I would like to tell you they were not all inocent but close enough.

Sir, I can't believe you are both so stupid to come on here saying the things you just said, and secondly that you were ever allowed to become a parent in the first place.

Think about this Garrett. EITHER THEY ARE GUILTY OR THEY ARE NOT! You just testified that your juvenile delinquents are a couple of guilty little slackers.

First of all Shane Gregorovic really had nothing to do with it but only had some knowledge of know where the drug was.

Perhaps you should monitor who your kids hang around with. Let me ask you something. We've already established the fact that you are not very bright. But, I have to ask...... Do you actually believe that anyone will buy that lousy excuse?

Second Danilo Gregorovic had never smoked the drug but only to see how much of it he could get by the end of thanksgiving.(Him and his 2 friends contest)

Now this one I'm buying. NOT!

That has got to be the stupidest, most ridiculous excuse I've ever heard. Is that the best excuse your little Danilo could come up with? Let me guess.... Danilo doesn't do very well in school...does he?

Third the only reason he sold the drug is because he needed some money to pay off some of the car accident.

Well Hell! Case dismissed. That's the best one you guys came up with yet. No doubt there's a bit of truth in that line. If there was ever a justifiable reason to sell drugs it is this one.

I think everyone has the right to know what is going on. Thank you.

I think you made it very clear what's going on in your household. You and your entire family need some serious intervention to take place in your strange home. Calling Doctor Denise!

Hello Child Protective Services!!! Can You Hear Me? Looky What We Have Here!

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You are responding to a child, he's the same age as one of my children. He is not a parent to anyone who was arrested, he's their oldest child.

Hi I am the oldest of the parents of Danilo and Shane Gregorovic.

I did misread that one didn't I? After reading it a couple of times I finally understood that there are three of them. I thought the writer was the oldest [one] of the parents. Duh me! I was wondering why someone would want us to know that they were the oldest one of parents.

he's the same age as one of my children

Respectfully Chippie I have to state: So What? I stand by my statements and because he is the kid that wrote that stupidity and admitted all that guilt in public then he definitely needs to be made aware as to how stupid he is. This kid needs the truth and not a bunch of coddling. The worst thing we can do is accept that stupidity and give this "child" (as you would say) the false illusion that he's doing the right thing. Good grief his line of thinking is in desperate need of being challenged. Do you want him growing up to be this stupid or what?

If our DA were to do his job right, he'd make a copy of this admission that Garrett made and issue him a subpoena as a prosecution witness. It's time for an important life lesson for the Gregorovic drug peddling children.

Chippie, would you let your children get away with this? Would you not expect an adult to rebut such ignorant statements that are made public? Or should we all just sit back and be compassionate with our mouths shut pretending this never happened and hoping it'll go away? I just don't get you point?

I suppose we could use the "children" argument for the Jena 6 and the maggots that hung the nooses in the 'white people's tree'.

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Why I'm so happy my kids have not found the Citizen Online. Man, they are safer with guns than with keyboards these days.

Kevin "Hack" King

Git,
How would you know that this is just a kid when he said, "Hi I am the oldest of the parents of Danilo and Shane Gregorovic."

I wondered why he said he was the oldest of the parents. In another one of his posts, I realized this was the "child," not the "parent."

He should not have said he was the "parent."

At least you're picking on someone closer to your age now.

Since you said you didn't get my point, it is: I'm not defending anything, just letting you know you are responding to a young child who is defending his parents.

I'm not taking your bait by dragging Jena 6 and everything else you brought up into it. I'm on the way out the door to Church.

At least you're picking on someone closer to your age now.

Everyone enjoys the benefits of enjoying a level playing field in which to operate.

I'm not taking your bait by dragging Jena 6 and everything else you brought up into it.

I don't blame you. I was just looking for someone to come out to play.

I'm on the way out the door to Church.

I can't think of a better place to be on such a beautiful morning. Have a wonderful day!

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My mother has never smoked weed. EVER!

Why have that less than an ounce of marijuana?

I truthfully believe she shouldn't've been arrested, and I don't know her.
Let us know how that's going for her.

If your mother has no idea that a substantial number of other crimes are directly related to the sale, use and distribution of drugs then it would appear to most of us that she may be under the influence.

I'm sure the guys buying the kilo of coke were just going to use it all themselves, why just the other day I was wondering what I could do with my house payment for the next year and I said to myself "self, go buy mass quantities of cocaine, yeah, that's the ticket".

I yam what I yam...Popeye

If it was legal to snort and have cocaine, you realize that these "criminals" would have no market? If it was legal, these dangerous drugs wouldn't be in the hands of dealers, they'd be behind the counter at the gas station.
Not to mention the difference in prices.

Read up on Alcohol Prohibition and look at the 1930's mobsters, and then read up on the current drug-related crimes we have today.

"If it was legal, these dangerous drugs wouldn't be in the hands of dealers, they'd be behind the counter at the gas station."

I guess that's why I can go to a gas station and buy a gun!

For some unknown reason, that you can't fathom, I DON'T WANT YOU OR YOUR PROGENY WALKING/DRIVING AROUND STONED or otherwise under the influence!

They are a DANGER to society! They KILL innocent people so they can get enough money to fix their cars and not get a real job and contribute positively to society.

Haven't you figured out yet that you are part of the reason the rest of us have carry permits?

How about we legalize a hunting season on people that do and sell drugs with a $1,000 bounty for each one we eliminate form the gene pool? All proceeds to be donated to the Shriners so they can help fight child cancer.

And people kill their husbands and wives with guns everyday. Families. Children. Hey, even cars kill people. You don't have to be under the influence to kill someone while driving.

Some crimes (30%) are supported by drugs that dealers sell.
Take the drugs away from dealers and tax them.

Your spouting off about the insanity of violence associated with drugs, which prevent you from carrying around a gun whenever you please, and yet you're sober, I assume, and own a violent heart, with wishes of death for those with a different habit than your shoot'em up kill.

"How about we legalize a hunting season on people that do and sell drugs with a $1,000 bounty for each one we eliminate form the gene pool? All proceeds to be donated to the Shriners so they can help fight child cancer." That is the most wonderfull idea I have heard in a long time. The only thing I don't agree with is the ones's that ...do.. drugs...they are the victims of the drug dealers. They are hooked. A large % of dealers won't touch the stuff cause they know what it can do to you. So many families have been ruined. It takes several shots at rehab to get,..if..you get, you kid off it. Open season on these 'low hanging fruits' would be the best thing we've ever had. I've never killed anything in my life but for that, I could make an exception!

I like the way you think.

Illegal drugs wouldn't be so bad if the users would just OD and we didn't have to deal with them. Too many of them survive thats the problem.

Okay, let’s get to the heart of the matter. There are always going to be people that advocate for the legalization of “recreational” drug possession and use. The simple fact that most people don’t possess the knowledge to use them responsibly “said with tongue in cheek” is where our arguments stop and opinion begins. And opinion doesn’t count unless it errs on the side of the worst possible scenario each time a drug is used.

I’ve lost a lot of friends to drug abuse back in my teen years. I spent a lot of time attending funerals at a time when I should have been surfing, skiing, tubing or fishing anything but going to funerals.

I’ve heard every rationalization I think anyone can hear. I am, frankly, not listening any more. I’ve made the difference where I can, I’ve managed to scare my son so badly about the dangers of drug use, impurity, legal action, imprisonment and you bet, one’s inability to keep themselves from hurting others that he won’t go within a miles reach of a place or a friend he even suspects of doing drugs. And he doesn’t drink. He’s an adult now and has no curiosities about substance abuse. That’s about as lucky as any one man can get. For me, that’s like winning the lottery.

I’m a happy man. Will that keep the illegal drugs out of our neighborhood, off our streets, out of our schools? Oh Hell No. As long as there are dollar signs attached, drugs will find a way in to the hands of the people that WANT to use them.

I think our position should be to make them so expensive that even Bill Gates couldn’t afford to use them.

I’ve seen people sacrifice everything they have to get there hands on narcotics. I even know of an old friend, he had such a bright future too. He was one of those guys that you thought, in twenty years we’ll look back and say, “We knew him when…” And we’re doing just that. Only now were saying, “We knew him when his life wasn’t totally screwed up like it is now, when he had a place to live, when he didn’t steal money from you when you invited him over to try to do a solid favor for him.” That’s what we say about him now. He was on the verge of making millions in advertising and was set to take over his father’s small chain of banks in South Georgia.

Now, he’s homeless and that still isn’t enough incentive to for him to stop spending every penny he gets on drugs. You have to throw your hands up at that point and find someone that want’s the help rather than spend all your time on the people that don’t want your help, as much as you love them.

No one is worth giving up on. I’m not saying that. But some people are suited to help certain personality types better than others. What I’m saying is make sure you’re not wasting your time and make a difference where you know you can. Let the professionals work with the folks that will be harder to cure.

The rest of us need to do what we can to make sure there is not a demand any more in our area. That is the only thing that will dry them up.

And for a lot of people, they’ll just whine and cry that we’re stepping on their toes, infringing on their freedoms and their rights. I say that just can’t be. NO ONE has the right to introduce a product for public consumption that, even if YOU feel competent in your experience for using the substance, if it’s in the public market for YOU, then YOU are responsible for those who die using the product. How’s that? That sound fair to any of you?

The fact is, if these things hadn't been in the market, there would be a lot good people that didn't deserve to die still with us. A fact's a fact. Drugs Kill people, how can someone rationalize that as a something that wouldn't be so bad if... Just one more to add to my already gigantic collection of rediculious rationalzations.

Mark McDonald

You see, My son DID OD and died. He was 24 and battled this disease for 6 years and we were by his side the whole time. Was he a piece of trash? I don't think so, but the "invite" at the grave site still stands and as you can see, I'm not a coward hiding behind a fake name. All you have to do is look me up in the phone book. Barry Lovett, Fayetteville,Ga.

we've talked before. I feel bad about the innocent kids like yours that are taken from you just cause some drug dealer wants a bigger house/car or whatever. I think they are monsters and I would do anything to help shut them down. The laws are just not tuff enough. You are a better person than I cause, if I remember, you know who was suppling him. They would be dead if it was my child. There is a law about 'temporary insanity', and trust me, they would be dead and I would plead temporary insanity and I don't think anyone would convict me, probably give me a medal for getting the trash off the streets.

That thought has went through my mind may times......A few things changed my mind though.
1. They lived in Union City ( the same city that Dustin was found in )
2. The same city that the police took the word as gospel from the piece of trash that let him die. ( aka Kerri McMitchen ).
3. The same police that told me " to just get over it ".
4. The fact that I have two more boys ( one which is in Iraq now ).
5. With ALL the people getting off on their charges, guess who would get that poor one juror that wants to put me away for A LONG TIME!
" remember we are talking about Fulton County ".
Thanks for the support though, I have not given up and God knows that I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN!

are getting paid off by the drug dealer to tell you to 'just get over it. Some people, if they believe in God, should be afraid to die. Maybe the reason they are still alive after all the misery they have caused, is they haven't got hell hot enough for them yet!

Barry I am sorry for your loss.

Illegal drugs are a cancer on our society. I don't think anyone has as easy answer to solve the problem. On the one hand jeze's suggestion makes sense, on the other hand we would have a society out of control and hooked on drugs.

I am sorry for the insensitive comment. I would like to find a way to get rid of the dealers though. Kids like your son would have never started if it hadn't been for someone selling. So I still support lawenforcements effort to get rid of all illegal drugs.

Guys, if I could I would roundup all the dope dealers in the county and burn them at the stake! The problem I have ran into though is the fact that drugs abuse along with drinking problems is a disease just like cancer. Stop and think how bad some of your days are and how you have to cope with them....now think about how hard it is for the people that have drug and drinking problems and how they have to deal with "our" every day problems ALONG with "their" problems! I hate drugs to the bottom of my heart but at the same time, my son (Dustin) showed me strength that I could never come equal to! Is there an answer to this problem? Beats me...in the past two years since he died,I have asked this question a million times. If your ever at Camp Memorial Park, go down to the first pine tree on the right and his grave is on the left of the tree. It's a blue marker, I'm sure he'd love the company.....I love him and just want people to know that he really was a very good person.

I cried when I read your post. How very hard this must be for you.

We never had problems with our children re drugs. I have three grand-children and I pray for them. Peer pressure concerns me a lot.
I think all of us hate drugs and crime.

What's that old saying..but for the grace of God go I.

My prayers are with you. The next time I'm in Fayetteville, I will visit Dustin's grave.

God Bless

Tug

Barry,

Like skyspy, I too wish to extend my sympathies for your loss. I can't begin to imagine the hurt and loss that you and your have family suffered. We get started on these threads, which are very public, and express our thoughts and feelings. I can say that skyspy is most sincere in his apology. I will say a prayer for you.

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I'm sure you're living in Five Points. I'm sure you actually see drugs on the daily, I'm sure you're absolutely surrounded by people who do drugs.
Or I'm sure you've donated your time and money to help people, because you see what a terrible mess they've come into. You're just the blessed child, with rights to say that your life and choices are the best for every being on this planet. That risks are never taken, that you live on your own radiance.

Right?

I mean, one of those has to be right. Because life is so clean cut and no shade of gray in sight.
Which one is it again?

I hate crime, and I'm sick of dealing with it.

Whatever

I'm with you skyspy on this!! I'll just grow my winter coat and be cold with you!

I do a lot of work in Atlanta replacing the a/c's that are stolen to buy the crack and wharever the do with the money, some of the houses are on their third a/c and second set of wiring in the house and the house is not even a year old, that what the drugs do and making them easier to get will only make the problem worse.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I personally know there are victims in the Gregorovic family: their 5 children. Now their Mom & Dad are in big trouble. Gee, you think you know some people . . . I guess this goes to show you never know.

I feel bad for their children to have their parents taken away from them for such a stupid reason.

I perfer the parents who smoke marijuana to the parents who drink the night away and go to work hungover. Not to mention the aggression involved with alcohol, and considerably higher amounts of (physical)abuse related to that, and the relaxed nature associated with marijuana.

The parents obviously had a passion for children, what with having five of their own, and both of them being teachers!
I feel bad for the whole family.

The victims ARE the children who had their parents taken to jail, and the parents who are going to have a much harder time supporting their children once they get out of jail.

Jezehbelle,

I think Highflyer hit the nail on the head. We've out foxed ourselves for years, thousands of them in fact. Alcohol as been around along as rotting fruit has been. We didn't invent it, we just stumbled across it one day a few thousand years ago and have been using ever since.

I can't get behind your statement about marijuana parents versus alcohol using parents. I think there's equal risk in both circles to the children of such parents. I'm speaking from a perspective of at least half that experience. My mother died an alcoholic. And term is such a misunderstood phrase I almost hate to bring it up. But in the strictest use of the word, it's intolerance to the drug alcohol. And it is a drug, no different that a lot of schedule II and III narcotics. It's considered a depressant, that is (is slows or) depresses the central nervous system, slowing respiration, enhancing the effect of any other CNS drugs a person might be taking as well. Their actions are erratic and unpredictable. In my mother's case, it was a combination of two factors, a genetic intolerance to a drug her body had decided it enjoyed using.

After a while it became all about the drug. Once the drug was in her, all hell broke loose because her system was intolerant of it. On several occasions, I had to wonder if my mother had any Native American Heritage in her blood line along with that booze she was into. I fully expected her to go on the warpath when beer or booze was in the house.

The sad part is this, when I turned 18, she asked me to move out. It was a bitter sweet parting for each of us. I needed to get out of there and live a different life without that particular demon (alcohol) looming over me and at the same time, I was going to miss my mom being around a lot. But I knew I could always come back for a vist when I wanted to.

I worried a little for my sister, but I knew that she was going to take the same road I had in four more years. I'd lived though it, I was confident that she would too.

Mom needed the alcohol to cope with her day, the expense of two children, and an abusive second husband. I tried not to fault her for it. Then the call came. She had died in front of my sister and no one in our community (a fairly wealthy one at that) would come and help her. It took this 14 year old girl an hour to find someone to help her. My mother was gone long before help arrived.

I have only the guilt of not being able to be there with my sister who, in a panic had no idea what to do.

It was pretty clear that alcohol had taken its toll on my mother. I don't believe however that if she had had an alterative drug at her disposal, she wouldn't have run into the same problem under different circumstances. I think she would have still died when she did. It would have simply been a different monster that swallowed her.

For instance, for me, my monster turned out to be tobacco! It’s tried to kill me four times now. Three heart attacks, seven stints and one respiratory collapse later and I’ve finally managed to quit. Will it make a difference? Is it already too late? I’ll let you know in fifteen years or so. If you don’t hear from me, then it probably didn’t make a difference.

When I think of these things, I think of Highflyer. I’m proud to be able to call him my friend. I try to listen hard to what he has to say, even if he doesn’t have an immediate answer, he’s as my grandpa might say, “He’s thinking on it.” He’s been through a lot, even the kidnapping of a jar of very valuable cookies. He’s earned my respect in a lot places. He’s a good soul. I hope we have him around for a long time to learn from.

Mark McDonald

Yes, the victims are the children, but the parents should have thought about that. I guess this means they will be wards of the state and I will have to support them. BAD PARENTS.

Could it be that what you refer to as "actual crimes" is committed by those seeking drug money.
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Or they could just need money?

Really, drugs are not always the cause of crimes. We need to get over this stigma, and get these people help instead of sending them to jail when it's just drugs involved.

People get better in hospitals, not prisons. People get better with real honest education instead of scare tactics and lies.

Dealers, AGAIN, would have no market if drugs were legal, taxed and regulated.

I could possibly be helping support all 7 of them because they need money. I am tired of supporting low life people and their children.

What are you definding here? The need of money, or the legalization of drugs?

about 25 to 30% of crimes are committed for drugs. As for hospitals, they're available right now. If you're hooked go and get help. If you traffic in illegal drugs and bring misery to society you will pay the price. As for the idea of making them legal through control, regulation, and taxes that has already been tried by the Brits in China. Legal opium caused havoc in China.
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Arresting someone whose an avid drug user whose only guilty of possession does not help them get better. Rehab might.

Let's look in the Netherlands. Something more current that's actually working.

The main issue that they have is where the supplies are coming from --often from countries where it's illegal, since the 1961 convention says it's basically illegal to grow or trade marijuana. I'm not sure if they tax it or not, but I do know that they do not keep reciepts from marijuana sales.
There's been an 43% increase of people seeking voluntary help for their drug issues between 2001-2005.

What's working here now? We're getting mixed results. We obviously still have drug users, after seventy years of prohibition and thirty years of the war on drugs. The only thing that can help eliviate the problem is getting rid of the drug dealers. But, stomping on one will not get rid of all of them.
I'm saying this again, because it's got such a nice ring to it -- take it away from the dealers and putting it in the hands of established businesses, tax it, grow it on our own land, create jobs for farmers. No import-export.
No gas station attendant or liquor store owner pushes different kinds of alcohol or cigarettes. You get what you want.

What is your message?

If we don't like the laws or if they are inconvenient for us to follow we should just break them?? Is that what you are saying?

I agree with you in part that we waste alot of time and money on this problem. I have read the article that you are talking about, and I agree with most of it. Until the law changes we can't just break the law because we feel like it.

When did I say I think people SHOULD do drugs?
I'm saying people do drugs, and we should change the laws, because it's a waste of time.

Over the last thirty years of the war on drugs and the last seventy years of prohibition, if this was really, really working, it'd be no issue. People everyday are doing drugs, and you'd be surprised at how many functioning members of society have done or do drugs. It's not just the crackies near Grady. Or the rebellious teenagers smoking marijuana.
There are no medical benefits to alcohol (other than redwine in moderation) and tobacco. And yet these kill many, many more per year. It's partly the hypocrisy of it that bothers me.
And it's not that it's easier access either. If you seriously wanted to do coke, you could do coke. If you seriously wanted to try heroine, you could get heroine. I don't recommend it, because I know the effects on the physical and the mental. But the point is, you can, and if you want to, laws aren't going to scare you out of it.

I'm never going to tell you what you can and cannot do to your body, because its not mine and I have no right to say that to you. I'm not that sure why we have laws that do.

I'm saying, we could actually benefit by legalizing some drugs. Really, I'm not in a whole lot of favor for the hard drugs out there getting legalized, but it would be behind the counter, or in restricted adults-only stores, and not being pushed on kids by dealers that DON'T CARE.

I'm more for protecting kids, I'm more for taxes, I'm more for legalization, because prohibition isn't working.

I'm glad to see our big box parking lot helped out again. Maybe mcBULLY was trying to help us out afterall.

You are exactly right cyclist, I bet most of the armed robberies are by druggies looking for drug money. Let's hope these scum don't get off easy.

chimes in to keep this thread running. I've got to run and get some serious work done around yard and spend some "quality" time with a couple old cars - which is all I can afford.

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I'd be more than happy to continue this thread, reguardless of the amount of anger I'm receiving for an opinion.

Who knew I'd cause so much aggression and sarcasm with a simple paragraph?

Angry? I'm not angry. You're attempting to explain your point and I will mine. BTW in the Netherlands, only "soft" drugs are available through controlled means. Of the drugs mentioned in the "parent" news story there were both hard and synthetic drugs. I believe these are illegal in the Netherlands.

As for treatment thing, as far as I know, an addict can get treatment and not be arrested. However, if you're caught by the authorities you will be charged with being under the influence of drugs the same said for alcohol - public drunkenness.

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A few other posters are insulting me by calling me "Jezeh-refer-belle" and questioning my sanity for thinking differently.

They do less drugs than us, and the legal drugs have deferred people from using harder drugs -- they even have a smaller percentage of people doing soft drugs than we do, and they're legal there.

jeze I like your idea of getting tax money from drugs that are now illegal. We could use the money, and it would take money away from the dealers.

Who is the "us"??

Sounds like we will be doing the same thing I purchased a tree yesterday that needs attention.

At least we will have a beautiful day for it. Have a good one.

You can't be serious jezehbell? Who's the victim??? How about all the young children that these drug dealers most likely sell their drugs to?

You obviously don't have children or you are one of those dumb head up the you know where Fayette County citizens that still have blinders on. You must be so neive. Wake up jez, Fayette County children do use drugs. Fayette County children do overdose on drugs!!!

Or is it possible that this story bothers you, because you yourself fall under these scumbags catagory of lowlifes?

No one starts off by doing coke.
I've known many people in my life and have walked many roads and I have never seen someone start doing coke right off the bat.

More often than not, people start smoking cigarettes first.
Then it's alcohol (or vice versa).
Somewhere down the road, someone starts smoking marijuana. Compared to the first two, the health affects are not as grave. Read up on medicinal marijuana, please. Read up on the risks of cancer associated with all three of these drugs and tell me which is the Devil.

If marijuana and other gateway drugs were not in the hands of these drug dealers, who want to sell the things that cost more, and these were taxed and regulated, taxed so the money does NOT go to support gangs and violence in our nation today, but went to our schools and police departments and hospitals, wouldn't that be much better?

In places where marijuana is decriminalized and less of a "bad thing", there are fewer teenagers doing drugs. Please, go look at statistics.

I know these kids do drugs. I grew up here, pretty much. I have lost many people to drugs and alcohol.
I really don't even do drugs, with the exception of an accident I had in March where I was prescribed hydrocodone, and the occassional drink at the bar, and both of which are perfectly legal.

I'm just a citizen whose seeing this trend nationwide because of a war on drugs that is not working.
(Seriously, think about it, if we're losing the war on drugs, and the otherside is ON drugs, what's that say about us?)

Dealers don't care who they sell to, only that their selling. Put it behind the counter, where businesses can get closed for selling it to the underaged. They care as much as their pockets book let them.

I do NOT want kids to do drugs. I'm one of those crazy people who'd support it if we raised the age to legally use tobacco to 21. Make it harder for teenagers to get them and take away the glamour of drugs being a way to rebel.

They sound swedish, don't they?

I'm glad they got caught.

I hope they put all of the drug money they got to good use. They definitly deserve a raise.

I wonder why jeze-reefer-belle is so defensive??

Please read the other comments on why I'm so defensive.
Why I'm so tired of hearing these drug stories of functioning members of society getting arrested for simple possession.
Why I'm so tired of hearing about children losing their parents, not because they died, but because they were arrested for possession.
Of why I'm so tired of this money that could be going to our schools.

Prohibition costs U.S. taxpayers at least $10-$14 billion per year, while if it was taxed and regulated, we could save THAT money, have THAT money for our schools. Not to mention if it was taxed like alcohol or tobacco, there'd be an extra $6.2 billion FOR schools, FOR the police, FOR the people, NOT the drug dealers.
And that's according to a professor of economics at Harvard University, with the numbers approved and checked by 500+ economists.

I'm looking at facts, figures and research.
You, along with many of the other posters on this thread are looking just to insult me for having a differing opinion based on research, not opinion.

I wonder why all of you are so fast to assume and jump to anger.

lets apply your argument to other illegal acts, it's been against the law to steal cars for more then 70 years, yet people still do it, should we make auto theft legal. It's also illegal to rob banks, has been for since, well, forever. People still do it, shall we change that law. Your arguement just doesn't stand up.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

Using drugs physically harms yourself.

When it comes to interfering with another's property and physical well-being, laws should stay in place.
But when the person being harmed is yourself, who are we to step in?

Why should we? What right do I have to tell you how to live your life when the only harm being done is to yourself?

Do we arrest people for smoking tobacco? Since the deaths associated with it are much more than any other drug, I mean, that should be illegal too, right?

Your argument just doesn't stand up.

they can be arrested for tobacco if your underage, or suppling to underage people, when you're strung out from your coke habit and you're being psychotic and having hallucinations and you're having a heart attack who pays for the treatment, do you think the user will have a health plan, with all the alky's living on the streets do you think there will be less coke addicts living on the streets when it is cheaper at the corner store? Less crime to pay for the crack oe meth you get at the magic market. when the meth freak needs another hit or toke or a snort or however they do it do you think they won't go steal or rob or kill someone to get that easily available drug that they wouldn't be hooked to begin with except the drug was legal and so easily obtained. Your plan is simplistic at best and it still doesn't stand up.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I've never seen a cop arrest one of the MANY MANY tobacco addict teenagers running around Fayette county.

Again... Look at the Netherlands, look at their crime, look at their drug policy.
See how it works instead of guess.

answer the whole post not just a little piece of it, are the Netherlands selling coke or heroin {no e you'll notice} who pays for the od's.

I yam what I yam...Popeye

I think where I get angry thinking about this case is the attitude that the kids don't deserve to lose their parents because they were *just* arrested for possession.

I agree that a lot of crime would end if some drugs were legalized. Tax drugs like we tax cigarettes and use that money to help those who are addicts. There's my simple two sentence stance on that.

But it doesn't change that these parents didn't just get high every now and then - they sold drugs. They knew that even more than buying drugs, it would raise the risk of being arrested and they did it anyway.

Their kids now have to be told they have no parents for a while because their parents chose to get high and to sell drugs even though they knew it was against the law. Those parents chose drugs over their kids, and explaining the choices with excuses about needing to fix a car, or everyone else is doing it or whatever else they come up with, doesn't change the fact that they chose drugs over kids. They weren't just getting high every now and then, they were associating with drug dealers when they bought them, and then decided to sell them. What awesome upstanding citizens must have streamed through that house every day. What great role models for their kids.

And if those parents were a teacher and a day care worker, well, that makes me even angrier. They pick and choose which laws they want to follow - are they choosing the right laws or rules to follow when it comes to watching OTHER people's kids?!? How you could defend people like that is beyond me. Talk to any social worker and ask them how disregard for the law affects kids before you defend parents like that.

If the drugs were legal, they wouldn't've been selling them.

Also, according to the article, the school teacher had less than an ounce of marijuana, which is about as much as you'd probably own for personal use.
I didn't praise the other for selling drugs. At least I don't recall, and since I've double checked and see that I haven't, I still stand by my stance that we shouldn't arrest users.
Just dealers. :|

(And since it was prescription medicines that they were selling, there's a 50-50 chance they were prescribed them, not bought from a dealer..)

People who are in possession of drugs are either using drugs or selling drugs. Why else would they be in "possession?"