may change the world. With all this said, the schools ought to be entitled to perform drug and alcohol testing on students in ninth grade health class. It would open many eyes, including many parents. It’s not to find fault, but it would be able to identify a problem and establish rehab. If people are against this, it's probably beacuse you really don't want to know or accept what your child may be doing. It is no secret that alcohol and drugs are being used excessivly starting at the ninth grade level. If a parent thinks their kid would never do it, take them for random testing. The business world does it, so why not at a level when the teaching/training is at an influential age? Stepping up may keep you from saying, it couldn't be my kid as well as save a life.

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Here's one for the person that blamed PARENTS for not raising "good respectful" children! I have taught all three of my children respect for themselves and others. I have taught them good manners, mine are about THE ONLY ONES I know of that say "pardon me" instead of "what" or "huh". Unfortunately, once kids become a certain age, and leave your front, or back door, it’s all for not! It all goes down the sewer as well as their language. I makes me so sick and angry that parents get blamed for everything all these little punks do out on the street. Most of us PARENTS do a good job and do try to teach values and respect. STOP BLAMING parents!!!

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The Citizen Reporter who did not back down from Commissioner Bob Sprayberry? That would have been Lana Middleton. I thought she was great. Young and fearless. She made many overweight, middle-aged, good-ole-boy politicians very nervous. As for Sprayberry, the voters took him to the woodshed and he has not been heard from since.

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THANK YOU!!! To the man walking up Peachtree Parkway towards McIntosh picking up trash. Because of you and all the other neighbors like you we have a wonderful community. This is excatly why we love to call PTC home & it is our home.

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Mayor Logsdon’s conduct is unbefitting of someone of rank serving in the reserves. He is a weak leader. Not once have I read in the local papers where the mayor has performed any type of professional assessment to determine the actual cost of the Kohl’s and the Lowe’s to our city in terms of roads and public safety. Do the low-paying jobs and the tax revenue of big boxes justify the collateral damage? He knows accountability is crucial and he should be demonstrating more control instead of lurking in the shadows. Our primary consideration needs to be achieving maximum utilization of Ga. Highway 54 in the future. How are we going to provide uninterrupted service on our two major highways if we keep landing such impediments? We have received nothing but political babble on taxes and development from this mayor. If his flippant attitude on extending TDK and exposing us to heavy traffic is any indication of his stance on big box stores, we are in real trouble. The intersection of 34/54 and 74 is our ground zero. We will not be attracting any more Chinese assembly plants or any other types of well-paying jobs if our traffic is at a standstill. This November, I’m intending to vote for a candidate who specifically denounces big box stores. But your actions must follow your words and this is where Mayor Logsdon has failed us miserably.

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To the parent who claims that the new 8th grade math curriculum is not working: Please cite evidence other than your own uneducated opinion. How can you know six weeks into the school year that it is ineffective? Have you actually visited a classroom? What are your credentials for making such a statement? I cannot take seriously the opinion of someone who has no experience in education or who has not witnessed firsthand what the math students of this county are actually doing in class. International research has documented the success of the new textbook series, and Georgia's NEW curriculum is ranked fourth in the nation. I challenge the notion that you have actually read the research The previous SAT scores that you cite in your free speech are proof that the former curriculum was inadequate. It doesn't matter what the teachers of Fayette County do... you will never be satisfied because you need something to complain about. Today it's the math curriculum, and tomorrow it will be something else. You should be counting your blessings that your children have the benefit of learning under some of the best teachers in the state, thanks to the county superintendent and math coordinator. As far as parents being involved in the school board, decisions, meetings are held every month. Please visit www.fcboe.org for a schedule of meetings. Everyone concerned is more than welcome to attend. For future reference, well-supported arguments are much more effective than non-supported arguments.

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Wasn't that really smart to spend that much money on a park so close to Riverdale?

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First Sany Corp. comes to town,under the cover of darkness,and the sheer surprise to all of this city’s residents , except of course for The Choice Few . Along with their arrival, we greet them with a gift of over 165 acres, and a city tax exemption for the next 10 years. Now the city Planning Commission is reviewing Sany’s proposal for another 44-acre project to be utilized as their corporate headquarters campus. The big suprise to me, although it shouldn’t suprise me, is their plan to build a number of private homes and condos on this heavy industrial site. Are there any other companies in the Peachtree City industrial complex with similar living arrangements ? I think not. Do we not have plenty of short and long term housing available within our city limits? Or does Sany have to keep their employees away from the community? Did we the city residents also give Sany this parcel of land along with the same tax break? Getting back to what Sany says, they are bringing to PTC the 200 to 300 jobs that they say will pay $50,000. Pretty steep from the two to three dollars a day they pay in China. How many employees are there in this city that are available to function as hydraulic, electrical and heavy machinery operators along with the toolmakers and machinists to keep the line going ? Here’s how it’s going to work: first they will conduct interviews, then they will disqualify people for various reasons, then they will bring in qualified people from their homeland and then there will be an offer to the local people to work as assemblers of the parts they will ship here from China. Once again it’s smoke and mirrors. Good work, mayor and crew. WE need a major change in our city’s government,and we need it now. Don’t let the upcoming election pass you by once again. You can not afford to let Mike Harman be elected and give the mayor another yes man on his council.

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To the loud-mouthed Tiger parent in the stands during the Woodward game: Who are you to question another person as being on the fair-weather bandwagon? From what I've seen, you unsuccessfully tried to pick on a devoted,long-time Tiger fan. Your trying to make him the butt of your hateful joke didn't work, except to make yourself look like a jerk.

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What a rip-off. The Fred auctioning off backstage passes for Peter Frampton for charity. Leading you to think that you are going to be able to spend some time with Mr. Frampton. Turns out that after spending a great deal of money for the passes, you are one of many people going backstage. Once back there, you get a picture taken with Peter Frampton and booted out the door in a space of about two minutes. No autograph. To everyone at The Fred, shame on you for misleading people.

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I think it’s cool that an upload on You Tube busted Eric Maxwell, Peter Pfeifer and the rest of the County Commissioners. You Tube gets a bad rap but it can be a public service, too. It's the people watching Big Brother instead of the other way around.

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The math curriculum meeting held at Booth Middle School September 27 was limited to 90 minutes. For the first 70 minutes, concerned parents were treated to a waste of time in the form of a presentation on every aspect of the new curriculum. Few of the estimated 200 parents in the room had not already seen this material, and what the parents hadn’t already seen they can read in Thomas Friedman’s recent book, “The World is Flat.” (Much ado about China.) It is clear from the explanations given that math is not supposed to involve facts, logic, repetition, using formulas, or plugging in numbers to get correct answers. Nooooo, math is now going to be artistic. Material that used to be presented by a teacher – a trained professional – will now be absorbed out of thin air by 11- and 12-year-olds who self-direct as they work in groups. With the remaining 20 minutes, Ted Lombard finally encouraged questions – but only if they were in writing. Yes, moms and dads scrambled for those pens, hurriedly wrote their questions, then turned them in to the front of the room where Ted read them out loud then followed with his version of a pep talk for this doomed program. In the course of the hour and a half long meeting, not one question was voiced. There was no dialogue, no discussion, no question-and-answer session. I hadn’t been this talked-down-to since I was a middle school student myself.

This curriculum is a newborn baby, a product of Georgia educators only, designed specifically to address the SAT questions that stump Georgia students but not those from 46 other states. It’s too bad Georgia educators didn’t adopt the math curriculum in use in one of those other 46 states, perhaps the one with the highest SAT scores.

The only one of the questions discussed that evening that really matters is this: Where in the U.S. is this math curriculum already in place, with a proven track record of success? Answer: Nowhere. The next time you hear the phrase, “unique to Georgia”, be afraid. Be very afraid.

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There is some strung-out war-vet/ex-cop running around whose face looks like two cherries in a bucket of strawberry/chocolate ice cream. He is suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome and severe anxiety attacks and likes to approach police officers and discuss the weather in order to relieve his acute symptoms. Whatever medication the VA is prescribing is not working. The 10-96 red flags surrounding this subject looks like a used car lot in Riverdale.

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Here's $200 for my nerd kid to play football. I want to see him in the first game of the season. And when Bluto from Braelinn knocks his socks off, I'm going to blame the coach for not training him right.

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In last week's Citizen, Cal Beverly wrote an article "I'm looking for the candidate with guts to say NO" While most of Cal's comments were directed at the sorry state of affairs in Fayetteville, Peachtree City and Tyrone where the elected officials can't find a developer’s rezoning request or mass building project they don't fall head-over heels in love with--regardless of it's negative impact on our quality of live for most of us. As a note to Cal, I will point out that we had two such elected officials at the county level until the last election----Gregg Dunn and Linda Wells. Both said that the county land use plan was valid and during their tenure on the County Commission, they lived by it --they said NO so many times that developers and the landed gentry just quit asking for increased density in the county. So what happened--- the forces of big money, developers, land speculators and such, simply found a couple of folks they felt would follow the lead of their city counter-parts and got rid of Wells and Dunn. Already, our new developer-friendly Commissioners have created one acre lots in and area of five acre tracts--and this is just the beginning! If you think things are going sour in Fayetteville( soon to be called Riverdale South) Peachtree City and Tyrone, just wait and see what our current crop of County Commissioners have in store for you as they don't give a rip about what most citizens think about managing growth --they just want to please their business partners . I would encourage you to contact the County Commissioners to express your concerns, but honestly, I think it would be a waste of your time. I think what you will be seeing during the next few years with this group of Commissioners is very few NO's to growth and more decisions made in illegal backdoor meetings. As the President might say: God bless America and God help Fayettte County! What do you think Cal?

Its refreshing to see that two of the candidates, for the city council posts No. 1 and No. 2, are willing to express there views and concerns,in the print media. They both are zeroing in on what some of the major problems,that are going on in our city. And both of them, are not afraid to hit on the hot button issues. The candidates I am speaking of are Don Haddix seeking post No.1 and Tom O’Toole,running for post No.2. Both of them are very vocal about what they would like to once elected. We haven’t heard from Mike Harman. Does he think his election is a shoe in, because of his relationship with the mayor? His views are probably dictated to him by the mayor. I guess that is all I can say, except to Don and Tom, keep up your focus, and do not give up on championing, the issues that all PTC voters and taxpayers really care about. These are the "Candidates" ,who will bring PTC back to where it should be and above all, they will not vote as told by the mayor,but will vote for the good of the city.Good luck on the upcoming election. I know me and my neighbors are looking forward to voting for you both. Keep up the pressure,by continually putting out the word in the Citizen. PTC does read the Citizen and puts a lot of trust in what is written .

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Submitted by Cyclist on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 1:50pm.

I bet I got out of the office before you today.
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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Tue, 10/09/2007 - 2:21pm.

you probably did. Guess who showed up unannounced and an afternoon early. Well, now I can take the Hanes label off until the next time, whew! Glad he is back, but it was a surprise.


Submitted by wildcat on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 6:38pm.

Gee...what can I write? Having been to one of three days of training all I know for sure is that it is here and it will be taught at the high school level starting next year. I've already started incorporating it into my resource math class. One day a week we try it. It's not easy for any of us. For those of you that don't know, resource math is for those that math comes real hard. Does it work? Time will tell. But in the meantime...I'll keep you posted as to how it's going in my room!

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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 6:50pm.

I understand that the elementary grade levels have a new math curriculum that is taking some getting used to by the students and the teachers. I guess time will tell if it helps. If anyone knows much about it I'd love to hear your take on it. Some of it has been kind of tough. One thing I've learned is that if you have child in school you get to learn math all over again. Why does it seem like they're doing work in the 5th grade that I did in High School years back? Or maybe I forgot most of it because I never have to use it. Puzzled

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Submitted by TonyF on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 7:59am.

You said "I have taught all three of my children respect for themselves and others. I have taught them good manners,". If this is indeed true, and you have done such a wonderful job with your "little punks", why, do you suppose, "It all goes down the sewer" as soon as they leave the house? Makes me wonder what you think a "good job" is.

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Submitted by susieq on Tue, 10/02/2007 - 7:31pm.

To the person who said:
"The police seem to want to make the Internet a safer place than PTC. Hello, Chief Murray and Mayor Logsdon. Wake-up call needed FAST!!"

I have always wondered why PTC paid someone to lure people on the internet from other places to PTC for the purpose of arresting them. Why don't they take care of PTC first?

Are PTC tax payers financing this national problem?

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