County may change noise ordinance

Thu, 09/27/2007 - 8:57pm
By: The Citizen

The Fayette County Commission may consider amending its noise ordinance to allow a resident’s request for his children to ride dirt bikes on a track they built on their property.

But that possibility resulted in the commission getting an earful Thursday night after they discussed the matter. Several residents who live near the track on Lyn Loveless’ property said the current noise ordinance, which allows noise to be no louder than 55 decibels, has preserved peace and quiet in their neighborhood.

Several of Loveless’ neighbors who live near his Arnold Road home said before the noise ordinance changed in 2005 dirt bikes would be running on his property for up to seven or eight hours at a time, and sometimes six or seven days a week.

The ordinance has restored peace and quiet to the area, neighbors reported, and some said they worried any change to the ordinance might threaten that achievement.

On the flip side of the coin is young dirt biker Tyler Loveless, who told the commission that riding his dirt bike, and competing in events such as the national championship, is his life. He asked the commission for the opportunity to ride his bike on the track in his backyard.

Commissioner Eric Maxwell asked if there was any way the neighbors would be amenable to creating a window of time in which the dirt bikes could be used several days a week for say two hours at a time. Neighbor Bob Cook, who was at the podium at the time, said he didn’t want to speak for all the other people in the audience.

Another resident, Eddie Baldwin, said he didn’t live near Loveless’ dirt bike track but he worried that if the commission changed the noise ordinance his neighbor could install one and use it.

Chief Marshal Ed Collins told the commission that the current system's decibel limit is good because it gives a measurable way to determine what is and isn't a noise violation. It also has led to some people asking the marshals to come out to test the sound levels of certain activities before they do them.

The current ordinance allows people to apply for special permits to go over the 55 decibel limit, but those permits only last for 15 straight days. The permits can be extended for another 15-day period, Collins explained.

Acting county administrator Jack Krakeel suggested allowing the county staff to craft possible changes to the ordinance before they consider it at a later date.

Collins recommended changing the decibel measuring place from the property line of the person receiving the sound to the area of their property where people congregate such as the home, a deck, patio, pool or similar area. He also recommended having the noise permits issued by county staff instead of the county commission.

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Submitted by Bikepilot on Thu, 10/04/2007 - 3:11am.

I hope that there can be a solution reached other than total outlawing of the use of the track. Touching on a few other issues brought up. The noise is the only issue neighbors in this case have to complain about. The family has and is willing to continue to use exhaust products that reduce noise but for the purpose of high performance they are limited as to what they can do, still the current bikes register less than the local weed eater. The dust is no issue. The entire area is surrounded by trees that prevents the neighbors from being exposed to the dust. As for the comment about reducing the property value of near by houses. This track cannot be seen from any neighbor's house except one. The track when allowed to use is very well maintained. Much nicer than many yards are landscaped throughout local neighborhoods. In my opinion the house itself adds to the local value and you would agree I believe if you had the chance to view it.

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Submitted by Git Real on Thu, 10/04/2007 - 9:20am.

Come hang around my house on a Saturday while my neighbors are all running their whining weed eaters and blowers. Yes you can definitely hear them. But, when the kid up the street come ripping down past my house not only does he mute the weed eaters, he also rattles the everything in the house. Not to mention myself. Eye-wink

Sorry dude. There ain't no comparison.

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Submitted by Mx510 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 7:43pm.

This is the kid that some of you have been talking about, I would just like to say that some of you that are saying get a real life, this is just like football,soccer, etc. for your kids or for you, this is why I train everyday,(why your kids go to practice everyday), I'm not saying that I need to ride everyday, two or three days a week for two hours or so would be fine,and it is true that i compete at national levels, so what would you be doing if your child or you were getting the chance to go to these nationals but yet you couldn't have any time what so ever to practice for it. I do hope to become a professional in the sport but thats besides the point, if you are human, which i hope you are, you dream, and this is my dream, I'm sorry if i have affected your quiet time, but nobody ever called me, it was all done in secret and then they just forced us to quit riding without compromising or anything. So I am sorry for any disturbance and I'm hoping i can get a second chance to work something out between the two opinions. Thanks

Submitted by Bikepilot on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 6:55am.

I think that there are some definite adjustments that can be made to this situation. I am a very close friend to the Loveless family. But I am writing this for a different reason. (First let me say I am not going to attack any of the above post.) The noise from a dirtbike is very loud and I understand that many people are not fond on this. I have been involved in motocross over 15 years. I have seen this situation many times, where people were frustrated by the noise and did everything they could to stop us from riding. I have personally been involved in the testing of dirtbikes versus other outdoor equipment. I know for a fact that through the test it was determined that your typical gas powered weed eater, blower, hedge trimmers, jack hammer, chainsaw, and similar outdoor tools all registered higher decibels then the dirtbikes that were tested. These bikes were set up the same as the Loveless' family owns. So my point is are people just against bikes or against noise. If its the noise then it is time to ticket every lawn care professional, tree care professional, and any neighbor that maintains their lawns with anything other than a lawnmower and electric lawn equipment. That sounds rediculous doesn't it. There are other things that could be talked about. How about the fact that I live near Fayette County High School. Everytime they have a home football game I can hear the band and the announcer over the speaker. Do I care? NO!!! It would be one thing if it went on at 2am but it doesn't and people are enjoying themselves. Now as for the noise affecting the Loveless neighbors I see there issues, but with a little communication there are some ways to limit the distractions. One is to impose a window of time throughout the day, a few days a week. They are not looking to have 20 riders there all day long. How about something along the lines of 3 hrs a day Monday, Tuesday, Thurday, and Saturday between the hours of 10am and 5pm? This would not affect anyones sleep typically and would not interrupt dinner. If a neighbor works nights, then express this to the Loveless family and they can move the time of riding for specific days to 2PM to 5PM. These are good people and would be willing to impose strict curfews and time frames if fellow neighbors would only work with them and not be 100% against the riding 100% of the time. By allowing this your are not going to change the ability to maintain nice neighborhoods and neighbors. These people have 20+ acres, this is not a subdivision and only on neighbor can look out their house and see the track. This can also be worked with. There are ordinances that will not allow people to do this insubdivision or start a junk yard as stated by someone. All I am saying is lets give people a little bit of room to enjoy their toys and have fun using their hard earned dollars. It's not an all day thing and the number of riders is very limited on private tracks. Also, if you are a neighbor of someone with a track and lets say you are having a birthday party, family reunion, migrane headache, or whatever the personal reasons, just have a short conversation with your neighbor and explain this to them and 99.9% of people will not allow anything on that specific day to grant you piece and quiet while entertaining. And I agree that this should not be young Tyler's focus in life. I can tell you from knowing him that it is not his only focus in life and most of us adults should know to take everything in the news with a grain of salt. The impression that this article gave about that statement would lead anyone that doesn't know the family to believe they were instealing the wrong principles in their childrens lives and that is far from the truth.

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Submitted by shadowalker on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 1:03pm.

man i agree 200 %

im really getting tired of the fact that everyone can be made to stop
something they are doing that is really not hurting anyone
im tired of persons being told what they can or can not do on there on property (im talking legal things i dont me growing pot or anything like that) i mean just like the bike riding come on folks
we are a socicity (and know i dont spell good) of complainers
they are haveing fun and as for the commint its my life
i ride a bike an 1800 goldwing and i rode dirt bikes and raced them as a kid and it was my life and rideing still is my life
ive rode thru all of the lower 48 on a bike and im 50
leave the parrents alone

guess what they could be gang banging
ride son ride
zoom zoom zoom

what is your hobbie what is your life


Submitted by bladderq on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 8:30pm.

I thought Republicans stood for ??, well the American way? When did they go all liberal and start saying that you can't do what you want on your own property.
OH, the outrage, if some liberal administration was trying to take this property for the public good.

Who lived there 1st? If you buy property near the airport... Don't complain about the planes.

Submitted by Nitpickers on Thu, 10/04/2007 - 6:18am.

Well, planes are getting to be a problem. Some of these local pilots don't seem to know when to cut the pitch and stop creating excess noise! They want to be seen, I suppose

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 8:40pm.

Are you advocating that the neighbors cannot enjoy their property?
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Submitted by Nitpickers on Thu, 10/04/2007 - 6:22am.

Not at the neighbors expense!

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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 8:51pm.

Did you get the e-mail I sent you?

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 10:21pm.

Thanks for the e-mail! Now will not be able to sleep! If I don't go to work tomorrow, it's your fault.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 9:26pm.

No. When did you send it?
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Submitted by bladderq on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 8:50pm.

A slippery slope where one neighbor's enjoyment begins & one neighbor's ends.
I don't think he's keeping them up at night. Is he waking them up?
He semed reasonable and so did the ? Maxwell made (I voted for Dunn & Wells).
He'll grow up soon enough and move away to this career or on to some other. The people next door are lucky he's not a cop and it's a gun range or everyone on here would be in support.
I guess, I need to look for Libertarians.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 10:02pm.

It is a tough one. I do understand your airport analogy. Back when I was in the light aircraft game on the west coast, airports were under intense public pressure because of noise and the "safety issue". Those airports were there a heck of a lot longer than the houses. In some cases the airports didn't stand a chance and they no longer exist.

As for this young lad, I feel for him but I also feel for his neighbors. I don't know details but I wonder if an exhaust silencer would be a solution.

Libertarianism is OK but it assumes all will have the same enjoyment of their lives and property. With that said, who prevails in regards with this issue?

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 2:52pm.

"im tired of persons being told what they can or can not do on there on property".

OK, how would we feel if the person in the house next door to you - assuming you do own a house - did things to reduce the value of your home/property or prevent you from enjoying your home/property? That's why the neighbors are complaining. If he put an exhaust silencer on the bike the problem would most likely go away.
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Submitted by shadowalker on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 3:05pm.

well i do own a house in fay,
ive lived in fayette co. all my life

i remember when PTC expanded and the people that built and moved
next to property on redwine tried to get the county to make the
family behind them that had lived there for many many years stop
rideing ther dirt bikes on there 20 arces of land
and the county thankfuly then laughed and said no

new folks tried to make the family that had 15 20 arces with small ponies get rid of the livestock that had lived there for many many years because to them it smelled

i would be willing to bet that the bike in question has a noise arrester, that item keeps proper back pressure on the engine to insure good HP and torque.
i would not mind a kid riding is cycle on his property
they dont have head lights and i really dont think they are keeping people awake the county has a noise ordanice time frame

maybe they would like some bloods or crips moving in next door


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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 3:55pm.

Things change. I would suspect that those families with acreage along Redwine have sold that property. And I would further suspect that they wanted to get the maximum dollar for their land. Most likely, if anything would subtract from the value of that land they would be most upset as would you.

The neighbors (that's plural not singular)that live near this young lad's racetrack are obviously upset about the noise since they cannot enjoy their property.
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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 3:21pm.

If you are questioning if I am new here, I am. For your information I have lived here 7 months, I lived in a area close to here that is why you see 2006, what does it matter to you. I moved here because everyone says it's the place to be, except I have learned it's not much different than anywhere else with the people online.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 4:11pm.

"I moved here because everyone says it's the place to be, except I have learned it's not much different than anywhere else with the people online."

OK. I just hope you can understand yourself.

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Submitted by Nitpickers on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 5:07pm.

"Anywhere else with the people on line," means people lined up anywhere else to bug her (or him). I fully understand! It is not a clothes line, it is a web line, I think. Or, it could mean that the people are on line to be hung, but that would be in-line, I think. Maybe I don't understand!
Also, I doubt if "everyone" said PTC was the place to be (or Fayette) I'm not sure. Maybe a few everyones, but not all everyones. Do you now understand?

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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 5:13pm.

When we moved here to buy our house we were told Fayette is the place to be, especially PTC from people that we talked to. What is your point.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 5:22pm.

Perhaps you both need to get together. (LOL)
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Submitted by BPR on Fri, 10/05/2007 - 5:03pm.

Please don't insult again, it doesn't help the situation.

Yes, everyone says Fayette County schools are the best. My son has been in other schools and I am saying so far in the first 2 months of school at least there are not gangs etc. I do feel somewhat safe about the school, I do believe it's the teachers that make the difference. So far at this time I have good communication with 3 teachers, I want more communication but they are so busy. I want to know what is going on in school and at this time I have to guess because of the communication problem.

My son is not a brat, for someone to call him that makes themself look low. They don't even know him. I do my best to teach him values and morals that I think are lacking everywhere. We are equal and we should teach our kids that.

I am sure alot of schools came close to the top 8 schools. Sure, I am glad they got it, but don't put my child down and say I am jealous. Kids have it hard now days to achieve, the others that did not get the award, may try just as hard. Please give them some credit.

We moved here because of what we heard about the school system, and I must say where we came from was not bad.

I am just saying people don't have to make rude comments when you disagree with them.

These kids are pressured to do so good that they don't even have time to have fun, time to themself.

Rudeness is not something I can take. If we live in such a great place, let's not be rude.

For someone to assume that I am not rich because I am not in PTC is silly, they throw remarks and insults left and right and they don't even know me. I am talking about your buddies.

I find it sad, that someone can't disagree with someone without someone saying nasty things about a person's child or them.

I did not make nasty remarks, people have value regardless where you live. That's the way I live and it is not going to change. How does you buddy know I am not rich and I choose not to live in PTC, he chose to assume and make nasty comments that he doesn't know anything about.

Why can't we be nice and make Fayette County proud.


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Submitted by hutch866 on Sun, 10/07/2007 - 9:47pm.

you've harped consistantly how the people in PTC are rich and materialistic and rude and neglect their children and then you said the other schools deserved the award just as much as Mcintosh with no facts to back all that up and when people take exception to that they're rude. The whole world is rude but for you and your kid and you must be the only one that raises your kid right, does that about sum up your blogs ? I think so. I also think you're wrong and if the other schools deserved the award they would have gotten it. Mcintosh earned the reward and they are the ones who deserve the award.

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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 12:42pm.

How do you know that I don't live in PTC? I am just saying there are alot of schools in Ga. and I am sure that some scored the same, so how do you determine who gets the award. Simple question.

Yes, I do think not only in PTC but everywhere parents need to take time for your kids, if we don't we are in big trouble in years to come. No I don't see manners, instead I see giving your kid material things because you choose to work- before you say anything, I have friends that do this. I am concerned about our youth growing up and what values and morals we are teaching them.


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Submitted by hutch866 on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 12:52pm.

What does it matter where you live? I never said anything about where you live or don't live. When you signed in under another name just to support your argument, and then lied about who you were when someone called you on it, is that the morals you wish to impart to your child? Is that your values? What a inspiration you must be to your child.

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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 1:11pm.

I did not lie, I was playing your game.


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Submitted by hutch866 on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 1:15pm.

Not my game, what an inspiration you are.

I yam what I yam...Popeye


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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 12:49pm.

whatever name you are using today . . .since you are new, let me ask you a question, where did you blog and play before you joined this site? I think I have a better suggestion than my "let it go" comment on Friday. You ready - go back where you came from. You seem to enjoy beating a dead horse, perhaps where you blogged before this was acceptable, but here, it's a real pain in the . . .


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Submitted by Cyclist on Sun, 10/07/2007 - 9:33pm.

If I recall, my initial involvement in this thread - from another blog - was my curiosity about your statement that you were new here.

As for the education of your son, I offer this advice; education does not begin nor end at the school door. It is a 24 - 7, 365 day opportunity to learn the world. Foster this, and his boundary's will be unlimited. If you're already doing this I salute you; if not, begin now.
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Submitted by BPR on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 12:45pm.

You think I don't know this, I work two different jobs around my Son's school time just so I can be his Mom. Sometimes we make our choice what we think is more important. Believe me kids know when parents care about them.


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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 3:20pm.

Madam,

I wish you and your son well wherever you end up.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 8:25am.

oops a double post - sorry.
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Submitted by Cyclist on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 8:05am.

This is the last conversation I had with "sweatcheeks".
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Submitted by eodnnaenaj1 on Mon, 10/08/2007 - 8:20am.

her little heart.


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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 2:56pm.

Part of the problem might go away, but what about the dust? Smiling


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Submitted by highflyer2 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 3:04pm.

This is the only way I can say thank you......The flowers were wonderful! I'm sure that Dustin grinned from ear to ear!


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Submitted by Tug13 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 3:11pm.

You don't have to thank me. I just wanted you to know that someone cares. Skyspy cares too. All of us regular bloggers do.

What a handsome son!

God bless
Tug Smiling


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Submitted by hutch866 on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 5:58pm.

Once again you outclass us all, you go girl.

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 3:17pm.

highflyer2, you are always welcome here!!!!
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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 3:02pm.

That is a problem. I don't know how that can be solved or adjudicated. They are trying to deal with the noise. Do you live in the area?
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Submitted by Eliza on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 12:51pm.

If they make any changes to the noise ordinance, I would like to see it STRONGER, not weaker. I have no sympathy for anyone riding a dirt bike if the noise is bothering the neighbors.

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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 7:36am.

On the flip side of the coin is young dirt biker Tyler Loveless, who told the commission that riding his dirt bike, and competing in events such as the national championship, is his life. He asked the commission for the opportunity to ride his bike on the track in his backyard.

Good grief. If this is his life then I pity his future. What kind of sorry rumped parents would create such a false illusion of what life is all about in their child's mind. I'm constantly telling my children that their extra curricular activities and talents are fine and great but they AIN'T THEIR LIFE!

Attention Eric Maxwell & Company! No changes are required in the ordinance what-so-ever. If you allow these people to infringe and trample on the peaceful lifestyle that the fine folks now enjoy in their neighborhood then there should be no stopping me from doing the same in mine by opening up an auto salvage yard in mine. Another consideration is what will this do to those who love to see how loud they can blast their ghetto rap or Brittney Spears so-called music. Not to mention how one could possibly enforce the laws when it comes to a neighbor with an irrational barking dog. The ordinances are there for a reason and it wasn't meant for them to be altered for the pleasure and luxuries of singled out individuals. It's time to teach little Tyler that he can't always get what he wants at the expense of others.

Enforce the laws Eric! I can't believe you even said this:

Commissioner Eric Maxwell asked if there was any way the neighbors would be amenable to creating a window of time in which the dirt bikes could be used several days a week for say two hours at a time.

Eric, it seems your pretty darned good at bending, breaking or just flat out changing the laws for those you seek favor from or those whom you are employed by. Please prove to me that I'm wrong. Shoot man... Your starting to make LawBeLow look good. [Gagging and choking on my own statement]

Excuse me.... I gotta get a drink of water. Sad

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Submitted by PTCD on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 12:25pm.

I don’t understand your need to degrade a child who enjoys riding a dirt bike and does it on a national level. It’s amazing to me that you have any children by your actions. Check you grammar as well. It makes you look stupid even if someone agrees with you.
“GIT REAL TOUGH ON CRIME”
“I'm constantly telling my children that their extra curricular activities and talents are fine and great but they AIN'T THEIR LIFE!”
“Good grief. If this is his life then I pity his future. What kind of sorry rumped parents would create such a false illusion of what life is all about in their child's mind.”
3 of one thousand errors.
With you words I would have expected to find you in Clayton or Newan.

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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 1:52pm.

I don’t understand your need to degrade a child who enjoys riding a dirt bike and does it on a national level

I'm not degrading the child you silly goof. I'm degrading the family desires that their own selfish self interests are placed before their neighbors and the community at-large.

It’s amazing to me that you have any children by your actions

Uhhhh.... Errrrr.... I thinks me got my children via the same actions utilized by most other folks that reproduce. Is there another 'action' I'm not aware of? Puzzled

Check you grammar as well. It makes you look stupid

Sniff. Sad You didn't have to call me stupid did you? Sad

But, you gotta admit something about my grammar..... It ain't bad for a college dropout is it? Eye-wink

With "you" words I would have expected to find you in Clayton or "Newan".

Ha ha ha ha ha! With your spelling I'm surprised you made it past the second grade. Evil

What's funny is that most of my grammatical mistakes are satirical and done on purpose. Can you say the same about your spelling?

Your turn Shark Bait! Smiling

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 3:49pm.

Have fun with "shadowalker" but be gentle.
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Submitted by shadowalker on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 1:10pm.

you kinda left it hanging out there to be chopped off
there is a such thing as over kill]

the parents are doing what any parent would do encourage
there child

i bet you told your kid what a great nose picker he was
and let him pick your nose for pratice

get a life out side away from the computer

well my lunch break is over
got to go to work and earn my motorcycle gas money

oh yea i also have a harley davidson
man talk about noise vroomm vroommm


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Submitted by Git Real on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 6:29pm.

Are you talkin' to me chump? Evil

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Submitted by Cyclist on Wed, 10/03/2007 - 6:37pm.

I suspect it took the poor guy much of his lunch time to compose and type this. It might be a while before he gets back with you.

Wahzoo!!! You're too much!!!!
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Submitted by ftp on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 10:20am.

I personally know many motocross racers/freestylers making in excess of $150K per year. It's a very big industry and very common to make a living from it. Besides, who cares? He's having fun. (rolls eyes)


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Submitted by Git Real on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 1:59pm.

personally know many motocross racers/freestylers making in excess of $150K per year

Great! Best of success to him. I hope he finds a dirt track where he can properly train himself.

Oh, and let's not forget that the world is full of ex-wannabe basketball, football, and baseball players who thought the same thing. And don't let me forget to mention all the failed guitar playing rock-and-roll & rap wannabes.

Besides, who cares? He's having fun. (rolls eyes)

As long as he doesn't violate our county ordinances I 'don't care". I'm glad he's having fun. So am I!!!! Smiling

BTW. I know lots of trial lawyers and unscrupulous trial lawyers that make in excess of $150K a year. It doesn't mean I want my children to become one. Eye-wink

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Submitted by cogitoergofay on Fri, 09/28/2007 - 1:10pm.

The primary reason for moral decay in present day America is ignorance of the theorem that along with every right is a concomitant responsibility. The noise ordinance is no more and no less than a public policy compromise. It considers the liberty of the individual balanced against the common good.

In this case, since the young rider is certainly able to take his bike to other areas less densely populated or to communities with no noise ordinances he has choices. For example, Fayette County chooses to have an animal restraint ordinance. Some neighboring counties do not.

I agree with Git Real on the notion of raising your children with strong sense of reality. Not only is he being allowed to indulge himself in this narcissistic view of life, he is being taught to disregard the needs of others, all in the name of “Self”.


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